Steven Wagenheim Banned?

I don't know you well enough to judge. NOPE, I wasn't singling anyone out.

SOME might say that I am an example of the worst, but I am not. I have helped people, etc.... HECK, I would have a LOT more thanks if they had that feature when I first came here. So nope, I wasn't refering to any paarticular person, and certainly not just ONE person.

Steve

IF you feel suspect when you read such statements - you might want to
take a look at that signal - whether or not it was referring to you.

I don't think that Steve will be gone long - but he should pay attention to this one - while he offers some extremely valuable info but he has quite a controlling nature. When political discussions were allowed in the OT, he wasn't even a regular OTer - but didn't like what others wanted to talk about so complained to Allen. I actually have quit reading most of his posts because he complains about the others in here way too often.

We had another warrior in here when I started here that was very prominent - had more posts that almost anyone else - but she decided that she ruled the forum and started railing at admin any time anyone didn't like her position on an issue, etc. People were shocked when Allen booted her, too, but it never hurt the forum any to have her gone.

We aren't here to control each other's views whether we like them or not. We need to leave that to the fascists in Gov who are trying to ban free speech. If we can't be honest - how do we learn? Okay, someone thinks MJ was a pedafile and someone else doesn't -- discussion is the only way to understand each other, and the only way we can learn more about our fellow membership, which is made up of real people behind the usernames, emails, etc.

How do you know how to JV with if they have to keep their true feelings and positions private? My JV partners come from the OT because I know that we have common grounds and will get along and can work together.

What about people who want to sell MJ products -- isn't it good for them to see how people really feel and what percentage feel that way?

I sell a natural beauty product....Isn't it conducive for me to know all points of view on the Issue of CODEX?

If we are going to exist as a community - we can't run and tattle every time someone doesn't agree with us or offends us. The smart people are learning from these posts rather than complaining about how many do not share our views.

I am sure Steve will be back -- but I also think that an attitude agjustment was timely.

Yea, he seems like a really good guy and it will be good to get him back. I read his stuff a lot and he really does try to help. I've seen a few of his jabs here and there, but wth, that makes him interesting!

The guy has almost 13k posts with only 8 infractions. I think if most of us did the math using our post-to-infraction ratio we'd end up with way more infractions at 13k post than 8.

Hi Waggers,

Nice to know we're still thinking and talking about you while you take a vacation, eh?

Keep smiling over there in the sin-bin/on the naughty-step mate

I'm glad Steve's ban is only temporary and it's great to see how he's taking this ban and learning from it vs. getting all bent.

I've seen others banned who go out and setup anti-WF sites/blogs vs. trying to learn from the incident.

I personally don't go into the off-topic forum much. I know I don't have as thick of skin as I should have for some of those posts so I stay out. Life is too short to get all upset over really something pretty silly.

It's also a weird nature of the best in this forum world that a thread about Michael Jackson of all things can lead to arguments, insults, and bans. I didn't read the thread in question but looks like people need to cut to decaff coffee.

I'm sitting in the lobby of the Mayo clinic as my Mother is getting ready for surgery next week (eye cataracts nothing too serious) and seeing all these sick people here really puts things in perspective. So if you think you're having a bad day and you're healthy go sit in the lobby of a hospital for an hour.

Steve W. isn't special to this forum. He's a great source of help for many warriors, but that doesn't give him free reign to call people names.

If he did sit around all day calling people dicks he would of been gone a long time ago and you know it.
Second this forum was around for a long time before Steve showed up and did just fine.
Now I like Steve and yes he has gone out of his way to help people.
On the other hand he has done some things here that flat pissed me off to the point where I was seeing red. Yet I didn't call him names or cop a forum attitude about it. I held my tongue and when he posted something I liked I commented about it.
The guy got a week off for calling people something he had done in the past himself, get over it.