Robin Williams Dead at 63 --> RIP

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Robin Williams was found dead at his home in Marin County today. The early reports say it was suicide.

“Robin Williams passed away this morning. He has been battling severe depression of late. This is a tragic and sudden loss. The family respectfully asks for their privacy as they grieve during this very difficult time.”
Robin Williams dead at 63 | Inside Movies | EW.com

Robin Williams has committed suicide. The comedian killed himself in Tiburon, in Northern California.
Robin Williams Dead -- Commits Suicide | TMZ.com

Rest in peace, Robin.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Here is the Marin County Sheriff's Office Press Release:

    Marin County Sheriff's Office
    Coroner Division
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    August 11, 2014
    Investigation into Death of Robin Williams

    On August 11, 2014, at approximately 11:55 am, Marin County Communications received a 9-1-1 telephone call reporting a male adult had been located unconscious and not breathing inside his residence in unincorporated Tiburon, CA. The Sheriff's Office, as well as the Tiburon Fire Department and Southern Marin Fire Protection District were dispatched to the incident with emergency personnel arriving on scene at 12:00 pm. The male subject, pronounced deceased at 12:02 pm has been identified as Robin McLaurin Williams, a 63 year old resident of unincorporated Tiburon, CA.

    An investigation into the cause, manner, and circumstances of the death is currently underway by the Investigations and Coroner Divisions of the Sheriff's Office. Preliminary information developed during the investigation indicates Mr. Williams was last seen alive at his residence, where he resides with his wife, at approximately 10:00pm on August 10, 2014. Mr. Williams was located this morning shortly before the 9-1-1 call was placed to Marin County Communications. At this time, the Sheriff's Office Coroner Division suspects the death to be a suicide due to asphyxia, but comprehensive investigation must be completed before a final determination is made.

    A forensic examination is currently scheduled for August 12, 2014 with subsequent toxicology testing to be conducted.
    http://www.marinsheriff.org/uploads/855.pdf

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Nice Sabino
    It's now confirmed in wiki. RIP, Mrs. Doubtfire.

    "Robin McLaurin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014) was an American actor, voice actor, and stand-up comedian."
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      Originally Posted by creiben31 View Post

      It's now confirmed in wiki. RIP, Mrs. Doubtfire.

      "Robin McLaurin Williams (July 21, 1951– August 11, 2014) was an American actor, voice actor, and stand-up comedian."
      It's been confirmed by the press release from the Marin County Sheriff's Office! RIP, Robin.

      Cheers

      -don
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Creiben, could you please just lay off and show some respect and let others pay their respects?

        We do post these threads so we can mourn along with our OT friends.

        Thank you!


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        • Profile picture of the author Nice Sabino
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Creiben, could you please just lay off and show some respect and let others pay their respects?

          We do post these threads so we can mourn along with our OT friends.

          Thank you!


          Terra
          I do respect him. That's why I stand corrected and said that this is not a hoax.

          It's just a normal reaction nowadays. You'll think first that it's just a hoax, of course you wouldn't want to think that it actually happened. And It's sad that the news is true.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Wow. That is really shocking.

    I think he would find humor in the fact they are calling it a hoax.

    And it is the hoax that is the hoax.

    Wow. What a waste. He was a really great actor.

    Very sorry 2 C U Go, Robin.
    It's not funny.
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    Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

    Wow. That is really shocking.I think he would find humor in the fact they are calling it a hoax.
    In a sad way I think you might be right. His first appearance on Johnny..."real men can stand up to Herpes".


    Cheers

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    A sad loss. A fine comedian, as well as a fine straight actor.

    Shazbat big fella, we'll miss you.

    R.I.P.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      So very sad. My heart goes out to his family. Robin Williams was truly one of the most talented and brilliant actors and comedians of our time. May he rest in peace.
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      A major talent. I remember him in Good Will Hunting and his "heart to heart" with the Matt Damon character. He was a great actor.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        A major talent. I remember him in Good Will Hunting and his "heart to heart" with the Matt Damon character. He was a great actor.
        Claude,

        Robin had many great performances....

        In my opinion, Good Will Hunting was his very best....

        He will be missed in Hollywood.... and beyond.

        All The Best,

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    Mrs. Doubtfire
    Flubber
    Peter Pan

    Some of his movies that made my childhood awesome. He'll be remembered forever...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    It is just so hard to understand how someone who was so adept at finding humor in the world would be so void of it in their own life. This is just too sad.

    RIP Robin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Terra - same here

      I went immediately to the first episodes of Mork and Mindy and have been watching William's performances for the past 2 hrs.

      Watched some Mork and then this one


      The man was a comic genius.
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Terra - same here

        I went immediately to the first episodes of Mork and Mindy and have been watching William's performances for the past 2 hrs.

        Watched some Mork and then this one

        Robin Williams - Weapons Of Self Destruction - YouTube

        The man was a comic genius.
        Me too! Haha!

        He was awesome in everything he did!


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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      It is just so hard to understand how someone who was so adept at finding humor in the world would be so void of it in their own life. This is just too sad.

      RIP Robin.

      It can be a number of things. If you have ever experienced true Clinical depression or Bi -Polar depression you would understand.

      Not trying to be curt. Just stating reality. Btw, not even sure it was Clinical depression in his case.

      I just have a suspicion it is.

      If your Brain is attacked with a certain type of chemical depression, you cannot just "snap" out of it. Or pick yourself up and just "get it together and be your normal, funny self ".

      And it is not a personality flaw or it is not a case that someone is just a sad person or is not strong willed.

      Many who have Clinical depression have incredible, exciting very positive Lives. But many times a horrible and hopeless 'dark cloud' will appear over them for absolutely NO reason at all. ( and trust me it is as much a physical feeling as a mental feeling)

      Of course this is not true with every case as their can be external factors that exacerbate the depression.

      But people put a stigma on mental illness. The thing is the Brain is a organ of the body just like the Heart and Liver are.

      You do not hear people say 'why can't he just get over his Liver Cancer or Pancreatic disease because he has so much to live for and he is such a happy and humorous guy.'

      A sick brain is a sick brain and the symptoms manifested from a sick brain ( in areas of thinking, emotions, moods) are hard for most people to understand and many are very insensitive because they cannot understand it .
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    Aw damn. He was very talented. Skilled in comedy and a good character actor as well.

    RIP, Robin. Nanu nanu.
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    Always the funniest people are the saddest.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    This is the one where I really realized what a great actor Robin was.


    As a shrink in a mental hospital with DeNiro as seriously ill patient, (who also so shined).

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    Damn. He sure was talented. Sometimes the funniest people go through the worst pain.
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      Very sad. A great talent.
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  • Another great actor lost. Saddens me to know he committed suicide.

    R.I.P. Bicentennial man
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    I watched him on a TV show many years ago, and I've never been able to find it on YT. I was in awe at how quickly his mind worked. He picked 3 subjects from audience suggestions and then improved 8 or 10 minutes from them. I know two were Shakespeare and Three Mile Island, can't remember the other. I couldn't imagine how he could just pull stuff out of his hat like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      this news makes me so very sad. What a talented man. RIP Robin!
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Something seemed wrong a month ago when he checked into a rehab for continued sobriety. Sad. Carlin. Pryor. Now Robin.

        “When I was drinking there was only one time, where even for a moment, I thought: ‘**** life.’ But then even my conscience brain went, did you really just say **** life? You know you have a pretty good life as it is right now. Have you noticed the two houses? Yes. Have you noticed the girlfriend? Yes. Have you noticed that things are pretty good, even though you may not be working right now? Yes. Okay, let’s put the suicide over here on discussable, let’s leave that over here in the discussion area, we’ll talk about that. First of all you don’t have the balls to do it. I’m not going to say it out loud. Have you thought about buying a gun? No. What are you going to do, cut your wrist with a water pick? Maybe, that’s erosion. Why are you thinking about that? Can I put this over there in the what the **** category, yes let’s put that in what the ****. Can I ask you what you’re doing right now? You’re sitting naked in a hotel room with a bottle of Jack Daniels, yes. Is that maybe influencing your decision? Okay, we’re going to put that over here. What is that beside the bed? I don’t know. Don’t discuss that with her, because she might tweet it, okay, this may not be good. Okay, we’re going to put this in the what the **** category, possibly for therapy, or maybe a podcast 2 years from now? Want to talk about it in a podcast? Now you feel safe. You’re talking about it on the podcast, it’s your sub conscience. Okay, have you ever thought about it since then? No.” ~ Robin Williams [WTF With Marc Maron 2010]
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          RIP Robin, that's very sad. Just to show what a sad individual I am I actually remember him best from Jumanji. I don't know why but I loved that film and will be watching it again this weekend.

          Very sad and definitely one of the funniest people out there. What a shock.
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    Everyone in my office was pretty broken up over this. Myself included.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Rodd
    Was this supposed to be his last film?

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    • Profile picture of the author Riptor
      A very sad end to such a talented and charitable man.
      We didn't know what was in your mind but we knew what was in your heart.
      Bless you.

      R.I.P. Robin
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
    You know...a lot of people think it's silly to be affected by the death of a celebrity. And usually, I agree with them. But then today Robin Williams died,one for my favorite actors. And I`m feeling such sadness....now I understand.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
      Originally Posted by Cataleya View Post

      You know...a lot of people think it's silly to be affected by the death of a celebrity. And usually, I agree with them. But then today Robin Williams died,one for my favorite actors. And I`m feeling such sadness....now I understand.
      I completely understand. He was not only my favorite comedian of all time, but I could actually relate to what he was going through.

      Larry King said that severe depression was described to him by a doctor as follows...

      "Someone could walk into the room and tell you that your great uncle died and left you a $100 million dollar windfall...

      or

      Someone could walk in and tell you that you just lost your entire fortune. Both of these scenarios would have the same effect."

      I wish that more famous people would come forward and share their experience with depression. It's a major problem that's only come to light during the last couple decades. A few actors, Richard Dreyfuss and Linda Hamilton come to mind, have shared their story. We need more public awareness, though.

      There are still many people that are very critical of people that say they're depressed. Since they can't see it and don't understand it, it must not exist. That's their viewpoint. This is especially true if a person has trouble holding down a job. Many people have no idea what's even going on with themselves! Their self esteem suffers and that's when many turn to drugs and alcohol.

      It's estimated that up to 20% of the people that actually suffer from severe depression don't want to talk about it or don't understand what's going on. Most isolate themselves from others because they feel weak or because of fear of persecution.

      Anyway, it's not my intent in any way to make this post about me. I just know that there are millions of other people right here in the U.S. (and around the world) that suffer, too.

      It's time that we educate our society about the different types of depression, the signs of a depressed person, how to help or deal with someone that suffers from this horrible condition and where they can get help. It's long overdue.

      You never know. The next person to take their life could be someone you know, someone you love or both, and it may have been avoided if they only knew that it was okay to talk to you about it.

      Please spread the word.

      You'll be dearly missed, Robin. :-(
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    RIP Robin.

    I too think his role in Good Will Hunting was his best dramatic acting

    Here is where his career started:
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    This reminds me of a story I heard once about a passerby finding a man
    sad and crying on a park bench. The friendly passerby suggested that
    if he wanted to be cheered up there was a very talented clown in
    the visiting circus in town. His reply? "I'm that clown".

    It's really sad to die from what you give.

    He'll be terribly missed.

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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Winkler's words:
    Interesting what he says about the differences in scripts because of Williams adlibbing.

    Robin Williams Dead: 'Happy Days' Henry Winkler Recalls Late Actor - Hollywood Reporter
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Winkler's words:
      Interesting what he says about the differences in scripts because of Williams adlibbing.

      Robin Williams Dead: 'Happy Days' Henry Winkler Recalls Late Actor - Hollywood Reporter
      I read it.

      I was trying to think of someone who had the amount of sheer talent that Williams had. A few names came to mind. Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin, Billy Chrystal. Not just great comedians, but great talents.

      Then I read the name Jonathan Winters, Yup. I don't know exactly what comic genius is, but I think I'm safe in saying that Winters and Williams were both comic geniuses.

      Can you imagine an hour, just watching them exchange bits?
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      • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
        The guy was one of just a few that could ever make me laugh out loud. He and the Frazier series.

        I think one of his biggest contributions was reminding us all that it's ok to be a little off.

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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I read it.

        I was trying to think of someone who had the amount of sheer talent that Williams had. A few names came to mind. Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin, Billy Chrystal. Not just great comedians, but great talents.

        Then I read the name Jonathan Winters, Yup. I don't know exactly what comic genius is, but I think I'm safe in saying that Winters and Williams were both comic geniuses.

        Can you imagine an hour, just watching them exchange bits?
        Tim Conway and Harvey Korman were also greats. I watched some clips of Mork and Raquel Welch
        as Captain Nirvana - even that was campy and fun.

        Winters and Williams would be great- even the "fails".
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        • Profile picture of the author francisdza179
          Robin Williams was probably the first Hollywood actor who made men crying on screen look dignified. Rest in peace, Robin
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    really sad..
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Comedy is mostly about recognizing connections and patterns and turning them upside down. The way Robin Williams did so always amazed me. I would watch him do stand up with the remote in my hand. I would rewind bits repeatedly to try to follow his thought pattern. He was truly brilliant.

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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Hey!!!

      Did any of you see this!!

      This forum had a post about Robin Williams is going to die 3 days before his death!

      Are people bracing themselves for the fact that Robin Williams will die soon? | IGN Boards

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        Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

        Did any of you see this!!This forum had a post about Robin Williams is going to die 3 days before his death!
        That's nuts. I don't know how often he makes these sorts of predictions but I hope it's not too frequently.

        Cheers

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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          I would say, most problems come in two categories:

          The DENIAL of truth or the unwillingness to pursue the truth.

          The truth of personal weaknesses , finances, how you are truly perceived by people, the truth of what and who people truly ARE, truth about diet, mental capacity, human limitations, personal limitations, limits or non-limits of technology, politics, spiritual matters, the definition of what is science vs what is accepted as science, relatives, history, etc,.

          People/ Doctors "talk" about depression, but really, like other disciplines, have a boat load of "theories" and medically "approved" treatment and psyche therapy techniques, BUT no cure, again, "practicing" medicine.

          For one, paying alimony for life and dividing most of what took you a lifetime to earn between 3 females, some you may have known briefly, can cause anyone depression, especially if on paper you are rich but are really close to bankruptcy.

          Why do rich and or famous people , mostly men, insist on risking lifetime financial achievement on an institution called marriage, is beyond me....., whatever one assumes or ideally thinks it is supposed to represent, marriage, at least in this country, is entering into a corporate contract of financial liability no matter who is at fault at the time of dissolution of said partnership.

          Show me in the LAW, where the idea of love and other stuff is in direct relationship to financial protection and or less of loss or damage...., umm, you won't find it.

          Secondly, the perception of celebrity is just that, a perception. The reality of it, when one pursues it or gains it, it is NOT what one imagined it would be or entail.

          As a famous person, you enter into a false world, because everyone kisses your ass and somehow or another, wants something from you, for selfish reasons or want to live thru you or have a piece of you, like an autograph or something, to justify that by being near someone successful gives them justification of their existence because subconsciously, most people see less and less of such justification of their lives in the mark they leave on life.

          They also simultaneously secretly hate you, and when you fail, subconsciously justify that they are better than you which makes that an accomplishment because they did not fall victim to what said celebrity fell to.

          So people live thru sports stars and celebrities and trivia to give them purpose, to show they have worth and/or to prove they have a spark of greatness like the celebrity they worship, and some celebrities perceive this PRESSURE subconsciously, but cannot verbally quantify it or understand it. They are always on pressure to perform, even if they are off duty and going to the toilet to take a leak.

          We also make them responsible to make us feel better or be an escape from our lives at a moments call.

          Imagine that...., one needs something to escape life, in the 21st century..., ALL this technology, and we cannot or unwilling to make life chores and day-to-day life enjoyable and heavenly...., incredible.

          You have to be completely NUTS to want to be famous in this way or show off to the public that you are rich, ESPECIALLY in this media world we live in, to find genuine souls who ONLY want whats best for you, to assist you in freedom from everything, even THEM, well, good luck with that.

          All you get from people, is to invoke in them jealousy, envy, wanting a piece of you , like you are some trinket they can pull out of their pocket to show off to others that they have worth, which in turn, they usually invoke the same thing in others, false friends, friendships and relationships.

          The "truth" of self, is one of the greatest top two truths one could ever pursue, but most do not deem this a priority, materialism in some form or another or false " ad a boy" pat on the back is what some pursue, not being true to one self and have the courage to go forward to discovering the truth of whatever, despite its popularity or how one would be perceived unfavorably.

          A teacher who truly changes the lives of others and truly makes other masters, beyond the skills of the teacher is a worthy fame, it has tangibility beyond "plastic" fame and other illusions of reality that are of media/corporate creation.

          Vince Lombardi had the best definition of love that gets to the heart of what it truly means, it is a very small portion of emotion, but your average person, no matter how many degrees they have, get some of their definitions and believe it as a reality from movies, tv , novels and the like.

          If one has a false sense of what is real and what is truth and what is reality, then millions and billions of dollars will only enhance that by a factor of millions and billions.

          The vast majority will STILL not get "it".


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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

            For one, paying alimony for life and dividing most of what took you a lifetime to earn between 3 females, some you may have known briefly, can cause anyone depression, especially if on paper you are rich but are really close to bankruptcy.
            We likely won't ever know for sure, but his finances may have been a big part of this. From what I understand he had a prenuptial with his 1st wife but still gave her a very good settlement and it is estimated his first two wives got between $20 and $30 million. Plus, he set up a trust fund for his kids which was already mostly paid out. He had to sell his Napa ranch last year and said something about bankruptcy. From what I understand also, he was very generous in giving to charities. Seems like he had no problem getting work though so it may just be speculation and had nothing at all to do with money.
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              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              We likely won't ever know for sure, but his finances may have been a big part of this. From what I understand he had a prenuptial with his 1st wife but still gave her a very good settlement and it is estimated his first two wives got between $20 and $30 million. Plus, he set up a trust fund for his kids which was already mostly paid out. He had to sell his Napa ranch last year and said something about bankruptcy. From what I understand also, he was very generous in giving to charities. Seems like he had no problem getting work though so it may just be speculation and had nothing at all to do with money.
              Getting work is VERY subjective. People have to practically auction the actors. A price that is too low can be very low, etc.... and hurt future work. A price that is too high can cause a missed opportunity.

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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                Tim -

                I saw that and looked further and it is being debunked by people who knew Williams well. He spent a lot - settled a lot in divorces but he had huge earning power, too.

                Seems to be one person who knew him conjectured and Radar Online published and others are copying. I wouldn't put too much faith into the "broke" theory.
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        Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

        Hey!!!

        Did any of you see this!!

        This forum had a post about Robin Williams is going to die 3 days before his death!

        Are people bracing themselves for the fact that Robin Williams will die soon? | IGN Boards

        Whoa!
        The board was updated yesterday. I'm assuming to make it seem more like this was foretold.

        But it's in very bad taste. Some things should never be posted.

        I'm genuinely surprised that nobody here has yet claimed to have predicted this. Maybe there is hope for us yet.
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          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          The board was updated yesterday. I'm assuming to make it seem more like this was foretold.

          But it's in very bad taste. Some things should never be posted.

          I'm genuinely surprised that nobody here has yet claimed to have predicted this. Maybe there is hope for us yet.

          Well, I don't know if it was or not. BUT, a friend sent it too me and said that he had to go back in his browser history to find it for me because he saw it on Sunday.

          So, I can't say, I didn't see it and my friend is just an internet acquaintance, so you never know. But the forum it was on was updated on Friday it looks like.

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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            It can be a number of things. If you have ever experienced true Clinical depression...you would understand.
            So true.

            If you suffer from bouts of depression the hardest part is that people view you as "depressed" and try to make you "feel better". They say things like "don't let it get you down" or "get over it"...so you learn not to tell people when you are in a depressive episode.

            I was diagnosed with clinical depression many years ago - before it was popular...before it was stylish...and before it was easily treatable. I was rather deeply drugged with sedatives to take the edge off and when the depression was such that I lost all energy I was treated with amphetamines.
            We've come a long way.

            15 years ago I decided I was not going to live with drug-created-moods. I've mostly learned to control the occasional bouts of depression. Most of the time people around me don't know there's a problem - and when it's bad I know to veg out for a few days till it passes.

            If you don't suffer from it - it is so hard to understand it. Your life can be blessed and full of everything good - and depression can bring you to your knees. It's sneaky, too, because you can be fine and happy and having fun and it will creep up and slap you down when you least expect it.

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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

            Well, I don't know if it was or not. BUT, a friend sent it too me and said that he had to go back in his browser history to find it for me because he saw it on Sunday.

            So, I can't say, I didn't see it and my friend is just an internet acquaintance, so you never know. But the forum it was on was updated on Friday it looks like.

            Patrick
            I was wrong. The site said "Last updated on 8/11/2014", but that may just mean, that's when the last post was made. I read a few pages of posts, and all I saw were fans talking about Williams. Some liked him, some didn't...and a few were concerned because of his health. Just like a board talking about any talented celebrity with health issues.

            Strange. I wonder what we all would have said, if someone asked us what we thought of Robin Williams a week ago. For example, I'm a big fan of several of his movies...but he was on a comedy TV show...currently showing....that I've never watched.

            I wonder why we are really affected so much more when beloved celebrities die? Maybe because Williams was such a part of the fabric of our lives. His movies were moving, even the few bad ones. And at times, on the screen...it was like he was talking to us personally. And now that he's gone, a part of our reality is missing.

            I felt the same way about James Garner. A part of my childhood, watching Maverick.....and in every role, I always thought he was a nice guy, having fun. Every role.

            And in nearly every role Williams played. He radiated caring. How could you not love him?
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I didn't care much for his current show - to me his talent was too much for the plot and it seemed overly scripted.

              I loved him from the time I first saw Mork and Mindy. I don't have highly discerning TV taste at all times. I can only think of four TV shows that repeatedly could make me laugh out loud -

              Mork and Mindy
              Alf
              Dharma and Greg
              Big Bang Theory

              What they have in common, now that I think about it, is a strange/odd/different view of the world.
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                I didn't care much for his current show - to me his talent was too much for the plot and it seemed overly scripted.

                I loved him from the time I first saw Mork and Mindy. I don't have highly discerning TV taste at all times. I can only think of four TV shows that repeatedly could make me laugh out loud -

                Mork and Mindy
                Alf
                Dharma and Greg
                Big Bang Theory

                What they have in common, now that I think about it, is a strange/odd/different view of the world.
                AW for the simpler times! M&M a movie about a woman with some crazy relatives that meets an alien with some crazy friends, etc.... The alien ages backwards! The adults are treated like babies, and the kids are revered elders!

                Alf, a story about a family adopting an alien, played by a muppet, that LOVES the idea of eating cats, but never seems to catch the family cat.


                Dharma and greg, about a woman that has a family stuck in the 1960s that brought their daughter up the same way and a guy that thinks it is all nuts but loves her.


                Big bang theory about several guys that think they are gods gift to mankind(one LITERALLY thinks EXACTLY that), and a woman trying to live in weird stereotypical fashion.

                OK, BBT is relatively newI think, but still parts look 1970 at the latest. INTERESTING that the elevator NEVER gets fixed!

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  • Profile picture of the author AnnaMolly
    That IGN thread was weird because I still think it was there before it was edited. I really hope it was edited, that would be so bizarre.
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      Originally Posted by AnnaMolly View Post

      That IGN thread was weird because I still think it was there before it was edited. I really hope it was edited, that would be so bizarre.
      I believe it was there before as well. The subsequent replies reflect that, as does the OP's last edit time.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I was just watching a bunch of stars laud him, and talk about past meetings with robin williams. It reminded me of the time I thought I was going to maybe meet him. My dad and I sometimes went to this very popular stand up comedian place. It was one of the biggest, if not the biggest in all of hollywood.

    A rumor started to fly around that a famous comedian was going to be there. Every now and then, such an event would happen, so it was certainly LIKELY. THEN, it morphed into it was robin williams! People got excited! And who do YOU think showed up? Who do you think could work this into his act? I don't think he did, but he COULD have!

    YEP! It was rodney dangerfield! NOPE, I never went to say hi or anything, but people would certainly have been happier to see robin williams.

    I heard on one program that there is a claim that robin williams may have been depressed because he had to be on TV more, and take sequel roles. If so, that would have been DUMB! He apparently started, as many have, doing stand up. And MANY go to TV first. They often go back to TV. HECK, look at RObin Williams! As MORK, in a series FEW comedians ever get, he gives birth to his child! His child is played by one of HIS favorite comedians, that has a similar past, Jonathan Winters!

    Orkans, which is what MORK is, lay eggs that become ADULTS that get younger as time passes.



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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    I was diagnosed with clinical depression many years ago - before it was popular...before it was stylish...and before it was easily treatable. I was rather deeply drugged with sedatives to take the edge off and when the depression was such that I lost all energy I was treated with amphetamines.
    We've come a long way.
    NOT REALLY! It STILL isn't "easily treatable". Many treatments apparently STILL can be sedating. One doctor gave me a quiz, based on an UNRELATED request, and determined I had clinical depression. I diagnosed MYSELF LONG AGO, and determined I had clinical depression, but found his quiz to be rather STUPID, capricious, and worthless.

    IMAGINE, you go in DEPRESSED, both chemically AND because of real problems, and with a REAL problem and the doctor IGNORES the problem and sends you out with samples to try to take care of the chemical depression. OH, I took them for a while. I researched them and found out that they were HORRIBLE drugs that people had to struggle to get off of. I ended up going off of them cold turkey, at night.

    And you know what the most popular side effect of antidepression drugs is? SERIOUSLY, I don't think you could name ONE antidepression drug that doesn't have this side effect! The most popular is, often together, SEVERE DEPRESSION and THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE!

    For those that don't know, REAL depression can occur due to stress of varying kinds. Although not necessarily easily fixed, it can be ameliorated, etc... It has a direct KNOWN cause. CHEMICAL(sometimes called CLINICAL) depression is often thought to be due to an imbalance of various chemicals in the brain and can cause even seemingly happy and joyful times that have NO reasonable stress to be very depressing. That, of course, can build on itself because what can be worse than a horrible depression that may occur at such a point. MOST of the antidepression drugs(Called SSRI drugs, or MAOI) hinder the action of an enzyme that gets rid of serotonin in an attempt to cause it to build to a point where it hopefully relieves the depression. It is like a child playing with a computer hoping it will make him a trillionare. The people really don't know what they are doing.

    And yeah, I almost wish sometimes I would be manic. Depression may cause me to put some things off, work at different times, be a bit more upset at some desires some have, but it doesn't mean that people have to know, worry, or care.

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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Clinical depression is something I am very thankful I don't have and it IS hard to imagine. In the early 70's or late 60's my Mom's sister killed herself in her garage by running her car until the CO and lack of oxygen got her. Mid 70's, my Mom was diagnosed with clinical depression and went into a treatment center for about a week - I guess (I was 13) very heavy doses of medicine so she needed to be supervised.

    Afterwards, Mom continued therapy and was prescribed anti-depressants, one I know was lithium.
    I think they generally prescribe other meds now. Thankfully it got to the point where Mom would only use whatever med when she felt the "blackness" coming on, and we did not have to do any suicide watches. She always functioned well.

    I've known other people diagnosed with chemical imbalances or clinical depression who are prescribed medicines. Again, I am very thankful I gained the empathy, but very glad I do not have such problems.
    I do not like to imagine the long term effects of the medicines. Also, the people I know who are on such prescriptions seem to be walking around with senses dulled, that awful feeling of being medicated, and lots of trips to the docs to adjust the dosing...
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    RIP Robin nanoo nanoo
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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyIMer
    He will be missed, I watched many of his movies and I like this actor, it is sad news.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, Parkinson's can be VERY bad, no matter what. I could NEVER imagine living through the extremes of that illness. I hate to say it but Michael J Fox is dreaming if he thinks he will see a cure. He seems like a nice guy, and I don't wish him ill, but stem cells and money won't do it. But that dream may be all that keeps him going.


    Parkinsons apparently starts out as a simple twitch, that is probably VERY annoying in itself, and can progress into basically destroying your whole life. It even hampered, and likely killed Fox's acting career.

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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Yeah, Parkinson's can be VERY bad, no matter what. I could NEVER imagine living through the extremes of that illness. I hate to say it but Michael J Fox is dreaming if he thinks he will see a cure. He seems like a nice guy, and I don't wish him ill, but stem cells and money won't do it. But that dream may be all that keeps him going.

      Parkinsons apparently starts out as a simple twitch, that is probably VERY annoying in itself, and can progress into basically destroying your whole life. It even hampered, and likely killed Fox's acting career.

      Steve
      While the disease obviously has hindered him, Michael J. Fox has accomplished a lot since he was diagnosed with Parkinson's in 1992. He is the definition of never give up...

      Golden Globe Awards

      1997: Nominated, Best Actor in a TV-Series — Comedy/Musical – Spin City
      1998: Won, Best Actor in a TV-Series — Comedy/Musical – Spin City
      1999: Won, Best Actor in a TV-Series — Comedy/Musical – Spin City
      2000: Won, Best Actor in a TV-Series — Comedy/Musical – Spin City
      2014: Nominated, Best Actor in a TV-Series — Comedy/Musical – The Michael J. Fox Show

      Primetime Emmy Awards

      1997: Nominated, Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series – Spin City
      1998: Nominated, Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series – Spin City
      1999: Nominated, Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series – Spin City
      2000: Won, Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series – Spin City
      2006: Nominated, Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series – Boston Legal
      2009: Won, Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series – Rescue Me: Sheila
      2011: Nominated, Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series – The Good Wife
      2012: Nominated, Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series – Curb Your Enthusiasm: Larry vs. Michael J. Fox
      2012: Nominated, Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series – The Good Wife
      2013: Nominated, Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series – The Good Wife

      People's Choice Awards

      2012: Nominated, Favorite TV Guest Star – The Good Wife

      Satellite Awards

      1997: Nominated, Best Actor in a Television Series — Comedy or Musical – Spin City[70]
      1998: Nominated, Best Actor in a Television Series — Comedy or Musical – Spin City[71]
      1999: Nominated, Best Actor in a Television Series — Comedy or Musical – Spin City[72]

      Screen Actors Guild Awards

      1999: Won, Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Comedy Series – Spin City
      2000: Won, Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Comedy Series – Spin City

      Grammy Awards

      2010: Won, Best Spoken Word Album – Always Looking Up: Adventures of An Incurable Optimist

      Books

      Fox, Michael J. (2002). Lucky Man: A Memoir.
      Fox, Michael J. (2009). Always Looking Up: The adventures of an Incurable Optimist. .
      Fox, Michael J. (2010). A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Future: Twists and Turns and Lessons Learned.

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      1999 Anna Says Executive producer
      2002 Otherwise Engaged Executive producer
      2003 Hench at Home Executive producer
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      1994 Don't Drink the Water Axel Magee
      1996–2001 Spin City Mike Flaherty Lead Role (103 episodes)
      1997 The Chris Rock Show
      2002 Clone High
      2004 Scrubs
      2006 Boston Legal
      2009 Rescue Me
      2010–Present The Good Wife
      2011 Ace of Cakes, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Phineas and Ferb
      2013–2014 The Michael J. Fox Show

      Movies

      1993 Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey, Life with Mikey, For Love or Money
      1994 Where the Rivers Flow North, Greedy
      1995 Blue in the Face, Coldblooded, The American President
      1996 Homeward Bound II: Lost in San Francisco, Chance, The Frighteners, Mars Attacks!
      1999 Stuart Little
      2001 Atlantis: The Lost Empire
      2002 Interstate 60, Stuart Little 2
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

        While the disease obviously has hindered him, Michael J. Fox has accomplished a lot since he was diagnosed with Parkinson's in 1992. He is the definition of never give up...



        Cheers

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        A lot of that happened BEFORE he was really hit hard. Today, I watched his show(The Michael J Fox show, which is at least previewed on youtube), that is still running. He looked *****OLD***** He moved oddly, and was ALWAYS moving. He acted like those actors act on movies where they are only partially in control. It is like the parkinsons wanted him to move one way, and he moved the other. Last I heard, he HAS to be on drugs, and they were not working nearly as well as they did. By moving constantly, as he did, he relieved the tremors somewhat, and kind of hid the parkinsons, but it was clear it affected him heavily.

        SO, while you are right that he is pushing it all the way, and still getting work, it is clearly taking its toll.

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        Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

        While the disease obviously has hindered him, Michael J. Fox has accomplished a lot since he was diagnosed with Parkinson's in 1992. He is the definition of never give up...



        Cheers

        -don

        The Larry David show had an episode named "Larry David Vs. Michael J. Fox" with guest starring Fox and it was a hoot.

        Here's a clip of one of their interactions...

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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
    I've lived with severe depression most of my life and endured a major battle with substance abuse for years. I can't imagine how it would affect me emotionally if I were to relapse after all this time. My self worth would be toast. I'd feel so vulnerable it would take me a long time to return to a "normal" routine, if ever.

    Alcohol itself is a depressant, so when someone like Robin or someone like me is really down the worst thing you can do is go on a binge. It may actually make me feel better for a short time, but the following day would be brutal.

    From what I understand, Robin had been clean and sober for around 20 years and recently relapsed. That could have been enough to put him over the top. He lost his edge and was probably very hard on himself, probably too hard, but in his mind it was a tragedy of huge proportions.

    People who suffer from addiction do so for life. I've heard many stories of men and women who thought they'd conquered their problems after 10, 20, 30 years and succumb to the temptation only to find themselves back at square one in a short time. Some never make it back.

    No one will ever know exactly why Robin Williams committed suicide. It could have been something so insignificant that 99% of the public would think that there must be some mistake, but in his mind it was a mountain that he couldn't climb, at least not that day.

    If there's any good that can come from this it's the fact that many of us that suffer from this horrible condition have begun to come out and speak openly about it. I watched a video yesterday where a popular Vlogger made a video about this subject and told 90% of my story by simply sharing his own. I nearly cried after hearing that, because for the first time in years I don't feel so alone. Someone else really does understand. I'm really not the weak piece of crap I thought I was sometimes. It's not a "Joe" thing. More than 16 million Americans suffer from it.

    Once again, I hate that Robin Williams took his life. That's going to be with many of us for a long time. I don't even think I could watch one of his movies anytime soon. But if his death can bring awareness to this brutal condition and let others know that they're not alone, and that there is help and hope for them, it may yet serve a purpose.

    Maybe he can bring some smiles back to faces that thought they could never really smile again from the heart before this? I sincerely hope so.

    For anyone else that suffers from depression, PTSD, anxiety, OCD, etc, please feel free to PM me anytime. I "get it" and I'm always here to lend an ear.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

      depression, PTSD, anxiety, OCD, etc,
      Have never been kept secret. Even their PARENTS will often not believe! There are a lot of people that can't understand that some may perceive things differently, etc... Misdiagnosing things doesn't help either.

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        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        Have never been kept secret. Even their PARENTS will often not believe! There are a lot of people that can't understand that some may perceive things differently, etc... Misdiagnosing things doesn't help either.

        Steve

        There are also certain types of depression that have similar symptoms as bipolar disorder and must be treated differently. However, depending on the individual, it may take up to 5 years to make a clear diagnosis!

        The last time I disussed going back on antidepressants I was told that there are 10 different classifications of medication for depression.

        TEN!

        There is no "one size fits all" either, so everyone has to try something based on what they tell the doctor and wait a few weeks to see if it helps. If not, it's back to the drawing board and try something else.

        One thing that does help some is regular exercise. I've got some physical issues that have made it slow going and have already injured myself once by trying to do too much to start out, but it's definitely had a positive affect in the past, so I'm getting back on track slowly but surely.

        Actually, I've noticed that Robin's death has had a really somber affect on people everywhere. A lot of people are in disbelief. It's almost like when John Lennon or Michael Jackson passed away. Of course, the circumstances were very different for all three individuals.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          There are also certain types of depression that have similar symptoms as bipolar disorder and must be treated differently. However, depending on the individual, it may take up to 5 years to make a clear diagnosis!

          The last time I disussed going back on antidepressants I was told that there are 10 different classifications of medication for depression.

          TEN!

          There is no "one size fits all" either, so everyone has to try something based on what they tell the doctor and wait a few weeks to see if it helps. If not, it's back to the drawing board and try something else.

          One thing that does help some is regular exercise. I've got some physical issues that have made it slow going and have already injured myself once by trying to do too much to start out, but it's definitely had a positive affect in the past, so I'm getting back on track slowly but surely.

          Actually, I've noticed that Robin's death has had a really somber affect on people everywhere. A lot of people are in disbelief. It's almost like when John Lennon or Michael Jackson passed away. Of course, the circumstances were very different for all three individuals.
          Yeah, I think there are only TWO types of depression. REAL, and chemical. As for there being 10 types of medication, that is a GOOD thing. They used to basically have perhaps 2. One to simply get you through it, and the other for HOPEFULLY eventually getting seratonin in range. That is one of I believe FOUR chemicals they feel may be involved. If you listen/read carefully, you notice they really don't know HOW this stuff works, but have theories. SOMETIMES, like with serotonin, they have to go through a back door because of things like "The blood/brain barrier" Blood

          Yeah, John Lennon was shot, and we may never know truly why. Michael Jackson supposedly succumbed to an overdose of profofol so he could sleep soundly. We may never know why MJ changed so much. Seriously, he always seemed to be the star there(It started out as the jackson 5, and he was then the "baby" of the group. Eventually, it was almost like the world forgot about everyone else.), and he could have been just as successful if he looked the same.

          But robin williams was the only one that supposedly committed suicide. Maybe his secret was about to get out, and he feared the worst. Maybe it was just chemical depression. It doesn't need any logical trigger. Maybe it was the depression coupled with parkinsons. Maybe he got another symptom of parkinsons and feared the worst. ANY of that could have led him to suicide. With ME, I have the presence of mind to think things like "People are taking Michael J foxes news OK, and he had a nice run, even AFTER things started getting bad." and things like "If I partially failed I could end up in far worse shape". And he has his FAMILY to worry about as well. But you have to be aware of such things, and ride out the depression. If you can get caught up in something you like, it can also help. I don't have parkinsons, to the best of my knowledge, but I have been where he supposedly was.

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    rip robin williams. you were great in mrs doubtfire
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    I don't know why, but I was most moved by Koko's sad reaction to the news.
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  • Profile picture of the author nattyd51
    I met him once. He was sweet, and just as kind as anyone says. I was recording at a studio where he was looping some ADR. I've been watching his Carson appearances all day: Pluto.TV: Robin WIlliams I'll miss you so much.
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    I was looking forward to seeing him on television and in the movies for another twenty years. I'll miss him.

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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Robin was often accused of stealing other comics stuff.
    There was "Tootsie". Then Robin did "Mrs. Doubtfire".
    There was "Big". then Robin did "Jack".

    However: there is no doubt that he was, perhaps the best, or at least, the 2nd best,
    improvisational comedians ever.
    It's said that it was almost impossible to complete an episode of Mork and Mindy
    because he would get on a rant and have the crew laughing so hard they couldn't continue.
    And, when Johnathan Winters joined the cast, it was even worse.

    Whatever the truth may be, he was one of the greatest talents ever.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Robin was often accused of stealing other comics stuff.
      There was "Tootsie". Then Robin did "Mrs. Doubtfire".
      There was "Big". then Robin did "Jack".

      However: there is no doubt that he was, perhaps the best, or at least, the 2nd best,
      improvisational comedians ever.
      It's said that it was almost impossible to complete an episode of Mork and Mindy
      because he would get on a rant and have the crew laughing so hard they couldn't continue.
      And, when Johnathan Winters joined the cast, it was even worse.

      Whatever the truth may be, he was one of the greatest talents ever.

      Hmmm, now that you mention it, I had completely forgotten about Tootsie and Big, until your post, but had never forgotten about Mrs. Doubtfire or Jack.

      What does that say?


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