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    There are lots of solutions our leaders are ignoring...

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    • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      There are lots of solutions our leaders are ignoring...


      I'm not sure "ignoring" is the right word...
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by Cam Connor View Post

        I'm not sure "ignoring" is the right word...
        What would be the right word?
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        • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          What would be the right word?
          What's the word for intentionally shutting down?
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      There are lots of solutions our leaders are ignoring...

      I agree, but sadly, it's not just our leaders who ignore or don't want to be bothered with even simple solutions. For example, if everyone would use their own bags (often made from recycled materials) for groceries, rather than plastic or paper, it would have a tremendous impact. The ones we use cost about $1 each and last for a couple years, at least. I cringe every time I see someone leave the grocery store with a cart full of groceries in a dozen plastic or paper bags. Plastic is terrible for the environment and paper requires cutting down trees.

      It's such a simple thing - although it requires just a little planning ahead - yet I'd wager less than 5% (if that) of the U.S. population uses their own bags. Small things like this can have a big impact, but most people don't want to be bothered with even the slightest inconvenience...
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

        I agree, but sadly, it's not just our leaders who ignore or don't want to be bothered with even simple solutions. For example, if everyone would use their own bags (often made from recycled materials) for groceries, rather than plastic or paper, it would have a tremendous impact. The ones we use cost about $1 each and last for a couple years, at least. I cringe every time I see someone leave the grocery store with a cart full of groceries in a dozen plastic or paper bags. Plastic is terrible for the environment and paper requires cutting down trees.

        It's such a simple thing - although it requires just a little planning ahead - yet I'd wager less than 5% (if that) of the U.S. population uses their own bags. Small things like this can have a big impact, but most people don't want to be bothered with even the slightest inconvenience...
        If congress passed the bill that's been sitting in front of them for nearly eight years authorizing the legalization of industrial hemp we could almost completely eliminate the need for plastic bags and replace them with inexpensive hemp fiber paper, cartons, clothes and lots of other stuff, not to mention the jobs we'd create in the process.

        Whew, a 57 word sentence.

        Right now we're sitting with millions of uncultivated acres of excellent ground here in the US while we import hemp from China. Using hemp for fiber rather than trees would allow trees to grow longer and they'd exchange more O2 for CO2. We'd use natural fiber for clothes, paper and lots of other things which would eliminate the need for plastic and synthetic fiber products, which would, in turn, reduce billions of tons of inorganic crap going into landfills.

        The blue team and the red team are well aware of this so why don't they do it?
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          If congress passed the bill that's been sitting in front of them for nearly eight years authorizing the legalization of industrial hemp we could almost completely eliminate the need for plastic bags and replace them with inexpensive hemp fiber paper, cartons, clothes and lots of other stuff, not to mention the jobs we'd create in the process.

          Whew, a 57 word sentence.

          Right now we're sitting with millions of uncultivated acres of excellent ground here in the US while we import hemp from China. Using hemp for fiber rather than trees would allow trees to grow longer and they'd exchange more O2 for CO2. We'd use natural fiber for clothes, paper and lots of other things which would eliminate the need for plastic and synthetic fiber products, which would, in turn, reduce billions of tons of inorganic crap going into landfills.

          The blue team and the red team are well aware of this this so why don't they do it?
          Well that's obvious...not enough money from the hemp lobby
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          If congress passed the bill that's been sitting in front of them for nearly eight years authorizing the legalization of industrial hemp we could almost completely eliminate the need for plastic bags and replace them with inexpensive hemp fiber paper, cartons, clothes and lots of other stuff, not to mention the jobs we'd create in the process.

          Whew, a 57 word sentence.

          Right now we're sitting with millions of uncultivated acres of excellent ground here in the US while we import hemp from China. Using hemp for fiber rather than trees would allow trees to grow longer and they'd exchange more O2 for CO2. We'd use natural fiber for clothes, paper and lots of other things which would eliminate the need for plastic and synthetic fiber products, which would, in turn, reduce billions of tons of inorganic crap going into landfills.

          The blue team and the red team are well aware of this this so why don't they do it?
          Kentucky just had their first Hemp harvest. (not so)Funny story, they DEA confiscated their hemp seeds so the state had to sue the feds. to get them back.
          Environmentally speaking hemp is a fantastic crop to grow. It has a long tap root that breaks up compacted soils and brings nutrients up from the subsoil. It doesn't require chemical fertilizers and because it is fast growing doesn't need herbicides to combat the weeds. Also because of the speed in which it grows, you can harvest two crops a year in many places.
          Then you have that whole carbon sequestration thing that hemp and many hemp products are so good at. People go on about solar power and wind power which only produce power.Using hemp and hemp bio fuel would produce power, improve the soil, air, and water, plus it's byproducts like seeds are high in nutrition.
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          • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            Kentucky just had their first Hemp harvest. (not so)Funny story, they DEA confiscated their hemp seeds so the state had to sue the feds. to get them back.
            Environmentally speaking hemp is a fantastic crop to grow. It has a long tap root that breaks up compacted soils and brings nutrients up from the subsoil. It doesn't require chemical fertilizers and because it is fast growing doesn't need herbicides to combat the weeds. Also because of the speed in which it grows, you can harvest two crops a year in many places.
            Then you have that whole carbon sequestration thing that hemp and many hemp products are so good at. People go on about solar power and wind power which only produce power.Using hemp and hemp bio fuel would produce power, improve the soil, air, and water, plus it's byproducts like seeds are high in nutrition.
            Also, apparently drying and smoking the leaves of the plant can have an effect that some people enjoy.
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

              Also, apparently drying and smoking the leaves of the plant can have an effect that some people enjoy.
              Not really, unless you enjoy a headache.
              Industrial Hemp has such a low THC level that you would literally have to smoke a ton of it to MAYBE catch a buzz.
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              • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

                Not really, unless you enjoy a headache.
                Industrial Hemp has such a low THC level that you would literally have to smoke a ton of it to MAYBE catch a buzz.
                I knew that, LOL. I was being facetious. Hey, I made myself laugh so that's something. But, I'd love to see those violent Mexican gangs lose their main form of funding simply if the stuff was legalized and sold from licensed coffee-shops or whatever. Hemp is an amazing plant for many industrial purposes and it is absurd not to be using it on a much wider scale.
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                • Profile picture of the author ThomM
                  Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

                  I knew that, LOL. I was being facetious. Hey, I made myself laugh so that's something. But, I'd love to see those violent Mexican gangs lose their main form of funding simply if the stuff was legalized and sold from licensed coffee-shops or whatever. Hemp is an amazing plant for many industrial purposes and it is absurd not to be using it on a much wider scale.
                  I should of known that. I got a laugh out of it also when I realized you fooled me
                  That is one of the arguments used against growing hemp though, so it was pretty easy to fool me
                  The other two arguments are it's hard to tell the difference between industrial hemp and cannabis when it's growing (like it's also hard to tell the difference between a Christmas tree and an Oak tree).
                  The other is people will grow regular cannabis with the hemp to disguise it. That's wrong on so many levels that it's just ridiculous. For one if you are trying to grow quality cannabis, hemp is the last thing you want near it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                    Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

                    I should of known that. I got a laugh out of it also when I realized you fooled me
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                    My pompous doofus act throws people off sometimes, LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author msdobe
        Amazing video. What will they think of next? What a great solution!

        Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

        I agree, but sadly, it's not just our leaders who ignore or don't want to be bothered with even simple solutions. For example, if everyone would use their own bags (often made from recycled materials) for groceries, rather than plastic or paper, it would have a tremendous impact. The ones we use cost about $1 each and last for a couple years, at least. I cringe every time I see someone leave the grocery store with a cart full of groceries in a dozen plastic or paper bags. Plastic is terrible for the environment and paper requires cutting down trees.
        Sometimes I use my own bag, sometimes not, but I ALWAYS recycle the bags... I recycle everything I can.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      There are lots of solutions our leaders are ignoring...

      Which reminds me. Whatever happened to Amerityre after Goodyear bought it out?
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    People are constantly shouting about problems when there are viable solutions everywhere. Why aren't we doing more to develop them?

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, he's RIGHT! AIR is made up of a few gases. Methane isn't even really on the list. But methane is HIGHLY combustable. If it got to a certain point, smokers would easily burn it, not to mention pilot lights, sparks, etc.... Imagine all the CARS! Yeah, I don't think methane lives too long! If it gets much higher, it can KILL. It is one of the biggest fears in caves and the like, and that is one reason they had canaries, etc...

    ALSO, for every ounce of methane you get, you may get POUNDS, or even TONS of DIRT! Air is DIRTY!!!!!!!! You ever see an airfilter after a few months?

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Japan's also been working on plastic made of water - it's soft plastic, not hard, but think of all the toxic crap we could stop making and use non-toxic instead. I get sick of our leaders wrapping us in poison for their pockets, too. I just wish we could (or would get smart enough to) recall all of the assholes that are holding up our progress for their own convenience. Maybe they think that money keeps them in a bubble and the real world doesn't effect them. Pure selfish greed gone completely insane.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Japan's also been working on plastic made of water - it's soft plastic, not hard, but think of all the toxic crap we could stop making and use non-toxic instead. I get sick of our leaders wrapping us in poison for their pockets, too. I just wish we could (or would get smart enough to) recall all of the assholes that are holding up our progress for their own convenience. Maybe they think that money keeps them in a bubble and the real world doesn't effect them. Pure selfish greed gone completely insane.
      They ALSO have a plastic supposedly made out of CORN! Yeah, I said "HAVE", as in already using. Biodegradable water container made from corn

      When I was a kid, I sometimes wondered WHO ran the show. YOU KNOW! WHO said "THE JIG IS UP!" when there was a problem, a recall, an election. Well, I later found out, but NOW, it is being thrown in some people's faces. The answer? There ISN'T anyone! People are OPENLY breaking oaths, OPENLY defying the public, and OPENLY defying the best interest of the country. Have you heard the latest plan to take care of the CREATED and ASSISTED influx of illegals ? They plan to simply record them as homeless. That, with some non-chalant ignoring of contrary info, will trigger a whole bunch of neat little goodies to fall from the sky! They SUPPOSEDLY will limit it to only 5-6 million. But who is to say NOT ALL? HECK, we don't they make it 6 TRILLION so we could ALL be on it. I mean I would like the goodies ALSO! After all, I PAID for them. But if anyone spoke in such large numbers, people would probably instinctively know it isn't possible.

      Yeah, it makes you think that scifi isn't that far off. On SG1, at one time, for example, they found an apparently POWERFUL, GENEROUS, and INTELLIGENT race! And it was apparently HUMAN! It EVEN extended people's lives! But one guy in SG1 managed to find out what was really going on and had to piece things together to save the earth because the race was sterilizing and killing people to quietly take over the planet. Am I saying we have lizard people? NOPE! THEY weren't even lizard people! But we might as well have! They ARE intentionally killing people and doing a lot of other things the aliens did on that episode.

      And NOW I know the answer to the age old question of how is a golf club like a fiddle!

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    They're using dehydrated water to make that plastic.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      They're using dehydrated water to make that plastic.
      Just add water!

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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    As long as our "leaders" have their election campaigns paid by for by fossil fuels, etc., there will never be any common sense solutions to anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    You'd think that everyone's cat's would be petitioning for us to grow the stuff. Oh, maybe not.......I forgot. Catnip is actually legal.
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