How Do You Know When You are Being Professionally Scammed?

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Hi all, l almost didn't write this, as it is still a bit painful to think through, and l am still getting over this nasty virus, bought on by this event this week!

But the Mods, will hopefully make this a sticky, since newbies and more seasoned marketers alike should know about this, and especially some of the very clever tricks they use to gain your confidence!

Ok, to start l have posts on two dating sides, one, for over two years, (nothing much to show for that one) and one on a second more dodgy site, (since a friend is better than nothing).

The dodgy one said, (in their TOS) don't read unsolicited emails from individuals from our site, so l thought fair enough, but 6 months later l plum forgot about that rule!

Then the trash surfaced!


First lady, wanted the next best thing to a relationship, but also wanted me to invest almost $1000 into some weird leather gear, as well.

Through her friend of course, with seriously over inflated prices. The warning bells went off, and l thought it sounds like she has her hand out somewhere, or her address was fictious? She said her friend will offer a bulk discount, but it still sounded dodgy to me.

Either way l declined the supposed offer!


Being online for more than 6 years l thought, has my BS antenna finely tuned, l thought, but apparently not yet!


A few days later another email, this time from a supposedly young attractive woman, that lives about 45 minutes from me, and wanted to meet someone nice!

So l thought why not, and started talking to her!


At this stage she started sending in photos of herself, by the truckload at least 6 to 12 at a time, and eventhough we had some pretty big differences, l started to develop some feelings for her!

Over this time l rang her apartment in Preston, Vic, AU, (l am in Ringwood). And someone who seemed to fit her friends description answered the phone.

She discussed her days working in the hospitals, and her friends, (as l said this woman was a pro) and of course that she was vulnerable!

When she had to go overseas because her family was going to be evicted because, the original owner, only made a verbal agreement and passed on, and the new owner wanted to sell the place.

That was when the hook was set.

Then plenty of emails saying how tired she, was and stressed. And how the deadline was approaching for her to come back to AU, and start work, (she had a week's leave).

Then the deadline came up, she basically pleaded with me over the phone, (the phone was always one way, l could never ring her).

And l made the mistake of sending some money over to her, l won't say how much, but certainly more than a few hundred.

She wanted it through Western Union, to Chez Republic, which should have rung some more bells, but l still had the blinders on, and there was another trick she was using, that to this day, l can't figure out how?

As most know l am into spiritual stuff, she when she said, she loved me, and l was falling for her, l felt this connected between us!

This is a bit like metaphysical silken threat, which did feel stretched, when she went overseas. She mentioned it a few days after l noticed it.


To, this day l can't figure out how she could have staged it? Odd's on the images she showed me were from a previous victim. So how could a feel a connection with a womans voice and different image?

Maybe it was just a fluke, or the universes way of saying, this is what you are missing out on, or the love of money has its limits?

But either way, l thought that it was confirmation that she was genuine! Dumb mistake, that l will never make again!


After screwing me out of the initial payment, then she said that she wasn't allowed to leave the country, on the grounds that she has tax to pay on her Mothers Apartment, which supposedly thanks to my assistance, she now owned.


So, after that we went through more emails, more of her getting more and more stressed to make the new AU, flight, etc.

And saying to me that she was still $700 short.


This was when the cracks started to show!


She contacted me with a story that her boss in AU, will give her an advanced payment, just as long as l can help her of course!

Help, as in, supplying this....

This email wasn't changed in any way, the last one got so personal l couldn't post it here.

But as you can see, the last part was too big a bell to ignore!

I was thinking, why do l need to give her my drivers licence??? For a transfer of money in AU???? A PayPal email should be enough? And then asked for the same details, before commencing with that one. Because you can check Licence details online to confirm it is genuine, although confirming her work address, so l could check up on her would have been enough!

After this, l asked her to confirm the DUBAI/UKRAINE flight she was supposed to be on, to Melbourne airport. Which she confirmed that she would be on earlier. NO, reply, so since l could never get an answer out of her, regarding whether she drove there or not, l had to assume that l was going to drive her home instead?

2 Hours before arrival, no reply, (which there wouldn't be, the flight takes about 18 hours give or take, with one stopover). Although as airport security told me, she should have contacted me mid way!

So, l get there, with the airport parking ticking away at about $20 per hour, (convenient parking in Melb, Airport is expensive) waiting at the international departure area.

Three hours later, and very few passengers from any plane left, departing, l asked a staff member wouldn't flight 1050 blah, have departed by now?

To make a long story short l went to security, they figured it was an elaborate scam, and just told me they could do little and to go home.

I asked about a pub, but ended up with a coffee, and l seriously big chip on my shoulder.

But over three hours l also noticed a breach in security and a few women around me showing some interest, so that softened the blow slightly. Well the women part!


I drive home on the freeways, flawing it at time's, thinking how could l have been so dumb? But l understood at that point.

After that the second last email was about a new flight time, more supportive evidence, that l was being led.

I wrote back that l would love to also do things to her that l couldn't say here. Namely l wanted to tear off her head, and spit down it, (obviously l didn't say that). And also tried to get some of my money back so she could get more, which was a crock, on my part but worth a shot!

Understandably she didn't bite, send one more borderline pornographic email, and that was it!

Well, after l used some well phrased capital letters, that was it!


After that the Police, and after 45 minutes of them trying to figure out the dumb new wording of old scam rules, they said it wasn't significant enough an amount for them to investigate further!

Great if l gave her 100k, then they could have tracked this creature down?????

Next Western Union, (waste of time), alerting the dating site, that her profile is a front, (they have hopefully removed it). And my bank, still need to see them, haven't been able to with this damn virus, but there is a good chance l will get a big reduction with the interest, and other stuff?

So there you go, pretty much the worst week of my life!

But it is making me put serious effort into an online idea, that is or should be showing great promise.


And for the record l did try to figure out where she worked from a park she mentioned, but no, too crafty for that. There were at least 6 hospitals around this park, and all with similar names.

This creature might be warped, but still covers her tracks brilliantly.


Just image if instead of scamming people, she used her brilliant mind to help instead, or write a book about it?

Honest ways to make a lot online, are difficult to find, but they are there, and certainly better than stealing from the poor!


And there have been online scams involving up to 250k, a wealthy investor, invested this through a dodgy African charity company to help a struggling village for example.

Then he realizes, later on, the village ain't getting a cent, and the company which is probably a temp, rented space, is a front, and the organizer,s are counting his money, on a beach in Long Beach California!


I also tried to contact her supposed AU friend, which was on Holiday's of course? The whole &*(^% thing was well thought through, even scripted, but the wheels fell off, after the first pinch.


As l said the sooner people learn that real, honest money can be made online, but you have to keep at it til you find it, the less of this sort of crap will occur.

What l went through will probably save me a lot, long term, and l hope that this submission will help other new and more seasoned marketers, not to be fooled, or at least, do what l should have done, is ask for verifiable data first!

Thankyou!

Shane
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  • That is 1 Crazy Story... I feel for you... Thank you for sharing it with us all. I hope things are going better for you now.
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    • Banned
      "How Do You Know When You are Being Professionally Scammed?"

      That's an easy one for me. If I send them my picture and they're still referring to me as "My love," then I know that I'm being scammed.

      Sorry to hear about this. I am always shocked when someone relates this type of tale and very surprised when it happens to people that obviously possess enough intelligence to know better. That said, I guess in matters of the heart, intelligence goes out the window. When matters of the bank account begin to surface, it is imperative that whatever intelligence and common sense you possess kick into high gear.Yes, I know that match.com claims something like 486 people a day that met on their site get married, but I'd be curious to know how many of those people are still married a year or two later. Even with that I will never, no matter how long I live, understand why anyone would resort to an online search for a significant other.

      The Internet is a swamp. You have a much better chance of landing a frog than a princess.

      Regards. - Frank
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    Shane. Don't ever send money to strangers again. Dates don't require a down payment. lol.
    Sorry this happened to you.
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    • You got off easy, I have a friend who tried to warn his brother, but it ended up costing him $30,000 before he woke up.
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  • Shane;

    Honest to God, man...I though this was a joke, until the ending.

    So...the idea of Not sending money to an online person you have never met....still doesn't occur to you?

    Shane; People who care for you, don't ask you for money. That's what the universe is trying to tell you.
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  • Does "Identity Theft" come to mind?
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    Dude! I had to read this again to be sure that I wasn't hallucinating. You're a train wreck waiting to happen.

    You're not aware of the fact the the airport is a frequent haunt of prostitutes looking for business travelers saddled with a few hours long layover? And you're tickled that a 'few' women were paying attention to you? Are there ever instances where a few women ever pay attention to you outside of airport waiting rooms? I kinda doubt it or you probably would not have gone to the lengths you did in an effort to find love. Am I correct?

    Sounds to me like you have way too much of your self-esteem wrapped-up in whether or not you have a women in your life or at least paying a bit of attention to you.

    What's up with that and how's that working for you?

    I hate to be cruel (right), but you need to get your head screwed-on straight, lest the next mercenary be someone in your own back yard that takes you for a very long, slow and expensive ride. If you think that the local authorities will be able to help you because it's a local scam - dream on. This happens to people every day all around the world and a woman does not need to actually commit any type of crime that she could ever be prosecuted for to completely wipe you out, financially.

    I would say, "A word to the wise," but I have not heard anything that confirms the 'wise' aspect of your personality.

    Man up. It's OK not to have a woman in your life and when you are supposed to it will happen without investing anything more than the cost of a nice meal and a modestly priced bottle of wine. I can assure you that it will not involve anything that remotely resembles a financial interrogation from someone who could be from Dun and Bradstreet attempting to qualify you for a $1M loan.

    Remember, it almost impossible for someone to love you if you haven't learned to love yourself. That's not just some trite platitude. That's a fact of life.

    Cheers. - Frank
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  • And what are the rest of us, chopped liver?!
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    Can I borrow $20?
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    • A friend of mine's daughter got into being a Financial Dominatrix. Yes, there is a market for that.

      She had a website where she would send a picture of a part of herself for money, insult and dominate a client by phone, text or email, the pay my (adopt a bill) section of it was popular too.

      Some clients attitude were well I'd rather give my money to you than my greedy wife?

      She did really well and a contract was drawn up with clients beforehand that was airtight.

      She took Paypal payments until they eventually pulled the plug. then switched to gift cards.

      She earned thousands from all sorts of people, professional people, doctors etc who would gift her money, laptops, you name it.

      One guy she told me about worked in a signal box and she told him to leave the signal box (not allowed ) and go and buy an ice cream coronet and come back and call her, then she told him to throw it on the ground.

      Unbeliveable stuff.
  • did you think to check the ip address, it is easy enough to do and, at least gives an indication of location

    life goes on
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    • Shane; If you are going to insist on meeting girls online, there are plenty of sites to find local girls, that you can actually meet and form a real relationship with.

      Don't tell them about this incident. If fact, don't tell anyone else about this incident. No matter how you will describe it...it will hurt you.

      A local (for you) search on Match.com should give you something to think about.
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  • Shane did you see this article in The Age yesterday? Sounds like a similar situation to yours:
    http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/f...819-3dyge.html


    Andrew
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    • Well, on reflection not really, l clearly stated that l was clapped out financially and her mother owned her apartment now.

      So if she lost her job, etc then so be it!

      The whole thing is a joke, l wish!

      No l am genuinely a nice guy, honestly, but l do need $1000 immediately so my precious vacumn cleaner doesn't explode and kill everyone within a three mile radius!

      And a predicted earthquake, tidal wave and hoard of locusts don't inundate my home!

      Only you can save me Claude baaaaaaaa, baaaaaa!



      As this article shows, a lot of people here could do what this low life did to me if they were motivated enough!

      But l believe it takes more courage and determination to make it honestly than dishonestly!


      Don't worry Frank, l have loved myself til l am or was blue in the face, so understand the concept!

      Waiting rooms, wouldn't know about that one?

      But you might be right, but the short Italian lady looking straight at me while waiting with her parents, was probably legit.

      And l was waiting for my fictitious, &*^$!

      Train wreck, hmmm, l would buy a train with serious mechanical issues, getting serviced as we speak as being more accurate!


      No l only mentioned a bar, to force down a double scotch on ice, to null the pain!

      But l was worried about driving home, so went for a coffee instead!

      Yep, been there tried pretty much all of it! Including being in a social group for a few years.

      But l agree with others, just forget about it, and it will happen on its own.

      I suspect that when l sort myself out financially and socially of course, then it will probably the right place, right time thing!

      Rome wasn't built in a day, but l keep trying!


      No real human virus, not PC!

      Only today while writing this, my ears still feel like l am wearing ear plugs constantly, and l am a small step away from feeling nausea!

      I still have a fever as well, which is fun to say the least!


      He, he, yes l am getting there! At least being screwed by a pro, gets it out of the way, l can spot a dodgy shiny object from miles away, and a pro scam as well?

      I can't laugh at her though, unless head tearing, and spitting is involved! Well, that and rotting in hell! But that is a given!


      go see Claude and you will get your answer!


      No, Chez Republic is a big country, also a scamming capital unfortunately!

      If l had a couple of tactical nukes, then perhaps?


      Yes, l was with a quality site for 2 years before realizing, that it was a waste of time, and went for the more dodgy option.

      As l said when my finances pick up my profile picks up, that picks up, l should get a better response rate!


      And gladly ditch the scammers party site!

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  • Well, I sure wish my un-see ebook wasn't a joke right now because I really wish I had never clicked on this thread.

    Shane - if you were here right now, I'd slap you silly. Let me tell ya pal - you got off easy. WAYYYYYY easy. Not too many years back - in Boise, a serial killer that called himself something like "Monkey-Man" or some such on the dating sites was arrested with quite a prodigious numbers of murders under his belt -- all women who fell for a lot of crap online and decided it was just fine and dandy to meet this dude in rather precarious locations because they'd emailed back and forth and he was such a great dude.

    Point blank. You need to get a grip. You need to do it fast. How long have you been in a forum that is an excellent source for teaching people how not to get scammed? What the hell have you done with all that info?

    I could use some big bucks right now myself -- and I guarantee I can out write any of that crap that guy was writing to you. And yes. It was a guy - I'm a linguist and can tell just from reading that email you posted that it was no woman writing that swill.

    The correct answer to a situation that you got yourself hooked into is "sorry about your problems, baby. If you get into town sometime, call me and maybe we'll do lunch".

    Don't say I'm being rough on you just because this or that. I have "met" a few guys from online. Local guys. I met them in well populated coffee shops or restaurants - parked where they couldn't get the plate # of my car. They've all turned into a very quick cup of coffee and checking the phone and seeing a phony call I never got and having to "run - sorry, it was nice meeting you" then a very careful glance back here and there to make sure I wasn't being followed.

    I know it can be hard now and then being alone. Even though I'm single by choice, some nights it would just be nice to have someone comfortable around. You know what's worse? Being strapped with someone who's a jackass and you wish wasn't around when they are.

    I've been taken back a few times at the depth to which you feel insult or rejection when someone doesn't see eye to eye with you. You take things extremely personally. That obviously works in reverse as well. It would do you good to remember that when people disagree with you it's not always personal, it's just people being frank with you about what they think. It works the other way around to. Sometimes when people are nice to you it's not personal either. In this case it was actual abuse.

    I think that it's time for you to start thinking a little bit objectively and realizing that everything isn't about Shane and looking at the bigger picture. An egocentric view of the world is a very dangerous thing. Stop it. The person you just dealt with was nothing about Shane. Not one damned thing other than the credit card. Those emails were probably bulk and the person who got the bucks wouldn't know "Shane" even as the name on the payment. Go look at those emails again and tell us what you find in them to be anything about Shane.

    Serious guy - If I sound overly harsh it's because, at this point in the game, I think it's time that harsh is about what you need to get your feet back on the ground.
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    • True, each email, seemed to go down the "going to bed" and "Can't live without you crap"!

      Can't really answer the forum scam posts, except that when you see some damn light at the end of a very long tunnel, blindness tends to result!

      Yes she or he, whatever, said in several emails, that she was alone in a double bed, and craved some company, blah, blah!

      Literally layed it on with a dump truck, so l wouldn't catch on!

      I literally couldn't believe that a heart seal connection with a scam artist was even possible, but apparently they have witch on their payroll as well?


      Well some talked about me, but most were general!


      That's ok, Sal a bit of tough love, is also appreciated!

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  • It's only a bad experience if you don't learn from it

    There are all kinds of predators out there. I've got a profile on one of the more popular dating sites. Several times I've been contacted by women much younger than I. I realize there are plenty of women that dig older guys. Still when a young chick makes contact it always arouses my suspicion. Earlier this year a gal contacted me with a long articulate appeal that we should get together. Optimistically cautious I wrote back. We exchanged a few emails. After the third one I just sensed something was weird. I don't know what made me do it but I copied a short paragraph from one of her messages and Googled it. What an eye opener.

    I found a series of paint by the numbers romantic templates. The same stuff she'd been sending me. I was blown away. The gal that had contacted me wasn't very creative as someone with just a little imagination could customize these things and do some serious damage. There were a couple of lessons there for me. One, trust your gut. The other was that there seems to be no limits to what some people will do to rip you off. I'm no pushover but had this women been a little more sophisticated I can't say what I might have done.

    There's another story that again, related to the age issue. There's a national Website called meetup.com. It's not a dating site. It's an everything site. Any conceivable thing you might want to discuss with other people is open. Anyone can start a group and hold meetings. Meetup.com just acts as a facilitator. I joined a group devoted to discussing metaphysics. I attended the first meeting and wasn't all that impressed. With one exception.

    There was a blonde there that was just amazing. Dressed to the nines, pretty, smart, the works. Meetup.com allows group members to share as much info as they want. I pretty much had everything out there. So this blonde contacts me on Facebook the day after the meeting and wants to be friends. No big deal I thought. So I friended her. Then I start getting private messages and she's asking me what I like to do, am I single, any kids, etc. I thought it was a bit on the aggressive side but answered and then asked her the same stuff.

    Her messages began to get more personal and familiar so I asked her to lunch. We went out a couple of times and I felt really good. But still, I was getting a weird vibe. Long story short. I was going through my pants pocket before washing them and pulled out her phone number. She'd given it to me over FB and I kept it. I put it on my desk. Later that day just for the hell of it I did a Google search on the number.



    La la la Lola! She's a transexual escort. I find eight ads on four different sites explaining all the weird shit she's willing to do if you book a "date." She's using the exact same picture she uses on Facebook. Now, I've kissed this "person" a couple of times and almost feel dirty saying I enjoyed it.

    Here's the part about trusting your gut. When this individual sat across the table from me at our first lunch date I got this weird feeling that she might have been a transgender. She has sort of a husky voice and wolfed her food down like a freakin' linebacker. But my head immediately jumped to one of the pics she has up on FB. It's her and a younger blonde woman in a light embrace. The caption: My beautiful daughter. So I shrugged off my gut instinct and just went along with it knowing sex change babes don't have babies. Ugh.

    Needless to say, I called her on everything and she denied it all saying her girlfriends put the ads up as a practical joke and even if it was true it was none of my business, yadda, yadda.

    I wrote a short poem about the experience:

    I once kissed a girl who once was a boy and all I could say was "OY!" Live and learn.
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    • Do you still have her/his phone number? I'm asking for a friend.
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    • It never occurred to you that "she" might be the father?
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  • As Dennis and others have implied (but it is actually a fact), the number one place to meet a partner is at night-school/tech/college/a course.

    You'll meet women you have something in common with. Even if they are all partnered up, they will invite you to parties/dinners/etc., where you'll meet their single friends. Because they know what a great guy you are, they'll throw in a good word for you to them.

    You're welcome.
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    • Good point Whateverpedia, l was or did go to a newagish group a year or so ago, probably need to consider that group again?

      Certainly better than a dating site, that has been pretty useless, unless l plan to meet a veteterran with a masters digree in sociology?

      Or stay a member on the other one, with the list of scammers. Maybe they should rename that one...

      Golddiggers.com ?



      PS Thanks!

      Well, thanks to everyone who posted positive comments and the ones that didn't, l am glad this thread wasn't trolled, l might have had to let the mods delete the lot, but thankfully it has stayed positive overall!
    • Shane;

      I learned how to meet women by observing stray cats, getting to know each other.

      I follow a women I'm interested in. When she turns around, I act like I wasn't following her. This way, she gets used to my presence. That's the trick. Every day, just follow a little closer. Maybe offer her a cracker.

      After a few months, she will get used to seeing you, and one day, you can just show up at her kitchen for breakfast, and she won't be startled.

      OK, to be fair, I haven't tried it on a woman yet, but it works well with stray cats.

      You're welcome.
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  • Shane, how many 'shrooms do you consume before you post? Just so you know, a handful is too much.
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    • Shrooms????? Maybe you mean mushrooms, niah we don't really have those here!


      I might read a few pages form the fluffy bunny death book, while consuming, Jack Daniels on the rocks, with a couple of disprins, and tranquilizers thrown it, just to make it scary!

      Although the Idiots Guide to The Top 10 Things Men Want to Do to, Con-artist Women" but were afraid to ask, is on my short list!


      But l don't have any ill=feelings towards her, at all as long as...

      l could meet her in a large padded, soundproofed white room, with a large drain, and a large wooden meat cleaver!

      But rotting in an Asian prison for at least 20 years would be a close second!

      I was surprised at how many people come to AU, with their luggage wrapped up in plastic!




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  • Shane,

    Predators gonna go after prey. The scorpion always stings the frog.

    There have been con men throughout history because it works - at least a little, for at least a little while.
    Meaning that there have always been victims - and always will be something vulnerable and nice in a lot of people. At different times in their life.

    When I was young and tired of working for other people and had just vowed to become self-employed
    come hell or high water, I invested in a passive income opportunity. I even thought I was clever because I "negotiated" to get in for a lot less than the $15,000 the con men wanted to become full "distributors"
    with "exclusive" territories. I even met another distributor who did pay the full 15K (I paid 3K). She was a
    college degreed, commercial airline pilot. Something vulnerable in all of us that these guys took advantage
    of. Many get sick of working for someone else, or want passive income, or get rocked to the core by their
    employers' reaction to a down economy.

    Anyway, sorry it happened to you. Am glad it was not more money involved. Am also glad violence was not involved. I worked as a doorman, aka bouncer, at a night club. We saw a lot of people meet in person for the first time after meeting through Craigslist or an internet dating sight. The smart women would have their friends near by in case they needed to get away from a "dud", or they could get the signal that things were ok.

    One time, though, this female - who was a bartender (of all professions - you'd think she would know better) - drove 65 miles to meet her internet match at his house. She left her truck at his house and they came to our bar in his SUV. He got drunk and was taken away by the sheriffs, whom we rarely called for the drunk and disorderlies. She stayed the night on the couch at another doorman's house. When they went to retrieve her truck, her belongings were all over the "date's" lawn, and her truck battery was in two pieces on the ground. For some reason, luckily, the guy was not around and it is good she did not go home with him.

    As Dennis and the others have said, meet girls where you are at your best. Doing stuff you are interested in. Classes, groups, volunteer stuff...

    If you do try the internet route again and think she might be worth pursuing, use some video chat thing first. Or, if local, meet for lunch or tea somewhere and take cautions. (I did that once too. Gave out a little too much info and this girl from the internet figured out where I worked and called pretending to be my sister. Bit stalkerish, but just an annoying experience and she left me alone.)

    One other thing, you were not in a caring, committed, exclusive real relationship with this con person.
    So, you would not have been breaking any rules or codes if you at least got the number of that Italian woman at the airport. Take the stress and false hope and pressure away by realizing that there a lot of women out there to meet for a lot of different reasons until you find the one you are going to become mutually exclusive with. You'll meet some for friendship, some for business, some for dating, some may introduce you to their friends or relatives... Abundance.

    Dan
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    • Thanks Claude!


      Yes, see this all too often in movies, the original series is brilliant, and ticks all the boxes and 99% of the time the remake of the movie or tv series is crap!

      Why?

      A group of inexperienced, teenagers, get together with a pile of cash behind them, and try to make it better by drastically changing it, in other words, F**** it up so much, not even a die hard fan would bother!


      The Time Tunnel, 1966 version, is a classic example, of this. The original series, brilliant, really captures the essence of how we would like the concept to be. Enormous budgets, a hidden complex, a clean and fresh lab, and a seriously cool looking tunnel, that stretches on for a good km, or 2!

      Then we get the 201? something remake version of it, crap!!!!

      It is set in a long tunnel, or a leftover from the cold war. The tunnel is a series of rings, or what they called hot fusion, and when they turned it on, it causes the time effect!

      Now, the whole complex, apart from the control tower, is ugly, water streaked cement, and a long tunnel that looks about as inspiring as the inside of a aircraft being built!

      The tunnel apparently attracts time storms, groan, that make the occupants disappear, and of course, since time storms naturally occur, individuals get thrown from one event to another, and they have to go back and fix it!

      BORING!!!!

      What is it with these morons????? They have a brilliant concept and then F**** it all up?

      So l will watch all the old one,s but modern, no, l will just throw it in with the recent Doctor Who series, and hope that the thrashed, take over the world, slimey creature in the basement niche gets ditched!

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  • I used to do some reading on a site that was a group of people into "scambaiting". You know those Nigerian emails you get saying they've got $500k to transfer into your country and you can have $100k, it's the inheritance of blah blah?

    These guys respond and string the scammers along, for months at a time. The goal is to waste as much of the scammer's time and money as possible, as this distracts them from getting other victims.

    I used to be in actual tears of laughter reading some of them. And the stuff they would make them do, like "My company requires photo proof that you are indeed Mr ..... before we send you the $5k transfer fee" (which is what the scammers are after in the first place). So these Nigerians would get a tattoo of the fictitious company name and send a photo, or whatever crazy stuff the baiter would get them to do. It was hilarious.

    You could play them along if you get bored. Turn it into a positive.

    www.419eater.com At the top, go to "Letters Archive".
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    Hi all, l almost didn't write this, as it is still a bit painful to think through, and l am still getting over this nasty virus, bought on by this event this week! But the Mods, will hopefully make this a sticky, since newbies and more seasoned marketers alike should know about this, and especially some of the very clever tricks they use to gain your confidence!