The Official 2014- 2015 NBA Thread. Lets get it on !!

10 years ago

Sorry Robert, my full attention is devoted to Football until end of Jan next year...

I do agree with most of what you've said, even a 100% Koby has no chance with Lin and Hill...

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discrat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

Sorry Robert, my full attention is devoted to Football until end of Jan next year...

I do agree with most of what you've said, even a 100% Koby has no chance with Lin and Hill...

I totally get that , Sales.

I am first and foremost a UT Fan ( Tennessee that is... as it is my Alma Mater)

But last 9 years have gotten into NBA since living in a Basketball city

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Bill_Lawrence

10 years ago

My Cavs are gonna take it all...

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discrat 10 years ago

We will see, Bill.

It sure will be interesting to see the Team dynamics up there
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Bill_Lawrence

10 years ago

Lebron, Love, Kyrie...smh this is gonna be exciting. I've been a Cavs fan since I was 6. I've definitely lived through some rough times...Glad to see things are changing.

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discrat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill_Lawrence

Lebron, Love, Kyrie...smh this is gonna be exciting. I've been a Cavs fan since I was 6. I've definitely lived through some rough times...Glad to see things are changing.

Damn Bill, that is a true fan to stick it out with a team like the Cavs for that long.
You sure are no fair weather fan

Makes me even want to root a little for you.

NOT !

j/k

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discrat 10 years ago

Nothing to do with this upcoming season but just curious to why some see this as the best dunk in NBA history ?

I think it is impressive as he seems to be suspended in mid air longer than he should have. Kind of an optical illusion, I don't know.

I'm looking at it again and maybe his knee catapulted off Jackson's upper chest area to get him higher towards the time he should have been coming down.

But the best dunk ever , though ?

NBA Dunk - Tom Chambers vs. Knicks - YouTube
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Dan Riffle 10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

You sure are no fair weather fan

They don't make fair weather fans in northeast Ohio. First, there's no fair weather. Second, it's beaten into us at birth.
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- discrat 10 years ago
  
  You all Cavs seem to have a real good 1st year Coach.
  
  Read an Article about him in SI few weeks ago.
  
  He is a journeyman who has a tremendous amount of international experience.
  
  Just reading the Article is was pretty in depth and he looks to have a truly gifted and brilliant basketball Mind.
  
  He was well overdue for an NBA head coach position
  
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- TimPhelan 10 years ago
  
  Whew! That was close! I thought Riffle's post would attract Claude to this thread. I think we're safe now guys.
  
  Of course the Lakers will be back. Just a matter of time.
  
  Well, this will be year four of my 20 year curse against the Lakers. It's called the "no more Lakers' rings curse".
  
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  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Whew! That was close! I thought Riffle's post would attract Claude to this thread. I think we're safe now guys.
  
  Does he have some sort of 'Riffle GPS Device" or something LOL
  
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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Here's my only prediction for the upcoming season, and it's a two-parter...

The Bucks will win more games than last year, but they'll still suck.

And there it is.

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TLTheLiberator

10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Okay guys I apologize I just couldn't wait any longer for someone to start this. So I did!

( So sorry for the premature speculation

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But the Season officially starts next month.

And Hope I am not being presumptuous in starting this Thread.

Because, I don't know maybe there is a certain protocol where someone "higher" than me here at Warrior has to start an "Official" Thread like this ?

If so you can delete this thread and do it the way you want to do it.

Otherwise, lets GET IT ON GUYS

I am picking the Spurs. Big surprise right

Without the big three at Miami it will be easier for them this year BUT it will NOT be easy whatsoever.

I repeat ( before you guys ambush me lol) it will NOT be easy whatsoever

The Western Conference is stacked.

Warriors, Trail blazers, Clippers, Thunder are ALL legit contenders.

Will this year be the year Durant breaks through to a Championship ?

Also Koby thinks he has a chance with Lin and Hill. And quoted that he and the Lakers will "shock" some people this year.

Laker nation opens up at Dwight and Rockets on Oct. 28. It will be interesting to see how Koby reacts towards Howard and especially Lin versus the whole Rockets

Crazy mentality to think that he has a chance to make a Run ???

When you have 5 titles and you play for the Lakers I would argue NO !

But still unlikely.

Cavs are going to be at least 2 years out before they make it to Eastern Conference Championship, IMO

It is going to be fun

Since Paul George is hurt for the season, I don't see a problem with the Cavs coming out of the east this season.

BTW...

Why don't you keep my Lakers out of your mouth? LOL!

The main goal of a franchise is to grow it's equity and to win championships.

The last time I looked we're beating the pants off you guys in both categories.

But in all fairness, you guys royally served the Heat last season and props are due but Pop won't be around forever and he title you have a good chance of winning this upcoming season will be your last in a very long time.

But this is a long, long war and you will...

Cease and desist in your petty vendetta against the Lakers or I will be forced to continually harp on your lack of titles when compared to ours.

Sincerely,

Laker Fan #1

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discrat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Since Paul George is hurt for the season, I don't see a problem with the Cavs coming out of the east this season.

BTW...

Why don't you keep my Lakers out of your mouth? LOL!

The main goal of a franchise is to grow it's equity and to win championships.

The last time I looked we're beating the pants off you guys in both categories.

But in all fairness, you guys royally served the Heat last season and props are due but Pop won't be around forever and he title you have a good chance of winning this upcoming season will be your last in a very long time.

But this is a long, long war and you will...

Cease and desist in your petty vendetta against the Lakers or I will be forced to continually harp on your lack of titles when compared to ours.

Sincerely,

Laker Fan #1

Hey TL,
I was wondering when you might make your presence

But in my defense I did say that Koby and Lakers are NOT crazy for thinking that they are going to shock some people.

Like I said if anyone can he can.

Of course the Lakers will be back. Just a matter of time.

As far as this Season last time for awhile for the Spurs ?

I don't know think so. Leonard is already superstar status and will just keep getting better as well as Splitter and Greene who will keep getting better too. If we can hold on to Mills he will be NBA All Star shortly and the Future looks good.

Anyway, glad to see you back

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Bill_Lawrence

10 years ago

Cavs have enough to beat Indy even if they had Paul George.

Are any of you into fantasy basketball or football?

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TimPhelan 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill_Lawrence

Cavs have enough to beat Indy even if they had Paul George.

Agreed and easily. Indy lost their second best player in Stephenson. They are really going to struggle this year.

I think Chicago is the main competition in the East although a couple of the teams should improve quite a bit. I've been watching the FIBA World cup and Derrick Rose looks pretty good. He doesn't seem to be completely back offensively, but his defense is going to make Chicago really tough in the East. If he can stay healthy I think they can beat the Cavs.
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Bill_Lawrence

10 years ago

It's gonna be a battle. I like the team Washington has assembled too.

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TimPhelan 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill_Lawrence

It's gonna be a battle. I like the team Washington has assembled too.

Yeah Bill, Wash is one of those I think should improve a lot. Another is New Orleans who have Anthony Davis ( who may be the most important player on the USA FIBA team ), Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson, Jrue Holiday, Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon ...They will be greatly improved this year.
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Adie

10 years ago

I'm not from US or Germany but my heart still stays with Dirk.. Go Mavs!!!!

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discrat 10 years ago

Yeah Adie it will be nice to see Dirk the first Game of the Season when my 'boys' officially collect their 2014 NBA championship Rings on Oct. 28 th

One more down and just 11 more TL lol
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Bill_Lawrence

10 years ago

Does anyone have a fanduel account so that we can play fantasy basketball?

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discrat 10 years ago

Saw talk recently about Spurs pondering over final spot on their Roster.

Some are whispering Ray Allen's name.

Mixd feelings here. I cant stand the guy the last couple of years with the Heat.

But he definitely could be an asset in the rotation. Mills will be gone half of season.

So it could work out.

Thats wierd though, Ray Allen a Spur
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Lance K

10 years ago

If the Cavs stay healthy I'll pick them to beat the Bulls in the Eastern Conference Finals.

And if the Spurs can stay healthy, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them repeat and then Duncan & Ginobli ride off into the sunset.

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Alex Blades

10 years ago

Cavs are going to be at least 2 years out before they make it to Eastern Conference Championship, IMO

I am a homer and bias for sure, but to say the Cavs are two years away from reaching the finals, is wishful thinking. I've seen Lebron take a team full of bench players to the finals

I think the Cavs will be in the Finals this year for sure, and may even win it all. The only thing that worries me about the Cavs, is staying healthy.

As far as the spurs go, I don't see them coming out the West this year. They are to old, and you have to wonder if Manu and Parker can stay healthy.

Damn Bill, that is a true fan to stick it out with a team like the Cavs for that long.
You sure are no fair weather fan

Not sure where you heard this from, but Cleveland has the best fans on the planet. Cleveland is the second poorest city in the country, yet they still manage to support the top 3 major sports. Some of the biggest cities in the world couldn't even support one major team, let alone three. Cleveland is a poor city, but with a big heart.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

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I think the Cavs will be in the Finals this year for sure, and may even win it all. The only thing that worries me about the Cavs, is staying healthy.

As far as the spurs go, I don't see them coming out the West this year. They are to old, and you have to wonder if Manu and Parker can stay healthy.

Iam glad what is said on the Internet stays here 'almost' permanently.

We will see in 9 months if what you are so confident about really happens

That would be a sucker bet in Vegas if you actually took that, imo !

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Alex Blades

10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Iam glad what is said on the Internet stays here 'almost' permanently.

We will see in 9 months if what you are so confident about really happens

That would be a sucker bet in Vegas if you actually took that, imo !

I don't bet but I am feeling very good about our chances. To brush off a team of K-Love, LBJ, Kyrie, Marion, Waiters, Thompson, Miller, Andy as a team lucky to get out of the East, is pure denial

It's unfortunate that I don't bet, because that is a suckers bet my ass. I would have loved to have made a bet before LBJ came back and the odds were 90-1

Iam glad what is said on the Internet stays here 'almost' permanently.

I have no problem with that, I really like our chances this year, and if they do win it this year then people will say "OH THEY HAD TO STACK THE ROSTER TO DO IT"

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discrat

10 years ago

Sometimes Superstars end off doing worse than better.

I am not saying it will happen with Cavs.

But Love and Lebron are Superstars and sometimes the Chemistry just does not workout.

It is more than having Superstars on your Team.

Honestly, not one person on the Spurs at least consider themselves Superstars.

And the fact is Parker and Ginobili have twice as many NBA Championships as LBJ.

Duncan has 2.5 as many.

It ALL based on chemistry not superstars.

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Alex Blades

10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Sometimes Superstars end off doing worse than better.

I am not saying it will happen with Cavs.

But Love and Lebron are Superstars and sometimes the Chemistry just does not workout.

It is more than having Superstars on your Team.

Honestly, not one person on the Spurs at least consider themselves Superstars.

And the fact is Parker and Ginobili have twice as many NBA Championships as LBJ.

Duncan has 2.5 as many.

It ALL based on chemistry not superstars.

I agree, but the x factor is Lebron. He makes every around him better. Just having LBJ and K-Love on the roster allows them to open up the floor for everyone else. Had it been K-Love, Kyrie and another star it would be different, but when you open up the floor for Lebron, great things happen. No more double and triple teaming.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

I agree, but the x factor is Lebron. He makes every around him better. Just having LBJ and K-Love on the roster allows them to open up the floor for everyone else. Had it been K-Love, Kyrie and another star it would be different, but when you open up the floor for Lebron, great things happen. No more double and triple teaming.

Good point. It will be interesting.

Honestly, just glad LBJ is not with Heat.

I do believe that they would have Won additional championships with him in the next 5 years

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discrat 10 years ago

Spiltters revenge on LBJ

First video 2013 Finals.
Great defensive play by LBJ.
Notice the Chosen One turning his back on a Live play to soak in some adulation.

Lebron James amazing block on Tiago Splitter...

The second video...no explanation needed ( indirectly get the video here)

A Portrait of Tiago Splitter - Pounding The Rock
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- discrat 10 years ago
  
  Saw where Calipari is having an NBA Combine of sorts which he invited 30 NBA Scouts toofficially come in October to see all the NBA talent he has at UK.
  
  He mainly uses this for his own recruiting purposes to get high school phenoms to watch and then commit.
  
  Pretty smart tactic but is this good way to approach College Athletics ??
  
  Basically, just a feeder ground for NBA and thats pretty much it !
  
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10 years ago

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TimPhelan

10 years ago

Anyone else watching the FIBA world cup? Spain, which some considered the favorite, was upset yesterday by France. I can't see anyone beating the US now, but we'll see. The US plays Lithuania in a couple hours. Farried has been a beast! Him and Davis have dominated so far.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Anyone else watching the FIBA world cup? Spain, which some considered the favorite, was upset yesterday by France. I can't see anyone beating the US now, but we'll see. The US plays Lithuania in a couple hours. Farried has been a beast! Him and Davis have dominated so far.

I've been watching...Faried wasn't sure he'd even make the team. Then he became a starter. And in the games I've watched, you could make a good case that he's been the MVP for Team USA.

He can get you 15-17 points without running a single play his way, just from hustle.
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And he's a really good guy. He's my favorite NBA player.

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TimPhelan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I've been watching...Faried wasn't sure he'd even make the team. Then he became a starter. And in the games I've watched, you could make a good case that he's been the MVP for Team USA.

He is one of the leading candidates for MVP of the whole tournament. I would bet he will get it in fact. He's playing great! He has some very unique abilities. His quickness and relentlessness is what sets him apart I think. It's hustle but something more than that. My girlfriend says he reminds her of Rodman and I agree, although they have different games. Farried is a better offensive player and will likely improve on that end. I keep thinking to myself "I would love to have him on the Warriors." lol

Another player who has played well all tournament is Klay Thompson. I am so happy the Warriors didn't trade him for Love.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

He is one of the leading candidates for MVP of the whole tournament. I would bet he will get it in fact. He's playing great! He has some very unique abilities. His quickness and relentlessness is what sets him apart I think. It's hustle but something more than that. My girlfriend says he reminds her of Rodman and I agree, although they have different games. Farried is a better offensive player and will likely improve on that end. I keep thinking to myself "I would love to have him on the Warriors." lol

Another player who has played well all tournament is Klay Thompson. I am so happy the Warriors didn't trade him for Love.

A little trivia...did you know Faried is the NCAA's all time career rebounding leader?

I've said this before, but Manimal is maybe the fastest jumper I've ever seen. He gets off the floor so quickly.

Now, let's hope Nuggets coach Brian Shaw figures out how to use Faried correctly. I'm tired of hearing all the trade talks about Faried. If it was up to me, I'd trade Shaw to the Zen Master and keep Faried if I had to pick between the two.

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TimPhelan

10 years ago

I had heard that piece of trivia before Kurt, but if someone had asked me I probably wouldn't have recalled. Now I think I will remember. I can't believe the Nuggets would even consider trading Faried! Are you serious? This guy should be the franchise player to build around.

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A little trivia...did you know Faried is the NCAA's all time career rebounding leader?

I've said this before, but Manimal is maybe the fastest jumper I've ever seen. He gets off the floor so quickly.

Now, let's hope Nuggets coach Brian Shaw figures out how to use Faried correctly. I'm tired of hearing all the trade talks about Faried. If it was up to me, I'd trade Shaw to the Zen Master and keep Faried if I had to pick between the two.

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discrat 10 years ago

Some NBA Owners should just learn to shut up, lest they get Pop on their arse

Gregg Popovich Calls Out Robert Sarver For Calling The Spurs Out
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- TimPhelan 10 years ago
  
  The 13th annual NBA GM ( general managers ) survey just came out and my Warriors are the most fun to watch! Not surprising to me because they really are very entertaining and highly competitive. I was a bit surprised at the % of GM's who said so though.
  
  1) Warriors -- 57.1 percent
  2) Clippers -- 21.4 percent
  3) Spurs -- 17.9 percent
  4) Thunder -- 3.6 percent
  
  Other results from the NBA 30 GM survey:
  
  Which team will win the 2015 NBA Finals?
  1. San Antonio -- 46.2%
  2. Cleveland -- 15.4%
  3. Chicago -- 11.5%
  L.A. Clippers -- 11.5%
  Oklahoma City -- 11.5%
  6. Golden State -- 3.8%
  Last year: Miami -- 75.9%
  
  Which team will win the Eastern Conference finals?
  1. Cleveland -- 70.4%
  2. Chicago -- 25.9%
  3. Washington -- 3.7%
  Last year: Miami -- 86.2%
  
  I'm picking Chicago
  
  Which team will win the Western Conference finals?
  1. San Antonio -- 55.6%
  2. Oklahoma City -- 29.6%
  3. L.A. Clippers -- 11.1%
  4. Golden State -- 3.7%
  Last year: San Antonio -- 40.0%
  
  OKC is going to have a tough time without Durant. I can't see them winning like they did when Westbrook was out last year. Warriors are better than the Clippers.
  
  1. Anthony Davis, New Orleans -- 29.6%
  2. Bradley Beal, Washington -- 14.8%
  3. Andre Drummond, Detroit -- 11.1%
  Klay Thompson, Golden State -- 11.1%
  5. Kenneth Faried, Denver -- 7.4%
  
  I agree with all of these, but think Klay will have the biggest jump.
  
  Who is the best point guard in the NBA?
  
  1. Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers -- 71.4%
  2. Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City -- 10.7%
  3. Tony Parker, San Antonio -- 7.1%
  
  I couldn't put Paul over Parker simply because Paul hasn't taken any of his teams to even the Conference finals in his career. I also think Curry is right up there with Paul, or at least will be this year.
  
  1. James Harden, Houston -- 63.0%
  2. Klay Thompson, Golden State -- 18.5%
  3. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 7.4%
  Stephen Curry, Golden State -- 7.4%
  
  I would have to agree right now but Klay should catch up and surpass Harden this year. Thompson is a way better defensive player and Harden is better offensively now.
  
  Who is the best power forward in the NBA?
  1. LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland -- 25.0%
  Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 25.0%
  3. Anthony Davis, New Orleans -- 21.4%
  
  Kevin Love is at only 7%. Interesting. I would have thought he would have been higher.
  
  Who is the best perimeter defender in the NBA?
  1. LeBron James, Cleveland -- 25.0%
  2. Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio -- 21.4%
  3. Tony Allen, Memphis -- 17.9%
  4. Jimmy Butler, Chicago -- 7.1%
  Andre Iguodala, Golden State -- 7.1%
  Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers -- 7.1%
  Klay Thompson, Golden State -- 7.1%
  
  The warriors have two of the top 7 perimeter defenders according to the GMs. Hey, we play tough D now.
  
  Which head coach runs the best offense?
  1. Gregg Popovich, San Antonio -- 77.8%
  2. Rick Carlisle, Dallas -- 11.1%
  
  Which head coach has the best defensive schemes?
  1. Tom Thibodeau, Chicago -- 92.9%
  2. Gregg Popovich, San Antonio -- 7.1%
  
  Who is the best assistant coach in the NBA?
  1. Alvin Gentry, Golden State -- 17.9%
  2. Adrian Griffin, Chicago -- 7.1%
  
  Which player is the best pure shooter?
  1. Stephen Curry, Golden State -- 60.7%
  2. Kyle Korver, Atlanta -- 28.6%
  
  Yep.
  
  Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?
  1. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 76.9%
  2. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 7.7%
  LeBron James, Cleveland -- 7.7%
  
  Have to agree with this, but I find the percentage surprising.
  
  More results:
  
  http://www.nba.com/news/features/joh...-15-gm-survey/
  
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  discrat 9 years ago
  
  Finally, OPENING DAY is here !!
  
  Spurs will get their Rings tonight when Dallas comes to town.
  
  My picks this year.
  
  Western
  1. Spurs
  2. Clippers
  3. Thunder
  
  Eastern
  1. Wizards
  2. Cavs
  3.Bulls/Heat
  
  Finals
  Spurs Beat Bulls in 6
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

Watch out for the "Balkan Bear", Nuggets first first round pick Jusuf Nurkic. He's 7 ft, 300 pounds, very strong and was an impressive rebounder in pre season...he looks like the real deal. It's interesting that he says he feels small compared to his dad, who is 7'4", weighs 450 and is a cop.

We are very deep. I'd put our second string up against any backups in the NBA. But we are missing a true "go to" player and I'm not fond of coach Brian Shaw. He needs to prove to me this year he's a better coach than George Karl was. I don't think he will.

And bad news for the Lakers, losing Randall to a broken leg in the first game of the season. I hate seeing injuries, even to TL's Lakers.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

And bad news for the Lakers, losing Randall to a broken leg in the first game of the season. I hate seeing injuries, even to TL's Lakers.

Mee too. I like Randal and think he will be a star.

Funny, even before seeing that injury I found myself rooting for the Lakers! I never do that, but I'm not much of a fan of the Rockets either these days.

The Spurs/Maverics game was a good one. Two very well coached teams with a lot of talent.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Mee too. I like Randal and think he will be a star.

Funny, even before seeing that injury I found myself rooting for the Lakers! I never do that, but I'm not much of a fan of the Rockets either these days.

The Spurs/Maverics game was a good one. Two very well coached teams with a lot of talent.

Yeah I want to give TL a big hug so I am kind of rooting for those Under dogs as well

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah I want to give TL a big hug so I am kind of rooting for those Under dogs as well

Let's not get carried away...

Did anyone read Josh Smith's comments about Kenneth Faried?

"I don't respond to nobody with dreadlocks who plays basketball," Smith said. "He's a clown, quote me on that."

A couple of things..First, he DID respond to Faried with his comment saying he doesn't respond and calling Faried a clown.

Next, Josh Smith took 22 shots to get 25 points (10 of 22). Faried took 12 shots ( 8 of 12) to score 22 points. Plus, Faried had 17 rebounds. All despite missing most of the 3rd with foul trouble.

BTW, The Balkin Bear had 7 boards in 13 minutes. This is exactly what he did in preseason, averaging a rebound every two minutes. I know it's very early, but so far I really like this kid.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Did anyone read Josh Smith's comments about Kenneth Faried?

Smith sounds as ignorant as hell. At least Faried knows he isn't a three point shooter. Smith has averaged 1.6 3PA per game on 28% efficiency throughout his career. As Barkley would say "Just turrible".

By the way, my Warriors take on the once mighty Lakers tonight, who actually played the Clippers pretty tough last night.

On another note, fivethirtyeight, the website of Nate Silver, ranks the Warriors as the statistical favorite to win the Championship among the Western Conference teams.

Kerr also inherits a defense that finished fourth in the league in defensive efficiency last season. Golden State’s defensive prowess, built on holding opponents to 46 percent shooting from inside the arc, the third-best mark in the league, was masked by its frenetic pace. The Warriors were sixth in the league in tempo last season, which meant that they actually gave up only the 10th-fewest points per game.

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Klay Thompson off to a great start!

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9 years ago

Looks like OKC took another hit with Westbrook breaking his hand. The good news for them is they should get both Westbook and Durant back in mid season. They'll probably lose some seating positions for the playoffs, but should be OK by then.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like OKC took another hit with Westbrook breaking his hand. The good news for them is they should get both Westbook and Durant back in mid season. They'll probably lose some seating positions for the playoffs, but should be OK by then.

They played the Clippers pretty tough last night even after Westbrook was injured. Says something about their depth and coaching I think. Plus, it says something about the Clippers, who didn't play well in the preseason and seem to still be struggling.

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9 years ago

Go Cavs!!!

After 4 long years of losing, it's good to see winning basketball again

Klay Thompson off to a great start!

Financially also, he got his 70 million dollar contract extension

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My picks:

East: Cavs, Bulls, Heat

West: Spurs, Mavs, Clippers.

Finals: Cavs vs Clippers

Champions: Cavs

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

Go Cavs!!!

After 4 long years of losing, it's good to see winning basketball again

Financially also, he got his 70 million dollar contract extension

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My picks:

East: Cavs, Bulls, Heat

West: Spurs, Mavs, Clippers.

Finals: Cavs vs Clippers

Champions: Cavs

Interesting.
Yeah I am reanalyzing my position about the Mavericks They look to be solid this year

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9 years ago

Cavs are going to be at least 2 years out before they make it to Eastern Conference Championship, IMO

So much for that prediction

Cavs in five IHMO, of course I am a homer

vs Warriors, what a year they are having

What a pick up J.R Smith and Shumpert has been

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9 years ago

How do you stop a player like Harden, James and Curry who will attack your defense? Attack them. All three are among the top in the league in turnovers. Attack them before they attack you. Harden broke the record for turnovers in a playoff game tonight.

Of course you need the defense to attack that elite player. The Warriors have the number one defense this year and the players who have the ability to cover Harden as much as possible and cause turnovers. Now, let's see if they can do the same to Lebron. At least for a couple games. You can't stop him every game that's for sure.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

How do you stop a player like Harden, James and Curry who will attack your defense? Attack them. All three are among the top in the league in turnovers. Attack them before they attack you. Harden broke the record for turnovers in a playoff game tonight.

Of course you need the defense to attack that elite player. The Warriors have the number one defense this year and the players who have the ability to cover Harden as much as possible and cause turnovers. Now, let's see if they can do the same to Lebron. At least for a couple games. You can't stop him every game that's for sure.

I'm flabbergasted that the Warriors have the number one defense in the NBA to go along with that explosive offense.

I don't see how Cleveland can beat them in a 7 game series, so my pick is your boys in 6 - congrats!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I'm flabbergasted that the Warriors have the number one defense in the NBA to go along with that explosive offense.

I don't see how Cleveland can beat them in a 7 game series, so my pick is your boys in 6 - congrats!

Thanks TL. I just might take my curse off the Lakers for that. Lol Well, maybe just take a few years off it. I don't want to get too carried away now.

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Thanks TL. I just might take my curse off the Lakers for that. Lol Well, maybe just take a few years off it. I don't want to get too carried away now.

Look Tim, I was sucking up as best I could in hopes of getting the curse removed but I should have known that you are not so easily fooled by anyone's (especially a formerly overly arrogant Laker Fan) political posturing.

But then again, I don't see how you could lift the curse without endangering your own prospects, so I guess I sucked up for naught -drats!

But you really do have a great team and I looks like I'm going to have to respectfully bend a knee as long as you reign supreme in The Land of The NBA.

And I guess I'm glad you hail from the same division as I.

Enjoy!

TL

Ps. That game you went to must have been a lot of fun - congrats.
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  Thanks again TL. Yeah, I had a blast at that game.
  
  By the way, Lil B got that curse shit from me. If he don't give me props I'm going to put one on him next. He must be lurking around this forum. Hear that Lil B?
  
  Chicago just fired coach Thibodeau and weren't very classy on how they did it. I think the Pelicans might just sign him up real quick and that just might be a great fit for him. Pelicans d was not very good last year.
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I'm flabbergasted that the Warriors have the number one defense in the NBA to go along with that explosive offense.

I don't see how Cleveland can beat them in a 7 game series, so my pick is your boys in 6 - congrats!

Not so fast, the Cavs have the best D in the post season, and can score with the best of them. I'm hoping experience wins out. Cavs in 5

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9 years ago

Mr. Rose is hurt again.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

The Cavs sure don't look like contenders yet. Portland killed them last night, limiting Lebron to just 11 points total and none in the 2nd half. Kyrie Erving shot just 3 for 17. Their defense is not very impressive either.

Houston is looking pretty good so far but some tougher games coming up for them including my Warriors later this week. Warriors play the Clips tonight. Can't wait for that one.

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9 years ago

The Cavs have a ways to go.

And Tim that will be a good one tonight. We will see how much the Warriors are made of this year. Some are picking the Clippers to win the Western Conference

I think Kerr should be a good Coach.

The Warriors are a little bit of an anomaly.Last season with Curry and Thompson they had incredible three point shooting ...and it gave the impression of a real high powered offensive attack.

No disrespect , but in actuality they were closer to average among the Elite teams as they ranked 12th in points per possession.

It really was the Warrior's 3rd ranked defense last year that got them those 50+ wins.

So you get those two things balanced out and they could be unstoppable, really.

Spurs face Hawks in tonight's game. Splitter makes season debut. A very long 4 day break at beginning of Season.

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9 years ago

Yeah, one of the reasons Mark Jackson is gone is because many fans and pundits thought the Warriors underperformed offensively. He ran a lot of ISOs that drove us nutts. This years offense looks a lot better already even though they are just getting used to it.

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9 years ago

My Warriors beat the Clippers easily. Very easily!

Loved it. These teams really don't like each other. Before the game Griffin didn't want to shake any Warriors' hands. During the game, after the Dubs got a huge lead, Bogut was trash talking in Griffin's face. And then there was this:

Draymond Green sticks his tongue out at Blake...

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9 years ago

Lol, Blake Griffin is soft, he should have shoved him or pulled his tongue out his mouth

Looks like there is trouble in paradise, with my Cavs. I think they will end up trading Dion Waiters, hopefully they get a rim protector in return.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

Lol, Blake Griffin is soft, he should have shoved him or pulled his tongue out his mouth

Looks like there is trouble in paradise, with my Cavs. I think they will end up trading Dion Waiters, hopefully they get a rim protector in return.

I think Mr. Griffin is worried about protecting his commercial appeal more than being soft. If he co-cocks someone like Kareem used to do his non-Clipper income may go away.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I think Mr. Griffin is worried about protecting his commercial appeal more than being soft. If he co-cocks someone like Kareem used to do his non-Clipper income may go away.

He doesn't have to co-cock him, all he has to do is shove him out the way, instead of pretending he didn't see him

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He doesn't have to co-cock him, all he has to do is shove him out the way, instead of pretending he didn't see him

I love Dray, but if he did that to me and I was Griffin, I think I might just lift my arm to get him out of my face and accidentally hit the bottom of his jaw so he takes a good bite of his tongue. Griffin is soft though. Hard Core? Not so much.

Ready to watch Spurs vs Rockets now. Should be a good one!
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9 years ago

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He doesn't have to co-cock him, all he has to do is shove him out the way, instead of pretending he didn't see him

If that dude wants to stick his tongue out like an idiot then god bless him but I wouldn't take the chance of messing up my endorsement money over that crap.

I have a feeling that sooner or later he will be forced into a real scrape with another player who's not a star - like that dude sticking out his tongue.

Having said all that, are the Warriors that upset because he didn't want to touch them before the game started?

Anything going on there?

I believe the same thing happened in a recent Maryland/Penn State college football game where the captains of one team didn't want to shake hands during the coin toss.

Don't mind me, I'm just upset my Lakers suck this year and will probably suck for at least a few more years to come. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Unfortunately, Tim's curse seems to be working.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

If that dude wants to stick his tongue out like an idiot then god bless him but I wouldn't take the chance of messing up my endorsement money over that crap.

I have a feeling that sooner or later he will be forced into a real scrape with another player who's not a star - like that dude sticking out his tongue.

Draymond Green isn't a household name yet but he just may be an all star this year. Kerr calls him the heartbeat of the Warriors and if the Warriors have the best record going into the All Star game Kerr just might name him to the team. It would be well deserved if he does. Green is a unique talent and someone any team in the NBA would want.

Highlights from last nights triple double game for Draymond:

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9 years ago

Another night, another impressive win for my Warriors, easily defeating a Durant/Westbrook led team by over 20.They are playing some terrific bb. I don't think the stats really show how well they have played because most of their games are lopsided wins, which is way different from last year when we had so many close games.

Here are some stats though, that do show their dominance right now: #1 in point differential per game at 10.7. Dallas is 2nd at 7.6 and no other team is about 7. #1 in offensive fg %. #1 in opponent fg%. #1 in differential in fg % at 6.5% ( no other team is above 3%! )

I know it's still early, but it seems they are only improving under the coaching of Kerr and his assistants. I liked Mark Jackson, but wow, what a good decision to get Kerr. Plus, not trading Thompson for Kevin Love was very smart.

Here's a short video of highlights of Curry from last night. He is having an MVP caliber year imo.

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9 years ago

Okay, okay Tim. Let that head get even bigger and bigger

No , they are playing great Ball !

But how come when I ever tout my Spurs ( at least last year) TT gets on me saying that the Spurs have a long way to go to ever catch his Lakers ,and tells me to simmer down ?

But when you tout your Warriors he is giving you a resounding Thanks. LOL

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Okay, okay Tim. Let that head get even bigger and bigger

No , they are playing great Ball !

But how come when I ever tout my Spurs ( at least last year) TT gets on me saying that the Spurs have a long way to go to ever catch his Lakers ,and tells me to simmer down ?

But when you tout your Warriors he is giving you a resounding Thanks. LOL

Lol. Funny. I think it's becuse he feels the Spurs are a threat to catch up to his beloved Lakers in number of Championships.

OK, there are other teams playing really well. How about the Hawks. They have a long time Spurs assistant Budenholzer doing wonders with that team. They are legit. So is Toronto. Chicago is playing great ball now. Washington is very tough. The East doesn't have as many quality teams as the West, but those four teams are top notch. In the West, Portland is playing great ball, as is Dallas.

Oh, and it's interesting how the Pistons win six in a row after releasing Josh Smith, and then the Rockets lose 4 of 7 since he was signed.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Lol. Funny. I think it's becuse he feels the Spurs are a threat to catch up to his beloved Lakers in number of Championships.

OK, there are other teams playing really well. How about the Hawks. They have a long time Spurs assistant Budenholzer doing wonders with that team. They are legit. So is Toronto. Chicago is playing great ball now. Washington is very tough. The East doesn't have as many quality teams as the West, but those four teams are top notch. In the West, Portland is playing great ball, as is Dallas.

Oh, and it's interesting how the Pistons win six in a row after releasing Josh Smith, and then the Rockets lose 4 of 7 since he was signed.

Yeah, that Pistons game last night was a heart breaker. Spurs leading by 1 point with the ball and a few seconds left. Pistons steal it and score a bucket with no time left . Crazy.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Roy Tarpley, former star with Dallas back in the late 80s to early 90s dies at 50. He was one of the most talented players who never reached their potential because of drug problems, being banned for the NBA for life at an early age. He could have been a hall of famer with the talent he had. Another player that comes to mind who had similar problems was Michael Ray Richardson, who played with the Warriors for one year. RIP.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Roy Tarpley, former start with Dallas back in the late 80s to early 90s dies at 50. He was one of the most talented players who never reached their potential because of drug problems, being banned for the NBA for life at an early age. He could have been a hall of famer with the talent he had. Another player that comes to mind who had similar problems was Michael Ray Richardson, who played with the Warriors for one year. RIP.

Former Dallas Mavericks big man Roy Tarpley dies at 50 - ESPN Dallas

Roy Tarpley was a great, but tragic player. Dying at 50 makes it even more tragic. If a player isn't caught cheating, I've never understood why they get booted out of the league for a substance problem, taking away their only real support system. There has to be a better way.

BTW, Michael Ray is a Denver kid...He went to the high school closest to my own high school and was from the same neighborhood. Last I heard he was doing pretty well and was an assistant college bball coach somewhere.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Okay, okay Tim. Let that head get even bigger and bigger

No , they are playing great Ball !

But how come when I ever tout my Spurs ( at least last year) TT gets on me saying that the Spurs have a long way to go to ever catch his Lakers ,and tells me to simmer down ?

But when you tout your Warriors he is giving you a resounding Thanks. LOL

LOL!

Tim's right.

The Spurs are more of a long term threat to my Lakers than the Warriors and since Tim's also a pretty cool guy and they're in the same division, I wish his Warriors all the best - especially since my Lakers may be null and void for at least a few more years.

Even people in supermarkets were looking at me in my Lakers tee shirts and then smiling at me as if they know something I don't know.

One guy (who I don't even know) gave me the Edward G. Robinson line from the Ten Commandments...

"Laker fan? Where's your God now Laker fan?"

And had a very good laugh on me.

I was flabbergasted and all I could do was to reply with a weak movie line of my own...

"We'll be back."

But you and your upstart Spurs - that's another matter. I have heard on good authority, that devious and diabolical plans are being made to stop your franchise right in its tracks.

Congrats on another championship but sorry I can't wish you many, many more.

All The Best!!

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9 years ago

TL and I want to tell you that basketball sucks. Don't you folks have anything better to do with your time?

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

TL and I want to tell you that basketball sucks. Don't you folks have anything better to do with your time?

Lol. Hey, the Nuggets are talented. The coaching...?

Barkley says he isn't going to eat until the Lakers win.

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9 years ago

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Lol. Hey, the Nuggets are talented. The coaching...?

Barkley says he isn't going to eat until the Lakers win.

Last year we were really injured, so I gave Shaw a bit of a pass. This year we are probably deeper and more talented than the team the won 57 games under George Karl the year before last.

I don't think Brian Shaw is a very good coach. He has said he can coach any style of player or philosophy, but I think that really means that he can't coach any of them well. This is a team that needs to run and be uptempo. Shaw simply doesn't insist that they push the ball.

Last year, the local beat writer said, that during a losing streak, Shaw would yell and berate players in the locker room. I just don't respect that kind of coaching. I doubt Coach K or John Wooden did a lot of berating players.

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discrat 9 years ago

nice win by Warriors.

Spurs are getting taking to the woodshed as we speak.

they are looking dreadful. Not looking like a reigning NBA champion
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Last year we were really injured, so I gave Shaw a bit of a pass. This year we are probably deeper and more talented than the team the won 57 games under George Karl the year before last.

I don't think Brian Shaw is a very good coach. He has said he can coach any style of player or philosophy, but I think that really means that he can't coach any of them well. This is a team that needs to run and be uptempo. Shaw simply doesn't insist that they push the ball.

Last year, the local beat writer said, that during a losing streak, Shaw would yell and berate players in the locker room. I just don't respect that kind of coaching. I doubt Coach K or John Wooden did a lot of berating players.

Karl knew what he was doing with that team. I guess the main thing with him was they didn't get far in the playoffs? Well, at least they got to the playoffs and got that experience. Firing him was just a bonehead move. He gets coach of the year and then gets fired, now the team is struggling. SMH.

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nice win by Warriors.

Spurs are getting taking to the woodshed as we speak.

they are looking dreadful. Not looking like a reigning NBA champion

I can't wait for the Warriors to play Houston on Saturday! I am expecting a nice win.

The Spurs are not playing well and Houston is playing pretty good. I wouldn't worry about the Spurs though. I do wonder if Pops would continue to rest his older guys if the team is around .500 after 20 games or so.

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Having said all that, are the Warriors that upset because he didn't want to touch them before the game started?

Anything going on there?

It goes back a couple years. Last Xmas they had a fight where a couple guys got Ts and I think it was Draymond Green who got thrown out along with Griffin. Heck, they have even gotten into it after games, outside the locker room.

Unfortunately, Tim's curse seems to be working.

Well, I did put a limit on it. You only have 16 more years before it ends.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Karl knew what he was doing with that team. I guess the main thing with him was they didn't get far in the playoffs? Well, at least they got to the playoffs and got that experience. Firing him was just a bonehead move. He gets coach of the year and then gets fired, now the team is struggling. SMH.

This is a big pet peeve of mine in sports. I call it the "Marty Syndrome". Marty Shottenheimer has been fired from a few jobs because he "can't win the big one". But how's that worked out for the teams that fired him, other than maybe San Diego? How have the Browns or Chiefs done since? KC hasn't won a playoff game since 1993. Marty even led Washington to an 8-8 record, where other coaches like Shanahan, Joe Gibbs and Spurrier haven't come close to .500 with Washington.

Karl's teams only won one playoff series in 9 straight playoff appearances. But at least we made the playoffs 9 straight years with Karl. This string was snapped last year, the first year after Karl was fired.

If you're going to fire Karl, you better have John Wooden's ghost under contract to replace him.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

This is a big pet peeve of mine in sports. I call it the "Marty Syndrome". Marty Shottenheimer has been fired from a few jobs because he "can't win the big one". But how's that worked out for the teams that fired him, other than maybe San Diego? How have the Browns or Chiefs done since? KC hasn't won a playoff game since 1993. Marty even led Washington to an 8-8 record, where other coaches like Shanahan, Joe Gibbs and Spurrier haven't come close to .500 with Washington.

Karl's teams only won one playoff series in 9 straight playoff appearances. But at least we made the playoffs 9 straight years with Karl. This string was snapped last year, the first year after Karl was fired.

If you're going to fire Karl, you better have John Wooden's ghost under contract to replace him.

Yeah, Don Nelson had that rap also. However, both Nelson and Karl knew how to get the best out of the players they had, that to me is a big part of being a great coach. Neither won a Championship but you can't tell me that if either had the teams that Phil Jackson or Pat Riley had they wouldn't have done just as well, if not better.

Speaking of Nelson, he doesn't seem to get the credit for being an innovative coach. For some reason, he and a few other coaches, including Denver's Doug Moe, are over looked and instead Mike D'Antoni gets all the credit for an uptempo style offense. It drives me nutts whenever I hear an announcer say D'Antoni revolutionized the NBA.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yeah, Don Nelson had that rap also. However, both Nelson and Karl knew how to get the best out of the players they had, that to me is a big part of being a great coach. Neither won a Championship but you can't tell me that if either had the teams that Phil Jackson or Pat Riley had they wouldn't have done just as well, if not better.

Speaking of Nelson, he doesn't seem to get the credit for being an innovative coach. For some reason, he and a few other coaches, including Denver's Doug Moe, are over looked and instead Mike D'Antoni gets all the credit for an uptempo style offense. It drives me nutts whenever I hear an announcer say D'Antoni revolutionized the NBA.

Doug Moe had the same rep. Dan Issle was an good center, but he wasn't Kareem. Fat Lever was an excellent point guard, but he wasn't Magic. How does any coach overcome that?

Doug Moe was an excellent coach and my favorite Denver coach of all time for any sport. He had the perfect personality for being a coach. He'd bench a player for poor play, but his "doghouse" lasted only until the end of the game. After the game, he'd be seen with that player having a beer and the next game it was like nothing ever happened.

His Nuggets teams had a bad rap for not playing defense, but this really wasn't true. The Nuggest problem back then was rebounding. TR Dunn and Bill Hanzlick could play defense with the best of them.

After Moe was fired, the Nuggest were horrible for about a decade, and to be honest, I lost quite a bit of interest during that span. I hope it doesn't happen again. It's hard to root for a team that losing a lot over a long period of time.

PS...About Phil. It's a lot easier to win when you have the best player and/or the best two players in the NBA. He does deserve credit for winning with those players, but having MJ, Shaq and Kobe probably helps just a little. Same for Reilly. I could win a few games as a coach with Kareem and Magic on my team.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

PS...About Phil. It's a lot easier to win when you have the best player and/or the best two players in the NBA. He does deserve credit for winning with those players, but having MJ, Shaq and Kobe probably helps just a little. Same for Reilly. I could win a few games as a coach with Kareem and Magic on my team.

Agreed. I used to say the same thing when Magic and Kareem were playing. Heck, I think we both could have won a Championship with those teams, Kurt. The thing about Phil, is he never coached a team that was rebuilding. He won't do it now with the Knicks either. That would make a serious dent in his record and stature as the "greatest coach ever" ( not my title for him ).

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Alex Blades 9 years ago

Having said all that, are the Warriors that upset because he didn't want to touch them before the game started?

Anything going on there?

I heard about that somewhere
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Agreed. I used to say the same thing when Magic and Kareem were playing. Heck, I think we both could have won a Championship with those teams, Kurt. The thing about Phil, is he never coached a team that was rebuilding. He won't do it now with the Knicks either. That would make a serious dent in his record and stature as the "greatest coach ever" ( not my title for him ).

Phil's never coached a team without the best player in the league on it. He's the ultimate cherry-picking coach.

Have you noticed that he doesn't have much of a coaching tree? He has Brian Shaw and now Kerr and Fisher. Kerr will do well, but not so sure about the other two.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Phil's never coached a team without the best player in the league on it. He's the ultimate cherry-picking coach.

Have you noticed that he doesn't have much of a coaching tree? He has Brian Shaw and now Kerr and Fisher. Kerr will do well, but not so sure about the other two.

Yeah, and Kerr learned under Popovich also. Popovich has a much bigger tree.

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9 years ago

I watched the Denver/Cavs game and was thinking about the Nuggets' coaching. One thing I don't get is why Farried only played 22 minutes and scored just 8 points with 7 rebounds? Is he hurt Kurt? If not, I just don't get why he isn't having a huge year coming off that extremely impressive performance at the FIBA world cup. The Nuggets did make it interesting at the end though.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I watched the Denver/Cavs game and was thinking about the Nuggets' coaching. One thing I don't get is why Farried only played 22 minutes and scored just 8 points with 7 rebounds? Is he hurt Kurt? If not, I just don't get why he isn't having a huge year coming off that extremely impressive performance at the FIBA world cup. The Nuggets did make it interesting at the end though.

Faried's healthy. It was a "coach's decision". IMO, Shaw has never known what to do with Faried. I doubt we'll ever confuse Shaw for Coach K.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Faried's healthy. It was a "coach's decision". IMO, Shaw has never known what to do with Faried. I doubt we'll ever confuse Shaw for Coach K.

Well, if he can't figure out how to use him, how about we do a trade? Harrison Barnes and David Lee for Faried.
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  Well, if he can't figure out how to use him, how about we do a trade? Harrison Barnes and David Lee for Faried.
  
  How about Shaw and a large pizza for Kerr instead?
  
  On a serious note, the Nugs don't need more players. We need to trade two or three of our own for one very good player. We go 3 deep at almost every position and have good players that can't get playing time. We "just" need that one go-to player (and a coach).
  
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Alex Blades

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Phil's never coached a team without the best player in the league on it. He's the ultimate cherry-picking coach.

Have you noticed that he doesn't have much of a coaching tree? He has Brian Shaw and now Kerr and Fisher. Kerr will do well, but not so sure about the other two.

I agree, Phil Jackson is a cherry picker, his triangle is a joke IMO. You need ATLEAST two H.O.F's and a bunch of good role players for it to work. Derrick Fisher is proving what I've always known, the triangle offense doesn't win championships, H.O.F's do.

Popovich is the greatest coach of all time IMO, Phil is not even close. To be considered a great coach, you have to be able to coach, not ride coat tails. You could put Joe Neckbone as coach on those championship teams, and he would be in the same convo as Phil. Phil Jackson is the biggest coat tail rider of all time.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Warriors win, stay undefeated and on their way to 82 and 0. You heard it here first! Undefeated baby! Of course, we then lose in second round. :0

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discrat 9 years ago

Leonard's last second shot looked like it was going in. But it rolled around rim and they lose by point.

we got the Clippers tomorrow and then you all Tuesday........ what a stretch

We need bleeding to stop.

What a perfect way to stop bleeding if we could win these next two Road games. Something to get them jump started. But a long shot !
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Warriors win, stay undefeated and on their way to 82 and 0. You heard it here first! Undefeated baby!

In the history of predictions that one was proven wrong pretty fast

You jinxed them. its all your fault

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

In the history of predictions that one was proven wrong pretty fast

Lol. We should have won that damn game too! It's hard to win with 26 turnovers though. That's our achilles heel and I know Kerr is getting very frustrated by it.

Originally Posted by discrat

we got the Clippers tomorrow and then you all Tuesday........ what a stretch

We need bleeding to stop.

What a perfect way to stop bleeding if we could win these next two Road games. Something to get them jump started. But a long shot !

I will be rooting for you guys tonight.

Last year, the Spurs rested all their stars for a game at the Warriors, and we still lost. I sure hope that doesn't happen again.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

I agree, Phil Jackson is a cherry picker, his triangle is a joke IMO. You need ATLEAST two H.O.F's and a bunch of good role players for it to work. Derrick Fisher is proving what I've always known, the triangle offense doesn't win championships, H.O.F's do.

Popovich is the greatest coach of all time IMO, Phil is not even close. To be considered a great coach, you have to be able to coach, not ride coat tails. You could put Joe Neckbone as coach on those championship teams, and he would be in the same convo as Phil. Phil Jackson is the biggest coat tail rider of all time.

Talk about being at the right place at the right time... but at least he didn't mess it up.

I remember when we played the Nets in the NBA Finals, Phil commented that Larry Brown did not give him a job - after Larry expressed the same sentiments as The Blade above.

BTW,

What wonderful magical city/team is your favorite in the NBA? That's if you have one and are ready to declare them for all the world to see.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I love the Shaqtin a Fool bit. Here's the first one of the regular season.

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Alex Blades

9 years ago

What wonderful magical city/team is your favorite in the NBA? That's if you have one and are ready to declare them for all the world to see.

I was born and raised in Cleveland Ohio, Cavs, Browns, and Indians fan here

We've been through alot of heart breaks and disappointments with Cleveland sports, but booooooyyy do we love our teams here

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

I was born and raised in Cleveland Ohio, Cavs, Browns, and Indians fan here

We've been through alot of heart breaks and disappointments with Cleveland sports, but booooooyyy do we love our teams here

I have lots of family in the Cleveland area.

Congrats on the return of the king. I suspect you will be contending for an NBA title soon and how about those Browns?

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discrat 9 years ago

Quote of the day last night,

"We've got to start giving him the ball," Popovich said. "I don't think Tim and Manu are going to play any more than six or seven more years, so somebody else, do something."

Lets see they will both be 44 or 45 when they stop playing

Wishful thinking, Pop lol

Big game tonight at Warriors
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I have lots of family in the Cleveland area.

Congrats on the return of the king. I suspect you will be contending for an NBA title soon and how about those Browns?

Even with Lebron coming back, and trading for Kevin Love, this is still a Browns town

Good to see some winning football again, hopefully they can keep it up

Off topic but Miami Browns fan here (You have to go way back to get the connection). Its been a loooooooooong wait for my brownies to start making some noise again. just please

No more the Drive or The fumbles.

I still remember the drive and fumbles, that was heart breaking, especially watching Elway drive down the field

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Reality check for Warriors. They ain't #1, that's for sure. The Spurs are still the top dog. Great back to back wins for San Antonio!
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Originally Posted by Alex Blades

We've been through alot of heart breaks and disappointments with Cleveland sports, but booooooyyy do we love our teams here

Off topic but Miami Browns fan here (You have to go way back to get the connection). Its been a loooooooooong wait for my brownies to start making some noise again. just please

No more the Drive or The fumbles.
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Kurt

9 years ago

The Nugs are down 84-50 at the half and at home. Giving up 84 points in a half? Down 34 at home at halftime? Seriously?

If this continues much longer, I'm checking out until Brian Shaw is fired. This is ridiculous.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

The Nugs are down 84-50 at the half and at home. Giving up 84 points in a half? Down 34 at home at halftime? Seriously?

If this continues much longer, I'm checking out until Brian Shaw is fired. This is ridiculous.

Wow! 84 at the half!? That is hard to believe. A 1-6 record is also! I wonder how long it will take the owners to fire him? Doing that would kind of mean they would have to admit they made a mistake and these owners are real pigheaded aholes sometimes who are not used to ever admitting doing anything wrong. Is Josh Kroenke the main problem here Kurt?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Wow! 84 at the half!? That is hard to believe. A 1-6 record is also! I wonder how long it will take the owners to fire him? Doing that would kind of mean they would have to admit they made a mistake and these owners are real pigheaded aholes sometimes who are not used to ever admitting doing anything wrong. Is Josh Kroenke the main problem here Kurt?

Sorry Tim, I missed this post.

Actually, I like Josh Kroenke. I know his rich dad gave him the team, but he does have a background in basketball and played at Mizzou (I think). He's just a little young and needs more experience. He's also runs the Colorado Avalanche, which his dad also gave him, so I think he's spread a little thin.

But, I believe he really wants to win and will spend the money to do so, which is about all a fan can ask for. He did make a very bad decision firing Karl though, although I think there may be more to the story. But I think most of his decisions have been pretty good.

BTW, the Nuggs are starting to play a lot better...

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9 years ago

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9 years ago

uuugghhhh. Another place where my Mavs get no love.

Let me tell yall what's gonna happen. Tyson Chandler is back. JJ Barea is back. It's gonna be a repeat of 2011. Only team in the way is the Spurs, and this year, Tim Duncan finally gets too old. Everybody else in the way is just fodder. Especially Cleveland if they make the Finals.

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discrat 9 years ago

Holy Sh@t, the Nuggets beat Cavs at Cleveland !!

WTF ?

James had a cold but still a big win for a a team that needs some confidence.

Lawson and Afflalo looked pretty tough.

Spurs got Cavs Wednesday

Should be good
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  Spurs got Cavs Wednesday
  
  Should be good
  
  The Cavs ain't ready for the Spurs. Should be a blowout.
  
  Memphis destroyed Houston tonight and now have the best record in the league.
  
  By the way, the Kings filed a protest over the end of their loss to Memphis. Protests rarely work but this time they seem to have a good case. The ball seems to be deflected when it was inbounded and that would have started the clock and ended the game. We'll have to see if they overturn this win for Memphis.
  
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  The Cavs ain't ready for the Spurs. Should be a blowout.
  
  Well, I was wrong about that one. It was a good game.
  
  So, now the Cavs have lost 4 in a row and are not looking good at all. A big problem is depth. The second team last night started blowing an 18 lead in the second quarter, and they eventually lost by double figures to Toronto.
  
  Toronto is looking really good so far. They have a real solid roster and are well coached. Maybe they will be the team to beat in the East.
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

And for the 7th straight time, my Denver Nuggets beat TL's Los Angeles Kobes in overtime. The game in the 4th quarter was a real "klankfest" with the score 14-11. Ouch!

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

We had a klankfest last night too. One thing you have to hand to okc while their two stars are injured: they still play very tough d.

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9 years ago

Well, my Warriors are playing pretty damn well right now. Their defense is continuing where it left off last season, ranked #1 for opponent's field goal %. Their offense is improving almost every game and their new players are really contributing. Plus, it's hard to say who on the team has improved the most since last season: Curry, Thompson, Barnes, Bogut, Speights or Green. They have had an easy schedule the last two weeks, so we'll see how long they can keep the best record in the league.

Last night's game against the Pelicans was a fun one to watch. Anthony Davis is as good as everyone is saying. He plays like a small guy in a large body and that makes sense because just 4 years ago he was a 6'2" point guard!

Here's a play by Curry I loved. First he steals it. Then behind the back dribble to the same hand, one bounce and then a behind the back pass to Thompson for a three!

Steph Curry is toying with the Pelicans \|...

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, my Warriors are playing pretty damn well right now. Their defense is continuing where it left off last season, ranked #1 for opponent's field goal %. Their offense is improving almost every game and their new players are really contributing. Plus, it's hard to say who on the team has improved the most since last season: Curry, Thompson, Barnes, Bogut, Speights or Green. They have had an easy schedule the last two weeks, so we'll see how long they can keep the best record in the league.

Last night's game against the Pelicans was a fun one to watch. Anthony Davis is as good as everyone is saying. He plays like a small guy in a large body and that makes sense because just 4 years ago he was a 6'2" point guard!

Here's a play by Curry I loved. First he steals it. Then behind the back dribble to the same hand, one bounce and then a behind the back pass to Thompson for a three!

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discrat 9 years ago

Nice Tim.

They got a good one coming tonight at Chicago.

Should be a good game.

Spurs had come out looking very weak at Brooklyn Wednesday , but came back last night really strong at Memphis.
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  Wow the Warriors got 12 straight wins after beating Bulls tonight.
  
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  Yeah, that was a good win Robert. I was a bit worried about that game because we have had a terrible time in Chicago for many, many years. Curry and Thompson have both had terrible games there the last couple of years.
  
  This team is starting to remind me of your Spurs. Tough D, excellent ball movement, clutch shooting from different players, depth...They find a lot of different ways to win. I'm looking forward to a rematch with you guys.
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Here's a play by Curry I loved. First he steals it. Then behind the back dribble to the same hand, one bounce and then a behind the back pass to Thompson for a three!

totally unnecessary behind the back pass but thats why its such a beautiful one. It just shows how much they enjoy playing together and love the game. I normally don't get into Bball till after the all star break but will definitely be watching more of their games.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, my Warriors are playing pretty damn well right now. Their defense is continuing where it left off last season, ranked #1 for opponent's field goal %. Their offense is improving almost every game and their new players are really contributing. Plus, it's hard to say who on the team has improved the most since last season: Curry, Thompson, Barnes, Bogut, Speights or Green. They have had an easy schedule the last two weeks, so we'll see how long they can keep the best record in the league.

Last night's game against the Pelicans was a fun one to watch. Anthony Davis is as good as everyone is saying. He plays like a small guy in a large body and that makes sense because just 4 years ago he was a 6'2" point guard!

Here's a play by Curry I loved. First he steals it. Then behind the back dribble to the same hand, one bounce and then a behind the back pass to Thompson for a three!

The Warriors are the biggest surprise IMO. I knew they would be good, just not this good. I'm starting to think they can win 70+ games

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

The Warriors are the biggest surprise IMO. I knew they would be good, just not this good. I'm starting to think they can win 70+ games

We'll see Alex. The schedule will be getting tougher the next few weeks and I expect them to have some downturns like every team does, but what gives them a good chance in every game is their consistently tough defense. Bogut is the key on defense and he unfortunately has a history of getting injured.

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9 years ago

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We'll see Alex. The schedule will be getting tougher the next few weeks and I expect them to have some downturns like every team does, but what gives them a good chance in every game is their consistently tough defense. Bogut is the key on defense and he unfortunately has a history of getting injured.

It's good to see teams that weren't so competitive in the past, at the top. A lot of teams have improved. I never thought I'd see the day, the raptors would be in first place.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Yeah, the Raptors are for real I think. They will be near the top all year. The Wizards are good also. Atlanta is hot. I hear Cleveland has improved!

I think my second favorite team now are the Mavs, because I always liked Dirk and they have two ex Warriors who I have been following since they left the Warriors: Monta Ellis and Brandon Wright.
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9 years ago

Boston Celtics are my team for many many years as far back as i can remember green has been in my blood....Go Boston.

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9 years ago

I think I may have some sadistic tendencies...I'm really enjoying watching Melo and The Zen Master implode.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

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I think I may have some sadistic tendencies...I'm really enjoying watching Melo and The Zen Master implode.

I am also. It was fun watching Barkley at the game last night. He hates on the Knicks whenever possible lately. So during the game Phil tweets:

"do I have to mute this game? Chuck just remember your fundamental...key to triangle"

Charles is told what Phil tweeted during the game and says:

"I can respect Phil Jackson ... But he's too old to be tweeting... He takes it personal when people talk about the triangle. ... You need players, the league has always been about players, and always will be."

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I am also. It was fun watching Barkley at the game last night. He hates on the Knicks whenever possible lately. So during the game Phil tweets:

"do I have to mute this game? Chuck just remember your fundamental...key to triangle"

Charles is told what Phil tweeted during the game and says:

"I can respect Phil Jackson ... But he's too old to be tweeting... He takes it personal when people talk about the triangle. ... You need players, the league has always been about players, and always will be."

I think it should be called the Bermuda Triangle since it's been a total disaster..

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Hey, a big trade yesterday, Kurt. Rondo going to Dallas. I think that is going to make Dallas a lot better. Jameer Nelson just wasn't the guy they were hoping for. Rondo and Ellis is a great back court duo!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Hey, a big trade yesterday, Kurt. Rondo going to Dallas. I think that is going to make Dallas a lot better. Jameer Nelson just wasn't the guy they were hoping for. Rondo and Ellis is a great back court duo!

This will tip the balance of power even more to the Western Conference.

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discrat 9 years ago

Damn Spurs lose 2 in a Row with two triple OTs.

Lillard may just be the best Guard in NBA. The guy is unstoppable... 43 pts.
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Greg, Greg, Greg...

Did he call the wrong agency (which was being monitored) like James Worthy?

CBS Basketball Analyst Greg Anthony Arrested, Charged With Soliciting Prostitute

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Discovered via TV news, he was busted in a sting operation by answering an add in Backpage and then going to a room in a downtown D.C. hotel where he was arrested.

Allegedly he was wearing a hoodi as he walked through the hotel lobby and the hotel was a DoubleTree.

Note: The hotel is very close to where Marion Barry was busted.

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9 years ago

Warriors #1 team this year

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

I love Bill Walton.

Bill Walton Sings National Anthem \| Rockets vs...

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I love Bill Walton.

Bill Walton Sings National Anthem | Rockets vs Warriors | January 21, 2015 | NBA 2014-15 Season - YouTube

My fav Bill Walton quote...

"Since when is a elbow to the face a foul?"

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9 years ago

Klay Thompson, 13 for 13, 9 for 9 on threes, 37 total in one quarter! Amazing!

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9 years ago

Yeah! Thats was incredible! We could say it was his night.. He had a shot that bounced off the rim and still went in.. Lost a fantasy matchup by 2 points though..

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

The all star break is too long now. A full week?

Just read Jerome Kersey died at only 52. He was a terrific player.

Goran Dragic has asked to be traded because he doesn't trust the Suns management. I was wondering why they traded for Isaiah Thomas and apparently Dragic didn't get that move either. Three starting caliber point guards on the same team??

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The all star break is too long now. A full week?

Just read Jerome Kersey died at only 52. He was a terrific player.

Goran Dragic has asked to be traded because he doesn't trust the Suns management. I was wondering why they traded for Isaiah Thomas and apparently Dragic didn't get that move either. Three starting caliber point guards on the same team??

Read a few days ago Anthony Mason had a massive heart attack. He was alive at that time, haven't heard any updates.

BTW Tim...you picked a bad year for your Warriors to be doing well. The rest of our teams are so bad, most of us have lost interest in the season.

The only good news for my Nuggets is we have 3 picks in the draft and Nurkic looks like he can become a real player, see my comments about him in the preseason above. Right now, he looks like he's the only Nugget NOT on the trading block.

Instead of trading the entire team, I think I'd fire "The Shaw of Denver" instead. It was only a year and a half ago this team had 57 wins under George Karl. Not sure why management feels it's the players that are the problem.

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Read a few days ago Anthony Mason had a massive heart attack. He was alive at that time, haven't heard any updates.

Yeah, he was in really bad shape and underwent 4 surgeries back on the 9th or the 10th. I'm a lifelong Knick (insert joke here) fan and was sad to hear the news that Mase was fighting for his life. His high energy, high impact game was fun to watch and appreciated even when he was playing point forward.

His son Anthony Jr. released a statement on Saturday the 14th that stated he was holding his own. He said he is in stable condition and continues to receive expert medical care as he recovers from his medical procedures.

His other son Antoine (6' 1") balls for Auburn... He is averaging 14.9 pts in 29 minutes and he can bang the 3.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Instead of trading the entire team, I think I'd fire "The Shaw of Denver" instead. It was only a year and a half ago this team had 57 wins under George Karl. Not sure why management feels it's the players that are the problem.

The Shaw of Denver. Lol

How much you want to bet Karl has Sacramento turned around by the end of the season?

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The Shaw of Denver. Lol

How much you want to bet Karl has Sacramento turned around by the end of the season?

In a way, Sacramento was kind of dumb for hiring Karl now. They should have waited until after the season so they'd have a better chance in the lottery.

But I have little doubt they'll start winning under Karl sooner rather than later.
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9 years ago

I love NBA.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

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I got nothing.

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

uihiohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h

I got nothing.

Lol.

I am waiting for a group of Lakers fans to make an offer to me to take my 20 year curse off of the Lakers. Until then, it's going to be tough on you guys.
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9 years ago

It pains me to say this, but the Lakers could make a pretty quick turnaround next year.

They pay Dragic big bucks in the off season, who has hinted he wants to play in a big market. Kevin Love gets tired of playing with Lebron and goes home to LA. They get Randle back. Then they get a good pick in the draft. And Kobe comes back and plays in 20-25 games before he gets hurt.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

It pains me to say this, but the Lakers could make a pretty quick turnaround next year.

They pay Dragic big bucks in the off season, who has hinted he wants to play in a big market. Kevin Love gets tired of playing with Lebron and goes home to LA. They get Randle back. Then they get a good pick in the draft. And Kobe comes back and plays in 20-25 games before he gets hurt.

A lot of ifs there, except for that last one.

I just don't think the Lakers have the brain power to turn it around anytime soon. Plus, who wants to play with Kobe? That's a real problem.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

A lot of ifs there, except for that last one.

I just don't think the Lakers have the brain power to turn it around anytime soon. Plus, who wants to play with Kobe? That's a real problem.

Yep, there's a few "ifs". But they will get Randle back and will likely have a high draft pick.

And "if" Dragic wants to play in a big market, we need to rule out Chicago because of Rose. And who would want to play for the Knicks or Nets?

And it isn't that much of a longshot that Kevin Love would like to play in LA.

While getting both Love and Dragic is a longshot, those are far from their only options and getting just one of them would be a big help.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Kurt, don't give Laker fans any hope. That will ruin the launch of my new site endtimslakercurse.com. It should be a huge money maker after a couple more bad years for the Lakers.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Kurt, don't give Laker fans any hope. That will ruin the launch of my new site endtimslakercurse.com. It should be a huge money maker after a couple more bad years for the Lakers.

I think it's about time we pulled TL's Laker fan card anyway. Unlike you and I that root for the home team, TL jumped on the Laker bandwagon. He's from Baltimore. I'll give him the Indy Colts, since they used to be in Baltimore. But from now on, he has to be a Baltimore Claws fan for basketball.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I think it's about time we pulled TL's Laker fan card anyway. Unlike you and I that root for the home team, TL jumped on the Laker bandwagon. He's from Baltimore. I'll give him the Indy Colts, since they used to be in Baltimore. But from now on, he has to be a Baltimore Claws fan for basketball.

Actually I'm from Jersey!

I fell in love with the Lakers after falling in love with Mr. Clutch way back in circa 1970.

For some reason I got on the Baltimore Orioles bandwagon about the same time but hopped on the Colts bandwagon back circa 1966 with Johnny Unitas leading the way.

After I relocated to Maryland..

I was among those that booed Elway mercilessly when he came to visit Baltimore for a pre-season game during his rookie season after rejecting the city of Baltimore.

BTW...

You can have my Laker card the in same way Charlton Heston would let you have his rifle. I believe in "free agency for fans" also.

All The Best!!

TL

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discrat 9 years ago

Big game tonight. I don't think Spurs will remotely duplicate what they did against Warriors their last meeting..

The Spurs just look tired. They seem to be getting old. There is newer blood that right now are playing much better.

And Warriors are one of those Teams.

I am hopeful but will be really surprised if Spurs can stay with them for any length of time tonight.
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  The Warriors weren't playing that great before the all star break, Robert. Plus, they have not played the Spurs well at home in many years. So, I'm not as sure they will win tonight.
  
  They really need to play their best tonight to beat the Spurs. If they want to be Champs, I think they need to start beating the Spurs, and convincingly. Big test tonight.
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Actually I'm from Jersey!

I fell in love with the Lakers after falling in love with Mr. Clutch way back in circa 1970.

For some reason I got on the Baltimore Orioles bandwagon about the same time but hopped on the Colts bandwagon back circa 1966 with Johnny Unitas leading the way.

After I relocated to Maryland..

I was among those that booed Elway mercilessly when he came to visit Baltimore for a pre-season game during his rookie season after rejecting the city of Baltimore.

BTW...

You can have my Laker card the in same way Charlton Heston would let you have his rifle. I believe in "free agency for fans" also.

All The Best!!

TL

OK, we'll compromise. You can root for the Washington Wizards since they used to be the Baltimore Bullets.

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TheWriteOne

9 years ago

Crazy trade deadline. Suns revamped almost their entire line up. What the hell is Philly doing? giving away their best 2 players for draft picks?

The Warriors would have a tough 1st round if the playoffs started with the top 8 now. They would have the Thunder. Westbrook is playing out of his mind. Plus they got Kanter before the trade deadline. Durant and Adams will also be back.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Unfortunately Anthony Mason died. It seemed he was recovering but ... He was a hell of a player. I didn't like the Knicks back then but always appreciated his talent. He wasn't just a brute.

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/anthony-ma...155941769.html

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Unfortunately Anthony Mason died. It seemed he was recovering but ... He was a hell of a player. I didn't like the Knicks back then but always appreciated his talent. He wasn't just a brute.

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/anthony-ma...155941769.html

In related news, Earl Lloyd the first black player in the NBA passed away yesterday.

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Unfortunately Anthony Mason died. It seemed he was recovering but ... He was a hell of a player. I didn't like the Knicks back then but always appreciated his talent. He wasn't just a brute.

Yeah, sad news... He was one of my all-time favorite Knicks that played after the Clyde Frazier era.

RIP, Anthony.

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Yeah, sad news... He was one of my all-time favorite Knicks that played after the Clyde Frazier era.

RIP, Anthony.

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Yeah RIP Anthony. He was a brute.
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  maybe this is inappropriate and you guys can crucify me if you want.
  
  But I remember back in January 1994 ( in my wild days) I had a one night fling with Anthony Masons sister in Nashville.Her name was real distinct. Very exotic when I heard it come out of her mouth. But for some reason I cannot remember it for the life of me.
  
  I met her at a bar near Murfressboro. It was his half sister. I remember talking to her that night and she talked about Anthony buying her a car the last previous month.
  
  Funny, the next morning I remember her telling me that she was going to the Super Bowl and wanted me to come with her.
  
  I said maybe. But I never heard from her again. Oh well.
  
  But the way she talked about him he really seemed like a good guy.
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

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Kurt

9 years ago

The Nuggets are the only team that hasn't won a game since the All Star break.

Hopefully next year will be the Shaw Stank Redemption.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

The Nuggets are the only team that hasn't won a game since the All Star break.

Hopefully next year will be the Shaw Stank Redemption.

Why did they trade Timofey Mozgov? I thought that guy had a lot of potential and now he's playing well with the Cavs.

By the way, the Mavs have played bad since getting Rondo. He hasn't improved them like many thought he would, including myself.

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TheWriteOne 9 years ago

Rondo is a bad fit for the Mavs. With his recent altercation with Carlisle, I don't see him playing for the Mavs next season. Reggie Jackson is also not doing so well.

Isiah Thomas is doing a good job in Boston.
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  Well, Kurt, looks like you got your wish. Denver has reportedly fired Brian Shaw.
  
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  Well, Kurt, looks like you got your wish. Denver has reportedly fired Brian Shaw.
  
  Even though Shaw can't coach and is another failed coach from the Phil Tree, I actually don't like the timing. I would have let him coach out the season. At this point in the season, you may as well tank the rest of the way and hope to get lucky in the lottery. And I don't see much of a reason to bring in a new guy just to lose games, although I really like Melvin Hunt, who is the interim coach.
  
  Hunt was the only left-over from Karl and I wanted Hunt to replace Karl. Hunt has a great ability to relate to players no matter where they are from. Coincidently, it was Hunt that took Mozgov under his wing and helped Timo cope with being a Russian in America. Melvin Hunt is a class guy.
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Why did they trade Timofey Mozgov? I thought that guy had a lot of potential and now he's playing well with the Cavs.

By the way, the Mavs have played bad since getting Rondo. He hasn't improved them like many thought he would, including myself.

Mozgov is a good player and a great fit for what the Cavs needed. The Nuggets like Kurkic and wanted to give him more playing time. Not to mention, that was about the time it seemed like management wanted to start "tanking". Also, they did get two #1 picks for Mozgov, so it was a pretty good deal for both teams IMO.

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9 years ago

The NBA season is coming to a close, figured I'd visit this thread again. It's sure looking like we could have a Warriors vs Cavs finals

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9 years ago

It's been an interesting and entertaining year for sure and not just because of my Warriors playing terrifically. There's a lot of good story lines. Plus, there's been some super funny shit going on in games. One of my favorite Shaqtin a Fool:

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9 years ago

It was mentioned tonight on ESPN that the warriors will be the first team since the 82 Sixer's team to lead the league in field goal percentage offensively and defensively. This made me look back at that 82 Sixer's team. What a team! 65 and 17 in the regular season and 12 and 1 in the playoffs! They dominated the playoffs. Moses Malone, Doctor J, Bobby Jones, Andrew Toney... Oh, and the three teams they beat in the playoffs were the Lakers ( who I believe won it all the prior year ), Milwaukee ( an excellent team back then ), and and a very decent knick team featuring Bernard King, Bill Cartwright, Paul westfal, Marvin Webster, truck Robinson...

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

It was mentioned tonight on ESPN that the warriors will be the first team since the 82 Sixer's team to lead the league in field goal percentage offensively and defensively. This made me look back at that 82 Sixer's team. What a team! 65 and 13 in the regular season and 12 and 1 in the playoffs! They dominated the playoffs. Moses Malone, Doctor J, Bobby Jones, Andrew Toney... Oh, and the three teams they beat in the playoffs were the Lakers ( who I believe won it all the prior year ), Milwaukee ( an excellent team back then ), and and a very decent knick team featuring Bernard King, Bill Cartwright, Paul westfal, Marvin Webster, truck Robinson...

Yea, those Sixers were very good. Don't forget about Mo Cheeks, Caldwell Jones, Clint Richardson and the Mixer - Steve Mix.

I loved their passionate coach Billy Cunningham and how you could hear him constantly shouting instructions to his team - especially when they were on defense.

"Get off him Andrew!!!"

At times he would slowly become a part of the defense by positioning himself somewhere on the sidelines - with his arms up. By the end of the game his tie would often almost be turned backwards around his neck.

His big kiss on the Doctor was classic.

Good luck in the playoffs Tim.

I'm rooting for a fellow divisional ballclub to go all the way.

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9 years ago

I've been holding back posting about the Warriors here for a few reasons including not wanting to sound like a jerk, but I am convinced this team is a top ten all time team. We'll see what happens in the playoffs but the only teams I see having a shot of beating them this year are the spurs and Cleveland.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I've been holding back posting about the Warriors here for a few reasons including not wanting to sound like a jerk, but I am convinced this team is a top ten all time team. We'll see what happens in the playoffs but the only teams I see having a shot of beating them this year are the spurs and Cleveland.

Tim what are you drinking tonight ? lol

Whatever you are having can I have some too

Warriors 2015 NBA Champions ?? Good possibility.

But to be considered a All time Top 10 team you actually have to prove yourself in the Playoffs.

The Warriors have yet to do this.

No doubt they are the best team this year but to say that they are the Top 10 off all time is a ridicolous notion as of RIGHT NOW.

Good Lord, they haven't even won an NBA championship. They very well could. They are damn good.

But I think you need to take a cold shower in the morning and once you sober up you can come back here and edit what you just posted LOL...
As I hope this Post does not come back and haunt you.

Take care of this year and then maybe we can begin discussion about being an all time great

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9 years ago

This team is dominating. They are young. Good luck to everyone else. Your Spurs could beat them but I don't see it. I stand by what I said. This group, this team will be one of the top ten teams all time. I'm not saying from this year alone. They will only get better though!

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Tim what are you drinking tonight ? lol

Whatever you are having can I have some too

Warriors 2015 NBA Champions ?? Good possibility.

But to be considered a All time Top 10 team you actually have to prove yourself in the Playoffs.

The Warriors have yet to do this.

No doubt they are the best team this year but to say that they are the Top 10 off all time is a ridicolous notion as of RIGHT NOW.

I think you need to take a cold shower in the morning and once you sober up you can come back here and edit what you just posted LOL

And don't be surprised if this Post comes back and haunts you.

Take care of this year and then maybe we can talk

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I've been holding back posting about the Warriors here for a few reasons including not wanting to sound like a jerk,.

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

This team is dominating. They are young. Good luck to everyone else. Your Spurs could beat them but I don't see it. I stand by what I said. This group, this team will be one of the top ten teams all time.

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Tim, you have just made the 2015 NBA playoffs about 1,000 percent more exciting this year

Its all good though.

Seriously, may the best team win and it just might be the Warriors

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Tim, you have just made the 2015 NBA playoffs about 1,000 percent more exciting this year

Its all good though.

Seriously, may the best team win and it just might be the Warriors

Well, it could be the Spurs. Seriously though, I've watched every minute of every game of this team's season. At the start of the season I didn't feel this way. I kind of expected them to lose tough road games or the second game of a back to back at home. But they kept winning and improving. I just always think they are going to win now, and win big.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Tim what are you drinking tonight ? lol

Whatever you are having can I have some too

Warriors 2015 NBA Champions ?? Good possibility.

But to be considered a All time Top 10 team you actually have to prove yourself in the Playoffs.

The Warriors have yet to do this.

No doubt they are the best team this year but to say that they are the Top 10 off all time is a ridicolous notion as of RIGHT NOW.

Good Lord, they haven't even won an NBA championship.

I think you need to take a cold shower in the morning and once you sober up you can come back here and edit what you just posted LOL

And don't be surprised if this Post comes back and haunts you.

Take care of this year and then maybe we can begin discussion about being an all time great

I agree...To even be considered, a team needs to have at least one championship.

Come on Tim, stop bogarting...

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Originally Posted by Kurt

I agree...To even be considered, a team needs to have at least one championship.

Yes. I'm predicting. I'm not a bandwanger. I'm saying this team will be considered a top ten team ten years from now.
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  Steph Curry put a move on Chris Paul last night that Isiah Thomas called embarassing at half time. He didn't just break his ankles, he made him break dance.
  
  Steph Curry Gives CP3 the Slip with Wicked Cross...
  
  People are already have fun with this one:
  
  Oh, and the Warriors won in LA with what seemed like more Warrior fans than Clipper fans cheering. The Clippers sure think so: "Home-court advantage is just not there for us. If that's how it feels in the playoffs, it's not looking good." LOL.
  
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  Spurs manhandled Warriors last night. It was not even even close as they never led
  
  And they won the season series
  
  I know Warriors are not going all out full force since they already got home court advantage throughout the playoffs. So this game doesn't really indicate anything.
  
  I don't think their head or heart was in it after celebrating Kerr's record the night before.( Although Curry was good as usual scoring 13 points in 4 minutes to open second half)
  
  But still a nice win.
  
  I think the Playoffs are going to be entertaining.
  
  I saw Isiah Thomas on TNT about 2 weeks ago was saying that if Warriors do not win NBA Championship it will be a huge disappointment for the Franchise.
  
  So there is some definite pressure there.
  
  But I have to admit for the most part they seem to be going into the playoffs on all 4 cylinders which should make other teams nervous. And its going to be hard for any team to win in Oakland.
  Spurs included.
  
  Anyway, Leonard look unstoppable.
  I hope their not dumb enough to lose him to Free Agency in the future.
  
  He is the Franchise player and the future of Spurs
  
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  Yes, another good win over the warriors by the champs. Whoever plays them in the first round is going to have a hard time beating them, home court or not. I just don't see Houston, the clippers or Memphis being able to win a series against the Spurs this year. They are jelling again at the right time.
  
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9 years ago

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9 years ago

Been awhile since my warriors have been at the top. I can't wait for playoffs!

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9 years ago

Hot Rod Hundley passed away today...RIP.

Also, things don't look good for Kevin Durant, had an operation for a bone graph. I hope he'll be OK.

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9 years ago

NBA Player Gets Away With A Ridiculous 9-Step Travel!

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Kendrick Perkins Goes On A Nice, Long Walk

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discrat 9 years ago

Spurs great win last night but I am disappointed in Pops and the way the Spurs kept intentionally fouling Josh Smith ( 3rd and 4th quarters) who is lousy free throw shooter

I love Pops but am disappointed why he does this. It is NOT basketball, imo. It was so incessant and disruptive and it is a turnoff for fans and family who pay MAJOR bucks for a seat in an NBA arena to see a competitive game

Really embarrassing and poor sportsmanship.

Oh well.

Anyway, one week and the madness begins
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

- Your Spurs were seriously on the verge of going down 2 zip until Blake Griffin loses the ball trying to be cute when he didn't have to do anything except sit on the ball for like 13 seconds and wait to get fouled.

Now your Spurs have new life at repeating.

And...

- Tim's Warriors survive a close one to go up 3-0 on a young New Orleans...

Stephen Curry Just Hit The Most Epic Shot Of His Career

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

- Your Spurs were seriously on the verge of going down 2 zip until Blake Griffin loses the ball trying to be cute when he didn't have to do anything except sit on the ball for like 13 seconds and wait to get fouled.

Now your Spurs have new life at repeating.

And...

- Tim's Warriors survive a close one to go up 3-0 on a young New Orleans...

Stephen Curry Just Hit The Most Epic Shot Of His Career

Yeah Spurs were fortunate. Shot clock was winding down so they would have had to shoot and there still would have been 6 or 7 seconds left. Maybe they would have made it maybe not.

Curry's unreal. As Bobby Jones once said about Jack Nicklaus, " He plays a game I am not familiar with "

Probably the best shooter of the basketball I have ever seen.

Better than Bird, Allen, Miller. All of them. Hands down.

The only shooter I have seen to throw up with no shot and make them with uncanny accuracy like Curry is 89' and 90' LSU tigers with Chris Jackson. Shaq can tell you about that. Also Kurt may have heard of him by another name with Nuggets, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.

The best college player I have ever seen.

But even he is still not in league of Curry

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah Spurs were fortunate. Shot clock was winding down so they would have had to shoot and there still would have been 6 or 7 seconds left. Maybe they would have made it maybe not.

Curry's unreal. As Bobby Jones once said about Jack Nicklaus, " He plays a game I am not familiar with "

Probably the best shooter of the basketball I have ever seen.

Better than Bird, Allen, Miller. All of them. Hands down.

The only shooter I have seen to throw up with no shot and make them with uncanny accuracy like Curry is 89' and 90' LSU tigers with Chris Jackson. Shaq can tell you about that. Also Kurt may have heard of him by another name with Nuggets, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.

The best college player I have ever seen.

But even he is still not in league of Curry

I remember his coach Dale Brown telling him to "take over baby" during a college game.

I don't remember much of what Abdul-Rauf did on the court in the NBA but I do remember him not wanting to stand and/or salute the American flag.

IMHO, he was a very misguided young man who threw away a great career and lots of money.

As for the Curry being the best long range shooter of allll time...

I'd have to see his actual shooting stats over time and during crunch time compare.

He may seem to you like the best shooter of all time to you but is he really? Do the stats agree?

I still have a table top NBA simulation game (from the 1980s) named Status Pro Basketball from a game company named Avalon Hill that took actual yearly player stats and rated each NBA player in like 9 -11 categories and put that info on a 1 inch wide by 3 inch long card.

Via game play, the players over time and the teams performed mostly as they did during the particular regular season.

I was a great game with lots of coaching decisions, but of course with most tabletop games of the past - there was luck involved.

BTW, your Spurs "D'd up" the Clippers last night.

Congrats, I see the Spurs moving on and will go back to LA up 3-1.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

- Tim's Warriors survive a close one to go up 3-0 on a young New Orleans...

The Pelicans played the Warriors really tough the first 2 3/4 games. Davis is a fantastic player. A couple more pieces and some experience and they could go very far in the playoffs.

I'm glad to see the Clippers and spurs series tied and going to at least 6 games.

That Cavs Celtics game was ugly.

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9 years ago

Spurs win a nail biter
Their bench is tough.

Griffin looks like the premiere Power Forward in the league, no doubt !

its quite a shame to see one of these Teams having to leave after the first round.

Something needs to be fixed so this doesn't happen again.

P.S. hadn't heard from Dennis about his Bucks. What a win the last night. Can't believe they won at Chicago

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Spurs win a nail biter
Their bench is tough.

Griffin looks like the premiere Power Forward in the league, no doubt !

its quite a shame to see one of these Teams having to leave after the first round.

Something needs to be fixed so this doesn't happen again.

P.S. hadn't heard from Dennis about his Bucks. What a win the last night. Can't believe they won at Chicago

The playoff matchups are designed based on regular season records.

Why does something need to be fixed?

I was wrong about the Spurs going up 3-1 but I think they'll win the next game in San Antone and move on while the Clippers go fishing.

Your repeat dreams stay alive - yuck!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

The playoff matchups are designed based on regular season records.

Why does something need to be fixed?

I was wrong about the Spurs going up 3-1 but I think they'll win the next game in San Antone and move on while the Clippers go fishing.

Your repeat dreams stay alive - yuck!

Yeah I know its records and all but these two teams are right there at the top of the heap with Warriors. Imo, they shouldn't be out first round. And many others agree

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah I know its records and all but these two teams are right there at the top of the heap with Warriors. Imo, they shouldn't be out first round. And many others agree

If you don't win your first round matchup IMHO - you should be gone.

Is this a 4-5 matchup? I couldn't find the info on nba.com - I just looked at the standings and this is a 3-6 matchup even though LA won just one more game than your guys.

I think it used to be that the top 2 divisional winner from each conference would get the top two seeds in the conference playoffs and everyone else would be lined up by regular season records. 1 would play 8, 2 plays 6 and so on.

It looks like that's what the NBA is doing.

I forgot the NBA has 6 divisions.

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_re...=iref:nba:gnav

BTW, I'd love to know what others are proposing in place of the present day NBA playoff system.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Griffin looks like the premiere Power Forward in the league, no doubt !

Davis is better already. Heck, your own Duncan is still better.

I started out rooting for the Clippers to beat your Spurs but I really can't stand that team. So I'm hoping you guys beat the Clippers and then face Houston. Looks like we got Memphis next.

By the way, the Clippers have a weak bench and don't play good team defense. Yes, they beat the Warriors last year but I'm pretty sure we would sweep them this year, one of the reasons I was rooting for them at first.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Davis is better already. Heck, your own Duncan is still better.

I started out rooting for the Clippers to beat your Spurs but I really can't stand that team. So I'm hoping you guys beat the Clippers and then face Houston. Looks like we got Memphis next.

I don't know Tim. Dunk is still great but old. Griffin when he gets going he is unstoppable. I know Davis is great too.

Plus, Griffin has a wicked mid range jumper. Just wicked for a big man. He has a deft touch !!

But yeah Davis will be one of the all time greats when it is all said and done

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9 years ago

Spurs couldn't close it out. Clippers came out with determination and were relentless. Leonard looked really weak and Parker is just way off the mark.

Game 7 should be a good one.

If Parker had been playing like the last few years ,we wouldn't be going to 7. Im totally convinced of that
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But thats basketball.

And credit to Clippers for having the fortitude to regain composure after Tuesday home loss to come back and do this. Really impressive

Reddick is a mini-Curry

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Spurs couldn't close it out. Clippers came out with determination and were relentless. Leonard looked really weak and Parker is just way off the mark.

Game 7 should be a good one.

If Parker had been playing like the last few years ,we wouldn't be going to 7. Im totally convinced of that
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But thats basketball.

And credit to Clippers for having the fortitude to regain composure after Tuesday home loss to come back and do this. Really impressive

Reddick is a min-Curry

I was totally wrong about this series and didn't expect it to go 7 but it will - in Clipperland.

I guess I'm now picking the Clippers to win. LOL!

Yea JJ is slowing morphing into close to the player he was in college and that should concern defenses for years to come.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Game 7 just getting started. I'm picking the spurs because they are the Champs, play better defense and beat the mavs in a game 7 last year in a similar series. I think Houston is playing better than these two teams though. Should be the Dubs vs Rockets in the con finals.

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9 years ago

My Spurs are sent home fishing tonight. Hell of a series. Probably the best first rounder in NBA history.
Dunk was magnificent

Griffin and Paul were as well.

Paul is a superstar and showed it when he was injured and still did what he did.

Looks like I will be rooting for the Team I grew up with as a boy. ATL Hawks.

I started watching Lou Hudson, John Drew, and Tree Rollins way back in the 70s. And my family would travel from Knoxville to Atlanta and watch them play at the Omni.

Doc Rivers and Dominique had one hell of a team in the mid 80s. They came so close against the Celtics to making it to the Finals

Anyway, I think Clippers will have a tough time with Rockets.

I dont care much for Harden and Dwight so I may root for Clippers.

Hawks and Warriors tomorrow.

Its hard to take my Spurs hat off but honestly I am excited to see my old team play the Wizards.

Bottom line: As usual I want anyone but Lebron to win it this year

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

My Spurs are sent home fishing tonight. Hell of a series. Probably the best first rounder in NBA history.
Dunk was magnificent

Griffin and Paul were as well.

Paul is a superstar and showed it when he was injured and still did what he did.

Looks like I will be rooting for the Team I grew up with as a boy. ATL Hawks.

I started watching Lou Hudson, John Drew, and Tree Rollins way back in the 70s. And my family would travel from Knoxville to Atlanta and watch them play at the Omni.

Doc Rivers and Dominique had one hell of a team in the mid 80s. They came so close against the Celtics to making it to the Finals

Anyway, I think Clippers will have a tough time with Rockets.

I dont care much for Harden and Dwight so I may root for Clippers.

Hawks and Warriors tomorrow.

Its hard to take my Spurs hat off but honestly I am excited to see my old team play the Wizards.

Bottom line: As usual I want anyone but Lebron to win it this year

Feel the same about Lebron. That Atlanta - Wash series should be a great one. All 4 should be interesting at least, and perhaps a couple great series. Dubs hopefully will dispose of the Grizzlies quickly. Not having Mike Conley healthy is going to really hurt Memphis.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Feel the same about Lebron. That Atlanta - Wash series should be a great one. All 4 should be interesting at least, and perhaps a couple great series. Dubs hopefully will dispose of the Grizzlies quickly. Not having Mike Conley healthy is going to really hurt Memphis.

Yep, Conley was their only chance. He is a great player and it seems like every year now.
Too bad, it might have been a decent series

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Speaking of healthy, the Bulls - Cavs series can be a great one. With Love out its going to be tough for the Cavs against a healthy Bulls team.
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9 years ago

Of course I remember Mahmoud...I watched him at LSU before he became a Nugget and was the best player on his LSU team that included Shaq. I agree that Curry and Mahmoud are very similar in style, although Curry is the better player.

As to the best pure shooter ever, I'll take Rick Mount. This is just for shooing jumpers, not getting yourself open, shooting off the dribble, etc.

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9 years ago

Who cares about meaningless things like playoffs? Playoffs! Playoffs?!? You're talking about Playoffs!?!!?

I want to know...when's the draft lottery?

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9 years ago

Curry to get the mvp sources say. It will be officially announced tomorrow and he'll be presented it beforeTuesday's game! Cool! And we'll deserved. The guy works his butt off to improve every year. He's a good guy also.

Excellent artice about Curry, his dad, his grandpa and a hoop out on the street.
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9 years ago

Wow !! Unreal kickoff of Round 2 . Who would have thought these Home Court losses...
1.Cavs lose to Bulls
2.Hawks lose to Wizards
3. Rockets lose to Clippers
4.Warriors lose to Grizzly

Conley was unreal all things considering and what he has been through ! And Memphis is just tough down low and that could be the Warriors undoing . I think this goes 7 games. And Iam sure Grizzlies will be shooting to have their home crowd push them to end it sooner.

Iam liking the Bulls more and more. I'm rooting for the Hawks but Iam going to go ahead and call this, Bulls are going to win it all this year.
D-Rose is picking up where he left off 4 years ago. He may be the best player in the playoffs this year. Gasol and Noah are a wicked duo down low

Man, it is a breath of fresh air to just relax and watch these games instead of being all stressed out the last few years with my Spurs

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9 years ago

Wow, D- Rose last second 3 pointer to beat Cavs. A little lucky off the backboard.
But 30 pts and good game.

Clippers and Rockets next. I would like to see Rockets win, actually.
Iam not a huge fan of Clippers especially with a poor sport and thug like Barnes.

Some of the things he has done lately really turns me off to Clippers. Going after Harden's Mom.
Gimme a break ,what a loser

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Wow, D- Rose last second 3 pointer to beat Cavs. A little lucky off the backboard.
But 30 pts and good game.

Clippers and Rockets next. I would like to see Rockets win, actually.
Iam not a huge fan of Clippers especially with a poor sport and thug like Barnes.

Some of the things he has done lately really turns me off to Clippers. Going after Harden's Mom.
Gimme a break ,what a loser

I witnessed that shot by Rose at the buzzer.

I'm not surprised by Matt Barnes and I don't care who wins as long as it's not the men in green.

Enjoy!

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Bill Simmons...

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Who cares about meaningless things like playoffs? Playoffs! Playoffs?!? You're talking about Playoffs!?!!?

I want to know...when's the draft lottery?

NBA Draft Lottery on May 19.

The 2015 NBA Draft will be held on June 25 in NYC.
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  That bulls/Cavs game was a hell of a game. Lebron seems to be a step slower than a couple years ago.
  
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9 years ago

Little Rivers...

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Little Rivers...

Would that make Doc "Old Man" Rivers?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Would that make Doc "Old Man" Rivers?

Or one of my favs "old man River walk "

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9 years ago

The last two games for the Warriors have been ugly. The first half of this 3rd game was the worst. Just terrible play. Hard to understand. I think the coaching has reacted slowly but I saw some life in tonight's second half. I think the Warriors will go small earlier and way more. Their defense really stepped up in the second half and a lot of that had to do with strategy.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The last two games for the Warriors have been ugly. The first half of this 3rd game was the worst. Just terrible play. Hard to understand. I think the coaching has reacted slowly but I saw some life in tonight's second half. I think the Warriors will go small earlier and way more. Their defense really stepped up in the second half and a lot of that had to do with strategy.

Tim,
I don't know maybe its me but I think the Warriors will win Game 4. Good gosh ,people are talking like this series is over.

I can't see a team like the Warriors losing 3 in a row. I think they are making adjustments just like you said

So I'm thinking they are going to take it in Game 4. Just a gut feeling I have.

I remember last year in the Spurs championship run they fell to Heat Game 2 at SA. People were talking about how Lebron just seemed to have it in for the Spurs. And that the Series was over because Heat regained home court advantage. Sure enough we made adjustments and ended up dominating Heat in Game 3 at Miami.

So there could be some similarities there.

Anyway, the Hawks lost a heat breaker. Pierce, came up with an amazing last second shot. I got to see the very end at Luby's with my family on a small tv there.

The scary thing is I believe Pierce was going for the bank. I have seen him do it before.

Can't wait to see Noah and Lebron go at it tomorrow. Should be fun

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Yes, Tim's Warriors are in big danger.

If they go down 3-1 to a "playoff experienced team" like Memphis --- it's all over.

And...

Paul Pierce strikes again at the buzzer as the Wizards grab a 2-1 lead over the Hawks - without John Wall.

Houston and Cleveland are also in big danger - down 2-1 with game 4 in enemy territory.

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tine267

9 years ago

Reports says that Pau Gasol is injured, i think this will only benefit the chicago even more, because now they can play nikola mirotic with more minutes and that is actually good for them because the kid can actually be the difference maker in the series.. go bulls

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Lebron at the buzzer ties up the series at 2-2 and now its back the Cleveland. If Gasol stays injured I'm picking the Cavs.

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9 years ago

Yes, Bulls without Gasol will lose this series.

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9 years ago

Warriors turned up the defense and shot better in a big win. Still too many turnovers though.

Game 5 of Bulls/Cavs tonight. Clippers can send Houston fishing tonight.

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9 years ago

I sometimes amaze myself with my prophetic insight, see above

Warriors reminded me of my Spurs from last year

Go Bulls

And Hawks look like they advance without Wall playing

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9 years ago

Monte Williams was fired by New Orleans today. I think he did a pretty good job this year actually. The Pelicans were playing some of the best ball in the league the last few weeks of the year and also played the Warriors pretty tough in the playoffs even though they were swept.

Now, there are two coaching vacancies that are very desirable, NO and OKC. I heard the Bull's Thibodeau mentioned as a possible replacement through a trade of some sort.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Monte Williams was fired by New Orleans today. I think he did a pretty good job this year actually. The Pelicans were playing some of the best ball in the league the last few weeks of the year and also played the Warriors pretty tough in the playoffs even though they were swept.

Now, there are two coaching vacancies that are very desirable, NO and OKC. I heard the Bull's Thibodeau mentioned as a possible replacement through a trade of some sort.

OKC hired Billy Donavan about 2 weeks ago...

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Originally Posted by Kurt

OKC hired Billy Donavan about 2 weeks ago...

Ah yes, you are correctamundo, sir.
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  Spurs will either have Gasol or Aldridge next year. Splitter is gone.
  
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9 years ago

Lebron and Cavs put Bulls out of their misery - blowing them out in Chi-town.

Lebron in East finals for 5th year in a row. I doubt the Hawks or Wizards will stop him from going to the NBA finals - again.

Epic collapse by Clippers keep Kevin Mchale and his Rockets alive for a game 7 in Houston.

I stopped watching when the Clips were up by like 16, returned 15 minutes later to see their lead dwindle to about 5 and returned 10 minutes later and the Rockets were up by like 13.

WOW!

If they don't win this series Ole Man Rivers could be in trouble and may not return.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

If they don't win this series Ole Man Rivers could be in trouble and may not return.

I think he's overrated. His one Championship was with a loaded Celtics team. I wonder if the Clippers would fire him though. Not being a Clippers fan, I would love to see them lose to Houston just so we find out. On the other hand, I want to see a Warriors/Clippers match up in the Conference finals. We gotta get rid of Memphis first though and hopefully do that tonight.

The Bulls crumbled last night. Just terrible offense. I think either the Hawks or the Wizards will be a tougher opponent than the Bulls were.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I think he's overrated. His one Championship was with a loaded Celtics team. I wonder if the Clippers would fire him though. Not being a Clippers fan, I would love to see them lose to Houston just so we find out. On the other hand, I want to see a Warriors/Clippers match up in the Conference finals. We gotta get rid of Memphis first though and hopefully do that tonight.

The Bulls crumbled last night. Just terrible offense. I think either the Hawks or the Wizards will be a tougher opponent than the Bulls were.

Yea, the look on Steve Balmer's face was priceless.

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9 years ago

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Yea, the look on Steve Balmer's face was priceless.

Yeah, he's such a goober. I mean, he's an improvement over the racist slumlord previous owner but the players probably wish he was one of those owners who watched the game from afar. Lol.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yeah, he's such a goober. I mean, he's an improvement over the racist slumlord previous owner but the players probably wish he was one of those owners who watched the game from afar. Lol. Steve Ballmer is a Dancing Machine - YouTube

Yeah he is a bumbling idiot.

To start crying when beating the Spurs in Game 6...

What an embarrassment to the Organization

Typical white man Billionaire antics

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah he is a bumbling idiot.

To start crying when beating the Spurs in Game 6...

What an embarrassment

I hadn't seen that. Good grief!! That is bad.

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9 years ago

Watching the Hawks/Wizard's game and then the Memphis/Warriors game just seems like like two totally different leagues.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Watching the Hawks/Wizard's game and then the Memphis/Warriors game just seems like like two totally different leagues.

What a great shot by Pierce though...That's two amazing shots he made that didn't matter in the end.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

What a great shot by Pierce though...That's two amazing shots he made that didn't matter in the end.

Yep. Pierce still plays at a high level and is clutch. I like that Wiz team. Congrats to the Hawks. They are going to have to step up their game big time to beat the Cavs.

By the way, Steph Curry is playing like a real MVP in the playoffs.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yep. Pierce still plays at a high level and is clutch. I like that Wiz team. Congrats to the Hawks. They are going to have to step up their game big time to beat the Cavs.

By the way, Steph Curry is playing like a real MVP in the playoffs.

Yes, Mr. Curry is playing like an MVP and your Warriors have sent a message after meeting their first real challenge in the playoffs.

I'll say this...

You guys certainly know how to run plays to get your guys good looks at the basket and I'm taken aback by Harrison Barnes and his offensive prowess.

It looks to me like a Golden State vs Cleveland NBA Finals and it should be a good one.

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9 years ago

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Looking forward to game 7 today. Houston is a slight favorite but I'm thinking the Clippers may pull it out. That last game is going to be hard to overcome though. What an epic collapse that was.
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9 years ago

BTW Tim...Any updates on the fantasy league you were thinking about joining?

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9 years ago

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BTW Tim...Any updates on the fantasy league you were thinking about joining?

I didn't end up doing it, Kurt. I've been super busy moving, new job, looking for a new woman etc... maybe next year.

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9 years ago

Got my ticket for game two against the Rockets! Wow. These tickets are going for unreal prices. Should be a fun series.

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9 years ago

Clipper fans must be really down and out. This was a huge collapse of Epic proportion for their Team.

It will hurt for a long time.

Not sure if Rockets and Warriors match up very well.

It will be interesting

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Clipper fans must be really down and out. This was a huge collapse of Epic proportion for their Team.

It will hurt for a long time.

Not sure if Rockets and Warriors match up very well.

It will be interesting

Yes. It will hurt. Buahahahaha!

The Rockets had one of the best players in the league in covering Curry but Beverly is injured still. He really is a terrific defensive point guard and gives Curry problems.

I think the Clippers would have given the warriors a tougher time. Clippers looked very tired today.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Clipper fans must be really down and out. This was a huge collapse of Epic proportion for their Team.

It will hurt for a long time.

Not sure if Rockets and Warriors match up very well.

It will be interesting

I forgot they were up 3-1.

Wow, what an infamous list to belong to and what a glorious list for the Rockets.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Got my ticket for game two against the Rockets! Wow. These tickets are going for unreal prices. Should be a fun series.

Oh yeah.

Tim just curious if you don't mind me asking what did you pay ?

Also, what section will you be at so we can look for you on TV?

If my memory serves me well in your avatar before this one ( not the bicep shot lol ) you resembled a young Donald Sutherland.

Is that accurate

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Oh yeah.

Tim just curious if you don't mind me asking what did you pay ?

Also, what section will you be at so we can look for you on TV?

If my memory serves me well in your avatar before this one ( not the bicep shot

) you resembled a young Donald Sutherland.

Is that accurate

I'll be in the upper section baseline area. Not a great seat but I just wanted to go to experience this series in person. It cost just over $200. There were standing room only tickets going for $300 on the first level.

I went to the Warriors Mavs playoff series the year the mavs won 67, were the #1 seed, the warriors were #8 and the warriors beat them. Anyways, I remember paying about $80 for that one in a better section.

If you want to see me I'll be the one with a copy of Kurts avatar glued to my forehead.

Donald Sutherland? Haven't heard that before but I'll take it. A young one.

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9 years ago

Hang in there TL, tomorrow is the NBA draft lottery. The future of our teams depend on the ping pong balls.

What sucks is, the Nuggets have never won the lottery to where we picked higher than our position. 3 times we've had the worst record in the NBA and didn't get the #1 pick.

I believe we had the worst record the year David Robinson went #1. I'm pretty sure we were also worst when Duncan came out. (You're welcome Discrat for both). And we were tied with Cleveland for worst record when Lebron came out, and we got Carmelo.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

The Dubs overcome a bad start, go small and win game one.

The Lakers get lucky, keep their 1st round pick and move up past the Knicks. The curse is still on though.

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9 years ago

Very surprising as the Warriors look beatable at home. Rockets shut them down most of 2nd quarter. Their interior just dominates Warriors.

If Curry and Thompson are off its not going to be an easy march to the championship for them

That is their Achilles Heel.

I think this has a chance to go to 7. Not sure if Warriors can beat Rockets at Houston like they beat Grizzleys at Memphis.

We will see

Hawks and Cavs tonight. I am keeping my fingers crossed for my old team, ATL.

It would be nice if they too these first two games. We will see

Btw, who are the Dubs ?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Very surprising as the Warriors look beatable at home. Rockets shut them down most of 2nd quarter. Their interior just dominates Warriors.

If Curry and Thompson are off its not going to be an easy march to the championship for them

That is their Achilles Heel.

I think this has a chance to go to 7. Not sure if Warriors can beat Rockets at Houston like they beat Grizzleys at Memphis.

We will see

Hawks and Cavs tonight. I am keeping my fingers crossed for my old team, ATL.

It would be nice if they too these first two games. We will see

Btw, who are the Dubs ?

Bogut hasn't played well in the playoffs, but that's OK because we have played better going small all year. That's what changed the Memphis series around.

Thompson hasn't shot great the past couple of weeks. Yeah, if Curry goes cold it will be tough but our defense will keep us in most games even if both splash Bros are cold. It happened many times during the year. Don't listen to Barkley, Robert. We're more than a jump shooting team.

This series may go to 6 or 7 but I kind of think that first game was Houston's best chance for a win and they could easily get swept.

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9 years ago

Yeah, Barley ( hey, my K on keyboard is not working properly but that is pretty appropriate blunder so I wont change it lol) has been known to talk like he has been on the bottle. He said we had no chance last year to advance because of our age. So go figure

Anyway, saw Curry's daughter at the post game. What a cutie. She is spitting image of him

Hey, wait a second does that mean I think Curry is a cutie

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9 years ago

Anyway, saw Curry's daughter at the post game. What a cutie. She is spitting image of him

Hey, wait a second does that mean I think Curry is a cutie

Yes it does.

The Hawks played bad in the second half. They really should be able to beat Cleveland. I think it's mental as is a lot in basketball.

By the way, ex warrior Bazemore played well. I had my picture taken with him a couple years ago. The guy has talent and it didn't make sense that the Lakers let him go.

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I hate to say it but the Hawks are through with. Cleveland is going to the Finals. More likely face Warriors.

Btw, Curry's mom is a major MILF

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yes it does.

The Hawks played bad in the second half. They really should be able to beat Cleveland. I think it's mental as is a lot in basketball.

By the way, ex warrior Bazemore played well. I had my picture taken with him a couple years ago. The guy has talent and it didn't make sense that the Lakers let him go.

So did ex Nuggets Mozgov and JR Smith.

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9 years ago

PS. Stupid ping pong balls.

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9 years ago

BTW, is there any doubt that Jerry West is the best talent evaluator of all time?

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BTW, is there any doubt that Jerry West is the best talent evaluator of all time?

Let's just say I'm glad the warriors have him.
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  Let's just say I'm glad the warriors have him.
  
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  This I did not know. Congrats I guess.
  
  Yeah, he's been with them a few years and they have made some good decisions since. I think he was a big part in the decision to fire Jackson.
  
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  Mark Jackson must have mixed feelings when calling Warrior games as he did last night.
  
  I think maybe Jackson and Van Gundy are the number one team for ABC/ESPN with Hubie Brown and Mike Tirico backing them up with another team consisting of Reggie Miller, Chris Webber and the one and only Marv Albert.
  
  I wonder who will call the finals?
  
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  That was a good escape by your boys last night. I think they can win one in Houston and the rest will be history.
  
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  Jackson and Van Gundy probably. They did it last year with Mike Breen.
  
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9 years ago

Golden State and Cleveland are on a collision course in the NBA finals as both teams lead 3-0 in their conference finals.

That guy Delevadova (from Australia) for Cleveland must have his sports mixed up.

Diving for the ball, he rolled on Kyle Korver putting him out for the playoffs and last night, he tried to roll on Harford of Atlanta - but Harford seemed to be ready for it.

He is a master at getting other players thrown out as he did with Tosh Gibson of Chicago.

Let the finals can't start soon enough.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Golden State and Cleveland are on a collision course in the NBA finals as both teams lead 3-0 in their conference finals.

That guy Delevadova (from Australia) for Cleveland must have his sports mixed up.

Diving for the ball, he rolled on Kyle Korver putting him out for the playoffs and last night, he tried to roll on Harford of Atlanta - but Harford seemed to be ready for it.

He is a master at getting other players thrown out as he did with Tosh Gibson of Chicago.

Let the finals can't start soon enough.

If the Cavs and Warriors both sweep it will be the first time that has happened in conference finals since 1957. It also will mean the finals would start 8 days after the Cavs seeep. That worries me a bit because the Warriors are on more of a roll than the Cavs. The NBA is thinking of moving up the series a couple days if this happens.

Delevadova better watch it or he'll get a bad rap. You can't just roll into players legs like that. They don't even allow that in the NFL.

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9 years ago

Curry's fall reminded me of David Thompson's in the 73 (or was it 74) NCAA tournament...although for a split second I wondered if Thompson was still alive.

And speaking of David Thompson...Did you know W's assistant coach Alvin Gentry is David Thompson's cousin?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Curry's fall reminded me of David Thompson's in the 73 (or was it 74) NCAA tournament...although for a split second I wondered if Thompson was still alive.

And speaking of David Thompson...Did you know W's assistant coach Alvin Gentry is David Thompson's cousin?

I remember that fall. What a great player Thompson was and I didn't realize he is related to Gentry.

By the way, one of my first thoughts in watching Curry's fall is why was he trying to block Ariza's shot anyways? I see a lot of injuries happen when athletes try doing something that is not their normal game.

Well, looks like that scenario I mentioned earlier is moot now. Great shooting by Houston. They are a very resilient team. Warriors better play their A game in game 5.

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9 years ago

Harden lights it up as Houston escapes being swept and tonight Atlanta seeks to do the same tonight.

Since the ATL will be away from home I doubt it but stranger things have happened.

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9 years ago

Curry deserved MVP but Harden is right behind him. That is is a one man wrecking machine.

Hard to believe he, KD, and Westwood were on the same team at one time . And no championship

It would be incredible if Rockets could pull out this next game.

If they did then we re going 7

P.S. Kerr should have chalked this up a loss and kept Curry out rest of game

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9 years ago

Hawks never really challenged the Cavs who didn't have two of their big three. For a 60 win team this was a big dud. The Hawks never regained that level they were at when they had that long win streak during the regular season. In the playoffs they were not dominant in any series, and that was in the east.

It's a great story for Cleveland and I'm happy for their fans. For Lebron's legacy? We’ll see. He's already just 2 and 3 in finals, and close to being 1 and 4 by a couple inches, seconds and a Ray Allen three.

The question I have regarding Lebron is how many times would his team have reached the finals if his team was in the west. Would they have beaten the Clippers, the Grizzlies, the Spurs, the Rockets or the Warriors this year? Very questionable in my opinion. I seriously doubt Miami would have reached the finals in more than two of the four seasons Lebron played with them if they played in the west. The weakness of the East is part of Lebron's legacy.

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9 years ago

Yeah, but you put LeBron on any playoff team in the West and they would likely become the favorite. He's just that good at making his teammates better. I have a hard time listening to his interviews though. It seems like he's forcing himself to say what he thinks people want to hear. Just sounds awkward to me.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Yeah, but you put LeBron on any playoff team in the West and they would likely become the favorite. He's just that good at making his teammates better. I have a hard time listening to his interviews though. It seems like he's forcing himself to say what he thinks people want to hear. Just sounds awkward to me.

One of the "experts" made a good point about Lebron. When JR Smith and Shupert played with the Knicks, they weren't very good. As soon as they went to the Cavs, they got a whole lot better playing with Lebron.

It's kind of ironic that neither JR or Mozgov were starters with the Nuggets, but both are now major contributors on an NBA finals team that just happens to have Lebron.

BTW, just more evidence that backs up my opinion of Carmelo (although he didn't play with Mozgov).

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

The improved play of JR and Shumpert since they left NY has been dramatic. I'm not sure if that is because of Lebron or because of how happy they must be to leave a sinking ship like the Knicks and join a contender. Mosgov impressed me when he was with the Nuggets. Why they ever traded him is beyond me.

True, if you put Lebron on any Western playoff team they would be much better and the favorite but I don't think you could say you could put him on any Western team and that team would not only make the playoffs but be the favorite like what appears to be the case with east.

If the Cavs go on to beat the Warriors or Rockets it will be a great accomplishment for them and probably Lebron's greatest, but still the finals will be their first really tough test. I just don't think this Cavs team, without a healthy Erving and Love, could beat the Spurs, Grizzlies, Clippers, Warriors or Rockets. We'll find out in the finals I guess.
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9 years ago

This will be the first time two rookie coaches will be in the NBA Finals.

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9 years ago

I hope Klay Thompson is healthy for the start of the series. That was a nasty hit he took.

The Warriors are just so deep.

The Cavs have a chance, but they're just so inexperienced (playoff wise) as a group. I see this as one of those "you have to lose one before you can learn how to win one" scenarios.

Should be a good series though.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

I hope Klay Thompson is healthy for the start of the series. That was a nasty hit he took.

I hope so too, although he hasn't played great in the playoffs. We need him at his best in the finals.

By the way, if you watch that play a few times it almost looks like it was intentional. That looked like a mma knee kick.

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9 years ago

Interesting stat here comparing Lebron to other greats.

50 win teams eliminated in post season career

Kobe Bryant 24
Michael Jordan. 20
Tim Duncan 18
Magic Johnson 13
Larry Bird. 10
Lebron James. 7

These #s include this post season.

The Bird and Magic numbers surprised me.

TL will love the fact Kobe is at the top

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Interesting stat here comparing Lebron to other greats.

50 win teams eliminated in post season career

Kobe Bryant 24
Michael Jordan. 20
Tim Duncan 18
Magic Johnson 13
Larry Bird. 10
Lebron James. 7

These #s include this post season.

The Bird and Magic numbers surprised me.

TL will love the fact Kobe is at the top

I believe the playoffs only included 12 teams until 1984.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Good move by the pelicans to hire coach Gentry. I expect the Pelicans to finish in the top 4 in the west next year now.

Looks like Thompson will likely play on Thursday. I hear Love may also along with Erving. This should be a great series. I said before the playoffs that I thought only 3 teams could beat the Warriors and one of them was the Cavs. The way we stopped Harden in 2 of the last 3 games makes me more confident. I think it helped us prepare for Lebron and gives us some ideas on how to play him. I still think Lebron will probably have a couple huge games just like Harden did, but our defense will be the difference in the series imo.
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9 years ago

Finally!!!!

Looks like Reggie Miller won't be calling the finals because last night he predicted the Cavs in 7.

He said it could go either way but he also said the great story of Lebron returning home is too good a story and it gives them the edge.

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9 years ago

Finally is right,TL. This has been a longggggg week!

There have been a lot of good stories about Curry the past week. Here's one of the best.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/ou...currys-jumper/

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9 years ago

Its Showtime in a little over 5 hours.

This wait has been waaaay too long. In future something needs to be done about it

Good luck to Tim and Warriors.

I want to see Lebron go back with his tail behind his legs LOL

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9 years ago

Great game last night and although the Dubs didn't play their best they get a win.

Too bad Irving is hurt and out for the rest of the finals. I will be surprised if the Cavs can win more than one game now.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Great game last night and although the Dubs didn't play their best they get a win.

Too bad Irving is hurt and out for the rest of the finals. I will be surprised if the Cavs can win more than one game now.

It is truly a matter of time now.

Early congrats are in order.

Lebron will be 2-4 in the NBA finals and I can guess one of the questions the writers will be asking him.

The dead season (no football or basketball) is upon us.

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9 years ago

Golden State Warriors 2015 World Champions.

Its a done deal. Put in the Books. They had a hell of a year and they deserved this one !

Even Lebron couldn't carry this thing with Kyrie and Love gone

Congrats Tim. Let the celebration begin

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9 years ago

Thanks guys. The Cavs would need some huge contributions from their bench to pull this out and I don't see that happening with the warriors defense. Dellavedova couldn't even get a shot off. Just too many injuries to overcome I think.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Thanks guys. The Cavs would need some huge contributions from their bench to pull this out and I don’t see that happening with the warriors defense. Dellavedova couldn't even get a shot off. Just too many injuries to overcome I think.

Yea, one good question is how many shots will Lebron jack up on average in the remaining games.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Yea, one good question is how many shots will Lebron jack up on average in the remaining games.

A ton. Either that or start passing more but he's kind of limited in who he passes to.

That last game by Lebron was impressive but was also the least efficient 40 point game in the nba all year and the least efficient 40 game in the playoffs since 1993 when Jordan shot a very low % in a 40 game.

Should be interesting to see what he does. I don't think the Dubs will change anything yet except maybe going small more and earlier.

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9 years ago

The Cavs can win without Irving. Just not sure they can win against the Warriors without him.

Saw a stat a couple of weeks ago about how the Cavs +/- and defensive efficiency were better with Irving off the court.

That said, the Cavs just don't have enough offense to beat the Warriors 4 times. Unless JR Smith miraculously becomes a consistent threat that they can count on. Then I'd say they have a slim chance.

But I agree, it appears this is the Warriors' year.

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9 years ago

Wow !! Holy Smokes.

I did not see this coming at all. I think everyone is just shocked and in disbelief

I truly thought this series was over with when Irving was out.

Curry sets record for most 3 pointers missed in NBA Finals at 13.

Now the Warriors have to fight back to send this to 7 games.

As much as I do not like Lebron James, I must say he might go down as one of the best ever.

He just willed it for the Cavs in this one

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Wow !! Holy Smokes.

I did not see this coming at all. I think everyone is just shocked and in disbelief

I truly thought this series was over with when Irving was out.

Curry sets record for most 3 pointers missed in NBA Finals at 13.

Now the Warriors have to fight back to send this to 7 games.

As much as I do not like Lebron James, I must say he might go down as one of the best ever.

He just willed it for the Cavs in this one

Of course I missed 99% of the game.

When I checked in it was about 1:15 secs to go and the CAVS were up by 5. Then JR Reed hacked someone for a easy 3 point play and it was down to only a 2 point lead.

I then learned that the CAVS had been up by 11 with about 3 minutes to go and I said the Warriors were just toying with the Cavs and could come back anytime they wanted.

I still can't believe this series will go 7 games.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Another bad game for the warriors. No sense of urgency. They could easily be down 2-0. Oh well. Let's see what happens in Cleveland now.
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  Another bad game for the warriors. No sense of urgency. They could easily be down 2-0. Oh well. Let's see what happens in Cleveland now.
  
  If the games in Cleveland are in the low 90's your boys will be in big trouble. That's the key for the Cavs, since they can not win a up and down wild shootout type of game.
  
  Could one superstar's extensive NBA Finals playoff experience counter a whole team's lack of NBA Finals experience?
  
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  If LeBron can beat this Warriors team with this Cavs team, it would finally be acceptable to use his name in the same breath as Jordan's. Still not much of a debate, but the comparisons would be far less laughable.
  
  That said, I still see the Warriors winning in 6 (possibly 7).
  
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  Watching game two tonight at home after watching it at a sports bar last night. So far, the shots Curry missed weren't because of tough defense. He just flat out missed shots he normally drains. He had some bad shooting games during the regular season. Not sure if he had any this bad but he usually bounced back the next game. He rarely has two bad games back to back.
  
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9 years ago

If the Cavs win tonight, there'll be a ton of pressure on GS for game #4...

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Yeah, Warriors have to take one of next 2 games. I think it is going to be tougher for them than Memphis games
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9 years ago

Tied going into Cleveland doesn't bode well for Golden State.

I've seen that happen too many times, and the visiting team usually doesn't make it out alive.

My prediction....James is too much for anyone at this point, Cleveland wins in 5.

Book it.

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My prediction....James is too much for anyone at this point, Cleveland wins in 5.

Book it.

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9 years ago

Way to go, Cavs.

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9 years ago

Warriors had great comeback. A little too much to overcome.

Curry looked really good late in game. See if he carries it to next game.

Cavs defense incredible. Just absolutely amazing

Thursday game is a must win for Warriors.

If they lose that's the series.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Warriors had great comeback. A little too much to overcome.

Curry looked really good late in game. See if he carries it to next game.

Cavs defense incredible. Just absolutely amazing

Thursday game is a must win for Warriors.

If they lose that's the series.

I hear you! What a turnabout.

With the Cavs up by 17 at the start of the 4th I declared to my uncle from Cleveland - that if the Cavs allowed GS to come back they did not deserve to win the series and that would have been the series for them.

17 points is a whole lot of points to overcome in just one period and although GS scared the living daylights out of Cavs fans, even when they cut it down to 3, I didn't believe the comeback would be completed.

The pressure is clearly on GS and as I predicted, if the game was in the 90s it would be a problem for GS as they are being D'd-Up by the Cavs with only 37 points in the first half.

I think the league office intervened to make sure that call on Clay Thompson - near the end of the game was correct because I think the refs were about to blow that call.

If they would have made that bad call and somehow GS managed to win the game and then went on to win the series...

...that call would have been know in Cleveland as "The Call" to go along with the fumble, the drive and the shot.

Was our congrats to Tim (mainly because of the Irving injury) premature?

Only time will tell.

BTW...

Tip of the cap to Dellavedova who showed up with 20.

http://www.nba.com/games/20150609/GS...#nbaGIboxscore

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9 years ago

James isn't winning it for them. Not to say he isn't dominant but GS clearly can win when he is going off or the games would not be so close. When it takes heroics from Dellavedova to win a game you cant yet count the warriors out.

The defense is great but GS also just doesn't look themselves. Nerves and being out of rhythm historically hurts teams that rely on the outside shot more.

Still......... Love and Kyrie out and you are down? GS might have got swept without the injuries.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Still......... Love and Kyrie out and you are down? GS might have got swept without the injuries.

Actually, I'd say it would be more likely that GS would have swept the Cavs if Love and Irving were playing.

The defense this hobbled Cavs lineup is playing is something else.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Actually, I'd say it would be more likely that GS would have swept the Cavs if Love and Irving were playing.

The defense this hobbled Cavs lineup is playing is something else.

Meh.....The defense is good no doubt but its being a bit over rated now. Steph looked more himself in the second half even with the defense. I see a combination of issues. The problem that GS is having is somewhat historical in the NBA. Most recent example was Orlando a few years back. Teams that depend on the three point shot usually have a problem in the playoffs at some point (Orlando manifested it in the Finals too).Steph also needs to break Dellavedova's ankles a few times. Seems like he's gotten in his head and needs to get his confidence back which he just might have done in the second half tonight.

I think the odds are pretty good its 2-2 by the weekend. Its not like the games haven't been really close. Its not like Lebron's supporting cast can play much better than they have and I think GS can play a whole lot better.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Meh.....The defense is good no doubt but its being a bit over rated now. Steph looked more himself in the second half even with the defense. I see a combination of issues. The problem that GS is having is somewhat historical in the NBA. Most recent example was Orlando a few years back. Teams that depend on the three point shot usually have a problem in the playoffs at some point (Orlando manifested it in the Finals too).Steph also needs to break Dellavedova's ankles a few times. Seems like he's gotten in his head and needs to get his confidence back which he just might have done in the second half tonight.

I think the odds are pretty good its 2-2 by the weekend. Its not like the games haven't been really close. Its not like Lebron's supporting cast can play much better than they have and I think GS can play a whole lot better.

I agree. My point was that if Love and Irving are playing those minutes, GS would be getting quite a few more high percentage shots. I don't think a 100% healthy Cavs squad could beat GS in a shoot out style 7 game series this year. In the case of this particular matchup, losing Love and Irving almost seems like addition by subtraction.

If the Warriors can get their minds right and find a better offensive rhythm and find a way to win game 4, this could end up being one heck of a series. I'll be interested to see how LeBron holds up playing this many minutes if the series goes 7 games.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Uhg. The only thing the warriors are having a problem dealing with is "The Finals". Hopefully they can get beyond the added "pressure " of being in the Finals by next game so they can beat this inferior team. They simply just need to play their game.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Uhg. The only thing the warriors are having a problem dealing with is "The Finals". Hopefully they can get beyond the added "pressure " of being in the Finals by next game so they can beat this inferior team. They simply just need to play their game.

Yea Tim, I'm not sure what the count was in Game #3 but according to ESPN, in Game #2 they passed the ball only 200 times when they normal pass the ball at least 300 times a game.

Their normal offensive game consists of lots of movement and passes until someone gets a good look at the basket.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Meh.....The defense is good no doubt but its being a bit over rated now. Steph looked more himself in the second half even with the defense. I see a combination of issues. The problem that GS is having is somewhat historical in the NBA. Most recent example was Orlando a few years back. Teams that depend on the three point shot usually have a problem in the playoffs at some point (Orlando manifested it in the Finals too).Steph also needs to break Dellavedova's ankles a few times. Seems like he's gotten in his head and needs to get his confidence back which he just might have done in the second half tonight.

I think the odds are pretty good its 2-2 by the weekend. Its not like the games haven't been really close. Its not like Lebron's supporting cast can play much better than they have and I think GS can play a whole lot better.

James isn't even playing well and they are up 2-1. James breaks out, and it's lights out for the Warriors.

Like I said earlier, this series isn't leaving Cleveland.

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9 years ago

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Like I said earlier, this series isn't leaving Cleveland.

Game 5 is in Oakland.

The only Warrior playing well is Iguodala. If just a couple others, such as Barnes and Green, were just playing their normal game they would be up 3-0.

James breaks out, and it's lights out for the Warriors.

Not if Curry breaks out too. I think that is what most fans were hoping for before the series. Although, the games have been close with exciting endings, this hasn't been a well played series.

A local sports writer said today that the Warriors are pissed. That's good because they play well when they are angry. They should be pissed. I know I am. Geesh. At least play one game in the finals at the same level that they have played at all year.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Game 5 is in Oakland.

The only Warrior playing well is Iguodala. If just a couple others, such as Barnes and Green, were just playing their normal game they would be up 3-0.

Not if Curry breaks out too. I think that is what most fans were hoping for before the series. Although, the games have been close with exciting endings, this hasn't been a well played series.

A local sports writer said today that the Warriors are pissed. That's good because they play well when they are angry. They should be pissed. I know I am. Geesh. At least play one game in the finals at the same level that they have played at all year.

Yeah playoffs and the Finals are a totally different animal than the Regular Season. Iam not saying the Warriors can't win. I think they will come out firing on all four cylinders tomorrow. And really have a good chance.

But I just think you cannot really apply the regular season to the post season.

No matter how good a team is with the Xs and Os ,the pressure of a Finals like this can affect their play. And its not necessarily that they are playing "bad" , but I think its just a fundamental hardship of playing in the highest pressure game that the basketball world has to offer !

People like Lebron who has Finals experience knows how to Peak at certain times and it becomes a mental game as much as anything.

It will be interesting to see how Curry can handle the Pressure. Because quite honestly he has never seen it like this. The is a first for him

I think he will be able to. But Im sure James will be there to have a say in it

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But I just think you cannot really apply the regular season to the post season.

When I mentioned how they played all season I was including the playoffs also. Up to the Finals the Warriors had played very well in the playoffs. The Houston series was played at a very high level by both teams. Offensively and defensively. The Memphis series was great basketball also.

This series is only interesting in that the games are close and that is important. But let's see some great offense for a change. The Warriors showed some signs of snapping out of it in the 4th quarter of game 3, much like they did in game 3 of the Memphis series, which they also lost to put them behind 2-1. Let's see if they can keep it going in game 4. It's a must win game really, but don't anyone tell them that. Lol
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Game 5 is in Oakland.

The only Warrior playing well is Iguodala. If just a couple others, such as Barnes and Green, were just playing their normal game they would be up 3-0.

Not if Curry breaks out too. I think that is what most fans were hoping for before the series. Although, the games have been close with exciting endings, this hasn't been a well played series.

A local sports writer said today that the Warriors are pissed. That's good because they play well when they are angry. They should be pissed. I know I am. Geesh. At least play one game in the finals at the same level that they have played at all year.

Yea, the Finals' game format was changed I believe a couple of year ago. It was 2-3-2 but now its 2-2-1-1-1.

And David Lee could be a big key for the Warriors.

Enjoy!!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Game 5 is in Oakland.

The only Warrior playing well is Iguodala. If just a couple others, such as Barnes and Green, were just playing their normal game they would be up 3-0.

Not if Curry breaks out too. I think that is what most fans were hoping for before the series. Although, the games have been close with exciting endings, this hasn't been a well played series.

A local sports writer said today that the Warriors are pissed. That's good because they play well when they are angry. They should be pissed. I know I am. Geesh. At least play one game in the finals at the same level that they have played at all year.

While I am glad I was wrong, the finals are a 2-3-2 format unless something has changed in the last year.

Game 5 should be at Cleveland.

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Lance K 9 years ago

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While I am glad I was wrong, the finals are a 2-3-2 format unless something has changed in the last year.

Game 5 should be at Cleveland.

Game 5 in in Oakland. 2-2-1-1-1 format. I don't believe it's new for this year, but am not certain. Personally, I kind of liked the old 2-3-2 format.
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- Mike Anthony 9 years ago
  
  guys they got this thing called Google
  
  why debate back and forth as to the format?
  
  NBA owners change Finals format to 2-2-1-1-1 | NBA.com
  
  changed two years ago
  
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- TLTheLiberator 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Lance K
  
  Game 5 in in Oakland. 2-2-1-1-1 format. I don't believe it's new for this year, but am not certain. Personally, I kind of liked the old 2-3-2 format.
  
  The 2-3-2 format was interesting. I remember when my Lakers were down 3 games to 2 but won games 6 and 7 in LA to beat the Pistons in 7 back in 1988. It was Magic's last.
  
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  TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  I don't think I have ever seen so many stats about a series. It's crazy the things they can come up with. Here's one about Lebron, Kobe and MJ.
  
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  discrat 9 years ago
  
  I think Curry will be on fire from the beginning.
  
  I haven't seen him do it in awhile and I think he his due.
  
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Lance K 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

James isn't even playing well and they are up 2-1. James breaks out, and it's lights out for the Warriors.

Dude's nearly averaging a triple double.
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

It's do or die for Golden State tonight...

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

It's do or die for Golden State tonight...

And its a big DO for the Warriors.

Looks more like the team people are used to seeing

Momentum shifts to Golden State. Its theirs to win.

No way they are going to lose two at home in a playoff series when they lost only two games the whole regular season at home.

I will have to concede if Kyrie and Love were healthy the Cavs would have taken this series in 6. Maybe even 4-0 sweep considering Game 1 rim out.

The Cavs are just undermanned and get tired. With Love and kyrie it would be a whole different dynamic tonight.

I just cant see them beating Cavs with those two guys added into the mix.

Maybe Iam wrong. But it seems like next year if those two guys come back healthy they will definitely be the favorites

Anyway, when Warriors get hot its lights out. And Curry is due for a huge night. I cannot see Cavs being able to contain him Sunday at home.

Lebron will have to wait for No. 3 . Not this year , Ha !
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  Originally Posted by discrat
  
  If Kyrie and Love were healthy this series would be over though 4-0
  
  Maybe, with warriors winning!
  
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  Great coaching move by Kerr, to go small, replace Bogut with Iguodala and stay small most of the game. I wasn't expecting that move but it makes total sense.
  
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  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Great coaching move by Kerr, to go small, replace Bogut with Iguodala and stay small most of the game. I wasn't expecting that move but it makes total sense.
  
  Yeah Tim they have won this way whole Season and it definitely has paid off for them. They ought to keep it that way for Sunday.
  
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getbread

9 years ago

Interested see what adjustments the Warriors make tonight. I know Lee will play more but they need to make other changes to turn things around.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by getbread

Interested see what adjustments the Warriors make tonight. I know Lee will play more but they need to make other changes to turn things around.

They may start to double Lebron more often. In 279 offensive touches the Warriors have only double teamed him 15 times. Defense hasn't really been their problem though.

On offense, I think you may see less picks and more isos with Curry, and just way more of Curry shooting the ball. Curry has fewer total shots than Lebron has misses.
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Good moves by Kerr but 82 points and shooting only 33% is not going to get it done 95+% of the time and especially not in the NBA Finals.

That is the stat of the game IMHO.

- Lee, Iggy and Livingston play big roles in Warrior success while James meets a camera he doesn't like.

- I know James had to get some rest but at the start of the 4th he was really needed.

Now it's back to the Golden State for game #5 Sunday night with this series tied at 2.

http://www.nba.com/games/20150611/GS...#nbaGIboxscore

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

...while James meets a camera he doesn't like.

That was his choosing. As the annoucer said he dove into the cameramen. Total flop attempt. He looked defeated at that point.
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9 years ago

The 30 Most WTF Moments Of The 2014-2015 NBA Season

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Game #5 tonight!

NBA Finals history says that when the series is tied at 2, the team that wins game #5 wins the series at least 80% of the time.

I'll see most of the 1st half and then all of 4th period because I have to watch the season finale of GOT with the kid.

My prediction is I'll join the 2nd half with about 4 minutes to go in the 3rd.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Game #5 goes to the Warriors 104-91 who have won 2 in a row.

Will it be 3 in a row?

It seems like sooner or later the Cavs run out of steam. Kudos to Coach Kerr for the changes in the lineup. GS's missed free throws (14) kept the Cavs in the game until...

Lebron faces 80-20% historic odds of losing another finals and he'll be 2-4 while Jordan was 6-0.

On to game #6!

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Lance K 9 years ago

You know, for as good as LeBron is and as big an impact that he has on any given game...he sure takes some dumb shots in critical situations. I'm sure the number of minutes he has played has a role in it, but dang. It's like his basketball IQ is off the charts for 95% of the game and nonexistent for 5% of the game. Maybe he's trying to prove to himself that he's the best player in the world. I don't know. But he makes some boneheaded basketball plays at pretty inopportune times. Then again, maybe he just doesn't have enough trust in the "also rans" he's playing with.
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9 years ago

I hope they end this on Tuesday.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by getbread

I hope they end this on Tuesday.

Not me, I wouldn't mind if it went 7.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

So the warriors are having a "watch party" at their home arena to watch the game on the big scoreboard screen. Tickets sold for $15 each. Over 19000 seats. Sold out, and now some are being resold on stub hub for as much $500. One baseline courtside seat is trying to be sold at $1100.

Lol. Hey, it's not a real game. Being courtside isn't better when there's no players in front of you and the screen is directly above you!

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discrat

9 years ago

Lebron says he is not worried because he is the best player in the World.

LeBron James of Cleveland Cavaliers Still Confident for NBA Finals

If they had held service at home I would agree. But I can't see him carrying the Cavs for two games in a row with Warriors.

No way would I take that bet

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Lebron says he is not worried because he is the best player in the World.

LeBron James of Cleveland Cavaliers Still Confident for NBA Finals

If they had heldl service at home I would agree. But I can't see him carrying the Cavs for two games in a row with Warriors.

No way would I take that bet

Same here, they may be able to protect their house tonight but then they have to return to the golden state.

No matter what happens I see these teams meeting again next year. No one can stop the Cavs from coming out of the east and I don't see the same happening to the Warriors in the west.

This may be the first of a best of 3.

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discrat 9 years ago

Yeah as much as I do not want James to win and rather see Warriors take it, Iam rooting for a Game 7 as well.

It will be electrifying if we get it.

I know the Commish and NBA execs. are wanting to see it happen
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Lebron says he is not worried because he is the best player in the World.

That comment just annoys me and is a good example of why so many root against this guy. There's a lot of talk about if the Warriors win they may give the MVP to James. He would be the first losing player since Jerry West won it in 69 after losing to the Celtics.

I want the Warriors to win tonight and Curry have a huge game so this guy on the losing team doesn't get the MVP. I also just don't want the series to go seven because it never should have went 6.

I see Cavs fans saying "wait until we get all our players back next year". Well, this year has been a great experience for the Warriors. They are only going to get better next year and won't have any Finals jitters next time. I'll be glad to send Lebron home to another defeat in the Finals, if we make it past the tough Western Conference again.

Lebron's record in the Finals is terrible, but it's still "I'm the greatest player in the world"

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Lance K

9 years ago

I won't kill him for his record in the finals, because he's taken some not so great teams to the finals. And some times when he did have good teams, they rand into buzz saws like the Spurs.

That said, what a dumb comment. It's a team sport. Doesn't matter how great he is. And to those who will say he said it to boost his teammates' confidence...I don't buy it.

If you want to boost their confidence, say..."I have been here before and I'm confident we can still win this series. I have faith in my guys. This group has already won at home and on the road in this series. We have a few things to clean up, but if we do that we have a very good shot at winning the trophy."

IMO if he was as good a leader as he would have us believe, it's time to get up in JR Smith & Shumpert's faces (privately of course - and maybe he has) and tell them it's time to step up. Not get down on 'em, but get on 'em. We pulled you out of that debacle known as the Knicks a few short months ago and now you have a chance at a championship ring, but we need your help. How bad do you want it fellas?

But nah, let me just take this opportunity to tell everyone that I am confident because I am the best player in the world. That should do the trick.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

If you want to boost their confidence, say..."I have been here before and I'm confident we can still win this series. I have faith in my guys. This group has already won at home and on the road in this series. We have a few things to clean up, but if we do that we have a very good shot at winning the trophy."

Exactly. That would have been better.

Can't wait for this game. Go Warriors!!

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Lance K

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I want the Warriors to win tonight and Curry have a huge game so this guy on the losing team doesn't get the MVP. I also just don't want the series to go seven because it never should have went 6.

I really think LeBron's comment is going to backfire. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Cavs come out flat and the Warriors pounce in the 1st quarter. If they can build a double digit lead early, this one should be signed, sealed, & delivered.

The one thing that concerns me is that it seems James hasn't been getting some of the calls so far in this series that you would expect a superstar to get. Maybe the refereeing tightens up a little bit tonight. I'm sure the NBA would be delighted if there happened to be a game 7.

That said, I think Kerr's championship experience as a player will help him make sure his team is ready to close it out tonight. If the Cavs win tonight it won't be because they stole 1 at home.

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Lance K

9 years ago

7:00 minutes left. Somewhere in heaven Chick Hearn's talking about jiggling jello. Congrats, Tim.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Congrats to Golden State

The one man "best player in the world so I am not worried" team should stop hanging out with the Williams sisters.

This ain't Tennis
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- discrat 9 years ago
  
  Warriors deserve it. Would have liked to see Cavs force Game 7.
  
  But Warriors just a superior team all the way around.
  
  Great season.
  
  Have to say I can't wait to see a healthy Spurs team next year. I am counting the days down.
  
  They are the only team (healthy) that would have taken this Series to 7 games.
  
  2014 Spurs Finals Team versus 2015 Warriors Finals team would have been an incredible Series.
  
  But this year its Golden State and very impressive season from beginning to end.
  
  Congrats Tim
  
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  Kind of shocked that Iggy got MVP over Curry. No doubt Iggy played a big role in the series, but Steph was the MVP.
  
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  Originally Posted by Lance K
  
  Kind of shocked that Iggy got MVP over Curry. No doubt Iggy played a big role in the series, but Steph was the MVP.
  
  Really???????
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Congrats Tim!

You and your team are Kings Of The NBA!

Enjoy!

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Seriously, when Andre won the MVP I was so happy. He really deserved it 100%! He was the constant force on offense and defense in this series. He really did shut down Lebron one on one. It's great to see him get this after going to second team for the first time in his career and him never complaining. Just beautiful!

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Lance K

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Seriously, when Andre won the MVP I was so happy. He really deserved it 100%! He was the constant force on offense and defense in this series. He really did shut down Lebron one on one. It's great to see him get this after going to second team for the first time in his career and him never complaining. Just beautiful!

No doubt a feel good story. But take Curry off that team and the Warriors lose the series. Take Igoudala off and they still have a chance.

Steph commands so much attention and defensive effort on every possession. Putting that much strain on the defense non stop really opens things up for the rest of the team. Not to mention the absolute daggers he hit (no, scratch that...SWISHED) in games 6 & 7.

I've always liked Igoudala & won't complain that much because he does seem like a good dude & he did play a big role in this series. But I still have a bit of a hard time believing that Iggy was more valuable to the Warriors than Steph in the finals.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

No doubt a feel good story. But take Curry off that team and the Warriors lose the series. Take Igoudala off and they still have a chance.

Steph commands so much attention and defensive effort on every possession. Putting that much strain on the defense non stop really opens things up for the rest of the team. Not to mention the absolute daggers he hit (no, scratch that...SWISHED) in games 6 & 7.

I've always liked Igoudala & won't complain that much because he does seem like a good dude & he did play a big role in this series. But I still have a bit of a hard time believing that Iggy was more valuable to the Warriors than Steph in the finals.

I have no problem with Steph winning mvp and as a Warrior fan I wanted him to win over Lebron but Iguodala was a better player throughout the whole series. Igoudala deserved this so much and I doubt Steph or any of his fans disagree.

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discrat 9 years ago

Tim, I think it is only appropriate for me to pass the Torch onto you to start our 2015- 2016 NBA Thread

I started it the previous month of the start of the regular season which was Sept 1st

But its up to you

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Originally Posted by Lance K

But I still have a bit of a hard time believing that Iggy was more valuable to the Warriors than Steph in the finals.

I had no problem believing it at all. He is who I thought should have got it (They did Lebron a favor. If they gave him it, breaking with tradition, then the hate for him would have grown even stronger - especially after his I am the greatest speech).

Your MVP in a series isn't always your best player. Most people thought GS was in bad shape until Iggy's role was changed. On both sides of the ball he completely changed the series. Meanwhile Kerr just cemented his future multi million dollar career as a head coach in the NBA with that move (and the young assistant that suggested it increased his pay grade)

but TBH I think Steph for the most part had an off series. If they get another shot at the finals I guess he might be more free flowing. They won but - dunno - just not the dynamic passing splash team of the regular season.

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discrat 9 years ago

Vegas is making the Cavs clear cut favorites for next years Finals.

Warriors and Thunder are second at 5-1 odds.
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  Vegas is making the Cavs clear cut favorites for next years Finals.
  
  Warriors and Thunder are second at 5-1 odds.
  
  You know the Cavs will be a huge favorite to get back to the finals being in the East. The Thunder will be tough to beat if they can stay healthy. I like the warriors chances though.
  
  By the way, Klay Thompson trolled Lebron after the game by calling Curry the best player in the world and smirking. Lol
  
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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

but TBH I think Steph for the most part had an off series. If they get another shot at the finals I guess he might be more free flowing. They won but - dunno - just not the dynamic passing splash team of the regular season.

Yep. Several players were off offensively this series including Klay, Barnes and Green. Curry's numbers were actually pretty decent although he had that one terrible game. They played great d, but didn't shoot the ball their best.

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Lance K 9 years ago

Just saw an ESPN article that says the Warriors and David Lee are working together to deal him. Seems like both sides are being pretty classy about it. Glad he gets a ring for his sacrifices. Not many people could do what he and Igoudala did this season.

I think it could end up being a great move for both sides. Lee's contract expires after next season. At 32, he's still a pretty capable player. Even though his salary is pretty big, I could see a lot of teams being interested in what he can bring to their team for one year as well as an expiring contract. Especially since the salary cap is due to take a jump after next season. He could be just what a team is looking for to help them over the hump next year and leave them with a lot of cap flexibility for the future.

In return, the Warriors could add some role players for their bench and/or draft picks. Not to mention having that extra money freed up to match any offers Green gets, and work on getting an extension done for Barnes. Having Curry, Thompson, Green, & Barnes all locked up for at least the next 2 years would be huge.
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9 years ago

That was a good series although I think it is a joke that Curry got no MVP votes and Lebron got four.

This is the first team in a long time to not have an elite big man. The last 15 years we have seen Duncan, Gasol, Shaq, Bosh, Dirk, and a bunch of others so this is definitely a different kinda team.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by getbread

That was a good series although I think it is a joke that Curry got no MVP votes and Lebron got four.

This is the first team in a long time to not have an elite big man. The last 15 years we have seen Duncan, Gasol, Shaq, Bosh, Dirk, and a bunch of others so this is definitely a different kinda team.

Yes, I read somewhere that the last three games starters for the Warriors were the smallest starting lineup in the finals since the 1971 Bullets.

A lot of the media are giving credit to the Phoenix teams with Nash for paving the way for the small effective Warriors lineup and there is a lot of truth in thar with the connection that Kerr and Gentry had with that team, but before the Suns there was Nellie ball, the small ball of Don Nelson. I remember when the Warriors drafted Chris Webber #1 Nelson wanted to play him, a power forward, at center much like Draymond Green did many times this year. Unfortunately Webber stupidly didn't go along with the idea. It could have been a great team with Tim Hardaway, Mullin etc... Webber ruined that team.

By the way, Bosh is 6'11" but plays more like a small forward. My ex gf who knows basketball very well calls him pudding pie because he's so soft. Lol

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Warriors had their parade yesterday and nobody enjoyed it more than Draymond Green. The players were on top of buses but Draymond decided to get down and mix with the fans. I love the guy. Favorite parts of this video are when he grabs a champagne bottle and pours it over a couple fans. Then he takes a big flag from a fan who didn't want to give it up and then doesn't give it back. Lol

Draymond Green at Warriors NBA Championship...

The parade was at 11 am and apparently Draymond never stopped celebrating from 3 days earlier.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/...s-championship

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discrat

9 years ago

Tim,
I do not mean to rain on your parade but...

Let me preface this by saying I have a lot of respect for the Warriors. Steve Kerr is a really solid good guy and Steph Curry is a true Ambassador to the Sport of basketball. You should be very proud of that.

We need more like Curry playing the game. He is Head and Shoulders above "the Chosen One" !
Both on and off the court !

And Klay Thompson seems the same way as well.

That being said I think Draymond Green is a lousy role model and acts like a dumb a$$ thug and is an embarrassment to the whole Warriors Organization.

If I was a Warrior fan I would put my head down in disgust (just as Klay Thompson did) when this idiot gets in the limelight.

And I don't care how valuable a player he is to the team !!

Green really lost my respect when he hit a three pointer a month or two ago and started blatantly twerking his butt literally just feet in front of the opposing teams bench.

Sorry I cannot stand the guy. Totally classless. I put him in the same category as Matt Barnes.

He shouldn't be in the NBA, really.

You may think Iam picking on your Team. But Im really not.

Same thing with Blair when he played with Spurs.

He was an a-hole and acted like a Thug and I said at that time he was an embarrassment to the Spurs Organization .

I still stand by that. I was so thankful that they dumped him on the Mavs

But Green is just a classless A$$ !!

I guarantee you Pop wouldn't stand for such an idiot like this on his team

I'm sure as Kerr gets some years under his belt and some more seniority and credibility built up he won't be putting up much longer with this stupid nonsense

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Robert, you can't rain on this parade or ruin my Warriors buzz.

Green a thug? Ridiculous. I'm surprised you would say that. All Warrior fans love the guy. You don't know him. I guarantee if he was on your team you, the Spurs fans and Pops would love him too. He's a born leader who happens to like to talk a lot. Yes, he can be an ass but he also can be very respectful of his opponents. The deal with Doc Rivers was a good example. He gave Rivers a bad time but then said a few days later how much he respected him.

Lighten up. Calling him a thug is way way off.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

. He's a born leader who happens to like to talk a lot.
Yes, he can be an ass but he also can be very respectful of his opponents. The deal with Doc Rivers was a good example. He gave Rivers a bad time but then said a few days later how much he respected him.

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Tim,
this reminds me of that saying .... " a child only a mother could love"

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Robert, you can't rain on this parade or ruin my Warrive buzz.

Green a thug? Ridiculous. I'm surprised you would say that. All Warrior fans love the guy. You don't know him. I guarantee if he was on your team you, the Spurs fans and Pops would love him too. He's a born leader who happens to like to talk a lot. Yes, he can be an ass but he also can be very respectful of his opponents. The deal with Doc Rivers was a good example. He gave Rivers a bad time but then said a few days later how much he respected him.

Lighten up. Calling him a thug is way way off.

Tim,
I can promise you beyond a shadow of a doubt I wouldn't like him. I know it sounds like Im trying to pick on the Team but Im not. And I can promise you a lot of Spurs fans wouldn't like him either.

Thats just the way I roll. And many around here roll. Sorry but this kind of behavior is a huge sore spot for me. It really is. A big pet peeve of mine in a major way !!

And I will tell you straight up that if Tim Duncan started twerking and putting his arse in front of an opposing team's bench like Green did I would not be a fan of Duncan's. (And Pop would have jerked his a$$ off the court and straight to the bench.)

I wouldn't care how good Duncan is and what he has meant for the Spurs. He could take a hike as far as Im concerned.

Its a matter of having decency and class. And Green has zilch

Its just as simple as that.

Doesn't matter about how good they are or about how many Ws a team gets with the player.

And it does not matter if the player is with the Warriors, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs or whoever.

This latest incident just hit a nerve with me.

For instance Iam not a huge Tony Parker fan. Kind of indifferent. He has done well but a very good friend of mine who worked at Starbucks not far from where I live has seen Parker and Duncan come in many times .

He says Dunk is really cool and friendly but that Parker is a major a$$. He is just rude to people around him and telling them very rudely no pictures get away etc..etc.. whereas Duncan who is right with him is very courteous and respectful.

My friend is very reliable so I have no reason to not believe him

But I do give Parker the benefit of the doubt since he has been a pretty decent sport on the Court. And behaved well in the Media and in the Public eye.

But if he was acting like a major clown and I was a witness to this there is no question I would not even want my child to take a picture with him

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Good grief. I saw that play against Memphis. He didn't twerk on them. If you look at it from the side it looks like the defender fouls him and helps push Draymond into the bench were he stayed for like a 1/2 second. Twerking? Thug? Really silly stuff, Robert.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Good grief. I saw that play against Memphis. He didn't twerking on them. If you look at it from the side it looks like the defender fouls him and helps push Draymond into the bench were he stayed for like a 1/2 second. Twerking? Thug? Really silly stuff, Robert.

Okay Tim. Enough of my rant.

I guess sometimes I can get a little carried away over certain issues.

Ive always thought highly of the Organization and still do. For some reason this struck a chord with me lately

But like my opinion really matters, anyway

Like they say opinions are like a$$holes...everyone has one.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

By the way, Klay Thompson doesn't like to talk much but his dad Mychal does. He does it for a living as a radio announcer for the Lakers. He's said some interesting things recently.

"I also heard it on good authority from a team that plays in the Bay Area that they're going to go hard after Kevin Durant."

Man, would that be a great fit for this team!

Thompson also said he thought the Warriors were good enough to go on a roll like the Laker show time teams and win 3 or 4 or 5 championships. He should know because he won back to back with the Lakers. He also said during the Finals it was a joke to think Dellavedova could cover Curry.

Klay had a good line at the rally Friday. He said he got his shooting genes from his mother. Ouch!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

By the way, Klay Thompson doesn't like to talk much but his dad Mychal does. He does it for a living as a radio announcer for the Lakers. He's said some interesting things recently.

"I also heard it on good authority from a team that plays in the Bay Area that they're going to go hard after Kevin Durant."

Man, would that be a great fit for this team!

Thompson also said he thought the Warriors were good enough to go on a roll like the Laker show time teams and win 3 or 4 or 5 championships. He should know because he won back to back with the Lakers. He also said during the Finals it was a joke to think Dellavedova could cover Curry.

Klay had a good line at the rally Friday. He said he got his shooting genes from his mother. Ouch!

Wow, I couldn't imagine in my wildest dreams that OKC would let go of Durant.

That just wouldn't make sense.

But who knows stranger things have happened

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Good grief. I saw that play against Memphis. He didn't twerk on them. If you look at it from the side it looks like the defender fouls him and helps push Draymond into the bench where he stayed for like a 1/2 second. Twerking? Thug? Really silly stuff, Robert.

Tim, some folks simply don't like giving up the crown.

It over Robert, you are no longer NBA Champs.

LIVE WITH IT!!!!!

I have and so can you - if you try.

LOL!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Tim, some folks simply don't like giving up the crown.

It over Robert, you are no longer NBA Champs.

LIVE WITH IT!!!!!

I have and so can you - if you try.

LOL!

LOL !!

TL,
Its been over for 1 1/2 months now. That feeling of being pissed off and having to "LIVE WITH IT"was over with the first week in May.

Its not like we were on top for very long. It was 7 years before that when we won last.

On the contrary, I was tickled to see Lebron be denied again for 2 years in a row. And by the Warriors nonetheless.
Which makes it even more satisfying to know that someone like Curry whom I admire very much and has a lot of class gets to deny the so called best ever who has little class.

It wouldn't matter if Green were on the Spurs, Clippers, or timberwolves.

I would still feel the same way. I feel the same way about Barnes and he and the Clippers Organization is nothing at all to be jealous about .

So my rant doesn't have anything to do with not having to like "giving up the crown"

But as I said earlier enough of my Rant

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Draft day today and there's a lot of rumors going around regarding trades and free agency. This draft is loaded with talent.

Regarding free agency, I just saw a headline on HP saying "Oh My God, the Lakers could get DeMarcus and LaMarcus this Summer?" TL would love that, but it won't happen because my curse is still in place. LaMarcus seems more likely to go to the Spurs which would make Robert happy I think.

I can't believe the Kings would trade Cousins though, even if Karl doesn't like him.

Another rumor has my Dubs trying to move up in the draft.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Draft day today and there's a lot of rumors going around regarding trades and free agency. This draft is loaded with talent.

Regarding free agency, I just saw a headline on HP saying "Oh My God, the Lakers could get DeMarcus and LaMarcus this Summer?"

TL would love that, but it won't happen because my curse is still in place. LaMarcus seems more likely to go to the Spurs which would make Robert happy I think.

I can't believe the Kings would trade Cousins though, even if Karl doesn't like him.

Another rumor has my Dubs trying to move up in the draft.

I don't know why we'd want Cousins when we have a promising young power forward who got injured last year.

We have 3 of the first 34 picks. This will be a good test of Kupchak's powers as a GM.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I don't know why we'd want Cousins when we have a promising young power forward who got injured last year.

We have 3 of the first 34 picks. This will be a good test of Kupchak's powers as a GM.

A lot of GMs would take him and run. Don't know how it makes any sense to the kings though. An unproven first round pick for a proven player the caliber of Cousins is a move that could easily get a GM fired when it doesn't pan out. I don't know that LA has anything that would sweeten a deal enough

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

A lot of GMs would take him and run. Don't know how it makes any sense to the kings though. An unproven first round pick for a proven player the caliber of Cousins is a move that could easily get a GM fired when it doesn't pan out. I don't know that LA has anything that would sweeten a deal enough

Get a GM fired or perhaps a coach. Apparently the Kings are considering firing Karl. Good grief, that organization is a mess. Something like 9 coaches in 10 years.

Cousins is arguably the second best center in the league and would go well with Randle.

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9 years ago

I am truly dumbfounded that the Warriors did not make the Cover of SI last week and now today.

Truly unbelievable.

I let last Thursday slide because the Warriors had just won on Tuesday and they probably printed the issue late Tuesday( an assumption since I get it on Thursday in mail). So Blackhawks made it on front

So I went to mailbox today expecting to see Curry or Steve Kerr on front cover only to find Jordan Spieth on front cover.

It was a hell of a US open but the Warriors deserved the Cover. Just a historical Season for Warriors and the most watched Finals in NBA history/

Like I said unbelievable!!

I know I got my last year's SI with Kawhi on the front cover on Spur's Finals dominance and it is carefully wrapped up in a secure plastic bag and it will remain untouched in Mint condition for many years to come.

The Warrior fans deserve the same opportunity this year.

Complete breakdown of SI . They missed it huge this year

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Lance K

9 years ago

Kurt, your Nuggets got a potential superstar in Emmanuel Mudiay. I hope he pans out for them.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Kurt, your Nuggets got a potential superstar in Emmanuel Mudiay. I hope he pans out for them.

I'm thrilled!

Mudiay was the player I wanted us to draft (within reason), although I thought we'd have to trade up to 3 or 4 to get him.

I think this is only the third time as a Nuggets fan we drafted the player I wanted (within reason). David Thompson was one, although we technically didn't draft him and the other was Faried.

I would have taken Mudiay over Russell and probably any player other than Towns. Larry Brown said Mudiay is the best young point guard he's ever seen. And when they played head up, Mudiay totally outplayed Russell.

Mudiay's weakness is the mid range jumper/free throw shooting. Hopefully, he can improve. But the rest of his game is complete on both O and D.

I'd like to thank Phil Zenmaster TWICE. First, for picking Porzingas, which helped Mudiay to fall to us. And also for picking Porzingas because he's unlikely to help the Knicks improve this year....and we have the option to swap first round picks next year with the Knicks which is a remnant of the Carmelo trade.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

I was watching when the Knicks drafted and really did LOL when all the Knicks fans started booing including that one young kid who was crying. So funny. Phil said he was going to rebuild through free agency but I can't see this draft helping draw in any big names. He seems to be clueless.

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9 years ago

I'm going to go against the grain and back Phil or at least give him the benefit of the doubt. He rolled the dice on a 7' 1' very young player that can shoot from all over the court and moves like few seven footers do. If he can puts on some weight and retain mobility the guy could be a good player in the NBA and given the height maybe even special

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Orlando was going for the kid at five so its not like he dug into the barrel and Knicks are not really in contention for winning anything in the next two years anyway. Carmelo to me is the least super of the superstars.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Yeah, Porzingus has a big upside and could turn into a great, but most people think it's going to take a year or two for him to really contribute. I think that's why Knick fans were upset and just the lousy history of European lottery picks. We'll see. Actually that guard Grant sounds like he could be a good one also.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yeah, Porzingus has a big upside and could turn into a great, but most people think it's going to take a year or two for him to really contribute. I think that's why Knick fans were upset and just the lousy history of European lottery picks. We'll see. Actually that guard Grant sounds like he could be a good one also.

Even Zenmaster said it will take a year. Most others think it will take a couple of years.

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I was watching when the Knicks drafted and really did LOL when all the Knicks fans started booing including that one young kid who was crying

Knicks fans are a riot. I wouldn't have been surprised if they booed even if the Knicks had the first pick in 1984 and selected Michael Jordan. But if James Dolan owned the team I loved, I'd probably boo every decision too.
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Lance K

9 years ago

Kurt, I can't remember which scout it was, but they compared his athleticism to Russell Westbrook. Said he may be the most athletic PG in the league the day he arrives. High praise. Anybody can be taught to shoot if they're dedicated enough and have a solid work ethic. Much like size, you can't teach athleticism. I really hope he makes it big. I'd imagine his life story is any ESPN Films producer's fantasy project.

Originally Posted by Kurt

I'm thrilled!

Mudiay was the player I wanted us to draft (within reason), although I thought we'd have to trade up to 3 or 4 to get him.

I think this is only the third time as a Nuggets fan we drafted the player I wanted (within reason). David Thompson was one, although we technically didn't draft him and the other was Faried.

I would have taken Mudiay over Russell and probably any player other than Towns. Larry Brown said Mudiay is the best young point guard he's ever seen. And when they played head up, Mudiay totally outplayed Russell.

Mudiay's weakness is the mid range jumper/free throw shooting. Hopefully, he can improve. But the rest of his game is complete on both O and D.

I'd like to thank Phil Zenmaster TWICE. First, for picking Porzingas, which helped Mudiay to fall to us. And also for picking Porzingas because he's unlikely to help the Knicks improve this year....and we have the option to swap first round picks next year with the Knicks which is a remnant of the Carmelo trade.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Kurt, I can't remember which scout it was, but they compared his athleticism to Russell Westbrook. Said he may be the most athletic PG in the league the day he arrives. High praise.

I hadn't heard that. That really is high praise! Westbrook has incredible athleticism.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Kurt, I can't remember which scout it was, but they compared his athleticism to Russell Westbrook. Said he may be the most athletic PG in the league the day he arrives. High praise. Anybody can be taught to shoot if they're dedicated enough and have a solid work ethic. Much like size, you can't teach athleticism. I really hope he makes it big. I'd imagine his life story is any ESPN Films producer's fantasy project.

The Nuggets say his stroke isn't broken and feel he will improve his shooting.

He's as athletic as anyone. I've heard Iverson with a big body, a combo of Wall and Westbrook, etc. He can drive at will and is a good and willing passer.

Loves to play D as well, saying he likes to take the other team's best player other than their center.

And he's a good, smart kid whose family over-came a lot. He's easy to root for.

Now I just need the Knicks to be really bad next year and we can get their high lottery pick. One thing we do know is Melo won't pass to Porzingas, since Melo doesn't pass to anyone.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Some interesting stuff going on in free agency. DeAndre Jordan seems more likely to leave the Clippers and I don't think them signing Paul Pierce will sway him in their direction much. I didn't think he would leave the Clippers but apparently he wants to be a bigger part of the offense. I think he just wants to get away from the Clippers owner. Lol

LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't impressed with the Lakers presentation. I guess the Lakers spent too much time talking about the benefits of being in the city of LA and not enough time on why they can win with him.

Phoenix signed Tyson Chandler and that move may have made signing Aldridge a better possibility. The Spurs traded Splitter to make room for Aldridge and I'm guessing that's where he will be going.

Grizzlies signed ex Warrior Brandon Wright and that should be a good fit. They still need some outside shooting.

Oh, and Khris Middleton signed with the Bucks at 5 years for $70 million!! Wow!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

didn't think he would leave the Clippers but apparently he wants to be a bigger part of the offense. I think he just wants to get away from the Clippers owner. Lol

Are you talking about the old owner or Ballmer? I always thought Ballmer would be a good owner. I'd be surprised a bit if he isn't working out as a good one. except maybe too over the top.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Are you talking about the old owner or Ballmer? I always thought Ballmer would be a good owner. I'd be surprised a bit if he isn't working out as a good one. except maybe too over the top.

Ballmer. He's a good guy, just kind of embarrassing for the players I bet when he starts crying and yes, being over the top.

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Ballmer. He's a good guy, just kind of embarrassing for the players I bet when he starts cring and yes, being over the top.

Agreed. But I also think that if any owner is ever going to bring a title to the Clippers, it's going to be a guy like Ballmer.

IMO Jordan would be wise to resign with the Clippers for a max 2 year deal with a player option for the 2nd year and spend all summer working on his free throw shooting. Even if he could shoot 65% to 70% from the line over the next year or 2, he'd be set up for a max money, max years deal under the expanded salary cap. And I think the Clipps have 1 or 2 more good years in them before they'll have to entertain rebuilding.
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  So Jordan signs with Dallas. Cuban says he will be the main guy for the Mavs for years to come. We'll see, but I'm not convinced he is the type of player to carry and lead a team. He does put up some amazing numbers though and is definitely a defensive player to build around.
  
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Ballmer. He's a good guy, just kind of embarrassing for the players I bet when he starts crying and yes, being over the top.

Crying??? LOL.....I need video please

I saw the dancing and that was freaky enough but didn't know he was a weeper
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  Crying??? LOL.....I need video please
  
  I saw the dancing and that was freaky enough but didn't know he was a weeper
  
  Yep. Just out and out crying. I'll find it later. Hell, I think it's in this thread somewhere.
  
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  In Smoky Mountains here for Summer Vacation. So I have not been here for awhile. But had to come on here as I saw where my Spurs got Aldridge.
  
  Lakers really dropped the ball on this on.
  
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  Lakers really dropped the ball on this on.
  
  We will be coming for you, Tim
  
  The Lakers never really had a shot.
  
  Bring in on, Spurs!!
  
  The top four teams in the western conference next year: Dubs, Spurs, the Thunder and.... I'm going with the Pelicans. But damn, Houston, Dallas and Memphis should be right up there too battling for the 4th spot. Clippers are going to miss Jordan. Portland is going to struggle. Phoenix will make the playoffs but aren't there yet to challenge the top teams. Great competition!
  
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  The Lakers never really had a shot.
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Draft day today and there's a lot of rumors going around regarding trades and free agency. This draft is loaded with talent.

Regarding free agency, I just saw a headline on HP saying "Oh My God, the Lakers could get DeMarcus and LaMarcus this Summer?" TL would love that, but it won't happen because my curse is still in place. LaMarcus seems more likely to go to the Spurs which would make Robert happy I think.

I can't believe the Kings would trade Cousins though, even if Karl doesn't like him.

Another rumor has my Dubs trying to move up in the draft.

Yeah Tim, but I thought last time I heard he was leaning towards Mavs ?

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Yeah Tim, but I thought last time I heard he was leaning towards Mavs ?

Who knows for sure, but the Huffington post article said the Lakers passed the Mavs but are still behind the Spurs as choices Aldridge prefers.
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9 years ago

Green is young. Young men sometimes do stupid stuff. Especially when you get a fair amount of booze in them. I hardly think it's fair to demonize him for life. He's probably one of my least favorite guys on the Warriors too, but dang I love to watch the dude play. Hopefully he matures and loses some of the extra "stuff" without losing his competitive spirit.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Green is young. Young men sometimes do stupid stuff. Especially when you get a fair amount of booze in them. I hardly think it's fair to demonize him for life. He's probably one of my least favorite guys on the Warriors too, but dang I love to watch the dude play. Hopefully he matures and loses some of the extra "stuff" without losing his competitive spirit.

I love watching him play too. Nobody out hustles him and his basketball iq is off the charts. He just keeps improving his game too as does Curry, Thompson, Barnes... A lot of hard work in the off season.

I read a story about Green's freshman year at Michigan. From day one he was running practices. Lol. He's that type of leader. With the Warriors he would ask Kerr to call a timeout so he could yell at his teammates when they weren't playing well. He even yelled at Kerr several times during the year and Kerr yelled back at him. Then a few minutes later Green would apologize.

Hey, everyone loves Draymond, except Robert, Lebron, Griffin and Barkley. Lol

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9 years ago

My Lakers pick up 3 good prospects in yesterday's NBA draft.

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

My Lakers pick up 3 good prospects in yesterday's NBA draft.

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Yes, that Russell could be a great one! Hopefully Kobe let's him handle the ball once in a while. Lol
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  Yes, that Russell could be a great one! Hopefully Kobe let's him handle the ball once in a while. Lol
  
  too true but hey paid him his money when he was injured thereby showing respect. Sometime this season its time for him to accept reality if he can't make it back to form and take a mentoring role as he gets ready to retire. He's had a great run. In his prime I still rate him ahead of James and only behind Jordan (James game is mostly bulling his way to the basket not the artistry of Jordan and Kobe) but there are signs his ego has hurt the team in recent years.
  
  One of his legacies should be giving Russel a good shot at being an all star (playing off him and teaching him) and theres no way draftees should have to cower in fear because of a joke made years ago
  
  Lakers draft pick in hot water for tweet mocking Kobe Bryant over sex assault case | Fox News.
  
  Kobe should always be given the respect he deserves but he's no longer at the point where he should have the kind of power he had before or hog the ball and hamper the future of the Lakers
  
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XenG

9 years ago

Aldridge -> Spurs : I like this signing. I hope the spurs get to the finals next season. I believe that would be Timmy's last, and maybe Manu's.

I am a laker fan and it was tough losing Aldridge. But choosing Spurs over LA is a no brainer, obviously.

I like the recent signings though - > Lou Williams, Hibbert, and Bass.

I have always dreamed of having Hibbert on the team, well, until his game have gone terribly out of the window. But, I'm hoping he'll do better. I think the talent is there, I'm not sure with the attitude though. Nevertheless, we laker fans hope for the best for the team.

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Lance K 9 years ago

Originally Posted by XenG

I am a laker fan and it was tough losing Aldridge. But choosing Spurs over LA is a no brainer, obviously.

Agreed. The only way a top free agent is going to the Lakers is if they're a game changing mega-star (which Aldridge isn't). Even then, a guy like Shaq isn't going to go to LA unless they think they're the final piece that puts a contender over the top.
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- Lance K 9 years ago
  
  How about David West leaving 10-11 million on the table to join the Spurs. If everyone stays healthy, it may be a brilliant move. If not, well. Better than spending the rest of your life wondering "what if" I suppose. Especially when you consider the amount of money he has already made during his NBA career.
  
  But I must say I find it slightly surprising considering Golden State & Cleveland both offered more money. I do think he'll probably fit in the best in San Antonio though.
  
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  TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  DeAndre Jordan is meeting today with Ballmer, Rivers and a bunch of Clipper players. Apparently he might change his mind. Cuban is going to be so pissed if he does. Lol
  
  Lance, I get West wanting to have a shot to win a Championship, but not sure why he would turn down more money from the Warriors, if that actually happened.
  
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  Lance K 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Lance, I get West wanting to have a shot to win a Championship, but not sure why he would turn down more money from the Warriors, if that actually happened.
  
  I think it was on ESPN. Heard the Cavs, Warriors, and one other team all offered him more money. I don't get it either. Maybe he feels he wouldn't have as big of a roll on those other teams.
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

Two young teams to watch out for in a year or two are Minnesota and Milwaukee. They both looked stacked.

And I only have two words for my Nuggets' results in free agency:
Go Broncos!