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10 years ago

We have the same problem here. generations of families are being raised on welfare and GVNT support.

I would love to be in a position where I can offer a way out off welfare dependecy

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Joe Mobley 10 years ago

You misunderstand, they do not want a way off welfare. In fact, their attitude is that they should be paid more.

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I would love to be in a position where I can offer a way out off welfare dependecy

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Better get paid now because it's not happening with Social Security when retirement rolls around.

Ask that social worker how much they'll be collecting when they reach the age to collect SS. It will be pennies on the dollar that they paid into SS over an entire work lifetime.

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10 years ago

They don't care.
They act like they do.

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Sad as it is but being here, that news isn't even remotely shocking.

Benefits couple claiming £30,000 for 11 children have ANOTHER on the way | Mail Online

Incredibly here the more kids you have the more you get and they wonder why it's got so bad.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Sad as it is but being here, that news isn't even remotely shocking.

Benefits couple claiming £30,000 for 11 children have ANOTHER on the way | Mail Online

Incredibly here the more kids you have the more you get and they wonder why it's got so bad.

Last I knew, they PAID people here, that are on public assistance, about $50/month for each kid they had! FURTHER, their allowance for many things on welfare goes up for EACH kid! Of course, they can go to a hospital and have a kid for NOTHING! MEANWHILE, for others, it cost over $10,000 per kid!

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HeySal

10 years ago

A second child on welfare - nice. In the US we have women that are having 6, 8, 10 kids on welfare. That's why when I say "forced sterilization" I don't call it fascist. I call it stopping cows from over-breeding the herd into extinction.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

A second child on welfare - nice. In the US we have women that are having 6, 8, 10 kids on welfare. That's why when I say "forced sterilization" I don't call it fascist. I call it stopping cows from over-breeding the herd into extinction.

Yes, churning out children apart from being crippled for life seems to be the only way to get money from the gov, without any gov, tricks?

Welfare in AU, is getting harsher and harsher, and will probably lead to under 30 year old,s resorting to crime, by next financial year?

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

A second child on welfare - nice. In the US we have women that are having 6, 8, 10 kids on welfare. That's why when I say "forced sterilization" I don't call it fascist. I call it stopping cows from over-breeding the herd into extinction.

I think this idea is perfectly reasonable, and don't understand why anyone would think otherwise.

(Added later; I'm Joking! The idea is insane.)

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Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

A second child on welfare - nice. In the US we have women that are having 6, 8, 10 kids on welfare. That's why when I say "forced sterilization" I don't call it fascist. I call it stopping cows from over-breeding the herd into extinction.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...elds/2127.html
The average number of children per woman in the US is 2.1. 4.1% of the population is on welfare. 19% of them are off welfare within 7 months.

Forced sterilization ... this is the United States - not China.

EDIT: LOL ... read the story.

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Rather have some of my taxes spent on the royal family than spend a single penny funding the lifestyle of some dirty slapper like Kim Kardashian that's only interested in her own massive ego, and similar worthless "celebrities".

Since when have your taxes gone to supporting Kim Kardashian or any other celebrity? lol

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Lance K

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...elds/2127.html
The average number of children per woman in the US is 2.1. 4.1% of the population is on welfare. 19% of them are off welfare within 7 months.

Doesn't change the fact that's it's insanely irresponsible to have more children while on welfare.

Yes I read the story, just a comment about the issue in general.

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Doesn't change the fact that's it's insanely irresponsible to have more children while on welfare.

Yes I read the story, just a comment about the issue in general.

It's insanely irresponsible to do a lot of things while on welfare. How about eating ice cream? Or buying pot? Or renting a movie? Or even having a TV? So, let's just kill them all. I personally don't sweat the amount of my taxes that go to welfare recipients. If not there, it'll be blown somewhere else.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

It's insanely irresponsible to do a lot of things while on welfare. How about eating ice cream? Or buying pot? Or renting a movie? Or even having a TV? So, let's just kill them all. I personally don't sweat the amount of my taxes that go to welfare recipients. If not there, it'll be blown somewhere else.

Yeah, sorry. I was distracted while replying to your comment. In doing so, I found a correlation that wasn't there. My bad.

That said. I agree with you about not sweating the welfare deal. I wouldn't trade places with them for anything. Even the ones who are gaming the system and think they have it made.

I just feel sorry for the kids raised in that environment. Hopefully they'll discover what amazing opportunities there are in the world and find a way to prosper.

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Originally Posted by Lance K

Yeah, sorry. I was distracted while replying to your comment. In doing so, I found a correlation that wasn't there. My bad.

That said. I agree with you about not sweating the welfare deal. I wouldn't trade places with them for anything. Even the ones who are gaming the system and think they have it made.

I just feel sorry for the kids raised in that environment. Hopefully they'll discover what amazing opportunities there are in the world and find a way to prosper.

I do too, and I wouldn't want the kids punished (as in going without food and necessities) because parents make bad decisions. The thing about taxes is ... they take the same percent no matter what kind of stupid shit they spend it on. I feel better about it going on someone's dinner table or for clothing on children's backs or school supplies and books than I do for most of the stuff the government spends my money on. Kids don't make family planning decisions or any other decisions. They just suffer the consequences for either bad decisions or circumstances gone completely bad for a family like job loss or sudden illness or diability, etc.

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Lance K

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I do too, and I wouldn't want the kids punished (as in going without food and necessities) because parents make bad decisions. The thing about taxes is ... they take the same percent no matter what kind of stupid shit they spend it on. I feel better about it going on someone's dinner table or for clothing on children's backs or school supplies and books than I do for most of the stuff the government spends my money on. Kids don't make family planning decisions or any other decisions. They just suffer the consequences for either bad decisions or circumstances gone completely bad for a family like job loss or sudden illness or diability, etc.

Exactly. And it's not like welfare recipients are sticking the money into savings or investments. They're consumers. The money's going right back into the system one way or another.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Yeah, sorry. I was distracted while replying to your comment. In doing so, I found a correlation that wasn't there. My bad.

That said. I agree with you about not sweating the welfare deal. I wouldn't trade places with them for anything. Even the ones who are gaming the system and think they have it made.

I just feel sorry for the kids raised in that environment. Hopefully they'll discover what amazing opportunities there are in the world and find a way to prosper.

I think if anyone looked closely, the number of those gaming the system is miniscule.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

It's insanely irresponsible to do a lot of things while on welfare. How about eating ice cream? Or buying pot? Or renting a movie? Or even having a TV? So, let's just kill them all. .

Suzanne; I think that may be a little extreme. Sure, sterilize the mom...that just makes sense. But kill them all? I think that's just taking it a tad too far.

Unless you could do it wholesale. Then it just makes sense.

(all my posts in this thread are a joke. I was.....just...kidding! I don't really think sterilizing or killing people is the answer)

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

It's insanely irresponsible to do a lot of things while on welfare. How about eating ice cream? Or buying pot? Or renting a movie? Or even having a TV? So, let's just kill them all. I personally don't sweat the amount of my taxes that go to welfare recipients. If not there, it'll be blown somewhere else.

I agree.

With regular welfare, at least the recipients are using the money to actually have a place to live and to eat and most if not all of the money goes right back into our economy whereas with the corporate welfare, it's just extra gravy on top of their profits that doesn't go back into the general economy and just pads their ready cash reserves and/or helps them play dangerous games with the investment markets.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I agree.

With regular welfare, at least the recipients are using the money to actually have a place to live and to eat and most if not all of the money goes right back into our economy whereas with the corporate welfare, it's just extra gravy on top of their profits that doesn't go back into the general economy and just pads their ready cash reserves and/or helps them play dangerous games with the investment markets.

A LOT of what you guys call "corporate welfare" is things like tax benefits. NOT the same thing. BESIDES, most people are PAID by such companies.

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TLTheLiberator 10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

A LOT of what you guys call "corporate welfare" is things like tax benefits. NOT the same thing. BESIDES, most people are PAID by such companies.

Steve

And a lot of what people call corporate welfare is just that.
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Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

A LOT of what you guys call "corporate welfare" is things like tax benefits. NOT the same thing. BESIDES, most people are PAID by such companies.

Steve

OH, except for the banks and huge companies that got "bailouts" (welfare on the taxpayer's dime on a grand scale) because they were too big to fail. Not only did they receive money that they had not earned, they spent a big portion of it giving themselves huge bonuses and remodeling their offices and other extravagant expenditures. They can allow pure greed to run their companies into the ground and then just get a great big ole handout without anyone suggesting that they should be sterilized or some other ridiculously fascist statement.

But let some money go to poor people, poor children, poor families to feed and clothe children and some "good" people think that surgery is the answer.

At the end of the day, those bankers would tank this economy all over again to line their pockets with wealth, thereby creating yet another recession or even worse, a depression and creating the very poor that no thinks needs a helping hand.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

OH, except for the banks and huge companies that got "bailouts" (welfare on the taxpayer's dime on a grand scale) because they were too big to fail. Not only did they receive money that they had not earned, they spent a big portion of it giving themselves huge bonuses and remodeling their offices and other extravagant expenditures.

They can allow pure greed to run their companies into the ground and then just get a great big ole handout without anyone suggesting that they should be sterilized or some other ridiculously fascist statement.

But let some money go to poor people, poor children, poor families to feed and clothe children and some "good" people think that surgery is the answer.

At the end of the day, those bankers would tank this economy all over again to line their pockets with wealth, thereby creating yet another recession or even worse, a depression and creating the very poor that no thinks needs a helping hand.

I hear you.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

OH, except for the banks and huge companies that got "bailouts" (welfare on the taxpayer's dime on a grand scale) because they were too big to fail. Not only did they receive money that they had not earned, they spent a big portion of it giving themselves huge bonuses and remodeling their offices and other extravagant expenditures. They can allow pure greed to run their companies into the ground and then just get a great big ole handout without anyone suggesting that they should be sterilized or some other ridiculously fascist statement.

But let some money go to poor people, poor children, poor families to feed and clothe children and some "good" people think that surgery is the answer.

At the end of the day, those bankers would tank this economy all over again to line their pockets with wealth, thereby creating yet another recession or even worse, a depression and creating the very poor that no thinks needs a helping hand.

Well, that was illegal in ANYONE'S books, except the current admin. That wasn't the normal way of doing things. It shouldn't have gone to "the poor" EITHER! That money NEVER EXISTED! "The FED" COUNTERFEITED it and, in doing that act that is EVERY BIT as illegal as if you or I did it, it was STOLEN from the country that is SUPPOSED to be the US.

Most people that "owe" the money HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN BORN YET!

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Originally Posted by AaronJones

Off the top of my head, it costs tax payer money to have the police dedicating manpower and resources whenever these people want to make a public attention grabbing scene or event.

Girls who idolize these celebrities end up being the welfare moms and society supports them.

Yeah ... I see your point. I'd much rather the police do what they normally do and shoot down unarmed citizens or drive tanks through the city and arrest journalists at McDonald's ... stuff like that.

Your citation on the girls who idolize celebrities ending up welfare mothers would be greatly appreciated. I know there's a believable study on it somewhere.

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Originally Posted by AaronJones

Girls who idolize these celebrities end up being the welfare moms and society supports them.

Do you have proof of this?

Or are you just making shit up to suit your prejudices?
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  Originally Posted by whateverpedia
  
  Do you have proof of this?
  
  Or are you just making shit up to suit your prejudices?
  
  I think he wants us to go to Quantcast and target and identify stuff for him (to substantiate his unQuantcasted allegations.
  
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  lanfear63 10 years ago
  
  Now, can we seriously get down to solving the problem. Namely, male castration and the sewing up of the Vaggie.
  
  It's the only answer!
  
  In the UK we are having real problems with people trying to come here from the Eastern European Union who have heard about the amazing welfare system we have. Now, the government it trying to throttle it back a lot, it's getting too expensive and had gone too far. You could be better off with a few kids in terms of accommodation, hand-outs etc than if you had been working.
  
  It should be a safety net to help you get by, nothing more. If it gives too much then it just encourages people to be lazy and not fend for themselves, make an effort. The handout is expected and taken for granted.
  
  I was reading recently about the radical welfare system in Chicago. Chicago is not very prosperous these days and was strong on it's welfare. Only half the population were paying their electric bills for years (and this is recent). So, the half that were paying were forking out ever more to subsidize the half that were not as well as the city getting deeper into debt subsidizing the whole thing. They never actually cut the non payers off. Recently someone said this cant go on and sent them out letters saying if they did not pay their current bill and then from their on they would be cut off on a certain date, guess what, all but a few percent paid up! The remainder who genuinely could not pay were helped by welfare.
  
  Too late though, is not Chicago more or less bankrupt.
  
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  Originally Posted by lanfear63
  
  Now, can we seriously get down to solving the problem. Namely, male castration and the sewing up of the Vaggie.
  
  It's the only answer!
  
  Don't be an idiot! How would women go poo?
  
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Cali16 10 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

Girls who idolize these celebrities end up being the welfare moms and society supports them.

You won't justify this or provide some sort of evidence to back it up because there isn't any. Lots of girls (and boys) grow up idolizing celebrities and turn out just fine - educated, self-sufficient, upstanding contributors to society. And some even become celebrities themselves. Let's see... Kristi Yamaguchi idolized Dorothy Hamill while growing up, and I'm pretty sure she's not living on welfare...
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Mikaedi

10 years ago

It's the kids that lose out in the end

@HeySal. forced sterilization should only be for Woman that abuse and neglect their kids as a way of life..of course men that abuse kids as well should be fixed where they are unable to have their perverted desires.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mikaedi

It's the kids that lose out in the end

@HeySal. forced sterilization should only be for Woman that abuse and neglect their kids as a way of life..of course men that abuse kids as well should be fixed where they are unable to have their perverted desires.

Why do you say only MEN should be held to that standard? And having a kid you can't provide for ********IS******* abuse and neglect!

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Jacqueline Smith

10 years ago

Did anyone actually click on the link to read the full story?

I did....LOL.

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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith

Did anyone actually click on the link to read the full story?

Apparently not.
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  Apparently not.
  
  Hats off, I fell hook line and sinker into that.
  
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  Hats off, I fell hook line and sinker into that.
  
  I very nearly did: it was just the fact that Whateverpedia had posted it that made me think it couldn't possibly be what it sounded like from the title.
  
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith

Did anyone actually click on the link to read the full story?

I did....LOL.

Ha ha - not being from there - and not really caring about all the news stories written about them - I almost didn't recognize them. I was scrolling up and down going "what - I don't get it"

Funny.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Ha ha - not being from there - and not really caring about all the news stories written about them - I almost didn't recognize them. I was scrolling up and down going "what - I don't get it"

Funny.

I at least recognized they were famous, and THOUGHT about king george, etc... I wanted to make sure, and hoped the URL of the picture would give a clue. It said: royal-family2-620x400.jpg DEAD GIVEAWAY!

BTW I know a little about a few royal families, etc... but it is NOT because I have ANY interest in them. Most americans with the level of interest I have, or less, wouldn't even CONSIDER this.

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith

Did anyone actually click on the link to read the full story?

I did....LOL.

Yes, such a pitiful looking couple. And that poor baby looks malnourished. Maybe Grandma will help them out...
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seasoned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith

Did anyone actually click on the link to read the full story?

I did....LOL.

SO WHAT! Who does that guy think he is? The KING OF ENGLAND? And YEAH, they DO kind of rely on welfare!

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10 years ago

I did but choose not to comment. I am against monarchy of any type anyway.

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10 years ago

Rather have some of my taxes spent on the royal family than spend a single penny funding the lifestyle of some dirty slapper like Kim Kardashian that's only interested in her own massive ego, and similar worthless "celebrities".

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TLTheLiberator

10 years ago

That was funny.

Doesn't the royal fam bring a whole lot more money into GB than is spent on their upkeep etc.?

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Yep, l clicked on the link, and understand the gag image, but l thought the article was serious, though!

Especially when l overheard a tv news report, saying, something like "breaking news..." at this point l thought, World War 3, or they finally said something about Martian water, but no, just some crap about the Royals having more children!

I swear if we do have the big one, it will be a small image on page one, of the newspaper, and a full page article about this crap or Football, (we are getting Football rammed down our throats at present), at least in Victoria, AU!
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Richard Van 10 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

That was funny.

Doesn't the royal fam bring a whole lot more money into GB than is spent on their upkeep etc.?

Yes they do, considerably more. In fact I don't think saying they're on welfare/government handouts is strictly true, the Queen owns Balmoral castle and has personal fortune of around £1.9 billion.
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  Williams brother was on the news last night and he thinks it's hysterical. I guess old Will is a nervous father with his son and his brother thinks having another will put him over the top. He said something to the effect that if they have a girl it will be really funny to watch his brother.
  
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seasoned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

That was funny.

Doesn't the royal fam bring a whole lot more money into GB than is spent on their upkeep etc.?

Who knows, but the income of tourism is NOT income-(advertising expense). It is income-(advertising expense+public transport+other housing+other crime+other delays, etc....).

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alistair

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Since when have your taxes gone to supporting Kim Kardashian or any other celebrity? lol

Never, as far as I'm aware. I said spend a single penny funding her lifestyle, as in buying any of whatever it is she sells.

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Banned 10 years ago

This thread/subject is silly considering most of the worlds population was unplanned births & I'm 87% sure that includes the majority of people in this thread.

That's some Hitler talk going on about sterilizing people over a few tax dollars per person.

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Well, we got up to post #30 before anyone mentioned Hitler, anyway: that must say something about the thread?
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Lance K

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

This thread/subject is silly considering most of the worlds population was unplanned births & I'm 87% sure that includes the majority of people in this thread.

Right, but it doesn't take much effort to prevent pregnancy either. If you're not in a position to be accountable for the outcomes of your decisions, you should at least be expected to make an attempt at prevention.

You wouldn't go swimming in a lake without a lifejacket if you didn't know how to swim would you?

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Right, but it doesn't take much effort to prevent pregnancy either. If you're not in a position to be accountable for the outcomes of your decisions, you should at least be expected to make an attempt at prevention.

You wouldn't go swimming in a lake without a lifejacket if you didn't know how to swim would you?

Well, that's a whole nuther topic. I almost died from using an IUD and I could never take birth control pills, thereby eliminating the two most effective and easy types of birth control available at the time.

... but I just read that birth control other than condoms will be available for men by 2017.
Male Birth Control, Without Condoms, Will Be Here by 2017 - The Daily Beast for men who want to "monkey around" without becoming a parent ... lol. So far, only tested on baboons.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

This thread/subject is silly considering most of the worlds population was unplanned births & I'm 87% sure that includes the majority of people in this thread.

That's some Hitler talk going on about sterilizing people over a few tax dollars per person.

I can only assume I was wanted, since my mother apparently would have had another if, after having me, she safely could have. My father stayed with us until I was 2, and has ALWAYS been there for me. If I were in the hospital, or left virtually as an ORPHAN, as I was once, HE WAS THERE! When my aorta nearly blew up, he took me to my home, and got my medicine. Did I mention that he had to drop everything and take 2 planes on a cramped ~2000mile flight to do so? Still, if people that can afford kids have kids and take care of them, such as society is, who should care? It is ANOTHER THING ENTIRELY if they have a kid and want everyone else to pay for its substandard care!

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rondo

10 years ago

Prince William and Kate Middleton could barely afford to buy a caravan if they depended solely on their salaries, a high street bank reveals today.

Prince William and Kate Middleton could afford to buy 'just a caravan' - Telegraph

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by rondo

Prince William and Kate Middleton could barely afford to buy a caravan if they depended solely on their salaries, a high street bank reveals today.

Prince William and Kate Middleton could afford to buy 'just a caravan' - Telegraph

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Hi Andrew,

Nanny has Balmoral castle though, so they could easily bunk down there. She could also lend them a smidgen of her £1.9 billion fortune to see them over.

William and Harry also received £10,000,000 when they turned 30 of Diana's cash along with 150 objects currently on display at Althorp from various stages of her life.

So you see, Willy doesn't need a salary and he doesn't need his job in the RAF, he does it because he probably just wants to go to work to get away from the missus and live as close to a normal a life as he can.

That RAF salary incidentally is less than I earned in my last job.

Ps. The caravan referenced in that report is a 2 bed bungalow made from a converted mobile home which isn't technically a caravan and Windsor, well, that's one Mother of an expensive place to live. Besides, they'll have 2 kids soon so they'd do very nicely on the benefits handed out like sweets to the general population here and he could give that job up too!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Nanny has Balmoral castle though, so they could easily bunk down there.

Unless those Scots vote for independence, next week. Then they might suddenly need a visa, or who knows what? And will you be able to get a visa without a "steady job"? They might have border security like those Mexicans do, to stop all the Americans getting in ("just saying") ...

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Unless those Scots vote for independence, next week. Then they might suddenly need a visa, or who knows what? And will you be able to get a visa without a "steady job"? They might have border security like those Mexicans do, to stop all the Americans getting in ("just saying") ...

If they do, I'd imagine that the people of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, Durham, the Tyneside and Northumberland might want to join them.

DISCLAIMER: Despite being a dinky-di Aussie, I was actually born in Yorkshire. Halifax to be precise.

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

If they do, I'd imagine that the people of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, Durham, the Tyneside and Northumberland might want to join them.

DISCLAIMER: Despite being a dinky-di Aussie, I was actually born in Yorkshire. Halifax to be precise.

Actually much to peoples surprise those people actually call themselves English and don't want an independent state or to be a part of Scotland.

That being the case too, as you're from Halifax, you're descended from Anglo-Saxons, 2 Germanic tribes, so you, like me and the Royal family, have substantially more Germanic blood than you'd probably feel comfy with.

For the record, my entire Mums side of the family was from Halifax too, so we may even be related somewhere. I can trace that side of the family back to just after 1400.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

That being the case too, as you're from Halifax, you're descended from Anglo-Saxons, 2 Germanic tribes, so you, like me and the Royal family, have substantially more Germanic blood than you'd probably feel comfy with.

There's probably a bit of Roman in there as well, plus a bit of Viking, as well as a bit of whoever the original inhabitants were before all those bloody foreigners invaded.

For the record, my entire Mums side of the family was from Halifax too, so we may even be related somewhere.

Phew, that's a relief. I was worried that I might be related to Whitacre or Riffle.

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Unless those Scots vote for independence, next week. Then they might suddenly need a visa, or who knows what? And will you be able to get a visa without a "steady job"? They might have border security like those Mexicans do, to stop all the Americans getting in ("just saying") ...

Yes it'll be interesting to see what happens.

At least no one will be able to call me British anymore. Next week it may not even exist.

I'm personally buying all things with the Union Jack on it as that'll need scrapping too and I'll hand that down the family lines and they can sell it for a fortune in a 100 years or so.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

I'd imagine that the people of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, Durham, the Tyneside and Northumberland might want to join them.

All of those ... not to mention Cornwall (they've wanted independence for generations).

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

I was actually born in Yorkshire. Halifax to be precise.

I've heard of it. Up here, they generally call it "'Alifax".

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I'm personally buying all things with the Union Jack on it as that'll need scrapping too and I'll hand that down the family lines and they can sell it for a fortune in a 100 years or so.

Ooh, this is true: they'll need a new flag, too, without the Scottish bit in it (that's the blue part, isn't it?).

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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Up here, they generally call it "'Alifax".

Aye, our lass. I'm familiar with t'accent.

BTW - Whereabouts are you? I'd always imagined you to be from a bit closer to London.
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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Ooh, this is true: they'll need a new flag, too, without the Scottish bit in it (that's the blue part, isn't it?).

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I believe so yes, they'll probably just make that bit green to make the Welsh happy and pop a dragon in the corner.

The Cornish I believe have now been recognised as a separate race. The racist word for a Cornish person is now a "Pastie", after that rather tasty pie they make.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I believe so yes, they'll probably just make that bit green to make the Welsh happy and pop a dragon in the corner.

The Cornish I believe have now been recognised as a separate race. The racist word for a Cornish person is now a "Pastie", after that rather tasty pie they make.

I lived in Cornwall for 7 years, St Austell & St Stephen to be precise. The accent was country-fied, "Proper Job Me Handsome". Not a lot of work down their other than China Clay, a huge amount of people on welfare. Tourists were the other means of making money.

Cornwall is a peninsular so 24/7 crosswinds. I remember one day out of those 7 years the wind dropped. I was shocked. Could be a beautiful place to live in the summer but cold and windy a lot of the time.

It seemed like each village had to have, 2 food stores, 2 hairdressers, a Chinese takeaway, a fish a and chip shop, a tv repair place, 2 pubs, a village hall and a church. Otherwise it just was not worthy. Oh yes, you had to have 2 or three people living there as well.

Tourists or non Cornish people were called Emmits

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HeySal

10 years ago

I reacted to the subject line and didn't see the article.
Cute. Okay.
Still don't take back a word of what I said. You get pregnant on welfare and you need to be forceably sterilized. This may not be China yet, but you let women keep dropping as many kids as they want to get paid for, and we'll be at their numbers and into some irreversible social problems fast enough.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I reacted to the subject line and didn't see the article.
Cute. Okay.
Still don't take back a word of what I said. You get pregnant on welfare and you need to be forceably sterilized. This may not be China yet, but you let women keep dropping as many kids as they want to get paid for, and we'll be at their numbers and into some irreversible social problems fast enough.

EXACTLY!!!!! In an article yesterday, they spoke of how the temperature didn't go up in like 18 years, but the CO2 HAS. ********DUH********! Want to know WHY? We have SEASONS that control a lot of the weather, and it varies. Will gases change it? SURE! But not so appreciably. After all, we have climates at two VERY different extremes when the CO2 is relatively low. AND, CO2, being a GAS, is in various places at those extremes.

So WHY do we have the extra CO2? Whether it is from cars or not, the idea it is from cars is DUMB! The CO2 from cars has DROPPED!!!!!!! The REAL reason is HUMAN POPULATION! WHY? Well, each human needs air, food, and a place to be, so you not only have to account for THEM, but animals to eat, plants to eat, and a place to stay, infrastructure to move, etc... And YES, eventually CARS! So it is NOT the fact that cars put out CO2, it is that there are SO many of them. You could cut the CO2 to a TENTH, per person, and you would STILL have the problem. You could run the cars on ELECTRICITY, and we still have to contend with how it is generated. Heck, many are getting rid of nuclear. India and pakistan are apparently near WAR because of a dispute involving hydroelectric! Solar and Wind take up extra land.

And the resources needed are MASSIVE! Just go to a SMALL town and look at the streets, telephone poles, etc.... In places like New york city, they can't even sustain HALF the population of the city, so they build massive skyscrapers, and though a LOT of people drive apparently MOST do things like take the subway, under ground for a lot of the time. All that means fewer plants generating a lot of oxygen, and more creatures creating CO2.

But it is interesting how few people talk about this.

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I reacted to the subject line and didn't see the article.
Cute. Okay.
Still don't take back a word of what I said. You get pregnant on welfare and you need to be forceably sterilized. This may not be China yet, but you let women keep dropping as many kids as they want to get paid for, and we'll be at their numbers and into some irreversible social problems fast enough.

I see. So you do support fascism in spite of all your railing against it, especially when it supports your radical remedies to a social problem.

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TLTheLiberator

10 years ago

When the British gov needed money to fight WW1 the royal family loaned them a lot of it in exchange for the money being paid back along with a nice bonus - the royal family did not have to pay any income taxes going forward.

This went on until I think the mid 1990s when the public heard about it and were outraged.

BTW...

During WW1 most of the family had a German last name - since Queen Victoria's husband Prince Albert was a German but changed it to a more English name - Windsor.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/Historyofthe...ofWindsor.aspx

I doubt we'll ever see a new dynasty for the British royals for a long, long time if any.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/Historyofthe...eMonarchy.aspx

I personally don't have a problem with a monarchy as long as its all ceremonial and they don't have any real political power.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

When the British gov needed money to fight WW1 the royal family loaned them a lot of it in exchange for the money being paid back and a nice bonus - the royal family did not have to pay any income taxes going forward.

This went on until I think the mid 1990s when the public heard about it and were outraged.

Coincidentally, Britain didn't make its final payment to the US for money borrowed to pay for WWII until 2008.

During WW1 most of the family had a German last name - since Queen Victoria's husband Prince Albert was a German but changed it to a more English name - Windsor.

Yep, their real family name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

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Mikaedi

9 years ago

Haha, I fell for that one..here we were taliking about irresponsible parents having more kids being supported on welfare! yet the article was actually on the royal couple Will and Kate..

I'm no Monarchist, but the article is a bit stupid really, as they aren't benefit cheats ripping off the system.

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ThomM

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mikaedi

Haha, I fell for that one..here we were taliking about irresponsible parents having more kids being supported on welfare! yet the article was actually on the royal couple Will and Kate..

I'm no Monarchist, but the article is a bit stupid really, as they aren't benefit cheats ripping off the system.

Mikaedi

Here you go Sir.
British Man With 26 Children Wants Larger Home From Local Government

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Mikaedi 9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

Here you go Sir.
British Man With 26 Children Wants Larger Home From Local Government

Wow,he needs to go on a diet.. and be forced not to have any more kids as he looks as though he could be a drain on the health system as well.

As to the home he wants.friggin cheek really..typical English system will probably give him one as well.
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  typical English system will probably give him one as well.
  
  Not so much, I think ... state benefits are increasingly "capped", here, at the moment.
  
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