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WillR

10 years ago

My first question would be... why on earth the US?!

Have you watched the news lately

At least go Australia. You'll love it here.

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MDSOPerandi 10 years ago

Yeah; Australia is awesome Seriously though you will need some sort of skilled visa to get into most places - What's your experience / education?
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  Yeah; Australia is awesome Seriously though you will need some sort of skilled visa to get into most places - What's your experience / education?
  
  I am science graduate from Delhi University, India, having 2 years of experience working in Digital marketing profile. Beside this I am a blogger, content writer, and I have a very good command over MS Excel. So with these skills and experience, how can set my goal to see myself working in US, UK or Australia.
  
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  rudi 10 years ago
  
  Forget the UK, its too damn cold!
  Australia are hard to get into but it is possible if you can prove to immigration that you are self sufficient and wont be a drain on the government.
  
  The US is equally as hard, I lived and worked out there for 5 years but I love the place. Again if you can prove you are self sufficient they generally allow you in because at the end of the day the more money you make the more they do from the tax.
  
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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

At least go Australia. You'll love it here.

Just don't come by boat.
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Tom Addams

10 years ago

I've been an expat for quite a number of years; though not at the moment. Moved back to my home country to offer assistance to my parents, who aren't so well.

I suggest you begin researching entry requirements to those countries. I'm not sure any of them are perfect, but I can see the appeal for you. Oh, and ignore the Australia advice. Be a great country if not for the damn Aussies! (jk)

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Brent Stangel

10 years ago

why on earth the US?!

I also wonder why so many people are risking their lives and the lives of their families to get here.

At least go Australia.

I agree 100%! They are the world leader in...

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WillR

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

US is the last country in my priority list if I will be given top 10 choices. The first is my native country of course... We are talking about living and not just visiting.

Ask retired Americans who are living abroad why they left US and they will surely tell you the same thing "for good".

Too true!

Originally Posted by Brent Stangel

I agree 100%! They are the world leader in...

Have a look at this list:
World's most liveable cities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first time the USA shows it's face is at number 23.

Ha!

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Originally Posted by Brent Stangel

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Adie

10 years ago

US is the last country in my priority list if I will be given top 10 choices. The first is my native country of course... We are talking about living and not just visiting.

Ask retired Americans who are living abroad why they left US and they will surely tell you the same thing "for good".

If I have enough money for my self, my family, and my future, I will not leave my country to live in another country. Yes, I can visit, but living - NO.

If living for a couple of months to a year, my first choice will be Japan, then South Korea, New Zealand, Canada, and other northern European Countries. I have been to Japan and US and although there is a big language problem in Japan, I still prefer it therethan the English speaking US.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

My first question would be... why on earth the US?!

Have you watched the news lately

At least go Australia. You'll love it here.

And Australia has no problems? News, by it's very nature, is a look at all the things that are wrong. The US has a lot of great things to offer, as I'm sure Australia does.

Originally Posted by Adie

Ask retired Americans who are living abroad why they left US and they will surely tell you the same thing "for good".

Ask anyone who has left their country and they will have reasons important to them. It's not just US ex-pats, it's all ex-pats.

I do hope you enjoyed insulting the US though. Feel better now?

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Tom B

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Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

And Australia has no problems? News, by it's very nature, is a look at all the things that are wrong. The US has a lot of great things to offer, as I'm sure Australia does.

Eh, I lived in Australia for years and I'm naturally a US citizen. They are more similar than different.

At least things are more affordable in the US. Australia is way too expensive now.

Both countries are good, though. People tend to make up their minds about places based on the news these days. If I thought the news represented reality I would never leave my house!

Every country has it's problems. As far as I'm concerned, the US is up there on places to live.

Ask anyone who has left their country and they will have reasons important to them. It's not just US ex-pats, it's all ex-pats.

I do hope you enjoyed insulting the US though. Feel better now?

When I lived overseas, I would avoid other expats. They tended to be the worst of America and/or whatever country they came from. For a lot of guys, it was more about running away from something. Then you got the old expats living in places like Thailand and Philippines simply because they can get young women there. Hardly people to be listening too, imo.

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I do hope you enjoyed insulting the US though. Feel better now?

My apology if that "sounds offensive" but I am not insulting US. I am talking based on reality.

What's Driving Americans to Retire Abroad? Money - or Lack of It - Knowledge@Wharton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora

Again, retired Americans are leaving US "for good" and there is nothing insulting about this statement. People have their own choices to make their life better, especially in the remaining years of their lives.

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Tom B

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Originally Posted by Adie

My apology if that "sounds offensive" but I am not insulting US. I am talking based on reality.

What's Driving Americans to Retire Abroad? Money - or Lack of It - Knowledge@Wharton

American diaspora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again, retired Americans are leaving US "for good" and there is nothing insulting about this statement. People have their own choices to make their life better, especially in the remaining years of their lives.

Reality is many people expat from many countries "for good". "For Good" may be what they plan on but many end up going back because it wasn't what they thought.

This isn't strictly a US phenomenon. There is a Phils forum I like to check out and plenty of Ozzies and British as well as Americans there.

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Reality is many people expat from many countries "for good". "For Good" may be what they plan on but many end up going back because it wasn't what they thought.

This isn't strictly a US phenomenon. There is a Phils forum I like to check out and plenty of Ozzies and British as well as Americans there.

Of course there is and that is not debatable.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

My apology if that "sounds offensive" but I am not insulting US. I am talking based on reality.

What's Driving Americans to Retire Abroad? Money - or Lack of It - Knowledge@Wharton

American diaspora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again, retired Americans are leaving US "for good" and there is nothing insulting about this statement. People have their own choices to make their life better, especially in the remaining years of their lives.

What sounds insulting is that you make it sound like it's a US phenomena when it's not. Not even close. Even after I pointed out it's ex-pats from any country, you post links about the US to back your first post.

Are you an ex-pat? Have you even been to the US?

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

What sounds insulting is that you make it sound like it's a US phenomena when it's not. Not even close. Even after I pointed out it's ex-pats from any country, you post links about the US to back your first post.

Are you an ex-pat? Have you even been to the US?

It looks like you are responding without even reading my very first post. This thread is al about someone from India who is planning to move to US to seek greener pasture. Do I need to mention Russia in my first post? ... and yes, I've been to US 4 times and the latest wast just last year, been to Japan for several times, Malaysia, Indonesia, and farthest was Chile, and Norway where all were company business (except US - family matters). Do I qualify now to speak?

Its your thinking that is insulting your self...

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

It looks like you are responding without even reading my very first post. This thread is al about someone from India who is planning to move to US to seek greener pasture. Do I need to mention Russia in my first post? ... and yes, I've been to US 4 times and the latest wast just last year, been to Japan for several times, Malaysia, Indonesia, and farthest was Chile, and Norway where all were company business (except US - family matters). Do I qualify now to speak?

Its your thinking that is insulting your self...

Of course I read your first post, I quoted part of it and commented about it. So I forgot the part where you said you visited the US but you'd rather be in Japan even though there's a BIG language problem for you. Yeah, anything but the US.

Look, you framed your comment to make it sound like ex-pats from the US want to get away "for good" because there's something terribly wrong here, when the same could generally be said of ex-pats from any country. I'm not pretending the US doesn't have problems, but ex-pats are ex-pats for a reason no matter what country they're from.

And now you make a comment about my thinking. Why are you making it personal? If you want to get personal, maybe it's you who isn't communicating what you mean very well.

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Originally Posted by Adie

It looks like you are responding without even reading my very first post. This thread is al about someone from India who is planning to move to US to seek greener pasture. Do I need to mention Russia in my first post? ... and yes, I've been to US 4 times and the latest wast just last year, been to Japan for several times, Malaysia, Indonesia, and farthest was Chile, and Norway where all were company business (except US - family matters). Do I qualify now to speak?

Its your thinking that is insulting your self...

Dennis is right. The way you framed it was specific to the US when every country has it's share of people leaving.

That was the reason you got my response as well.

Your whole argument was the US was really bad because people were leaving to go ex-pat "for good". To reframe your whole argument, we have more people wanting to come to the US than those leaving it.

You are being dishonest in your responses now.

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PerformanceMan

10 years ago

Complete jingoistic comments from the non-USA people.

F**k what you heard about the USA. This country still has it all. People are climbing over walls every day to get here.

Indians, in particular, do very well when they transplant themselves to the USA. There is a huge community of your fellow countrymen here. Look for specific information online that can help you with your goals. Always follow your dreams and you'll do great.

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by PerformanceMan

Complete jingoistic comments from the non-USA people.

F**k what you heard about the USA. This country still has it all. People are climbing over walls every day to get here.

Indians, in particular, do very well when they transplant themselves to the USA. There is a huge community of your fellow countrymen here. Look for specific information online that can help you with your goals. Always follow your dreams and you'll do great.

I agree but that applies only to people who are looking to feed their family back home. Philippines is one if not the world's leader in exporting labor force but I don't agree with the fate of Filipino people working abroad. This is just a result of our government's incompetence.

Why would I go there and clean other people's toilet if I can make my living here staying in my native rest house by the beach?

Ask a single Overseas Filipino Worker (OFW) if they want to work abroad doing all the dirty jobs if they can have a better living here (regardless of what country US,UK, CAN, AU included). The same answer you will hear. "I will go home someday whenever I have enough money to build a local business at home"... No one will tell you that he will stay because he love to clean other people's toilet...

I am an Internet marketer who is making money more than most OFWs are making abroad, and more than many Americans who are working 8 hours a day. Do I have any reason to live there? Visit yes, but live and work, no.

At the end of the day, people are not to blame, but the government.....

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seasoned

10 years ago

Originally Posted by PerformanceMan

Complete jingoistic comments from the non-USA people.

F**k what you heard about the USA. This country still has it all. People are climbing over walls every day to get here.

That is a NON SEQUITOR!!!!!!!! The ONLY people climbing over the fence are those from south america, or worse. Places like mexico are NOW where the US is HEADED! So why SHOULDN'T they want to do somethingas simple as walk over an IMAGINARY line!?!?!?!? They take that TINY walk and get:

1. FREE HEALTHCARE
2. FREE EDUCATION
3. WATER THAT IS DECENT
4. LESS DISEASE
5. MORE MONEY
6. Potentially ANOTHER citizenship
7. A WAY too lenient "justice" system
8. etc.... etc....

Indians, in particular, do very well when they transplant themselves to the USA. There is a huge community of your fellow countrymen here. Look for specific information online that can help you with your goals. Always follow your dreams and you'll do great.

Some Indians aren't necessarily much better than the mexicans. One INDIAN woman even told me she has to get used to THEIR water again everytime she goes back. They supposedly work 10 hour days 6 days a week, and so they work LESS here and get paid MUCH more. AGAIN, potentially dual citizenship. But indians tend to have a grueling itinerary to get here, and DON'T merely climb the fence.

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Tom B

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Originally Posted by seasoned

That is a NON SEQUITOR!!!!!!!! The ONLY people climbing over the fence are those from south america, or worse. Places like mexico are NOW where the US is HEADED! So why SHOULDN'T they want to do somethingas simple as walk over an IMAGINARY line!?!?!?!? They take that TINY walk and get:

Steve

Not all immigration is illegal Steve.

We have a good mix of legal immigration. Of course most illegals are from Central and South America since they are our neighbors.

2013 Legal Immigration

REGION
Total ................ 990,553
Africa ................ 98,304
Asia ................. 400,548
Europe ............... 86,556
North America .......... 315,660
Caribbean ............ 122,406
Central America ....... 44,724
Other North America .... 148,530
Oceania ............... 5,277
South America .......... 80,945
Unknown .............. 3,263

http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fil...pr_fr_2013.pdf

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seasoned

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Not all immigration is illegal Steve.

We have a good mix of legal immigration. Of course most illegals are from Central and South America since they are our neighbors.

2013 Legal Immigration

REGION
Total ................ 990,553
Africa ................ 98,304
Asia ................. 400,548
Europe ............... 86,556
North America .......... 315,660
Caribbean ............ 122,406
Central America ....... 44,724
Other North America .... 148,530
Oceania ............... 5,277
South America .......... 80,945
Unknown .............. 3,263

http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fil...pr_fr_2013.pdf

Did I EVER say all immigration was illegal? HECK NO! HECK, my great great great great grandfather,or however far back that goes came here legally. I check ancestry.com.

People coming from canada probably ORIGINALLY come here legally, but they don't climb over any fence. And most, that immigrate, probably do legally. But yeah, even some from MEXICO are legal. Certainly many from abroad.are legal.

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Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Of course most illegals are from Central and South America since they are our neighbors.

What about Canada? Did Canada move?

I don't see any Canadians standing in the US Home Depot parking lots.
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  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  What about Canada? Did Canada move?
  
  I don't see any Canadians standing in the US Home Depot parking lots.
  
  Are you trying to say the standard of living in Canada is the same as Mexico? I'm not following your point so please do explain with or without snark.
  
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  Are you trying to say the standard of living in Canada is the same as Mexico? I'm not following your point so please do explain with or without snark.
  
  Is Canada a neighboring country to the US? Based on your previous comment Canadians would also be illegals in the US.
  
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  Is Canada a neighboring country to the US? Based on your previous comment Canadians would also be illegals in the US.
  
  Ah, my bad. I thought I was having discussions with people that had reasoning skills.
  
  Yeah, you're right, Canada is a neighbor and because they have higher standards of living there wouldn't be many illegals. Not that I don't doubt many become illegal from overstaying.
  
  Compared to all the gypsy Romanians floating to the US on little paddle boats while pick pocketing each other just to stay in practice for when the arrive to the land of opportunity.
  
  We do have illegals from all over the world, not just Mexico.
  
  Oh, and just to be clear, Mexico's official language is Spanish.
  
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  OP comes back 9 months later to bump his own thread - with the same question?
  
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  I knew that someone will ask this, but I did not get my right answer in the last 9 months. I want know what are the job opportunities in Online Marketing, SEO in US, UK, Australia
  
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  I want know what are the job opportunities in Online Marketing, SEO in US, UK, Australia
  
  Becoming an engineer would be better than what you listed. I live close to Google, Apple, Facebook, etc... People come here from all over the world to get high paying jobs as engineers mostly, not doing seo work or online marketing.
  
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  I want know what are the job opportunities in Online Marketing, SEO in US, UK, Australia
  
  That makes about as much sense as fishing on the moon.
  
  You obviously have internet where you're at right now or you wouldn't have posted that silly comment looking for online marketing in other countries.
  
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  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  What about Canada? Did Canada move?
  
  I don't see any Canadians standing in the US Home Depot parking lots.
  
  Well, why would anyone leave Canada? It's all the beer and donuts you can eat up there.
  
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  Well, why would anyone leave Canada? It's all the beer and donuts you can eat up there.
  
  Cheaper cigs from my understanding. I think we should build a wall to save our smokers.
  
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  ewikk055 10 years ago
  
  It amazes me that the only people bashing the U.S. are the people that live in the U.S., talk about taking something like luxury and freedom for granted.
  
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  Originally Posted by ewikk055
  
  It amazes me that the only people bashing the U.S. are the people that live in the U.S., talk about taking something like luxury and freedom for granted.
  
  That's just a few ingrates.
  
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  Originally Posted by ewikk055
  
  It amazes me that the only people bashing the U.S. are the people that live in the U.S., talk about taking something like luxury and freedom for granted.
  
  The US became a great place because of people willing to talk about the problems so they can be fixed. Every country has problems. There isn't one perfect place.
  
  There are plenty of people who get upset when you talk about problems. I, for one, have no idea why they take this so personal. Maybe for them to not think about it means it never happened. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the problems go away.
  
  As I said before, not every country will fit your personality. It's best to find a place that gives you the quality of life that makes you the most happy. The US is great in a lot of regards but it also has a lot of bad stuff as well. If you don't get caught up in the bad stuff life is pretty darn good here.
  
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  In English "for good" is usually a phrase used to indicate "permanently". That could be part of the confusion.
  
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  Originally Posted by ewikk055
  
  It amazes me that the only people bashing the U.S. are the people that live in the U.S., talk about taking something like luxury and freedom for granted.
  
  I wasn't bashing the potential luxury available. I am WELL aware that a middle/middle class home in the US EVEN NOW could seem ostentatious to some. It IS shrinking though. In my lifetime, it has shrunk quite a bit. As for the freedom? It has shrunken a LOT! It has shrunken more in the past decade than perhaps the previous 100 years. It has shrunk more in the past 50 years than the previous 150!!!!!!! SERIOUSLY, it can NOT shrink much more!
  
  A couple has been ******ORDERED****** to provide FULL services for any homosexual couple, right down to forfeiting no less than HALF their home, and ALL remaining land! The last time they refused, they were fined $13,000!!!!!!
  
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  And this is just ONE of the later ones to be made public.
  
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  Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago
  
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  Nice explanation Steve. I said "for worse" because some people just don't admit that some people are leaving their country "for good".
  
  It seems we were getting our wires crossed. I took your words at their most common usage and apparently you didn't mean it the way it sounded to me. My apologies if you thought I was being too hard on you. All the bashing just gets old sometimes.
  
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salegurus

10 years ago

Yeah i agree, don't come to the US there is nothing here you'll like. Try Australia or UK they will accept you with open arms....

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Rick Rodd

10 years ago

I think what's best for people to do is repurpose their dreams. I'd like to think of myself as an innovator-- And wherever I am, I always think what my capabilities are and how I can make myself successful and give something back to society.

If your country doesn't appreciate you, why bother living there? It's much better if a foreign country adopts you and uses your talents to the fullest. So yeah, I support the OP of his decision. I wish all the best for him.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rick Rodd

I think what's best for people to do is repurpose their dreams. I'd like to think of myself as an innovator-- And wherever I am, I always think what my capabilities are and how I can make myself successful and give something back to society.

If your country doesn't appreciate you, why bother living there? It's much better if a foreign country adopts you and uses your talents to the fullest. So yeah, I support the OP of his decision. I wish all the best for him.

I agree with most of your statements but that bold one?

Assuming you are a Filipino, the government want you to go abroad not because they don't appreciate you. They want you to go there so that you can help them get money from overseas through remittances. While other country uses your talent, the Philippine government uses your money (unless you bring all of your family members there and never send any money to Philippines)

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Rick Rodd

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

I agree with most of your statements but that bold one?

Assuming you are a Filipino, the government want you to go abroad not because they don't appreciate you. They want you to go there so that you can help them get money from overseas through remittances. While other country uses your talent, the Philippine government uses your money (unless you bring all of your family members there and never send any money to Philippines)

You have a point there, but is it everybody's prime objective in life? We are still individuals and we are given a right to choose. Rather than bring someone down we should help them in their undertakings. That is what I'm merely saying.

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rick Rodd

You have a point there, but is it everybody's prime objective in life? We are still individuals and we are given a right to choose. Rather than bring someone down we should help them in their undertakings. That is what I'm merely saying.

Yeah I understand... but if our choice can ruin others, better think of plan B...

Most Americans today are against to people coming to US because they see this as a reason for a divided America in the near future. I am not an American but I am against other people going to America. I feel the sentiments of most Americans losing their jobs to immigrants. America don't need outside labor force anymore I think. Canada, Australia, New Zealand does....

I resigned from my job as a call center agent on 2008 when I realized that I was a part of that recession- because me and my country were stealing American jobs.... the same thing can happen when someone went to America... stealing American jobs.

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hardraysnight

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

Yeah I understand... but if our choice can ruin others, better think of plan B...

Most Americans today are against to people coming to US because they see this as a reason for a divided America in the near future. I am not an American but I am against other people going to America. I feel the sentiments of most Americans losing their jobs to immigrants. America don't need outside labor force anymore I think. Canada, Australia, New Zealand does....

you are an international authority on immigration

you think new zealand needs outside labour force

it seems few new zealanders agree with you but only one minor party has the gumption to make it into a significant election issue

governments tend to take a global view, the people take a realistic view

and i do know a little about phillippines. i had to relocate a business due to totally unacceptable demands of graft and corruption

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by hardraysnight

you are an international authority on immigration

you think new zealand needs outside labour force

At least the countries I mentioned still have lots of resources for immigrants.... and to my knowledge, there are around 600,000 New Zelanders every year that are migrating to Australia, and that is around 13% of their population. I think the government needs replacement. But if you don't like immigrants, I understand and I respect that belief as I have the same feelings if this happens to my country. As I mentioned above, I am against immigration.

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by hardraysnight

i would be keen to learn the source of your knowledge as it is at a distinct variance to a recent statement by the new zealand prime minister, but it seems you are knowledgeable than he

Found it on the 2012 printed issue of Grower. I have sister living in Christchurch who happened to brought a number of magazines when she visited home 2 years ago.

In fact according to this in 2012 there were only 550,000 Kiwi's in Australia and they will have been going there for donkeys years by that point. Are you sure that's no 60,000 a year?

My mistake,it's a typo. It's an estimated 60,000 according to the Grower

At 30 June 2013, an estimated 640 770 New Zealand citizens were present in Australia.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

At least the countries I mentioned still have lots of resources for immigrants.... and to my knowledge, there are around 600,000 New Zelanders every year that are migrating to Australia, and that is around 13% of their population. I think the government needs replacement. But if you don't like immigrants, I understand and I respect that belief as I have the same feelings if this happens to my country. As I mentioned above, I am against immigration.

i would be keen to learn the source of your knowledge as it is at a distinct variance to a recent statement by the new zealand prime minister, but it seems you are knowledgeable than he

but we have more important things to worry about than a few more immigrants. the all blacks play the springboks tomorrow. now that is important

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Originally Posted by Adie

and to my knowledge, there are around 600,000 New Zelanders every year that are migrating to Australia, and that is around 13% of their population.

Forgive me Adie but if 13% of New Zealand's population leave every year, there will be no one there assuming no new comers arrive in 7.7 years.

It's around 400 a day leaving the UK so that's around 146,000 a year and I know people are leaving in droves. I can't quite see how with a much smaller population over 4 times that are leaving NZ each year.

In fact according to this in 2012 there were only 550,000 Kiwi's in Australia and they will have been going there for donkeys years by that point. Are you sure that's not 60,000 a year?

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature...w-zealand/246/
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10 years ago

Immigration to the U.S. is easy. All you need to do is tell the border patrol that you're from Mexico and that you are dreaming of living in the U.S. They'll put you up in a motel or dormatorium for a couple of weeks, feed you, and help you find a job.

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Kay King

10 years ago

Immigration to the U.S. is easy. All you need to do is tell the border patrol that you're from Mexico and that you are dreaming of living in the U.S. They'll put you up in a motel or dormatorium for a couple of weeks, feed you, and help you find a job.

So true - they'll even provide transpotation to a different part of the country if you don't like the climate on the border.

I think it's interesting so many people are providing "info" about the U.S. though they don't live here.

Adie - I only know three Filipinos in this area - all own their own homes and have good paying jobs. Two of them were able to go back to school after being in the US for a few years and have improved their circumstances even more. Not everyone is a stereotype.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Adie - I only know three Filipinos in this area - all own their own homes and have good paying jobs. Two of them were able to go back to school after being in the US for a few years and have improved their circumstances even more. Not everyone is a stereotype.

Good for them finding their American dreams.

In general, this immigration thing is a loss-loss for both countries. The country of origin continue to lose its talents that can be utilized to improve the country domestically, while the host country continues to drop its unemployment rate because the population is increasing unnaturally while the resources is getting scarce.. It maybe beneficial to individuals but it may not in general.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Immigration to the U.S. is easy. All you need to do is tell the border patrol that you're from Mexico and that you are dreaming of living in the U.S. They'll put you up in a motel or dormatorium for a couple of weeks, feed you, and help you find a job.

Actually it's funny you say that. I've never quite understood the asylum claims here.

On the ports of Calais are camps full of Somalian and Eritrean men waiting to claim asylum in the UK. Well, and feel free to call me a bluff old traditionalist but can you not claim asylum in any number of the countries you pass through in Africa and right the way through Europe as soon as you step across the borders of the country you're desperate to flee?

No wait, that's right, we hand out benefits like sweets and the only people the UK have to blame for that is the UK government. Take away those sweets and I guarantee those camps in Calais will vanish.

If I was anyone abroad I'd come here to enjoy a nice life in a free house with no need to work while all those idiots with jobs pay for it.

At least you're connected to Mexico Steve, technically, as Britain is an island, the only people that could ever claim asylum here (in England anyway) are the Scots and the Welsh, or the French, Irish, Belgians or Dutch if they managed to get across by boat and I doubt very much there's ever been a claim from any of them.

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MDSOPerandi

10 years ago

I am science graduate from Delhi University, India, having 2 years of experience working in Digital marketing profile. Beside this I am a blogger, content writer, and I have a very good command over MS Excel. So with these skills and experience, how can set my goal to see myself working in US, UK or Australia.

The best place to start re Australia is the immigration website: Australian Government Department of Immigration and Border Protection

There's a visa "wizard" at the top right of the page which should help you

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Claude Whitacre 10 years ago

" I want to live and work in USA for good?"

I want to stay here in the USA...but for Evil.

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Adie

10 years ago

Your whole argument was the US was really bad because people were leaving to go ex-pat "for good"

So you mean Americans are leaving US "for worse"? Out of dozens, give me a "not for good" reason why an American leave US (except of course being assigned in a war zone).

Why can't people accept the reality instead of giving a lot of excuses and defense mechanisms? Superiority complex is alive and visible but I'm not buying it. Nobody want to leave his country if he is satisfied with his life.

Americans, Britons, Australians, Canadians, and other "first class people" living their country to find happiness in another country has no problem with their native countries.

People from third world countries leaving to work in "first class countries" has problems with their native countries.

You see the real discrimination? If that's what you think then so be it.. No one is being insulted and if you think it that way, I can do nothing.... end of my comments.

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Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

So you mean Americans are leaving US "for worse"? Out of dozens, give me a "not for good" reason why an American leave US (except of course being assigned in a war zone).

Why can't people accept the reality instead of giving a lot of excuses and defense mechanisms? Superiority complex is alive and visible but I'm not buying it. Nobody want to leave his country if he is satisfied with his life.

Americans, Britons, Australians, Canadians, and other "first class people" living their country to find happiness in another country has no problem with their native countries.

People from third world countries leaving to work in "first class countries" has problems with their native countries.

You see the real discrimination? If that's what you think then so be it.. No one is being insulted and if you think it that way, I can do nothing.... end of my comments.

That wasn't even close to what I said and I don't understand what you are talking about now. Adie, is English a secondary language for you? If it is that may be why the miscommunication is happening.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

So you mean Americans are leaving US "for worse"? Out of dozens, give me a "not for good" reason why an American leave US (except of course being assigned in a war zone).

Why can't people accept the reality instead of giving a lot of excuses and defense mechanisms? Superiority complex is alive and visible but I'm not buying it. Nobody want to leave his country if he is satisfied with his life.

Americans, Britons, Australians, Canadians, and other "first class people" living their country to find happiness in another country has no problem with their native countries.

People from third world countries leaving to work in "first class countries" has problems with their native countries.

You see the real discrimination? If that's what you think then so be it.. No one is being insulted and if you think it that way, I can do nothing.... end of my comments.

Adie,

English is a funny language in some respects. Perhaps you are having trouble there. "FOR GOOD" in a context like this COULD have two meanings but generally means "I WILL NOT GO BACK!!!!!!! I AM ADAMANT ABOUT THAT!".

And the US never claimed to be a "first class" country, but a "first world" one. "first world" has to do with the GENERAL standards and the GENERAL level of technology, etc... "first class" is like best of breed. Breed here just means type and could refer to ANYTHING! It could even refer to a type of cloth, or the way food is cooked.

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Adie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Adie,

English is a funny language in some respects. Perhaps you are having trouble there. "FOR GOOD" in a context like this COULD have two meanings but generally means "I WILL NOT GO BACK!!!!!!! I AM ADAMANT ABOUT THAT!".

And the US never claimed to be a "first class" country, but a "first world" one. "first world" has to do with the GENERAL standards and the GENERAL level of technology, etc... "first class" is like best of breed. Breed here just means type and could refer to ANYTHING! It could even refer to a type of cloth, or the way food is cooked.

Steve

Nice explanation Steve. I said "for worse" because some people just don't admit that some people are leaving their country "for good".

"First class" is the term used by people from third world countries who are not familiar with the term "first world" when referring to US.

Anyway, setting the above things aside, I don't see immigration (if not tightly regulated) as a good thing in general. The negative results always bigger than the positive ones.

In every skilled person who migrated to another country to work, the result will be:

Positive:
1. That person can make a good living for him and his family back home "financially".

Negative:
1. Another person loses his job to an immigrant worker
2. Home country of immigrant worker loses a skilled worker
3. Rise of population of the host country
4. Families with father or mother working abroad can have a serious family problem.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

Nice explanation Steve. I said "for worse" because some people just don't admit that some people are leaving their country "for good".

"First class" is the term used by people from third world countries who are not familiar with the term "first world" when referring to US.

Anyway, setting the above things aside, I don't see immigration (if not tightly regulated) as a good thing in general. The negative results always bigger than the positive ones.

In every skilled person who migrated to another country to work, the result will be:

Positive:
1. That person can make a good living for him and his family back home "financially".

Negative:
1. Another person loses his job to an immigrant worker
2. Home country of immigrant worker loses a skilled worker
3. Rise of population of the host country
4. Families with father or mother working abroad can have a serious family problem.

Right on all counts.

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Originally Posted by Adie

"First class" is the term used by people from third world countries who are not familiar with the term "first world" when referring to US.

That's interesting.

I was wondering how it would be taken if we called ourselves first world and everyone else was third class.

I suspect that would have gone down like a lead balloon.

I personally have no problem with people coming here to do any jobs so long as they live and abide by our rules. My issue is the free loaders who come here to claim benefits and certain other people that feel it's their right to ignore our laws and set up there own and then live off benefits while inciting their own people to cause trouble.

If you don't like it here people are always free to leave again.
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Adie

10 years ago

Okay then, I'll forget this thread... Further arguments will only result to a non-productive discussion.

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taboy74

10 years ago

The pasture is greener on the other side of the fence so they say. I am a Filipino and I always dreamed of migrating to the US. In fact, I took up Physical Therapy in college and passed the licensure exam to boot. However, luck did not smile on me as I ended up failing to hurdle TOEFL-ibt twice since PT's need to get 26 in speaking while I only managed to get 24. Lol! The rest of the test, I did 28 and 29 and 26. If I can't get a VISA to the US, I am planning to follow my brother in Canada in order to pursue a better life. The Philippines is a beautiful country with very hospitable and fun loving people. It just so happened that our politicians and leaders are crooks and the system sucks big time.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by taboy74

The pasture is greener on the other side of the fence so they say. I am a Filipino and I always dreamed of migrating to the US. In fact, I took up Physical Therapy in college and passed the licensure exam to boot. However, luck did not smile on me as I ended up failing to hurdle TOEFL-ibt twice since PT's need to get 26 in speaking while I only managed to get 24. Lol! The rest of the test, I did 28 and 29 and 26. If I can't get a VISA to the US, I am planning to follow my brother in Canada in order to pursue a better life. The Philippines is a beautiful country with very hospitable and fun loving people. It just so happened that our politicians and leaders are crooks and the system sucks big time.

You really could do better on that test if you wanted to. If it is listening comprehension, you just need to listen more.

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fin

10 years ago

I agree with the person who said Australia is ridiculously expensive.

And you can get eaten by sharks.

But it's beautiful and chicken salt is amazing.

Can't believe how cheap the US is for a house. It's much more for that where I come from in Scotland. No wonder you have a crap minimum wage per hour.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I agree with the person who said Australia is ridiculously expensive.

And you can get eaten by sharks.

But it's beautiful and chicken salt is amazing.

Can't believe how cheap the US is for a house. It's much more for that where I come from in Scotland. No wonder you have a crap minimum wage per hour.

In the US.... The minimum wage is supposed to be for KIDS! It is for UNSKILLED LABOR! THEY were NOT expected to ever get houses. For DECADES, until the latest garbage, only like the middle middle class, and higher could really get a decent house. I mean FIGURE IT OUT! Average home today is like $300,000. So thirty years at 0% interest is $10,000/year. At a HISTORICAL max of 2088 hours, that is $4.79 an hour. They want you to be <30%, so figure 3 times that! You have to make 14.37 a year. But you need to pay TAX! Figure 40% more. You are up to $20.15 an hour to buy a home! ALAS, we didn't count the interest which is like another 10%! ALSO, if you make minimum wage, the NEW max hours is more like 1508!

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10 years ago

its my dream to work in USA.But i think,its not easy for me

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10 years ago

USA is a great place for living. What is your educational qualification? It is important to know. I hope I will be able to help you.

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rohanjha

9 years ago

Thanks all for your reply.
Now i decide which country is better to live forever.
But what about the job in this profile (i.e digital marketing, social media manager, ppc, seo and all).
Can somebody tell me the path I should follow to fulfill my dream.

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Originally Posted by rohanjha

Now i decide which country is better to live forever.

Originally Posted by Kay King

OP comes back 9 months later to bump his own thread - with the same question?

ai yi yi

He's looking for a country so he can live forever.

This might take a while...
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georgestanley032

9 years ago

Yeah! Better be here in Australia, it's way a lot much better here. But if you really wish to live and work to the US, try to search for an employer who hire overseas.

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salegurus

9 years ago

I suggest you stay in India they can't afford to lose a brilliant mind like you....

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