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I have my credit card processing through a local rep that is also a customer. I've had the service through him for 6 years, and have been very satisfied. I called him, asking him to explain a charge on my credit card processing statement. The charge was only $39. a month. But I didn't understand it.


He comes in with another guy, and tells me that there has been a small glitch in the system. He hands me several forms to sign. I ask "Are you still with the same processing company?" and he said "Yes". I asked "are you changing my processor?" and he said "No, we're just adjusting your rate down".

And then he bought a small item, and they walked out. Now, I've been selling for all my adult life, and not every bit of it was purely ethical. I can tell how someone acts when they are doing something that they don't want you to see. And I can tell when someone buys something they don't really want, as a form of redirection.

He bought the items, to redirect my attention. I knew it at the time, and it made me angry. But the room was full of customers, and he said he wasn't changing my service...so I let it go. But that night (maybe 5 days ago) I knew I wasn't getting the full story.

Sure enough, yesterday..in the mail...is the "Welcome letter" from the new processing company. I wasn't a happy person. But I usually wait until I've cooled down, before I react. Today, he walked in the store, (He should have waited a couple more days) and told me he was here to set up the new service.

I said "You told me you were still with the same company. You also told me that you were not changing my service." He started to apologize for the misunderstanding.

I said (Calm, but not friendly) "Stop. There was no misunderstanding. I asked you clearly..twice, and you told me something that wasn't true". He said "I would never..."

Claude the Merciless said "No. Here is a tip. Over the last several years, you have built a relationship with me. Your customer service is excellent. You're a good customer. Had you said 'Claude, I am changing your service to give you a slightly better rate", I would have said 'Sure, go ahead'. But you didn't. You hid the fact, because you thought I might say "no", and....you wanted a new account with another company."

He started to say that he was sorry if I got that impression....

"Here is the problem. Now, I can't trust you. So, we are leaving my account with the other processor. I'll change it when a customer offers a new service. So for now, it stays with your first company. But that will change eventually"

He said "What about all the business we have done together?"

"You're still a good customer. You can buy from me. And I'll still use your service you sold me 6 years ago. But you have proven to me that signing my name, to something you give me to sign...is a mistake"

He said "But I saved you money, by changing"

And I said "And that's what you should have told me. But you didn't. Thank you for coming in".

By the way, my saying "Thank you for coming in" is a way to say goodbye...without being really rude.

It saddens me. He could have had my business forever. I never would have bought from anyone else.

Don't lie to your customers.
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  • I am glad you told him you can't trust him now

    I hope he get's your message and makes a correction.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      As I sit here laminating 1000 name tags... I had to laugh. Just because it was you Claude with a title "How NOT To Sell." I knew it would be good. You over delivered ( as usual )

      If you can only imagine, I am very up front with my sales tactics, and I can see the shady side from a mile away. It actually drives me a bit insane to see, hear, or watch. ( even if I am not the target )

      I personally don't think the guy would have walked out of my shop so happy ( the first time around ) and the balls to even walk in probably like nothing had happened a couple days later... You are a man of much control. There would have been bats or a pool cue in my story somewhere! ha ha

      Better yet in your case I would have shown the suction power of your assorted vacuums on the guy as he lay on the floor.... ok maybe not on the floor but trying to run out the door at the very least. go go gadget extenda vacuum wand <suck> GOTCHA! and here folks is why I suggest a Kirby!
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        I rarely get angry enough to raise my voice, and I didn't raise it here.

        It wasn't that he tried to take advantage of me. It's that he didn't have to. And the fact that he stupidly ruined a profitable relationship. And I was insulted that he thought I wouldn't catch it.

        I used to sell life insurance. I knew an agent, that was a friend of mine. Every year, he would change companies, and rewrite all his clients with the new company. In fact, most of his income came from this one method. It wasn't good for the client, but he kept earning a new commission.

        I never did it, because I knew it was unfair to the client. That's similar to what this guy did.

        I've been lied to before, but this lie was insulting to me.

        I won't mention it to anyone he knows, we know several of the same people. But I'll know.

        I'm guessing he'll call me in a day or two....maybe stop by...to mend the fences. And I'll probably be nice to him. But I'll never forget it. And eventually, quietly, my business will go somewhere else.

        Which brings me to Cold Calling.

        If someone..anyone stopped by my store, selling processing services...in the last few days...or from now on...they would get a very fast and easy sale.

        Some prospecting is about timing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Unfortunate. I like that you handled it directly and did not let him leave without him knowing that you were fully aware of exactly what happened. I had something similar happen recently and all other parties were content to not push the issue believing its best not to make waves. I disagreed and made the party well aware that I knew what they did and that what they did was way less important to me than them trying to continue to say it was not so once confronted.

    Nobody is perfect. We have all made mistakes and anyone that says they do not is lying. What I hate is when people then accept the lie and pretend it never happened. How can anyone learn from that?

    I personally believe that by NOT yelling and simply stating it in a simple matter of fact manner that you gave the best chance of him absorbing this is not the way to do business. I don't lose my cool over this sort of stuff either as frankly it does me more harm that good and even worse the person it is directed to discounts your valid objection due to its delivery.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Hey now! don't get me wrong here I am not a yeller... actually its when I am silent you really need to watch out. that's when the Southern and West Virginia come out in me!

      The one thing tho, that does get me going is a liar during a business deal. That's breach of contract... that's fraud.. that's way to many things that can get someone in a bit more than trouble. just simply not tolerated in my book
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  • Profile picture of the author joe golfer
    After all the years he has known you, he should have known how you would respond to his shenanigans. This is all on him. He tried to be a weasel and got called out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      He stopped by, just before we closed.

      I was friendly and he apologized.


      He said "So, you forgive me now?'
      and I said "It isn't a matter of forgiveness. It's a matter of awareness. I know to be more aware now, when dealing with you."

      The truth is, it was really the way I think, when I drop any pretense. I can be pretty cold.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshsiaw
    Thanks for sharing the story. Sounds like he learned his lesson so hopefully he won't repeat it with someone else.

    It's funny how he never needed to hide anything though. It's sad that in an instant he threw away 6 years worth of trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author thet
    Interesting story.

    I have been in telesales for a year now. And what I saw with my fellow workers, is that lying is kind of normal.

    For example: Gatekeeper asks: Have you spoken with him before?

    Telesales guy says: Yes.

    While knowing he hasn't.

    What are your thoughts on that Claude? Should you never or do you believe in white lies?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by thet View Post

      Interesting story.

      I have been in telesales for a year now. And what I saw with my fellow workers, is that lying is kind of normal.

      For example: Gatekeeper asks: Have you spoken with him before?

      Telesales guy says: Yes.

      While knowing he hasn't.

      What are your thoughts on that Claude? Should you never or do you believe in white lies?
      In most of my career, I told white lies. But to me, that's not a white lie...it's a lie.

      A white lie is "My, what beautiful children you have".

      Lying is stupid. It's a stupid rookie mistake. Selling isn't pulling the wool over someone's eyes...selling is clarity. In business, people give you large sums of money, because you can be trusted with large sums of money. And any lie, while conducting business, hurts your chances at a sale.

      It isn't a moral issue, it's a matter of establishing and keeping trust. Trust is currency.
      Lying wastes everyone's time.

      In your example;

      For example: Gatekeeper asks: Have you spoken with him before?

      Telesales guy says: Yes.
      Really? The answer to the first question asked...is a lie? Why is that allowed? Is it taught? If it is, what else is management lying about?

      Lying is a desperation move, because you don't think the truth is good enough. And it's a move made by people who can't think 10 minutes into the future. Because in ten minutes, you'll slip, and get caught.

      Lying is burning bridges, and that's not a path to successful selling.

      I'll get off my soapbox now.
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      • Profile picture of the author thet
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        In most of my career, I told white lies. But to me, that's not a white lie...it's a lie.

        A white lie is "My, what beautiful children you have".

        Lying is stupid. It's a stupid rookie mistake. Selling isn't pulling the wool over someone's eyes...selling is clarity. In business, people give you large sums of money, because you can be trusted with large sums of money. And any lie, while conducting business, hurts your chances at a sale.

        It isn't a moral issue, it's a matter of establishing and keeping trust. Trust is currency.
        Lying wastes everyone's time.

        In your example;

        For example: Gatekeeper asks: Have you spoken with him before?

        Telesales guy says: Yes.
        Really? The answer to the first question asked...is a lie? Why is that allowed? Is it taught? If it is, what else is management lying about?

        Lying is a desperation move, because you don't think the truth is good enough. And it's a move made by people who can't think 10 minutes into the future. Because in ten minutes, you'll slip, and get caught.

        Lying is burning bridges, and that's not a path to successful selling.

        I'll get off my soapbox now.
        Advocate of the devil here.

        So, Gatekeer asks: Have you spoken with him before?

        Telesales guy says: No

        Gatekeeper says: Alright. I can't put you trough. Send an e-mail to info@youarenevergoingtoreachhimever.nl
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by thet View Post

          Advocate of the devil here.

          So, Gatekeer asks: Have you spoken with him before?

          Telesales guy says: No

          Gatekeeper says: Alright. I can't put you trough. Send an e-mail to info@youarenevergoingtoreachhimever.nl

          You don't just say "No", That's a dead end. You can say "No. Is he the one that handles the (Whatever)?"

          She says "Yes"

          You "That's what I'm calling about. Could you put me through? I'll hold"
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    so how did the new suppliers win your business ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      so how did the new suppliers win your business ;-)
      Explain that question. Do you mean the people I'm switching to? The company the rep tried to switch me to? The company he originally sold me 6 years ago?
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Can you put me through to him? I'm his, I'm his... best friend from college! Yeah, that's the ticket! We were in college together because wer'e uh, we're... twins! Yeah! That's what we are, twins! We even married the same woman. Morgan Fairchild! Sure, that's it!

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      Can you put me through to him? I'm his, I'm his... best friend from college! Yeah, that's the ticket! We were in college together because wer'e uh, we're... twins! Yeah! That's what we are, twins! We even married the same woman. Sure, that's right!

      I love it. One of my favorite characters of all time.
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