Digital Marketing Salary

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Came across this.
Wondering how your salary compares to the industry averages?

Top Executives

- Chief Digital Officer - see details
- Chief Marketing Technologist - see details
- VP of Ecommerce - $142,905
- VP of Digital Marketing - $131,408

Digital Marketing (General)

- Director of Digital Marketing - $114,064
- Digital Marketing Manager - $80,650
- Digital Marketing Strategist - $79,508
- Digital Marketing Specialist - $54,300
- Digital Marketing Coordinator - $46,438

Ecommerce

- Director of Ecommerce - $149,841
- Ecommerce Manager - $78,543
- Ecommerce Analyst - $66,421

Search Engine Optimization (SEO)

- Director of SEO - $101,109
- SEO Manager - $77,177
- SEO Analyst - $63,020
- SEO Strategist - $62,999
- SEO Specialist - $64,603

Paid Search (PPC)

- Paid Search Manager - $67,375
- Paid Search Analyst - $59,473
- Paid Search Specialist - $49,520
- Paid Search Coordinator - $49,183

Social Media

- Director of Social Media - $89,591
- Social Media Manager - $64,798
- Social Media Strategist - $60,340
- Social Media Specialist - $50,609
- Online Community Manager - $56,444

Digital Content

- Digital Content Strategist - $79,498
- Digital Copywriter - $62,505

Affiliate Marketing

- Affiliate Marketing Manager - $65,791

Email Marketing

- Email Marketing Manager - $75,099
- Email Marketing Specialist - $64,389

Mobile Marketing

- Mobile Marketing Manager - $74,679

Web Analytics

- Director of Web Analytics - $129,504
- Web Analytics Manager - $82,604
- Web Analytics Specialist - $77,665

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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    What's the difference between:

    - SEO Analyst - $63,020
    - SEO Strategist - $62,999
    - SEO Specialist - $64,603?

    Do they all get perks (paid health insurance, paid vacations, etc.)?

    So, according to this, you can make between 5 and 9k a month. How dare anyone on this forum claim you can make 20K or 30K?

    By the way, Salary.com and indeed.com can show you how much people make in your city.
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    • Profile picture of the author thet
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      What's the difference between:

      - SEO Analyst - $63,020
      - SEO Strategist - $62,999
      - SEO Specialist - $64,603?

      Do they all get perks (paid health insurance, paid vacations, etc.)?

      So, according to this, you can make between 5 and 9k a month. How dare anyone on this forum claim you can make 20K or 30K?

      By the way, Salary.com and indeed.com can show you how much people make in your city.
      Not sure. That's probably the right branding and doing one hell of a job at it?

      Perhaps you can earn a lot more being self-employed.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by thet View Post

        Not sure. That's probably the right branding and doing one hell of a job at it?

        Perhaps you can earn a lot more being self-employed.
        I would assume this is a survey of companies that have these positions. Companies that have an in house team instead of using another company that specializes in the area.

        I would also assume if they included being self employed and start ups the number would be considerably lower, probably in the 20-30k/yr range for all the positions.

        Obviously if you're the owner of a company, you stand to make much more.... or much less depending on where you are in your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      What's the difference between:

      – SEO Analyst – $63,020
      – SEO Strategist – $62,999
      – SEO Specialist – $64,603?

      Do they all get perks (paid health insurance, paid vacations, etc.)?

      So, according to this, you can make between 5 and 9k a month. How dare anyone on this forum claim you can make 20K or 30K?

      By the way, Salary.com and indeed.com can show you how much people make in your city.
      SEO Analysts is the front end of SEO, they are the ones that do the dirty work. Keyword research. Content development and the like.

      SEO Strategist looks at an existing SEO campaign and analyzes it performance, where adjustments and target shifting can be made. Generally these folks do not implement or design.

      SEO Specialist, does all the above basically.

      These salaries I believe are based apon more corporate type jobs, and yes they would have the full package of perks. I have a friend or 2 that fit the 3 categories and make more than those salaried listed in the Corporate world.

      BTW, if you are looking at any of these 3 jobs, you obviously need some SEO experience, but more importantly what companies are looking for are competent bloggers. Basically the ability to produce content that will provide SEO related results.
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      • Profile picture of the author thet
        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        SEO Analysts is the front end of SEO, they are the ones that do the dirty work. Keyword research. Content development and the like.

        SEO Strategist looks at an existing SEO campaign and analyzes it performance, where adjustments and target shifting can be made. Generally these folks do not implement or design.

        SEO Specialist, does all the above basically.

        These salaries I believe are based apon more corporate type jobs, and yes they would have the full package of perks. I have a friend or 2 that fit the 3 categories and make more than those salaried listed in the Corporate world.

        BTW, if you are looking at any of these 3 jobs, you obviously need some SEO experience, but more importantly what companies are looking for are competent bloggers. Basically the ability to produce content that will provide SEO related results.
        Do you mean copywriting? Or do you mean being able to write content?
        Could a journalist become a SEO specialist?
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        • Profile picture of the author savidge4
          Originally Posted by thet View Post

          Do you mean copywriting? Or do you mean being able to write content?
          Could a journalist become a SEO specialist?
          Understanding the SEO principles that apply to content in particular.. yes a journalist COULD become an SEO Specialist. The quicker learning curve would be in becoming an analyst. Understanding how to identify and target specific terms, and incorporate basic SEO principles into action.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        That's what I thought the difference was. But the salaries don't reflect that. Wondering why.

        Shouldn't the specialist, the one being able to analyze and strategies be worth significantly more than the analyst or the strategist?

        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        SEO Analysts is the front end of SEO, they are the ones that do the dirty work. Keyword research. Content development and the like.

        SEO Strategist looks at an existing SEO campaign and analyzes it performance, where adjustments and target shifting can be made. Generally these folks do not implement or design.

        SEO Specialist, does all the above basically.

        These salaries I believe are based apon more corporate type jobs, and yes they would have the full package of perks. I have a friend or 2 that fit the 3 categories and make more than those salaried listed in the Corporate world.

        BTW, if you are looking at any of these 3 jobs, you obviously need some SEO experience, but more importantly what companies are looking for are competent bloggers. Basically the ability to produce content that will provide SEO related results.
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        • Profile picture of the author savidge4
          Originally Posted by DABK View Post

          That's what I thought the difference was. But the salaries don't reflect that. Wondering why.

          Shouldn't the specialist, the one being able to analyze and strategies be worth significantly more than the analyst or the strategist?
          I would consider myself a SEO Specialist, with tendencies towards being more strategist oriented. I am good at setting up the strategies ( but not great ), but much better at putting them in place and once running, fine tuning the process for greater results.

          I happen to have a partner that is what most would consider a Specialist as well, but he leans more towards the Analyst side of the spectrum. Very good at researching and setting a strategy closer to perfect in the beginning, than say I. However, he struggles once the campaign is set in motion to see the trending and changing data patterns that allows for growth in SEO strategy.

          You put the 2 strengths together, and the end result is better than either of us alone could do. So in an Apples to Apples world, AND having the ability to hire the best. Hiring an Analyst, AND a Strategist would be in my eyes the preferred method.

          SO basically an Analyst or a Strategist would be Great at what they do, and someone that is a Specialist, would just be good at what they do.
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          • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
            Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

            You put the 2 strengths together, and the end result is better than either of us alone could do. So in an Apples to Apples world, AND having the ability to hire the best. Hiring an Analyst, AND a Strategist would be in my eyes the preferred method.
            And people still think charging $1,000/mo is too much.

            So a company that has all of these:
            - Director of SEO - $101,109
            - SEO Manager - $77,177
            - SEO Analyst - $63,020
            - SEO Strategist - $62,999
            - SEO Specialist - $64,603

            That means there's companies paying at least $31,000/mo on SEO.

            Not including benefits and perks.
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            • Profile picture of the author savidge4
              Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

              And people still think charging $1,000/mo is too much.

              So a company that has all of these:
              - Director of SEO - $101,109
              - SEO Manager - $77,177
              - SEO Analyst - $63,020
              - SEO Strategist - $62,999
              - SEO Specialist - $64,603

              That means there's companies paying at least $31,000/mo on SEO.

              Not including benefits and perks.
              And that is assuming that a company would only employ one each of these, which we know is not the case. A good friend of mine is a SEO Strategist at a fortune 500. ( he makes better than double the number listed here btw ) he over looks a team of 4 Analyst and 2 Specialist. His boss the Manager, over looks 2 teams, and the Director over looks 2 Managers or a total of 4 teams. That would be what 31 people in the SEO department alone.

              Right next to the SEO department offices, is the CRO offices, and that team is smaller in size but higher in education, so one is going to assume the salaries are higher.

              SEO and CRO is BIG as in LARGE money.

              The issue iAm, is not that people grumble over paying $1000 a month, its us not taking accountability for the market we choose. A $100,000 a year business is not going to cough up $30,000 a month obviously. A $500,000 a year company isn't going to do it. A $1,000,000 a year company, again, not on the high end SEO radar.

              I personally have hit that number...on a 3 month contract, which is a bit different, and that was for a $85,000,000 a year Company. I have hit the $20,000 mark with a $22,000,000 a year company.

              But look at the numbers... where should we be targeting $1000 a month services? $22,000,000 @ $20,000 a month = $1,100,000 @ $1000 a month. A whopping 1% if you really want to break it down.

              Now we know that the math truly doesn't work out.... But these are the things I look at. what is the sweet spot. What percentage of business, does my number need to be at, to be "Acceptable". I personally see patterns moving towards 2 to 3%. So a $500,000 a year company is a good "Target" for $1000 a month services.

              My own personal strategy has been to move towards the 3 month contract, that allows me to blur / bend those numbers a bit. A $1000 a month for a year is $12,000 or $3000 a month across 3 months is only $9000. Which client would you rather have?
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              • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
                Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

                And that is assuming that a company would only employ one each of these, which we know is not the case. A good friend of mine is a SEO Strategist at a fortune 500. ( he makes better than double the number listed here btw ) he over looks a team of 4 Analyst and 2 Specialist. His boss the Manager, over looks 2 teams, and the Director over looks 2 Managers or a total of 4 teams. That would be what 31 people in the SEO department alone.

                Right next to the SEO department offices, is the CRO offices, and that team is smaller in size but higher in education, so one is going to assume the salaries are higher.

                SEO and CRO is BIG as in LARGE money.

                The issue iAm, is not that people grumble over paying $1000 a month, its us not taking accountability for the market we choose. A $100,000 a year business is not going to cough up $30,000 a month obviously. A $500,000 a year company isn't going to do it. A $1,000,000 a year company, again, not on the high end SEO radar.

                I personally have hit that number...on a 3 month contract, which is a bit different, and that was for a $85,000,000 a year Company. I have hit the $20,000 mark with a $22,000,000 a year company.

                But look at the numbers... where should we be targeting $1000 a month services? $22,000,000 @ $20,000 a month = $1,100,000 @ $1000 a month. A whopping 1% if you really want to break it down.

                Now we know that the math truly doesn't work out.... But these are the things I look at. what is the sweet spot. What percentage of business, does my number need to be at, to be "Acceptable". I personally see patterns moving towards 2 to 3%. So a $500,000 a year company is a good "Target" for $1000 a month services.

                My own personal strategy has been to move towards the 3 month contract, that allows me to blur / bend those numbers a bit. A $1000 a month for a year is $12,000 or $3000 a month across 3 months is only $9000. Which client would you rather have?
                thing is Sav, the bigger business you go for, the more chance they already have in house teams in place , of course you can replace them at less cost and better ROI , but that's a tough sell .

                But good points well made and I agree in essence.

                So of course the right keyphrases need to be targeted, ones that bring real spending power to the webpages they are aimed at. Too many SEO efforts are aimed at phrases that aren't buyer driven or aimed at pages that aren't convertible, whose 'job' is that?

                Its easy to put a business on page 1 of Google , for the wrong phrase! But they wont know its the wrong phrase until they've paid out £,000s if ever, but the SEO bods its another portfolio addition, look they were on page 4 and now theyre in 6th position !!!! Use us we get SEO results.

                Yeh great but how many sales has that resulted in ? errr ahhhh ermmm next.

                What is an SEO result? truly, it should be a certain positive % of ROI but in reality to most its an improved Google position , crazy.
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                • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                  Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

                  What is an SEO result? truly, it should be a certain positive % of ROI but in reality to most its an improved Google position , crazy.
                  Can you say Unique Selling Position? hahaha Even with that, its not an easy sell!
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                • Profile picture of the author DABK
                  If you control everything. If not, it has to be 'just' an improved Google position.

                  You send 200 people a day to a website, and, wonder of wonders, all 200 end up contacting the business owner. The business owner converts 0.

                  Have you done your job?

                  Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post


                  What is an SEO result? truly, it should be a certain positive % of ROI but in reality to most its an improved Google position , crazy.
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                  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                    Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                    If you control everything. If not, it has to be 'just' an improved Google position.

                    You send 200 people a day to a website, and, wonder of wonders, all 200 end up contacting the business owner. The business owner converts 0.

                    Have you done your job?
                    As a Provider of SEO, yes... in terms of "Pre-Qualification", no
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                    • Profile picture of the author DABK
                      What you don't control is what they do. I've known many businesses that did well when I first met the business owner and, a few months later the owner made some changes that made it a different business.

                      Yes, you should pre-qualify, but you still don't have 100% control of what they do, only of what you do.

                      I'm with IAmNameless, I can take a business man to the water, I can't make him/her drink.

                      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

                      As a Provider of SEO, yes... in terms of "Pre-Qualification", no
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                      • they say McDonald's made a billion dollars of 1 sales line -

                        "would you like fry's with that"

                        IMO - Iamnameless line is gold

                        What I CAN guarantee is to give you the opportunity to have the #1 spot, the opportunity for a high ROI, and the opportunity for you to close more sales.

                        correct expectations, so you don't set yourself up to fail, look bad, or get yelled at!!!
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                      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                        What you don't control is what they do. I've known many businesses that did well when I first met the business owner and, a few months later the owner made some changes that made it a different business.

                        Yes, you should pre-qualify, but you still don't have 100% control of what they do, only of what you do.

                        I'm with IAmNameless, I can take a business man to the water, I can't make him/her drink.
                        Well let me clarify a bit here. 90% of my business is NOT lead generation. Or to flip that 10% of my business is NOT e-commerce.

                        You are correct you don't have control. BUT, 100% you do have control of who your target as prospects.

                        I have forever been frustrated with what I cant control in terms of conversion, and simply removed the elements... business's that I couldn't. For me it was a conscious decision. The 10% that I DO in the lead generation field, is very tracked and performance is based on CTA and not the outcome.

                        Did the prospect contact my client? a simple yes or no, Yes - then I did my job. Did the prospect walk into my clients store? This one becomes a bit trickier, but through the use of coupons and offers, there is generally a method of tracking, and with each one of those elements of tracking that appear then I did my job...

                        Again, and I am speaking for myself and not everyone in general ( sorry I didn't clarify that earlier ) Pre Qualification in terms of MY ideal client is what keeps my sanity!
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                  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                    Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                    If you control everything. If not, it has to be 'just' an improved Google position.

                    You send 200 people a day to a website, and, wonder of wonders, all 200 end up contacting the business owner. The business owner converts 0.

                    Have you done your job?
                    What I believe is this, I can't guarantee an exact spot, I can't guarantee high ROI, and I can't guarantee X amount of sales/customers. What I CAN guarantee is to give you the opportunity to have the #1 spot, the opportunity for a high ROI, and the opportunity for you to close more sales.
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                  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
                    Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                    If you control everything. If not, it has to be 'just' an improved Google position.

                    You send 200 people a day to a website, and, wonder of wonders, all 200 end up contacting the business owner. The business owner converts 0.

                    Have you done your job?
                    Of course youre right, I was meaning an SEO result for the businesses point of view rather than the consultant
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                    • Profile picture of the author DABK
                      If the business owner is into accurate thinking, he or she will think, from his/her perspective, that the SEO specialist did his job. His job was to get qualified people to contact the business. The business' job is to get those qualified people to buy.

                      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

                      Of course youre right, I was meaning an SEO result for the businesses point of view rather than the consultant
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          • Profile picture of the author DABK
            My understanding of specialist is that he/she is great at both.

            Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post


            SO basically an Analyst or a Strategist would be Great at what they do, and someone that is a Specialist, would just be good at what they do.
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            • Profile picture of the author savidge4
              Originally Posted by DABK View Post

              My understanding of specialist is that he/she is great at both.
              Im a specialist.. and I will admit, and already did in this thread, that I am not great at both. I HONESTLY think its like left brain right brain thinking.. you can do both, but you are going to be better at one than the other. I am more analytical, so tend to be more the numbers "strategist" type.
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              • Profile picture of the author thet
                Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

                Im a specialist.. and I will admit, and already did in this thread, that I am not great at both. I HONESTLY think its like left brain right brain thinking.. you can do both, but you are going to be better at one than the other. I am more analytical, so tend to be more the numbers "strategist" type.
                Just trying to paint a picture for myself here.
                SEO seems pretty niche, in the sense that, you don't just go to get a university degree in SEO. So, what's your background? How many years did it take you to get to the level you are at? What do you do all day as a SEO specialist?

                Just being curious
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                • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                  Originally Posted by thet View Post

                  Just trying to paint a picture for myself here.
                  SEO seems pretty niche, in the sense that, you don't just go to get a university degree in SEO. So, what's your background? How many years did it take you to get to the level you are at? What do you do all day as a SEO specialist?

                  Just being curious
                  I also consider myself a specialist leaning more towards strategist than analyst.

                  My background is just experience, testing things out for myself and then experience with clients.

                  The thing with SEO is... I can be in the game for 10 years and still be at the same level as you if you've been doing it for 2 years. It changes often and evens the playing field.

                  Those that test everything they hear, are usually the ones that can get a leg up on the competition.
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                  • Profile picture of the author thet
                    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                    I also consider myself a specialist leaning more towards strategist than analyst.

                    My background is just experience, testing things out for myself and then experience with clients.

                    The thing with SEO is... I can be in the game for 10 years and still be at the same level as you if you've been doing it for 2 years. It changes often and evens the playing field.

                    Those that test everything they hear, are usually the ones that can get a leg up on the competition.
                    Super interesting business. Also a bit dangerous, perhaps. It fits right in the era we live in. However, what will be in 2040?
                    10 years ago, was there already SEO?

                    So, you had a business and you just started with SEO? Tested some things?
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                • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                  Originally Posted by thet View Post

                  Just trying to paint a picture for myself here.
                  SEO seems pretty niche, in the sense that, you don't just go to get a university degree in SEO. So, what's your background? How many years did it take you to get to the level you are at? What do you do all day as a SEO specialist?

                  Just being curious
                  I have been into SEO since late 1995. as iAm mentions... I am that guy. I test EVERYTHING and probably then some. This past year alone I sent 40 URLS into the sandbox, and not because I was doing stupid stuff, it was because I was seeing where the line in the sand is.

                  I have once in my career sent a clients site down the tubes. Without question I accredit that to my testing strategies. Until late last year I had the data from a touch over 3000 up and running sites that I could monitor and watch patterns. That is where having a firm grasp on Strategist skills comes into play.

                  I am a firm believer that Failure needs to come at my expense, and not my clients. In the realm of SEO I am far from radical, and far from passive. And because of the testing that I do, I know exactly where those lines are, and can strategically migrate to a centered strategy that has a decent amount of gain, while maintaining safety for my own personal as well as my clients financial interests.

                  Above and beyond anything you get out of this... let me repeat a part of that last sentence again. "...while maintaining safety for my own personal as well as my clients financial interests." Websites are cold hard cash. Its all fine and dandy if you want to blow your own money, but to get paid by a client each month, and then tank their site... that's just not good.

                  So the question of what we do all day... I for the most part do not do SEO as a separate activity, I include those services in site builds. Im getting back into it a bit as my business heads in a new direction, it becomes an easy compliment service to Conversion Rate Optimization ( CRO )

                  I spend most of my day buried in Analytics, Coding and writing.. writing and writing. You would think as much as I write I would be better at it! hahaha
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    yeh but that's partly my point, SEO consultant can easily send 200 people to a webpage, but are they targeted correctly to then be able to be converted, are they people searching for a term that suggests they are serious ready buyers (send them to a sales type page) or are they info seekers doing the initial stages of product/ supplier discovery (send them to a relationship building page ) .

    Most SEO will go for the terms that are easier to rank so they look good to their clients, most marketers/ consultants will go for the buying phrases so they make a good return for their clients
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not talking about
      what is home insurance
      but
      Chicago home insurance
      New York home insurance quote

      If you send 200 great leads to a business owner and he doesn't convert any...

      What you're talking about isn't SEO but taking advantage of people. I'm never talking about that as a good way. I don't do it, don't condone it.

      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      yeh but that's partly my point, SEO consultant can easily send 200 people to a webpage, but are they targeted correctly to then be able to be converted, are they people searching for a term that suggests they are serious ready buyers (send them to a sales type page) or are they info seekers doing the initial stages of product/ supplier discovery (send them to a relationship building page ) .

      Most SEO will go for the terms that are easier to rank so they look good to their clients, most marketers/ consultants will go for the buying phrases so they make a good return for their clients
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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not talking about
        what is home insurance
        but
        Chicago home insurance
        New York home insurance quote

        If you send 200 great leads to a business owner and he doesn't convert any...

        What you're talking about isn't SEO but taking advantage of people. I'm never talking about that as a good way. I don't do it, don't condone it.
        This very conversation is the reason I personally don't venture much into lead generation. I know that there are those of you reading this, that thrive in this aspect of the industry. Me personally, I just dont like messing with it.

        The issue is, there are many types of "conversions" taking place here. From the perspective of SEO as it relates to generating traffic, what I would consider the PRIMARY conversion is the traffic itself. A person finding a listing in the serps and clicking on it.. the actual traffic generation is a conversion.

        Then you get into the aspect of the end user clicking to make a call. filling out a form, or calling a trackable phone number. Again all 3 of these are forms of conversion. These forms of conversion typically fall out of the realm of SEO, and are generally the responsibility of the page designer or a CRO Specialist. Again ME personally, I look for and close clients with my "packaging" that allows me to position myself as all 3 of those separate positions ( SEO CRO Designer ).

        The last conversion that takes place is obviously the sale itself. You send a client a verified 200 leads, and they close not a one.
        • Im a SEO specialist, not an insurance salesman, I get traffic. I get the agent the needed traffic to bring the visitors to their site to produce 200 leads contacting the agent.
        • I am a Web Designer that built the page that had all of the needed elements in place to take the traffic that has come to the site to contact the agent. I build websites, I don't sell insurance.
        • I am the CRO specialist that took what the designer made, and made it better through testing and implementing changes that increased the overall conversion. that conversion being contacting the insurance agent. I don't sell insurance.
        Here is the point. Between the actual link out on the search engine. The copy on the page itself. And the message within the call to action to get that end user to contact the insurance agent, there should have been more than enough pre-qualification. There should be no issue, that the calls that said agent are getting meet at the very least basic parameters to close the deal.

        If the Agent isn't closing the deal, where does the responsibility lay? If the agent per se is the client of all 3 services mentioned above, which one can you pin point as the failed link? Obviously I am going to say none of the above... AND I am going to say the accountability for the lack of end conversion falls to the agent.

        BUT is it left at that? I don't think so actually. Again the agent being the client to the 3 above stated services. the client laid out their goals and pre-qualification requirements. and we will assume that the 3 above mentioned services fulfilled those requirements. THIS is when a Marketing Consultant is needed to step in and look at the client side needs and determine exact pre-qualification needs to pass to the above stated 3 services, in order to adjust the message to get the end conversion results.

        There is the information from this thread http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...scription.html that comes into play. The Marketing Consultant at this point is the guy that needs to come in and overlook the whole process and see the needs of the client / agent, and communicate to the 3 services and correct the obvious and apparent disconnect.

        The assumption here is that the client / agent hired the above 3 services and told them what HE wanted, the 3 service providers obviously did not fail, as there are 200 potential leads that have converted through the funnel multiple times to get to the client.

        It becomes the targeting and the message of the funnel that needs to be looked at. More importantly it becomes a matter of correcting the perceived needs that the client thinks they have, and through the eyes of the 3rd party Marketing Consultant, getting to the true desired target and pre-qualification process that will in the end produce results.
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        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not talking about
        what is home insurance
        but
        Chicago home insurance
        New York home insurance quote

        If you send 200 great leads to a business owner and he doesn't convert any...

        What you're talking about isn't SEO but taking advantage of people. I'm never talking about that as a good way. I don't do it, don't condone it.
        I know what you are talking about, its the same as me. Using the most effective phrases to win business as opposed to winning ranking positions or webpage visits . We are on the same path and I was certainly never suggesting you weren't .

        I AM suggesting there are way too many SEO people out there, companies included, who will take the easier , blinkered, option to the rankings and views, showing their clients look you've gone from page 4 to position 6 , look you've had XXXX page views in the last month and THEN blame the low conversions on the business failing to sell when its the SEO that is failing to deliver the correct visitors.

        As you say, give the business the correct targeted visitors via SEO and they don't convert them then yes its more the businesses fault, give them non buyers/ tyre kickers or send the wrong visitor to the wrong type of landing pages (as so often happens via Google Ads click thrus) and its the SEO bods doing wrong.
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