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offline franchise with Mario review

by guardado8
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Just wondering if anyone has gotten the chance to buy offline franchise machine from cameron and Mario.

it looks really interesting as all you have to do is send leads to the sales funnel they have in place. but im hesitant as to if they will really pay you when they close a sale.

anybody has any thoughts on this?
#franchise #mario #offline #review
  • Profile picture of the author Freebiequeen1999
    Is that the guy in the tee shirt who didn't even have a logo on his site? it says "Divi"?

    LOL that is the name of the wordpress theme

    there is a whole thread about this here somewhere
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    • Profile picture of the author guardado8
      Originally Posted by Freebiequeen1999 View Post

      Is that the guy in the tee shirt who didn't even have a logo on his site? it says "Divi"?

      LOL that is the name of the wordpress theme

      there is a whole thread about this here somewhere
      Apparently Mario used to be here on the forum with a different name. and got banned from the forum, or so i read on a post when i looked him up. i forgot what his real name is.
      but i purchased one of his products before and it made me money. not as promised but it did. but then again i didn't continue to use it.
      some people say he is a scam. from my experience i guess not. but it seems catchy that on his video sales page he always throws the same numbers, same claims and so on.

      i will give it some thought and maybe i will join and let everyone know how it is.
      is a bit pricy for me at the moment that is why i am giving it a little consideration
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by Freebiequeen1999 View Post

      Is that the guy in the tee shirt who didn't even have a logo on his site? it says "Divi"?

      LOL that is the name of the wordpress theme

      there is a whole thread about this here somewhere
      This is the other thread that has been referenced:
      http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-flipping.html
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
    Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

    Just wondering if anyone has gotten the chance to buy offline franchise machine from cameron and Mario.

    it looks really interesting as all you have to do is send leads to the sales funnel they have in place. but im hesitant as to if they will really pay you when they close a sale.

    anybody has any thoughts on this?
    Nothing comes easy, bub.

    Yes, I am currently building a lead gen website with SEO from Cameron's materials. No, it's not as easy as claimed. However, it has been a tremendous help and boost for me personally to get going into developing seo optimized websites that are starting to rank.

    Edit: I am already coming into things as a seasoned web developer (that's not just "web design", but actual programming). I use existing templates found on LeadPages, extend their functionality and add more seo optimization into them. Also I am adding PPC (my own stuff) to the site.

    Also, forget the spammy backlinking stuff and focus on consistently adding content (iWriter is good for finding decent writers YOU PAY to develop content if you are too starved for ideas).

    Do the citation work, or sub it out.

    Get your NAP stuff consistent across everything you do for the lead gen site.

    Check out IAmNameLess's blog for additional local seo.

    Check out NichePursuits.

    The point I have made in other threads is that the LLM is to solely be used as a spring board to get you going. You will need to seek out additional info, educate yourself and implement the things you've identified as effective.
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    • Profile picture of the author guardado8
      Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc View Post

      Nothing comes easy, bub.

      Yes, I am currently building a lead gen website with SEO from Cameron's materials. No, it's not as easy as claimed. However, it has been a tremendous help and boost for me personally to get going into developing seo optimized websites that are starting to rank.
      not saying it will be easy. but it sounds like a good idea. not sure if you saw the webinar. I saw the replay. but pretty much you get to use their funnel. your job is to send leads to this webinar in which they pretty much show them how to increase their revenue. they show them exactly what to do. but is a lot of information apparently and they do that on purpose to overwhelm them so that they can end up hiring them to do the work.

      anyways. it seems legit as all you have to do is send leads to the webinar and after that they take care of the closing part. but i am just hesitant because what if they close the sale but then don't tell you about it and then you get nothing and they keep 100%.
      just not sure how that would workout.

      they do however guarantee that if you don't make money after sending a certain amount of leads to the funnel then they will refund you double the amount that you paid.
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      • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
        Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

        not saying it will be easy. but it sounds like a good idea. not sure if you saw the webinar. I saw the replay. but pretty much you get to use their funnel. your job is to send leads to this webinar in which they pretty much show them how to increase their revenue. they show them exactly what to do. but is a lot of information apparently and they do that on purpose to overwhelm them so that they can end up hiring them to do the work.

        anyways. it seems legit as all you have to do is send leads to the webinar and after that they take care of the closing part. but i am just hesitant because what if they close the sale but then don't tell you about it and then you get nothing and they keep 100%.
        just not sure how that would workout.

        they do however guarantee that if you don't make money after sending a certain amount of leads to the funnel then they will refund you double the amount that you paid.
        It's the same "time sensitive" offer as all the others. I don't understand why you wouldn't just start generating leads NOW, call them up and say, "hey, I've got 5 attorney's that are ready. Let's get them into your funnel."

        Why would you need to pay them to do that?

        A partnership is not one party charging you for something. If it's at all cracked up to be, then get a lead and approach them. Call them up. Tell them, "HERE'S A CLIENT, LET'S GO 50/50. ADD THEM TO YOUR FUNNEL AND LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO".

        (I am saying this of course because it's dumb to have to pay someone to go 50/50 on something. You are either in or out with the client I am bringing to the table or not. No up front money).
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        • Profile picture of the author guardado8
          Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc View Post

          It's the same "time sensitive" offer as all the others. I don't understand why you wouldn't just start generating leads NOW, call them up and say, "hey, I've got 5 attorney's that are ready. Let's get them into your funnel."

          Why would you need to pay them to do that?

          A partnership is not one party charging you for something. If it's at all cracked up to be, then get a lead and approach them. Call them up. Tell them, "HERE'S A CLIENT, LET'S GO 50/50. ADD THEM TO YOUR FUNNEL AND LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO".

          (I am saying this of course because it's dumb to have to pay someone to go 50/50 on something. You are either in or out with the client I am bringing to the table or not. No up front money).
          I guess is fair that they are charging simply because is not just that they let you use you their funnel. but they also train you on how to sale in many ways. also they train you on how to hire and manage a team so that they can call for you. if you don't have experience,like i don't then i guess is fair. becuase you will learn how to manage a business or so they claim. otherwise i see your point.
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          • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
            Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

            I guess is fair that they are charging simply because is not just that they let you use you their funnel. but they also train you on how to sale in many ways. also they train you on how to hire and manage a team so that they can call for you. if you don't have experience,like i don't then i guess is fair. becuase you will learn how to manage a business or so they claim. otherwise i see your point.
            Riiiiight....

            Don't let anyone's claims make a decision for you!

            Seriously... Just go generate a lead first. Bring it to them, call them up (can you?) and see if they are willing to go for it!

            Let us know what happens!
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

            I guess is fair that they are charging simply because is not just that they let you use you their funnel. but they also train you on how to sale in many ways. also they train you on how to hire and manage a team so that they can call for you. if you don't have experience,like i don't then i guess is fair. becuase you will learn how to manage a business or so they claim. otherwise i see your point.
            If their offer is to do the actual internet marketing and/or web design for people you bring them,
            I'd be very concerned about harming your own reputation.

            What if their implementation is no good? Will you get any repeat or referral business?
            Worse, will disgruntled "clients" come after you?

            If you want to sell internet marketing services to real businesses, see about working with an
            established local agency or web designer that has an excellent reputation.

            If you are newish to selling, it will be a while before you are ready to hire and train your own team.
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            • Profile picture of the author guardado8
              Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

              If their offer is to do the actual internet marketing and/or web design for people you bring them,
              I'd be very concerned about harming your own reputation.

              What if their implementation is no good? Will you get any repeat or referral business?
              Worse, will disgruntled "clients" come after you?

              If you want to sell internet marketing services to real businesses, see about working with an
              established local agency or web designer that has an excellent reputation.

              If you are newish to selling, it will be a while before you are ready to hire and train your own team.
              well It seems like i will be part of their business, as in I will be borrowing their name and of course if they can't deliver the work then that means they will mess up their reputation.
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              • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

                well It seems like i will be part of their business, as in I will be borrowing their name and of course if they can't deliver the work then that means they will mess up their reputation.
                And your reputation as well. And, sadly, although people can change, he does not have the best reputation or current appearance thereof.

                Again, there are the issues of where your client work falls in the stack of work to be done
                that all the tens or hundreds of other reps have brought to them, and the quality of the work.

                When and how are you paid?

                Will you actually be paid, or are they going to take your clients and run without even a thank you
                for the lead?

                Do you have professional liability if a client is disgruntled and sues?

                I think you'd be better off finding a local agency to sell for. Free to you, and they pay you.
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                • Profile picture of the author guardado8
                  Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                  And your reputation as well. And, sadly, although people can change, he does not have the best reputation or current appearance thereof.

                  Again, there are the issues of where your client work falls in the stack of work to be done
                  that all the tens or hundreds of other reps have brought to them, and the quality of the work.

                  When and how are you paid?

                  Will you actually be paid, or are they going to take your clients and run without even a thank you
                  for the lead?

                  Do you have professional liability if a client is disgruntled and sues?

                  I think you'd be better off finding a local agency to sell for. Free to you, and they pay you.

                  lol well if you read my original post then you will realize that is what i was asking. im not promoting their product.
                  i actually want to know if anyone has purchased the product so they can tell me how it is and if its worth it
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                  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                    Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

                    Just wondering if anyone has gotten the chance to buy offline franchise machine from cameron and Mario.

                    it looks really interesting as all you have to do is send leads to the sales funnel they have in place. but im hesitant as to if they will really pay you when they close a sale.

                    anybody has any thoughts on this?
                    Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

                    lol well if you read my original post then you will realize that is what i was asking. im not promoting their product.
                    i actually want to know if anyone has purchased the product so they can tell me how it is and if its worth it
                    You also asked if "anybody has any thoughts on this?".

                    You've received lots of thoughts from experienced people who've seen enough of these types of deals.

                    Good luck.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kate Luella
                Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

                well It seems like i will be part of their business, as in I will be borrowing their name and of course if they can't deliver the work then that means they will mess up their reputation.
                Good luck - you're gonna need it!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kate Luella
    I agree with Jamesfreddyc - its not just about the website, its about your willingness to put in the work - its bloody hard work cold calling, following up, sometimes sucking up - to get real $10K deals over and over, but you def can do it. I know because I do this regularly, but it wasn't always like that.

    AND if I took the training of people like cameron & mario spew out I would have failed miserably because most of their training is simply rubbish - completely useless.

    There are a couple of other IM's on this forum that do "training" (I use the word loosely here) on how to sell offline consulting - their "strategies" and "technics" are impossible - and dare I say it - just plain stupid.

    I know it's hard for newbies to know who to buy from, but here are my tips:

    - Are they currently doing the kind of work they are telling you they know how to train you to do?
    (see proof - live on the net - not $5 photoshop screenshots)

    - If so, where is their consulting website?
    (google their name - what comes up then - any decent Offline Consultant will have a good online rep with verifiable social accounts that they are real)

    - Where are the list of REAL businesses - that you can look up and see they are REAL - not just names and blurry images? The amount of BS testimonies out there now are crazy.

    - If they are teaching you to do it, and it makes them "$1,000's" - then why are they training you to do it? And don't buy the "I'm teaching you because I want to help others"- that is code for I want to make money.

    When we did our Maven training (on this forum) last year it was for 2 reasons:

    1/ So many newbies were being tricked by people on this forum and I wanted to show real strategies that worked, and how to actually implement them (and my business was already making minimum $10K per sale - so I was appropriate to teach it) - Anyone could search mine and Caroline's name to see we were the real deal and had a huge online rep for the work we were training in.

    2/ The strategy we taught was well established techniques - not get rich quick - and yes, somewhat hard work - but at least we could vouch for its effectiveness because we were walking the talk.

    Maybe we need to do a refresher soon.

    The IM's selling BS tactics and strategies are just scraping through, you only have to look at the standard of their work to see that...

    I'll say no more.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoro
    Originally Posted by guardado8 View Post

    Just wondering if anyone has gotten the chance to buy offline franchise machine from Cameron and Mario.

    it looks really interesting as all you have to do is send leads to the sales funnel they have in place. but im hesitant as to if they will really pay you when they close a sale.

    anybody has any thoughts on this?
    Franchising? Sounds like an interesting idea. These guys seem to come up with some great concepts, But Do They Work ?
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by zoro View Post

      Franchising? Sounds like an interesting idea. These guys seem to come up with some great concepts, But Do They Work ?
      A problem with a "franchise" or "distributorship" in this industry is getting the work done in a timely manner, or as agreed or promised to your clients.

      How many people are bringing them work?

      How many people are doing the work?

      What is the quality of the work?

      Where are you in the stack of work to be done?

      What if an urgent change is needed to a client's project and you don't have the skill set?
      Or, you don't have access to the thing that needs a change, such as the Facebook account they have opened up on your behalf?

      What if they slam the Facebook or Twitter account of your classy, high profile client with
      tacky stuff in broken English?

      Controlling the quality and timeliness of the work of others is one of the most difficult things
      in a successful web design and internet marketing business. (I once had a friend/web designer
      partner who all of a sudden decided he'd rather get by off his savings and by playing the local
      slot machines.)

      Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author Kate Luella
      Originally Posted by zoro View Post

      Franchising? Sounds like an interesting idea. These guys seem to come up with some great concepts, But Do They Work ?
      I can come up with great concepts too if you are want to pay me for them!

      Theory is easy - reality is hard.

      Consume less - create more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Freebiequeen1999
    Face it......if you CAN sell, you could easily get buyers and turn them over to a techo firm to design websites, do the seo - plenty of them can't seem to sell..

    face it .....if you CAN create, design, code websites, do seo, etc etc...if you have a skill set....you can sell it yourself or perhaps get someone to sell it for you

    face it - they want YOU to pay them for the "honor" of repping them??

    There is the matter of quality....I helped a client "get back" his facebook etc from a guy in India...stilted words, weird pictures, a header that was just his biz card stretched out (broke fb rules)
    the guy was posting some pics of babes in bikinis on his twitter however LOL (and he is in real estate)


    the fact is ...these guys can leave YOU hanging, it is YOUR rep with local clients, YOUR clients...what are you going to do? Leave town and move to India to work on fiverr??

    If you want to have some fun go to the "wso" forum and check on "older" wso - look on the last page/s of them....so many where the "guru" leaves them high and dry "he doesn't respond t emails"..
    "Is the forum done ? it is gone"...."No more support?"

    and then the domain is gone

    heck this one guy didn't even care enough to change the logo on his website haha
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  • Profile picture of the author East Bay Media Marketing
    yeah i wouldn't go for it. how can you guarantee that they won't just get the client and never pay you.
    i suggest you learn how to sell on your own. it might be tough at first but once you get it down you will be able to sell anything and will never need a job ever again in your life.
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