Are there any 9 x 12 guys left here? Postcard marketing?

Just got a note from someone who is thinking of getting into the Giant Postcard biz with a guy named Art Gottleib. I remember he used to do the magzines thing with ads. I guess he has switched to 9X12 only now, not sure.

His site, and I have no affiliation with any of the 9x12 guys, is giantpostcardbusiness dot com. I watched his video, read the site, and it just doesn't ring true in my experience.

About 3 years ago, maybe 4 now?, I talked with dozens of guys who were doing the 9x12 thing, it was a hot topic here for a New York minute.

Most of the people I talked to found it to be much harder than the way it was presented, albeit all Biz-Op like to talk about how easy something is to do.

There is nothing easy about calling on businesses and selling them advertising, and although YOUR experience may differ, the vast majority find it to be a grind and then some.

The idea, as presented at this guy's site that you can do a card with 39 ads on them and do 3 or 4 a month, easily, just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't know, maybe he's a super hypnotist, but I've never been able to walk in, hand a sample and without questions, get an order.

I do know some hard working guys who DO sell advertising, on postcards, and via other media, but none of them are coming anywhere near what this guy claims one can do, and in their part time.

Most consistent person I know does one and a half per week, and has for many months. But he has a unique thing going.

I love postcards. I like selling advertising (or did at one point)...and I still keep an eye on Biz-Op, more as a hobby these days...but I have to wonder when I come across something like this. A guy wants $2500.00 to get his "plan" and details on HOW to do it, then gets the printing, has you pay 3700 for the card, anything above that is your profit.

He says there is 4100 dollars of PROFIT per card, and 4 a month is doable part time.

So, honestly, any 9x12 guys left, or is anyone doing anything with selling advertising still? I know we had that discussion last year about the guy doing mobile and remote stuff, but I think that was the last we discussed selling ads.

Since I just got this in my email today, I assume there is a campaign going on and he seems to have dropped his other publishing businesses and is ALL IN on the 9x12.

I have nothing against this guy, don't know him from Adam or Steve, but I did notice his sample cards are made up, in that they have all kinds of phone numbers from across the country on them, a local area card would mostly have the same area codes, right?

I don't think Tony's Pizza in Brookly would be on the same card as a phone company in Manhattan...KANSAS. So the sample cards are not real cards.

IF he had a few cards as sample that actually showed an area where this happened, I'd be more impressed.

So, anyone still doing advertising sales on postcards? Thanks.

GordonJ

PS. On a different note, it appears today that 2500 bucks for a non Franchise Biz-Op is what used to be a 500 dollar one, what have you encountered in Biz Op?