Does it matter where you live?

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I was reading about Musk and I paraphrase this quote from him:

"I would not have been able to do what I did not start in California. Other places simply don't have the infrastructure"


Then there was this article from Graham:

How to Be Silicon Valley



But these articles are dated. Musk and

Today, with the internet taken for granted does it still matter where you live?


If people that want to get into acting move to LA,

do people that want to do tech startups still move to Silicon Valley?


Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    Where you live only matters if it in any way, shape or form has an effect on what you want to do. Where would a prospective actor need to live other than LA or NYC? Fargo, ND, maybe.

    If you want to teach SCUBA diving, move to Key West, not the Bering Straights. Yes, of course that's a totally ridiculous answer, but please consider what I had to work with.

    If you can't answer this question for yourself, you're in serious trouble.
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    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

    do people that want to do tech startups still move to Silicon Valley? Thoughts?
    Of course, some do and some always will, but most major metropolitan areas now have high-tech, designated incubator areas, mainly in parts of the city where they are looking to rehab through economic development.

    What you most likely won't find in these enterprise zones is an abundance of venture capital. That would indicate that a relationship with Silicon Valley entities, at this point, may still be required for a tech start-up to take their next, large step.
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    I was talking with an offline client a few years ago, he's probably around 40 years old. He said he hasn't ever owned a house and never wants one because it limits him to one location.

    Selling a home takes time (months usually) and is a hassle. It's just something he didn't want to deal with or have holding him back from business opportunities.

    It must work for him because he does pretty well financially.
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    As usual, it depends.

    For example a kiwi entrepeneur went to Silicon Valley to get into the USA market.

    He made it work withg his connections and sold out for a big payday.

    Next he has set up a launchpad for other Kiwi
    tech startups who want to get a foothold
    into the US market...Kiwi Landing Pad | Supporting great New Zealand technology companies global growth.

    His next move was to prove to himself you can launch
    a reasonably big tech co into a population of under 5 million, N.Z.

    It's N.Z's answer to Zillow.

    There has been research done to see what was the majority of funding methods
    for early stage growth.

    The numbers showed it was customer funded.

    If that is the case, why go to Silicon Valley?

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  • Profile picture of the author eccj
    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

    I was reading about Musk and I paraphrase this quote from him:

    "I would not have been able to do what I did not start in California. Other places simply don't have the infrastructure"


    Then there was this article from Graham:

    How to Be Silicon Valley



    But these articles are dated. Musk and

    Today, with the internet taken for granted does it still matter where you live?


    If people that want to get into acting move to LA,

    do people that want to do tech startups still move to Silicon Valley?


    Thoughts?
    Oddly, it matters more than ever.

    You would think this thing called the internet would change things yet look at how obsessed Big Tech is with keeping it all in SV.

    There are major housing and transportation issues in SF and SV yet no major tech company is using the internet to solve this issue.

    Oran Klaff, the Pitch Anything author, has talked about not even going to SV VC's for money unless you are already based in SV because they won't give you the big bucks.

    One of the "secrets" to getting to "unicorn" status is to have the tech media in SF crown your venture the "next big thing," use your company's name as a verb, talk as if you are the only options, etc.

    If you're based out of one of those phony "Silicon (fill in the blank but not with valley)" you're not going to be worth a billion bucks before you sniff a profit.

    If you are going to do something really big, you better move. Even Zuckerberg moved from Harvard of all places. If you can't make a billion at Harvard good luck doing it on the "Silicon Slopes" of Utah.

    Otherwise you better bring some big bucks to the table. And by big I mean Wall Street money, as in the case of Amazon.

    Of course you can build a billion dollar company outside of California or NYC. But it isn't going to be quick and it isn't going to be sexy. You're not going to have the thousands of journalists who's job it is to make VC's and Wall St richer than they already are working for you. You're not going to have the regulatory state working for you either.
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    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

    I was reading about Musk and I paraphrase this quote from him:

    "I would not have been able to do what I did not start in California. Other places simply don't have the infrastructure"


    Then there was this article from Graham:

    How to Be Silicon Valley



    But these articles are dated. Musk and

    Today, with the internet taken for granted does it still matter where you live?


    If people that want to get into acting move to LA,

    do people that want to do tech startups still move to Silicon Valley?


    Thoughts?
    It depends on your field of work. If you are doing a work where external factors don't matter, it doesn't really matter where you live. But if you are working in a field where inputs are required from various platforms, it does matter where you live. E.g., if you are working in the field of robotics and there you need expertise of software, electronics, electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, control system experts etc., it does matter where you live because you can't be expert of all these fields. But if you are an smart phone app developer, well you can be anywhere in the world and do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ctrlaltdelete
    It always does. Plenty of people, no matter how skilled and bright they may be, no matter if they have a college degree or not, still struggle because of where they are--and sometimes because of the people they're surrounded by. Some places will always provide more opportunities for a person.




    Take this for instance: I'm fond of hiring folks from the Philippines, but boy do they still have trouble with their internet connection--among other things. I reckon if they had better infrastructure, they'd be way easier to work with.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by ctrlaltdelete View Post

      It always does.
      Some people will manage to find success regardless of where they live, especially in our modern interconnected world. Others will fail, regardless of where they live. Being a winner or a loser has very little to do with where you live, except in the most extreme circumstances.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nortus Fitness
    Yes it does! How? sorry elaboration can take a lot of time.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Nortus Fitness View Post

      Yes it does! How? sorry elaboration can take a lot of time.
      Thanks for sharing. Hysterically funny. Worthless, but funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    It's important THE PEOPLE YOU ARE GOING WITH.

    And these belongs to where you live.

    And also for tax.

    I mean, if you are in Internet Marketing niche.

    If you want to build a phisycal business based on an infrastructure of course you need a place that suits also physically
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamel Hassell
    Infastracture is key no matter what you are doing.When you mention tech ,which particular niche with in the technology realm are you refering to ?
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      Originally Posted by MaxDavis024 View Post

      I think so
      Well, then - that settles it. Thanks for your deep insight and perspective. It's posts like yours that keep this forum so vibrant and meaningful.

      Time to lock this thread.
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    As within, so without.

    So....nope.
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  • Profile picture of the author beingsolutions
    As with most complex questions, the answer is: It depends.

    You can do many jobs anywhere -- including being a (marketing) guru. If you want to be an industry leader -- you are going to need to spend at least some time in a (or the) hotbed. If you want to build something at a scale that requires specific tech talent -- you will need to be in a tech node OR pay a productivity price for having a distributed team... unless you actually know how to manage from afar ( a small percentage managers know how to manage in-person, let alone at a distance). In the end, you can do most anything you want from many places -- and it gets harder the fewer 'special' ingredients at a hand.

    Finally, if you want an expert's deep opinion on this -- lookup Brad Feld and TechStars. He believes that any location can product GREAT startups. I personally think he is right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Angga Sejahtra
    of course it does, even when you yourself don't want it, there's always this people who question about it before start talking
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  • Profile picture of the author dsimms
    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

    I was reading about Musk and I paraphrase this quote from him:

    "I would not have been able to do what I did not start in California. Other places simply don't have the infrastructure"


    Then there was this article from Graham:

    How to Be Silicon Valley



    But these articles are dated. Musk and

    Today, with the internet taken for granted does it still matter where you live?


    If people that want to get into acting move to LA,

    do people that want to do tech startups still move to Silicon Valley?


    Thoughts?
    If you do not actually manufacture or produce anything out of the SV area, then there is really no reason you have to be in silicon valley, and I suspect some companies are there for mere bragging rights, not because they have to be there.
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Im going to chime in here. Does it matter? I think it does. Silicon Valley... Its the epi center of start ups.. and with that.. the money is there, the talent is there ( but kinda sorta not really Columbus OH is pretty hot right now for programmers and the like ) and MOST importantly... like minded people are there.

    Developing a start up is A LOT about the buzz, and it is oh so much easier when you are surrounded by like minded people in a tit for tat type environment. You buzz me.. Ill buzz you.

    Part of start up dev is getting the word out about your project. Creating interest or buzz.. is as much a part to possible success as the idea and the idea itself coming to life. Its really hard to do this outside the bubble as it were.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kuldeep Goyal
    Not any issue where you live. You need to do hard work for achieve anything in your life..
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  • Profile picture of the author hudsonbell79
    It's right if ten years ago. But now, you can work remotely as an online marketer, so no matter where you live.
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  • Profile picture of the author gadislade
    Avi says true "In fact, If you are on online business then it doesn't matter wherever you live"
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  • It still matters to some degree. Because at the end of the day, you have to sell to your market. If you can't get to your market, you can't sell. If you can't relate to your market, you'll be out of business.

    As an online marketer, yes you can live anywhere. But if you're catering to a specific market, having some local knowledge helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by John Jonas Phil VA View Post

      If you can't get to your market, you can't sell.
      What are you selling, bananas? This is an IM forum. The "I" stands for Internet. That's how we get to our market.

      Is it me, or, what???
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        What are you selling, bananas? This is an IM forum. The "I" stands for Internet. That's how we get to our market.

        Is it me, or, what???
        Except this is the "offline marketing" sub forum...

        So I guess it's you...!
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          Originally Posted by animal44 View Post

          So I guess it's you...!
          I guess it is. See that? There absolutely IS a first time for everything. :-)

          Thanks for being so gentle in your chiding. You know I'm a delicate soul.

          Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinCDrum
    Hi friend,
    In your geographical area just things when it any manner, form or shape strikes what for you todo. Where could a possible celebrity endure longer than LA or NYC? Fargo, ND, possibly.
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  • Profile picture of the author BFEditing
    It really depends on what you are doing and whether or not you need physical materials. There are mini Silicon Valleys in other states besides California. For example, Boston, Austin, Philadelphia--any major city.
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  • Depends on the business of course. Silicon Valley is for the leads you get and the people you meet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ahmed Asghar
    no it doesn't depend on where you live it depends on your behaviour
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Well if the real question is based on tech start-ups and it mattering where you live then yeah.

    In Silicon Valley on any given night, in any given bar there are a dozen guys with expertise and degrees that could while slightly intoxicated form a startup, business plan and likely secure funding from another few drunk guys playing pool.

    In Anchorage Alaska on any given night the crowd there could replace your crew on your crab boat...

    Now I not saying some of the folks in the bar in Silicon Valley don't catch crabs, but that is another story...
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  • Profile picture of the author MargaW
    Never been there so can't say anything from my experience but just yesterday I read an interesting story on Medium - "Why I'm leaving Silicon Valley"
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  • Profile picture of the author Mat Odysseus
    I'm a solopreneur and my business is entirely on the Internet. Where I am makes absolutely no difference at the moment as long as I can find a decent Internet connection, a somewhat comfortable chair and no violent regime dictating the country and chopping peoples' heads off

    If I would to expand my team and say hire developers, I would probably want to move where there's tons of developer talent. If I were to look for investors, my smartest move is to move in a place with plenty of investors. There are other factors as well, cost of living, business climate, even how much I just like the place.

    So, as you would expect - it depends
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  • Profile picture of the author Ervin Kalemi
    Thanks to the internet not anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author HiltonWeissnatweb
    I don't think it matters where you live. Just follow your passion in a right way.
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  • Profile picture of the author electricguitar
    Yes some times it is important. But this is will make any changes in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Sheley
    It only matters in terms of a local business. If your business is digital, you can live anywhere in the world.
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  • In my opnion it depends on what and how much you want to achieve. To setup a small gig, which can make upto a $XX,XXX revenue per month is totally doable and even from a garage. I've had the luck to meet many people like this and it was all about their contacts, amount of work they put and communication skills.

    However, if you want to scale, and have a company who invoices, let's say, a few million per month you need another setup, bigger city and bigger friends.

    I've been in both scenarios, luckily I've been able to experience a bit of both, but in my opinion i rather the 2 man show making $XX,XXX per month. You will enjoy alot more of your free time.

    And now, I'm about to start again, this time my partner will be my wife and we will work as hard as we can to achieve the $XX,XXX per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamila macaraeg
    where you lived matters in my own thoughts, because it is where you could be your true self and you'll learn who is the real you by knowing what you really want to achieve in life. It is where your personality will build up while growing up, that will reflect your attitude to other people and make an image out of it. From now a days, if you say a specific place they will tell you like "oh your this, your that" just because you came from "there", making an impression out of it.
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      Originally Posted by jamila macaraeg View Post

      where you lived matters in my own thoughts, because it is where you could be your true self and you'll learn who is the real you by knowing what you really want to achieve in life. It is where your personality will build up while growing up, that will reflect your attitude to other people and make an image out of it. From now a days, if you say a specific place they will tell you like "oh your this, your that" just because you came from "there", making an impression out of it.
      Jamila, just FYI, the Mind forum is thataway >>>>>>>


      I think you'll enjoy it.
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  • Profile picture of the author acnescars
    Yes this is very important to know where you are living in.Based on this only your details will be collected.
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  • Profile picture of the author erikrefuerzo
    I would say it also matters. Coz, you also have to adjust yourself depending on the environment where you in.
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  • Profile picture of the author bargainbed
    Surly it matters that where you are living. This will varies according to your location.
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