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5 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

Universe: Don't you think you could make the $100 you need today selling pencils on the corner?

Brainy Universe: Hire 1000 people to stand on 1000 corners and sell loadsa pencils. Pay 50% commission, keep 50% yourself. Job done in one day, no work.

Even brainier universe: Find someone already selling to people who need a pencil (stationery supplier?). Offer them deal to make an offer to their list. Job done in one day, no work and nobody stands on street corner annoying passerbys...

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Ron Lafuddy 5 years ago

"Brainy Universe: Hire 1000 people to stand on 1000 corners and sell loadsa pencils. Pay 50% commission, keep 50% yourself. Job done in one day, no work.

Even brainier universe: Find someone already selling to people who need a pencil (stationery supplier?). Offer them deal to make an offer to their list. Job done in one day, no work and nobody stands on street corner annoying passerbys"...

You are correct in your thinking. But, there is a gap between your thinking and the person that the OP is referring to.

If that person can't understand and ACT ON the OP's simple explanation and example for how things work in the universe, what are the chances that they will be able to act upon your advice?

There are always "steps to take" and "paths to follow". And there will always be people who can't or won't do them, no matter how good the advice.

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theDarkKnightMarketer

Banned 5 years ago

How do I nominate this post for post of the year?

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 5 years ago

Seems more like a Person's "self-talk" rather than "The Universe." Personally I think that's kind of strange.

2C.

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GordonJ 5 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0

Seems more like a Person's "self-talk" rather than "The Universe." Personally I think that's kind of strange.

2C.

Why?

You do have difficulty with many concepts here.
And although I know better...because you are on my TW list...

but it is a snowy day here and my Netflix/HBO/Amazon Prime watch list is complete...

Why do you think it is "kind of strange"????:

GordonJ

PS. TW= Time Waster, a list of 27 Warriors whom I normally ignore.
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- Jonathan 2.0 Banned 5 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GordonJ
  
  Why?
  
  So you communcate with "The Universe" to reach your goal(s)? Seem kind of silly to me.
  
  You do have difficulty with many concepts here.
  
  True. Nobody is perfect.
  
  PS. TW= Time Waster, a list of 27 Warriors whom I normally ignore.
  
  That's a shame.
  
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Highest And Best

5 years ago

That was great!

Seriously, I thought your post was going to be meaningless, but it was great.

Every newbie should read it!

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spartan14

5 years ago

Nice post and you need to be as clear as you can for universe to deliver what you want

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King Manu

5 years ago

Splitting your goals into bite-size pieces is a known method to achieve it faster. I like this idea.

I also agree that being willing to deposit the effort is necessary for success.

What I don't agree with is that you should do it with any random activity that can work. You have only one life and work is going to fill a lot of time. If you are doing something that makes you miserable then it doesn't matter how much money you make.

Therefore, to make this post perfect I would change "selling pencils" with "doing something you are passionate about".

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tagiscom

5 years ago

Originally Posted by King Manu

Splitting your goals into bite-size pieces is a known method to achieve it faster. I like this idea.

I also agree that being willing to deposit the effort is necessary for success.

What I don't agree with is that you should do it with any random activity that can work. You have only one life and work is going to fill a lot of time. If you are doing something that makes you miserable then it doesn't matter how much money you make.

Therefore, to make this post perfect I would change "selling pencils" with "doing something you are passionate about".

Unfortunately passionate, equates to effort that is effortless, or timeless, which add's up to a meager income.

I know l have spent many years before going online, chasing that one.

The only way around it is too get known so your name increases inherent value, and in the uncertain economic times we live in, not advisable.

Do what you like or can endure, that puts away the greenbacks, and you can go back to that later.

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max5ty

5 years ago

Originally Posted by King Manu

Therefore, to make this post perfect I would change "selling pencils" with "doing something you are passionate about".

Selling pencils may not be something we would be passionate about...

but when you rethink your thinking and realize you may have to sell pencils because you're passionate about reaching your goal, it can change your life.

Usually having a career at something we're passionate about means first being passionate about getting to that point.

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eccj

5 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

Selling pencils may not be something we would be passionate about...

but when you rethink your thinking and realize you may have to sell pencils because you're passionate about reaching your goal, it can change your life.

Usually having a career at something we're passionate about means first being passionate about getting to that point.

Something I've noted about "passion" businesses when I was 13 is that the people who run those types of businesses are miserable, snooty, and cynical. I learned this the hard way as a middle schooler who was "passionate" about paintball. All the dudes at the paintball fields and stores were bitter snobs. I've found the same thing in the golf industry, cars, weight lifting, fishing, sailing, etc.

Turning a passion into a business or career is a reliable recipe for misery from disappointment.

I would recommend getting into a business that you find interesting. Interests last lifetimes while passions are fleeting. Interests cause us to learn, tinker, stay up late, problem solve, etc.

And one more thing I believe helps: Fascination with business itself.

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Claude Whitacre

5 years ago

Originally Posted by eccj

I would recommend getting into a business that you find interesting. Interests last lifetimes while passions are fleeting. Interests cause us to learn, tinker, stay up late, problem solve, etc.

And one more thing I believe helps: Fascination with business itself.

That needed repeating.

A problem with making our passion your business is that you concentrate on the passion...and ignore the business.

The most important part of owning a business...is to treat it like a business.

If it's a paintball business (whatever that is), if you spend all day playing paintball, you'll go out of business. You need to be interested in the business end of it.

I sell vacuum cleaners.

But I'm not in the vacuum cleaner business. I'm in the marketing business. Vacuums just happen to be what I sell. And I talk to people who own vacuum cleaner stores...and they want to talk about vacuum cleaners.

Me? I want to talk about advertising. marketing, selling, inventory control, pricing,....

The successful guys are business owners first,, and enthusiasts second.

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King Manu

5 years ago

Yeah, I'd rather listen to the advice of highly successful individuals that created empires or changed the world by following their passions.

Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing.

- Theodore Roosevelt

Follow your own passion - not your parents', not your teachers'- yours.

- Robert Ballard

Passion is the genesis of genius.

- Anthony Robbins

Almost everything-all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure-these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

- Steve Jobs

People should pursue what they're passionate about. That will make them happier than pretty much anything else.

- Elon Musk

Whether you've found your calling, or if you're still searching, passion should be the fire that drives your life's work.

- Michael Dell

I don't say that you can't sell pencils until you get to your passion. In fact, you should do anything you can to reach that. My point was that working at something that you are not passionate about or not going there is not worth it, no matter how easier is to make money otherwise. At least, that's my pov.

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max5ty

5 years ago

Originally Posted by King Manu

Yeah, I'd rather listen to the advice of highly successful individuals that created empires or changed the world by following their passions.

I don't say that you can't sell pencils until you get to your passion. In fact, you should do anything you can to reach that. My point was that working at something that you are not passionate about or not going there is not worth it, no matter how easier is to make money otherwise. At least, that's my pov.

If the way you do things is going good and you're rolling in the cash doing it/or plan to someday...by all means keep on keeping on.

We're all different. I see you do 500-word articles for $20 and also do work on Fiverr. Not my style but if it's yours, you go.

Thanks for your input.

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Ron Lafuddy

5 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

If the way you do things is going good and you're rolling in the cash doing it/or plan to someday...by all means keep on keeping on.

We're all different. I see you do 500-word articles for $20 and also do work on Fiverr. Not my style but if it's yours, you go.

Thanks for your input.

Good thread but it appears to have been hijacked by the "Mind-Hive Sig Stalkers".
Thanks for trying.

Ron

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ryanbiddulph

5 years ago

Do what ya love doing, so you practice your bum off while not getting a cent and in time, all your creating and connecting helps you live a dream life, versus being in Survival Mode. How I did it; seems to be working A-OK hehehehe.

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Princess Balestra

5 years ago

I would so love to have skim-read this post to Millennial perfection packs maxo SUMMARY PUNCHLINE WAHOO ... but tbh, coolest part always 'bout any relationship between ourselves an' the Universe is how dialog is so intrinsic prolly we could birth unicorns offa the f*cker if'n only we would wanna sit down sumtimes without invitin' ubiquitous projectiles au fanj.

Always, there is dialog.

Most exactly, always there is dialog when we mebbe got nowan else we speakin' with ... an' it is here when the introspectively reflective an' the SHAZZAMO EGO got a cognitive dissonance choice 'bout what happnin' tamara mebbe reads OK.

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savidge4

5 years ago

I think the H U G E hang up with online endeavors is not so much the TOPIC / NICHE one chooses, its the PROCESS of creating success that gets into the way.

I can have an interest or passion in anything... BUT, if I don't like writing... A blog is probably not for me.

I can have an interest or passion in anything... BUT, if I don't like speaking in front of crowds... then public speaking is not for me.

I can have an interest or passion in anything... BUT, I don't like the way I look on video... then a future in YouTube is probably not for me.

I can have an interest or passion in anything... BUT, I fear asking for money... then selling is not for me.

I can have an interest or passion in anything... BUT, if I don't understand MY value... I will be severely underpaid and overworked, by my own doing.

I todays world... YOU can have an interest or passion in anything... BUT, if you don't have passion or an interest in the PROCESS, you will be spinning your wheels.

My TRUE passion is programming... more specifically back end data base programming.. data in, data out. Such a passion, it literally almost killed me. In my last year alone as a "Programmer" I can recall 38 weeks of 5+ days no sleep, no food.

My home office, it was literally 5 steps to the bathroom. My desk.. 2 monitors, a computer, A keyboard, a mouse, a coffee maker I used, another in a box, 2 cases of coffee, a gallon jug of water ( I would fill in the bathroom sink ) and a carton of cigarettes.

After leaving that job... My ex boss said something as he was trying to hire me back... "Your greatest asset is not programming, its problem solving" and THAT is when it clicked for me. My personal passion today is OUTCOMES more importantly.. POSITIVE Outcomes.

I can apply data in and data out to ANYTHING... It has nothing to do with the Niche or the Subject or even an interest... I have passion in creating results to problems.

And this is why I am a service provider 90% of the time... I lead a boring problem free life. I thrive on solving problems and I don't have any... So I find clients that are willing to pay me to fix theirs - a win win really.

I think its those of us ( and there are a few that have responded to this thread ) that have passion in the process, and are the ones that succeed. An ends to a means and I have to get my tail on the corner and sell pencils... Id be on that corner.

Heck just yesterday, an ends to a means I was up and down 3 blocks, in and out of stores updating Google maps listings - for FREE no less - and it gets better, I drove an hour and a half each way to get to those 3 blocks ( up hill, in the snow )

Speaking very broadly, but not really... the issue is the younger generations are one that has set value on doing less for more, and expecting that - in everything. They have literally grown up with the world at their finger tips ( the internet ) and don't see it as a tool, but rather, just a part of their existence.

Can you imagine living in a time in history when anything and everything is literally a "Hey Google" away? That time is now. I mean Im on the boat right.. I get it, my 10 yr old son... he is the capt of the ship. We live in crazy times, and more and more there is this gap between success as many of us see it ( long term ) and INSTANT gratification. The later, is perceived as the former, in the up and coming hey google generations.

Anyways.. I have rambled enough.. thanks for the GREAT post max5ty!

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Claude Whitacre

5 years ago

Originally Posted by savidge4

I can apply data in and data out to ANYTHING... It has nothing to do with the Niche or the Subject or even an interest... I have passion in creating results to problems.

You really hit on something there.

Once you master a process, you can apply it to anything.

My Kung Fu instructor once told me that if I master a technique...I have a technique. but if I understand the principle behind it, I now have thousands of techniques...because I know why it works.

Of course, this can be applied to any business or interest.

A book on How To Sell With Webinars is far more valuable than a book on How To Sell Shoes.. Because if you know how to sell shoes, you're in the Shoe business. But if you know how to sell with webinars, you're in the marketing business...and you can apply it to anything....including shoes. The process is more important than the product.

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Alex Cohen

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

My Kung Fu instructor once told me that if I master a technique...I have a technique. but if I understand the principle behind it, I now have thousands of techniques...because I know why it works.

Those guys have to say stuff like that. Helps them get a higher rate.

Once, as my Kung Fu instructor was drinking a bottle of 7-Up, he told me, "You like it; it likes you." For many years, I thought that was profound.

Until, of course, I realized it was just an advertising slogan.

Alex

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Claude Whitacre

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Cohen

Those guys have to say stuff like that. Helps them get a higher rate.

Once, as my Kung Fu instructor was drinking a bottle of 7-Up, he told me, "You like it; it likes you." For many years, I thought that was profound.

Until, of course, I realized it was just an advertising slogan.

Alex

HA!

I'm not joking. I once hurt my arm as a little kid, and I went crying to my Dad. He said "It will stop hurting when the pain goes away". Honest to God, I thought he made a profound statement. I thought he knew a secret.

In fact, after it stopped hurting, I thought "He was right. The pain did go away".

Strange how things like that stick in the memory.

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Alex Cohen

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

HA!

I'm not joking. I once hurt my arm as a little kid, and I went crying to my Dad. He said "It will stop hurting when the pain goes away". Honest to God, I thought he made a profound statement. I thought he knew a secret.

In fact, after it stopped hurting, I thought "He was right. The pain did go away".

Strange how things like that stick in the memory.

LOL, good one.

Yes, it is strange. We remember only a smattering of our life experiences. For some reason, the mind only holds onto a few of them.

Unless of course you're one of only 12 people in the world diagnosed with hyperthymesia.

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Johnarcher

5 years ago

Guilty as charged, but working on making changes. Adding value to the WF where possible to prepare for upcoming ventures. And learning a lot in the process. As well as smiling here and there.

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akshay7

5 years ago

I believe it is a phase. The phase of procrastination and research. It prepares us for the actions we take tomorrow. Just gotta keep the cycle going - Learn, apply, learn....

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