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Having my own food delivery business ....

by discrat
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I have been doing it the last 5 1/2 years. Make between $25-$35 hour with HEB Favor, Uber Eats, DoorDash, and Walmart's Spark. I have all four apps running at the same time on my phone to maximize my earnings. .

One variable I take very serious is the earnings per mile. With this , I accept offers with no less than $2 earned per mile. In other wards, when I get an Offer on my phone and it is for $10 I will drive no farther than 5 miles. (Yes, it gives these metrics before we Accept) Otherwise I will decline the offer !!

Anyway, I will be more than happy to answer any questions from those who are thinking about starting this small delivery business
#business #delivery #food
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  • Profile picture of the author Ava Henrry
    That sounds interesting. You are doing good and give me some suggestions too for making a big growth in business. I am planning to start online business of Wristbands.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Gosh discrat, I'd bet there might be a market for some information about how to do this, maybe a short report or a couple of hotsheets. Sprinkle in some stories of your most memorable deliveries, and set up an Automatic Product Vending site. Take a few minutes, and maybe even might be worth a couple of hours of drive time you don't have to do.

    Just a thought.

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    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I have been doing it the last 5 1/2 years. Make between $25-$35 hour with HEB Favor, Uber Eats, DoorDash, and Walmart's Spark. I have all four apps running at the same time on my phone.

    One variable I take very serious is the earnings per mile. With this , I accept offers with no less than $2 earned per mile. In other wards, when I get an Offer on my phone and it is for $10 I will drive no farther than 5 miles. (Yes, it gives these metrics before we Accept) Otherwise I will decline the offer !!
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Have you ever considered delivering for one of the local food businesses, like a Pizzeria?
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      Have you ever considered delivering for one of the local food businesses, like a Pizzeria?
      Yeah Don I have really not. They seem to not pay much. Plus, I like calling my own shots i.e. seeing my dollar amount in tip and the required amount of miles driving before I Accept it or Decline the Offer. Plus, totally setting my own hours and everything. I know some people may chuckle as it's just DoorDash and Uber eats but honestly it really is having your own small business. Even better than a small business because I can turn down business with the push of a button.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    Have you thought about branching out independently and launching your own app ?
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Jamell View Post

      Have you thought about branching out independently and launching your own app ?
      Yeah, I wouldn't know where to start. Honestly, for me at least it goes back to the notion " why reinvent the wheel " when you don't have to
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    My main question was do u find a lot of competition since just eat are on of the biggest, and well known do u get a lot of ordes when u just start out i just wondered
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Moodesburn1977 View Post

      My main question was do u find a lot of competition since just eat are on of the biggest, and well known do u get a lot of ordes when u just start out i just wondered
      I live in San Antonio which is a huge market. So no problems with competition.

      And yes I get a lot of orders especially with Uber Eats
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Honestly, for me at least it goes back to the notion " why reinvent the wheel " when you don't have to

    I think you are right on that. There is a local food delivery service that has been in business in the small city near us for a couple years now. Most of their advertising is based on 'we're here, too- use us, we're local' but truth is all the delivery drivers are 'local'. They seem to be struggling to get a share of the market.



    The name recognition of doordash and ubereats is worth a lot. Smarter to work for all of them on your terms than to try to create your version of the wheel.


    I think your experience/knowledge of how the delivery business works could be a valuable 'info' source. Short ebooks about profit potential, how to organize your time using multiple apps, how to set up delivery for a full time income, how to organize/manage a delivery business, etc. Nothing too expensive but a group of products sold through ads and maybe put together as a kindle book....would bring in additional income without much effort. Your knowledge of the business is valuable - use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Thank you Kay and Gordon. Really valuable tips. Iam going to work on that as there seems to be a demand for people to find ways to earn on the side on their own terms
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Walmart's Spark program kept me really really busy today. Lots of valentines stuff. It is new compared to the other ones I do. I really like their program for getting paid to deliver Walmart groceries to customers. Had a $28 order that took me 45 minutes to complete

        Iam going to have to sit down and compare the delivery apps with one another and see which is the most profitable
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    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I have been doing it the last 5 1/2 years. Make between $25-$35 hour with HEB Favor, Uber Eats, DoorDash, and Walmart's Spark. I have all four apps running at the same time on my phone to maximize my earnings. .

    One variable I take very serious is the earnings per mile. With this , I accept offers with no less than $2 earned per mile. In other wards, when I get an Offer on my phone and it is for $10 I will drive no farther than 5 miles. (Yes, it gives these metrics before we Accept) Otherwise I will decline the offer !!

    Anyway, I will be more than happy to answer any questions from those who are thinking about starting this small delivery business
    You mention that you make $25-35 per hour, but out of curiosity, is there enough work spread out throughout the day to, let's say, work a 40 hour full time week? Also, does that $25-35/hr figure account for expenses for things like car repairs that come from the work, or do you take a general mileage rate off your taxes at the end of the year to account for the wear and tear on your car?

    I ask for two reasons. One, I work with cult survivors that were denied educational opportunities and something like this could be a viable alternative for some. Two, I have in my head, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of people that do these jobs get screwed because they think they make good money but their expenses (parking, tolls, gas, possibly insurance if there's an extra cost to use the car for this type of work) ends up eating their hourly rate down significantly. I've done various contract work that involved driving in the distant past and I was fortunate to drive an older car that was just as reliable as you could ever hope for with great gas mileage, but I really lucked out there and I don't think many are that lucky.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by umc View Post

      You mention that you make $25-35 per hour, but out of curiosity, is there enough work spread out throughout the day to, let's say, work a 40 hour full time week? Yes, if you have multiple apps running at the same time Also, does that $25-35/hr figure account for expenses for things like car repairs that come from the work, or do you take a general mileage rate off your taxes at the end of the year to account for the wear and tear on your car? No, that is my gross profit not net profit .

      I ask for two reasons. One, I work with cult survivors that were denied educational opportunities and something like this could be a viable alternative for some. Two, I have in my head, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of people that do these jobs get screwed because they think they make good money but their expenses (parking, tolls, gas, possibly insurance if there's an extra cost to use the car for this type of work) ends up eating their hourly rate down significantly. Iam definitely not getting screwed. Those expenses are minuscule compared to the income I am bringing in.I've done various contract work that involved driving in the distant past and I was fortunate to drive an older car that was just as reliable as you could ever hope for with great gas mileage, but I really lucked out there and I don't think many are that lucky.
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        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        My response in Bold.
        Thanks Robert, glad to hear that it's so good for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Regarding getting screwed over and net income.
      I know a couple of people who do the Uber/Lyft thing. One drives a sedan 4-8pm weekdays and 8 to 6 Saturdays, 8-5 Sundays.


      Ends up with about 550 miles a week (drives in Chicago). Makes (gross ) between $1050 to $1250/week, with a net (they use the $0.65/mile, tolls, phone, car washes) of $700-$900/week. Last year, working 36-40 hours a week, they ended up grossing 51000 and change.


      The other person drives an SUV, drives mostly nights, says he grosses $1500 a week, with about $500 in expenses.


      Smaller cities, suburbs, you probably have to drive farther to pickup rides and have more down time (though, in my area, some suburbs are surging like crazy when I want to hire an Uber (sometimes $20 per ride). So, it depends on where these people are.


      Chicago, New York, Houston are probably different than Boise, Idaho in terms of demand for Ubers and such... Cost of living is lower. Might just balance out.


      Oh, both of them say they accept few of the rides Uber offers them. Seems like Uber will offer them, in the space of minutes, rides that pay like this:

      $3 for 7 minutes, 2 miles
      $4.55 for 16 minutes, 4.5 miles
      $17 for 6 minutes, 3.5 miles
      $17 for 55 minutes, 16 miles.


      So, they keep saying no to ride offers till they get one that makes sense. Which seems to be about 20-25% of the time, according to the first person I mentioned.


      I have gotten to see tax returns for many rideshare drivers. At least 20 in the last 2 years, none of the ones that did it 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year, grossed more than $55,000.


      Uber says drivers can make as much as $90,000. And that's true and false at the same time. I've seen year-end tax documents for several people. The gross Uber declares is often in the 80-90k range. But they include the whole amount riders pay. Then, they break down the city fees, airport fees, etc., and the rider's share drops down to about half of that.



      Originally Posted by umc View Post

      You mention that you make $25-35 per hour, but out of curiosity, is there enough work spread out throughout the day to, let's say, work a 40 hour full time week? Also, does that $25-35/hr figure account for expenses for things like car repairs that come from the work, or do you take a general mileage rate off your taxes at the end of the year to account for the wear and tear on your car?

      I ask for two reasons. One, I work with cult survivors that were denied educational opportunities and something like this could be a viable alternative for some. Two, I have in my head, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of people that do these jobs get screwed because they think they make good money but their expenses (parking, tolls, gas, possibly insurance if there's an extra cost to use the car for this type of work) ends up eating their hourly rate down significantly. I've done various contract work that involved driving in the distant past and I was fortunate to drive an older car that was just as reliable as you could ever hope for with great gas mileage, but I really lucked out there and I don't think many are that lucky.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        Regarding getting screwed over and net income.
        I know a couple of people who do the Uber/Lyft thing. One drives a sedan 4-8pm weekdays and 8 to 6 Saturdays, 8-5 Sundays.


        Ends up with about 550 miles a week (drives in Chicago). Makes (gross ) between $1050 to $1250/week, with a net (they use the $0.65/mile, tolls, phone, car washes) of $700-$900/week. Last year, working 36-40 hours a week, they ended up grossing 51000 and change.


        The other person drives an SUV, drives mostly nights, says he grosses $1500 a week, with about $500 in expenses.


        Smaller cities, suburbs, you probably have to drive farther to pickup rides and have more down time (though, in my area, some suburbs are surging like crazy when I want to hire an Uber (sometimes $20 per ride). So, it depends on where these people are.


        Chicago, New York, Houston are probably different than Boise, Idaho in terms of demand for Ubers and such... Cost of living is lower. Might just balance out.


        Oh, both of them say they accept few of the rides Uber offers them. Seems like Uber will offer them, in the space of minutes, rides that pay like this:

        $3 for 7 minutes, 2 miles
        $4.55 for 16 minutes, 4.5 miles
        $17 for 6 minutes, 3.5 miles
        $17 for 55 minutes, 16 miles.



        Uber says drivers can make as much as $90,000. And that's true and false at the same time. I've seen year-end tax documents for several people. The gross Uber declares is often in the 80-90k range. But they include the whole amount riders pay. Then, they break down the city fees, airport fees, etc., and the rider's share drops down to about half of that.
        I call b.s. on them . No way , imo!! I know I do the Uber eats which is different than Uber Rideshare. But I have turned on the App on my phone just to see what some of the offers run and it's comparable to Uber Eats. And outside of working 15 hours a day 7 days a week ... well it's just not possible to earn that much
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          FTC did one better: they sued Uber and won: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...misled-drivers.

          The few who gross 90k have expenses. If they're like you and want $2/mile, they must have driven 45000 miles a year. That means they go through a car in 5 years (4?). Those who live in my area paid about $15000 in gas only. Then you need some oil changes, tires and tire rotation. Out of 90k, you're probably left with 60k. If you did that working 60 hours a week (I cannot see it happening on 40 hours), you're left with some 30/hour, so better than minimum wage. But I hear stories that drivers are goin 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. Which puts you, in my area, at about $1.5 over minimum wage, based on my estimates.

          In any case, last ride I got, the driver was talkative. Older guy, maybe 65. Said he works 6 days a week, 10 hours a day, grosses 1200 a week. He rents his car from Hertz (through Uber) for $340 a week. So, he is left with $860 a week. He does not pay for maintenance but still has gas to pay for. He estimates he drives 600 miles a week. He says he averages 29 miles a gallon. That means he's spending some $85 a week on gas. So, he's really left with $755 a week. 755/60=12.58/hour. County minimum wage is $14.75. He does not drive nights.

          He, by the way, figures he nets $900 to 950/week. Either way, he definitely is not making $90k a year.

          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          I call b.s. on them . No way , imo!! I know I do the Uber eats which is different than Uber Rideshare. But I have turned on the App on my phone just to see what some of the offers run and it's comparable to Uber Eats. And outside of working 15 hours a day 7 days a week ... well it's just not possible to earn that much
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Just got back in the swing of things after spending a week at the beach. I hit the road yesterday morning and had some productive hours !!

            Still mulling over the possibility of doing Uber Rideshare. Just very hesitant of people getting in and out of my Mazda
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    If I have my own food delivery business, maybe I will use autonomous mobile robots, way cooler
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  • Profile picture of the author sbrewingcompany
    That's impressive! Balancing more than one transport app and maximizing revenue per mile indicates your dedication and strategic approach. Your ride and willingness to share insights can be treasured by those thinking about beginning a transport business. Keep up the precise work.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    As I said earlier , Iam running 4 different food delivery apps. at the same time on my phone. Trying to add a 5th one with Grub Hub but there is a waiting list to get on with them. Out of the 4 I run, I have to give Uber Eats the nod as far as profitability. Unlike Doordash, you do not have to see if they have areas available to run. I just log onto my Uber Eats app. and they start throwing me food delivery orders immediately.

    I forgot to add that another good reason to have multiple apps. running is that if you in some way get your acct. deactivated from one of them you have another food delivery app. to fall back on. Thank goodness I have not had this problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Still going strong with the food delivery side hustle of mine. Had a really good week with HEB Favor. That's the one I do that centers around delivery of groceries.

      I had one experience with HEB Favor that I have never had in over 5 years of doing it. I delivered groceries to a nursing home which I have done countless times..The woman was bed bound and when I knocked she told me to come in. Well she then proceeded to tell me where to put EVERY single grocery item she ordered. Milk and fruit in the fridge, cookies and soup in the pantry, candy and chocolates in the bowl , toilet paper in the bathroom etc... etc..etc,,It was a lot!!

      I could have complained because this is not part of my job description. But you know what ?? I was more than happy to help this sickly woman in the bed. It made my day to do that for her. It truly did. And she was grateful too. So a win-win
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Slow week but I get the majority ,probably over 75%, of my earnings on Saturday and Sunday for this delivery business
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        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        I could have complained because this is not part of my job description. But you know what ?? I was more than happy to help this sickly woman in the bed. It made my day to do that for her. It truly did. And she was grateful too. So a win-win
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    nice that's interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author Score Cred10
    Sounds pretty interesting how you organize the earnings per mile. Looks professional!

    Now, speaking of experiences in the delivery business, let me tell you a little story. It so happened with me one day while I was working with DoorDash. I was doing deliveries, really diligently, just like you would do, having multiple apps open--DoorDash, Uber Eats, HEB Favor, and Walmart's Spark--all in an effort to optimize my money. That is when an unexpected roadblock emerged in the middle of my shift: my doordash deactivation appeal.

    Initially, I was very confused; the sudden stop in my deliveries was depressing, and DoorDash was my main source of income. Contacting their support team, I looked for reasons, but they sent me computerized responses that gave no hint about what was really going on. That was the stressful time: trying to look for another source of income while dealing with the uncertainty if I was ever going to get my account back with DoorDash.

    Not giving up, I kept up the flexibility my job with the multiple apps afforded me, keeping my income flowing. Sure enough, weeks later, I did get my DoorDash account back, but without ever finding out why I had been deactivated.

    It taught me how diversified your sources of income have to be and to be prepared for the unexpected in the gig economy. Driving can be lucrative, but it needs one to be flexible and resilient in the face of adversity.

    If you ever think of getting into the delivery entrepreneurship business, I will be glad to share all that I can from my experiences through the years of going through this dynamic and, at times, unpredictable industry. So please feel free to ask any questions you want, and I will try to share whatever knowledge I have to help you succeed in your endeavors.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    An interesting fact. I know a couple of people who do the Uber thing (in big cities). They go for a minimum of 50 cents a minute. The interesting part? They end up with at least $2 per mile at the end of a week, including the driving to hot spots (and any driving they do without passanger, like going to a store to buy lunch).

    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I have been doing it the last 5 1/2 years. Make between $25-$35 hour with HEB Favor, Uber Eats, DoorDash, and Walmart's Spark. I have all four apps running at the same time on my phone to maximize my earnings. .

    One variable I take very serious is the earnings per mile. With this , I accept offers with no less than $2 earned per mile. In other wards, when I get an Offer on my phone and it is for $10 I will drive no farther than 5 miles. (Yes, it gives these metrics before we Accept) Otherwise I will decline the offer !!

    Anyway, I will be more than happy to answer any questions from those who are thinking about starting this small delivery business
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Been a slow as hell week. But looking forward to hitting the road early (like 5:30am) on Saturday and Sunday. And have a kick ass weekend with major earnings
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    Here is my ? everybody talk about how much money they make bur no one talks about how you save some of that money for taxes on your 1099 for the end of the year.
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      Originally Posted by brileyknox View Post

      Here is my ? everybody talk about how much money they make bur no one talks about how you save some of that money for taxes on your 1099 for the end of the year.
      The Envelope System.

      Grandma used to put money in envelopes for different purposes. One for Rent/Mortgage, One for property taxes, one for shopping, etc.

      Modern version is to open several saving accounts and move appropriate amounts to the given account as you get paid.
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  • Profile picture of the author W95
    I think this is a smart business strategy.
    Only accept work from people who are willing to pay!
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    "Just very hesitant of people getting in and out of my Mazda" You should get Seat covers and be prepared to clean up anything at any time. I joined LYFT at the end of the pandemic and saw the pay rate for the routes. I decided not to do it because of COVID-19 and a few incidents between drivers and passengers that hit the newsstands.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I would starve if Uber or Lyft was my only potential income.


    I don't like people well enough to put someone in my car and take them somewhere. That goes for half of my friends and family, too....
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post



      I don't like people well enough to put someone in my car and take them somewhere. That goes for half of my friends and family, too....
      Yeah there are just too many weirdos out there. And the level of respect people have for one another in our society is such at an all time low... well I just do not trust strangers in my car
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Had a really strong day today in my food delivery business. Did a couple of orders from Walmart Spark which is kind of unusual for me. The fact is I have not been getting many orders lately that are worth accepting with it. But today did $53 and change for 1.5 hour work on this platform

        The rest of my orders were Uber Eats and HEB Favor
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Is your next WSO going to be "How to make $53.00 in 1.5 hours driving for Walmart"?
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      Is your next WSO going to be "How to make $53.00 in 1.5 hours driving for Walmart"?
      lol...Don it might do better than some of the ones in there
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      • Profile picture of the author max5ty
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        lol...Don it might do better than some of the ones in there
        Don't know how WSOs do here because I've never done one...

        but I think you could definitely do an ebook or course on it!
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

          Don't know how WSOs do here because I've never done one...

          but I think you could definitely do an ebook or course on it!
          Yeah I could or they could just go on YT and find some FREE amazing courses that I have used my own self

          Granted that I do realize people are willing to pay for concise and well organized info. that they "perceive" as valuable!!
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            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Yeah I could or they could just go on YT and find some FREE amazing courses that I have used my own self

            Granted that I do realize people are willing to pay for concise and well organized info. that they "perceive" as valuable!!
            Pretty much everything out there is available online these days...

            but, people will pay for personal experiences if it teaches them something.

            Even with all the AI answers and the ease it offers...people will pay to learn something you've personally accomplished because it gives them first hand knowledge of the ups and downs.
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Had such a good week from Mon-Thurs. I decided to take the day off. And it felt soooo
              good to sleep til 9am!!

              Anyway, back to the road tomorrow as I gear up for my biggest day (Saturday) and wake up at 5am
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              • Profile picture of the author discrat
                Rise and shine. I'm on it !!!!
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                • Profile picture of the author discrat
                  Well after today and yesterday Walmart Spark (delivering Walmart groceries) has been my biggest Earner. Iam a little surprised because since early January when I started this platform it had been sporadic at best.

                  But my last delivery today I earned $39 with a total of 50 minutes to complete. And it was for three small orders. So it was easy peasy hauling the groceries from my car to the customer's doorstep.

                  Btw, what I really want to do is get on Amazon Flex which I hear is very lucrative. Iam on a waiting list for that platform for my area
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                  • Profile picture of the author discrat
                    Had a great weekend on my food delivery business !! Got nearly 60% of my earnings for the whole week on Saturday and Sunday.

                    Once again it was led by Walmart Spark. Cannot say enough good things about this platform

                    Anyway, gearing up for a big week starting tomorrow cheers
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                    • Profile picture of the author discrat
                      Once again I was reminded today why I do and enjoy this gig so much. I got a Walmart Spark order and it was a short trip for only one customer for Walmart groceries. It was for just over $24. It took 30 minutes to complete.
                      And I got home later in the day and find out on my stats the customer gave me a total of $84.86 for my tip.

                      I couldn't believe it . Really stoked
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Upcoming WSO. See how I make close to $100.00 a day in 30 minutes, while I drive around listening to the radio :>) On a more serious note are you spending more time working for Walmart?
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      Upcoming WSO. See how I make close to $100.00 a day in 30 minutes, while I drive around listening to the radio :>) On a more serious note are you spending more time working for Walmart?
      Yeah Don, lately I have. Walmart has been really good.

      P.S. And that about sums up any WSO I would make lol
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