What's your biggest frustration/challenge getting started?

by Dexx
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I hear a lot of members within the community talking of various areas where they feel 'stuck' in getting results in their offline consulting/marketing businesses.

Could make a for a valuable resource to have a thread where people getting started can come look at what frustrations/challenges others have had before them, and how they overcame them.

That's one thing that made the Big Offline thread such a hot resource, was the constant suggestions and feedback from the Warriors inside it that had already been getting results...

So, for those of you just getting started, or whom have already landed some clients, what areas are/were you initially stuck on...

I know myself, and some people know the story, one thing that I dropped the ball on HUGE when I was getting started landing clients was I kept rushing the sale too fast, and came off way to "salesman-like" in my approach.

How did I fix it?

I turned to a more consultive approach, listening to the prospect to identify where they currently were, where they want to go, and what they were currently doing to get there...then I'd make one suggestion for proceeding forward with (removes the overwhelming confusion of providing multiple ideas at once) and then after the suggestion was implemented, would proceed to suggest the next! =)

That is when I really started getting results!

How about you guys and gals?

~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Domino
    I won't speak for anyone else, but it most likely comes down to overload.

    Anyone taking action can probably go and find a client within a week (ie cold calling 100 cold companies every day).

    But positioning the right way sounds like a daunting task. Especially if you don't "know someone who knows someone that has a business" and can give you your first success that you can leverage after.

    I read the offline thread way late (started reading it last week) and it sounds like something I can do, more profitably than IM itself. Takes a lot of digital product sales to match what some of the posters reported extracting from clients.

    Setting up the operation the right way (somewhat ranked website, sales funnel, "book", networking, other credibility stuff), however, seem like a PITA. Well worth it mid term, for sure, but it's not like you can get up one morning, get a bunch of clients and make 20k/month.

    I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. Very interested but intimidated at the initial set-up, especially if they don't start with contacts to use. Same as Bob Serling's stuff, which I think I've seen you comment on in another thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy James
      Yeah. So, if I could just get one client - I think that would help "establish" me so I could get going. Something about getting traction.
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  • Profile picture of the author supermantoday
    i like your suggestion of "turned to a more consultive approach, listening to the prospect to identify where they currently were, where they want to go, and what they were currently doing to get there...then I'd make one suggestion for proceeding forward with (removes the overwhelming confusion of providing multiple ideas at once) and then after the suggestion was implemented, would proceed to suggest the next! =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Ho
    Mostly it's the fear of rejection or the fear of meeting new people that stops people from offline marketing.. the method may be solid or bring in millions a year but as long as there's cold calling, personal visits, face to face negotiation etc. most people get turned off immediately.. It's a mental block that's all it is really..
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    • Profile picture of the author stacyfox
      For me, it was getting over the idea that I was going to offer "SEO" and start listening to what the clients needed. They didn't care about SEO. They cared about Google Places, adwords, getting a website up and a million other things. Once I started listening to them, I could make sales easily.

      Stacy
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      • Profile picture of the author Dexx
        Originally Posted by stacyfox View Post

        They cared about Google Places, adwords, getting a website up and a million other things. Once I started listening to them, I could make sales easily.

        Stacy
        If you dig deeper Stacy...do you believe the business owners really care about the methods being used...or is the end results they BELIEVE they provide that they are wanting you to deliver...

        ...Once you understand THAT change in needs analysis, you will truly be able to bring in money like turning a faucet tap! =)

        Cheers,

        ~Dexx
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    • Profile picture of the author abednego
      Originally Posted by Paul Ho View Post

      Mostly it's the fear of rejection or the fear of meeting new people that stops people from offline marketing.. the method may be solid or bring in millions a year but as long as there's cold calling, personal visits, face to face negotiation etc. most people get turned off immediately.. It's a mental block that's all it is really..
      I was just listening to the news on my morning commute; and they were talking about a study on how men are generally better than women in business -- simply because they deal with rejection a lot more in social situations; and can apply that to business.

      Not sure if I agree with it; but it was thought provoking.
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      • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
        Dexx,

        Good idea for all Business Consultants, offline, online, in between lines. Heres my immediate thoughts...

        Consultants have no idea what business they are in...Most will say IM consulting, i could not DISAGREE MORE... Folks you are in...(drumroll please)

        You are in the RESULTS BUSINESS for BUSINESS'S

        By first identifying what business your in, you can then create a business plan, infiltrate it with tactics and strategies, and then Execute that plan for Massive Results.

        Business owners care about one thing and one thing only...ROI-Results and nothing more. Thats why they started a business in the first place. If they were starting a charity they would have opened a 501-3c instead.

        Search my name, i just wrote a Monsterously long post on this topic earlier today, its so long, you might need to get some coffee and cookies cause its going to take a while to read.

        Lastly... Don't spend more than a few minutes a day getting ready, so many offline soldiers spend an obscene amount of time getting ready to get ready.

        Like NIKE says...JUST DO IT Take Massive ACTION RIGHT NOW!!!

        To Your continued success,
        Robert Nelson
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  • Profile picture of the author Irishman
    For me it was much the same as a few mentioned above. Sadly, I was actually fired by a client about 6 weeks into a job several years ago when I first started. Humiliating, sure, but it taught me a very valuable and perhaps business saving lesson.

    I went out there with my "business in a box" mentality selling the business owners on my one-size-fits-all package, watching them get all lathered up about how many searches were done on a keyword and how getting them on Google page 1 was the end all answer to unlock the riches never seen before. :/

    When that didn't turn into customers and I was faced with a really humiliating conversation, I did a 180 on my approach to offline marketing, and I'll never look back.

    Now, I look at the value I can bring to business owners, based on my full marketing "toolbox" and customize my strategies for each client. Yes, it is primarily about listening. I found such freedom, and authenticity when I put down my little business in a box, and started being a real consultant. A trusted adviser.

    I was less interested in landing the client, and more interested in how I might be able to build a solid marketing strategy, specific to that client, that absolutely crushes their competition. The paradigm change brought with it unexpected bonuses.

    1. A sincere desire to help a business owner removes the need for a sales pitch... it just naturally forms through a genuine consultative relationship. (at least that's my experience)

    2. I felt empowered, to the point where I've walked away from 2 nice chunks of business simply because I didn't believe the owners were ready for a consultant. They wanted a "yes man" that they could still hold accountable for any lack of fulfilled expectations. No thanks.

    3. It's a completely awesome feeling to have the freedom to creatively customize a strategy, where I can mix and match all the diverse marketing knowledge I've gathered over time. To me, it's what floats my boat. My creative outlet.

    So overall, my failure became my greatest motivation for change. I love the offline businesses, and I love it even more when you can just be yourself, while looking out for the business owners best interest.

    Win-win.

    Coach John Wooden said it best for me; "Happiness begins, where selfishness ends."

    Will
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by Irishman View Post


      I went out there with my "business in a box" mentality selling the business owners on my one-size-fits-all package, watching them get all lathered up about how many searches were done on a keyword and how getting them on Google page 1 was the end all answer to unlock the riches never seen before. :/

      When that didn't turn into customers and I was faced with a really humiliating conversation, I did a 180 on my approach to offline marketing, and I'll never look back.

      Now, I look at the value I can bring to business owners, based on my full marketing "toolbox" and customize my strategies for each client. Yes, it is primarily about listening. I found such freedom, and authenticity when I put down my little business in a box, and started being a real consultant. A trusted adviser.
      Exactly. Well done! =)

      ~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    "Happiness begins, where selfishness ends." John Wooden

    I'm stealing that one and putting it in the "quote" text document of mine.

    I agree with what others have said. When I first started out, I was honestly just afraid of coming across "salesy" in any of my lead-generating approaches. I know everyone hates "sales guys", but I realllllllly hate "salesy-hypey-in your face" stuff.

    The problem comes when you are trying to be confidant in your approach and abilities, but still use the "consultant" angle, well sometimes I'd get paranoid I was being "salesy". I think all of the over-saturation of HYPE BUY ME NOW INTERNET MARKETING mentality really makes question my approaches sometimes too. If anything, being exposed to all of the GENERAL IM HOOLAH on the daily, I feel that it allows me to develop a unique consultant approach that is essentially the opposite of the "BUY ME NOW" stuff that gets pushed online. But I still second-guess myself sometimes.

    Basically, a lot of what people hate about internet marketing in general (but it obviously works/converts), simply does not translate well in the "real world". Though this is obvious to many, it still affects my lead generation approaches in a heavy way.

    - Jim
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  • Profile picture of the author grimace_86
    My biggest frustration in getting going is that I keep second guessing myself. I'll find a method and if there is a gap in the information I start thinking the 'what if'.

    I need to just get one method down on paper and give that a shot. try it and see how it goes. I can always change it at a later date.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by grimace_86 View Post

      My biggest frustration in getting going is that I keep second guessing myself. I'll find a method and if there is a gap in the information I start thinking the 'what if'.

      I need to just get one method down on paper and give that a shot. try it and see how it goes. I can always change it at a later date.
      That's the name of the game good Sir!

      Take action, adjust as you go to make it suit your style, and then rinse and repeat!

      Kick some butt and let us know how it goes!
      ~Dexx
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