I'm actually putting together a mini-course for the "lease-a-site model....

But for my first attempt at it, I chose roofers in RI....

I wasn't really getting anywhere UNTIL I put up a Google Places listing...



Then I start gettin' calls from customers.... and calling roofers to pass out the leads...

And one guy even gave me a kick back for job he got from it!! ... So I started sending out postcards and cold calling roofers....

I'd tell em "I designed a roofing site for an online class, and now people are calling me... yada, yada, yada..."

Then this one roofer guy called and said "let's talk" and basically just wanted it...
$197/month -- and he wants it for 5 years!!!



Actually I think I coulda got more, but it was an "expereience."

Hi Brad Spencer, I don't know if there are some ebooks on the topic around, but I have been working with offline clients for a while and I will explain you what do I do:

1.- I make keyword research for local terms and see if there are people bidding on PPC for those terms.
2.- Create a webpage on wordpress fully optimized for the keyphrase I am interested in (domain name with the main keyword, titles, meta tags, meta descriptions, inter linked)
3.- I ALWAYS put an AWEBER form in order to get leads.
4.- Once I made the site to rank this is how I get the clients, I write and add on classified sites like craigslist like this:

"An Open Letter to Every (your market) That Is Eager To Make More Money"

5.- On the body of the classified I explain that I have a lead generation website that
appears on the first page on Google for certain terms and I offer them a monthly flat rate
fee in order to rent it.

6.- Most of the times you will get responses to your post.

To me the most important thing is the part to write "Lead Generation Website", because
that is what the owners or business man are interested in.

Hope it helps

What is Rent a Site if I may ask?

TK

my question is how does one enter a business listing without a business into G maps ? or do i have a senior moment and say i missed something here ?

$197.00 per month, yes?

Abdul.

Gene Pimentel has a WSO here: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...g-results.html

the Rent a Site model was created by fellow Warrior Gogetta.

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HTH

Glenn

Thanks everyone for sharing...I definitely got what I needed! Thanks again to all.

Cheers,

Brad

Hi all,

Just wanted to give my input on this:
I came across Gene's thread about domain flipping and I have been renting out domains from his idea. I rank them high first typically on slot 1-4 then make contact. I just lease out the domain rather than sell it but it does work and work very well.

I installed a few essential plugins to WP such as All in One SEO pack, Google XML sitemaps and also Ultimate Google Analytics. Google Webmaster tools is also a must. Make sure you configure the region in that.

I've always found it considerably more profitable to sell the leads at a $$$/lead rather than rent the site.

However, sometimes it's against the law for certain businesses to buy leads, so I've had to compromise.


I suppose if you wanted to build the site first, it would go something like:

1. Build a site that performs (ranks for local keywords, and also pulls in actual leads)
2. Send those leads to business owners with an email (and a follow up call) that says, I've got a website that produces these high quality leads, and I'm looking to sell them.
3. Find a taker.


I personally prefer to find business owners that want to pay me for leads first, then offer them a hand made, tailored solution to their needs. But when I need to switch out clients, I generally find a new client pretty quick using steps 2 and 3 from above.

This way I don't have to do the work of building a lead site and then not have anyone to buy or rent it.

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Thought I would chime in,

Yes, I created the Rent A Site Model a while ago, and still use the system today with huge effect. Not only is it a great system for residual cash, but for sceptical biz owners, its an awesome way to prove your worth right away.

Also, once you have lead gen sites and business owners collecting leads consistently, they will continue to pay "Rent" forever.

I mean who would want to give this up?

GoGetta

What is the recommended basic rental price per month?
I mean if the site generates 2-3 leads/enquiries a week, is it worth about $75/mth, and if it generates about 20 leads/enquiries a week is it worth about $700/mth?

I'm just trying to get some understanding of what to charge, as I have site created that is already number 4 on page 1 for the main keyword, and I'm already generating about 2-3 leads/enquiries a week.

What would everyone else on this thread charge their prospective clients when trying to rent it out?

Is it free to create the google map listing?

So here is where I am becoming a little confused. Is it "rent a site" or rent a G00gle Places spot?

Seems to me a local biz will get found more easily being in the 7 Box, versus a user scrolling down the search engine results then clicking a website to view it.

gg282, The whole "rent a site" deal can engineered a ton of different ways.

Originally, most people were just doing the "organic search" aspect. With the popularity and targeted traffic of Google Places now though, most people have started promoting their "rent a site" clients via Places as well. This is easy to do after you have an agreement with the client for their basic "rent a site" in the organic search listings. There are numerous ways to setup a Places listing BEFORE you lock in an client, but most still involve some level of "grey-hat", so that is important to consider.

But yeah, I agree, in many industries the Places listings grab up all of that gooey traffic goodness, so you should try and aim for organic and Places listings at first.

- Jim

The "rent a site" and Google place optimization shouldn't be confused. They can be used in a complementary way but the objective of renting a lead gen mini site is about the qualified leads that you provide. How you do that (PPC, SEO - Google Places) is part of the mechanism. If you have a fixed contract with a customer you can associate the site with the location of the customer.

The price that you can get for a site per month is based on the niche (life time value of the qualified prospect) and the traffic. Hope it's helps a bit.

How do you guys get the phone numbers and addresses that you use to reverse engineer the google places listing?

I've just recorded my first paychecks, $496 after 2 weeks. Might not sound like much but I've 'never' made a penny with any other jobs online. This really works.

Great. Is it for SEO work?

Now a main component that people are not really discussing is the google places listing. There is a lot to it. You can use a vumber number or another call forward number to get started before you start selling the leads or renting out the website. Your options for the address are not very many and are pretty grey/black hat. A po box will not work anymore so you need a real address. Everyones secret for this is different and I do not think anyone would like my way of doing this so I will keep it to myself. Plus you have to think about if you do rent it ( long term) or sell it the address may have to be changed, which takes time to get changed within places. I have had it take as long as 6 months for an address change to show up in places.

Edit: Just saw the above post, yes you can do office plazas and those work well.

I'm glad WF added an offline section... It's kinda like Offline Romper Room!

Here's another phone forwarding service as well:

Toll Free Forwarding

I worry about the longevity of this buisness model.

Google's number one goal is to provide relevant search results to it's customers (that is, searchers), whether that be in the organic search or the 7 box.

Google has succeeded in keeping spammy sites out of the top organic listings, and my bet it's only a matter of time until Google figures out a way to verify that only real physical businesses be listed in the 7 box. Once they do that, all these psuedo-businessplaces listing that are setup as lead gens might be gone.

i don't necessarily see this as fraudulent either...if I were to implement this method I would simply use the black/grey hate techniques to get a site ranked so that I could eventually rent the site to a local business in that niche and then use his "real"address.

I'm working on "rent-a site" on steroids for online landlording. It will go for $497 a month which will seem like a steal for those sucked into $1500-$2k a month Online consulting plans. (includes video syndication, lead capture w/report and autoresponder setup)

Questions: Do you use written agreements with your clients? If so, where can I find one? How much support is required?

Thanks for the information! I always enjoy the helping hand

Is the business model where you create a website and you rent a certain company or individual that usually lead production sites or sites highly optimized in the way people interested in renting the site to see an advantage they can reduce their PPC advertising and / or obtain leads through SEO.

My question to you would be, what is the maximum number of google places listing you are able to have on 1 acct. I have about 15 and now google is making it difficult for me.

Hi, I have a question for everyone who is capturing leads through this method before renting out the site. How do you go about capturing the lead? I mean, it seems like you just register the domain name and put one article up that is keyword optimized. So how would the website capture leads at that point?

thanks for the nice info

To track the calls from the phone number, you just use a unique one that forwards to their main number.

Google voice, skype, etc., are all options and allows you to have specific documentation.

Matt

I like the idea but I'm not comfortable creating different google maps listing for a lead generation website:-(

Im interested in how you guys get around the google places issue.