Who is doing stuff in smaller and/or rural towns?

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Hey guys,

I gather that many of you are in more urban and/or more populated areas.

How and what do you do for areas that haven't got on this "internet thing" yet?

There is a gold mine, but, how much gold, and, what to do to get it?

Jeremy
#and or or #rural #smaller #stuff #towns
  • Profile picture of the author blackstone
    Jeremy, I'm one of those small town guys.

    You've heard the saying my town is so small that, if you blink, you miss it? Well, my town is so small the "You are entering..." sign says "You are entering and leaving..." on the same sign.

    My town has about 20 retail shops, lots of attorneys and several banks. Population 3-4000 with another town 3 miles away with about 2000.

    I have not yet gotten serious about this offline consultancy but have done some work for a few clients.
    Here's my take on it.

    Generally, the need for SEO servicies is minimal or nearly a waste of time. You should still do it but it's not going to be high value for your clients.

    Certain businesses can use lead gen. For example, there's a new chiropractor in town. He needs clients. He's already doing some decent marketing but there's area for improvement.

    Building a list and database is something most can use because most aren't doing anything with their list. If they have one

    There are a lot of websites out there but few, if any, are "direct response" sites with opt-in forms.

    Most need help with their marketing. Some have money.

    I'm not real big on the sell services thing.

    Providing real value is important in small towns, Bad news travels fast.

    Good news takes a little longer.

    In a small town, web skills aren't as important as marketing skills.
    I'm talking Dan Kennedy type skills.

    I worked with a small independent grocer. Built a squeeze page and a list. List was built completely from in store traffic.
    Sent a weekly email with his sales flyer for that week as well as his dwli menu.

    Mortgage broker was buying leads for people with adjustable mortgages that were about to reset. Created an oversized postcard and mailed.
    He would typically get 1/2% response. I got 3%

    Propane heating company. Ran little classified ads in a weekly shopper (primarily) 110 prospects in 2 months with an ad spend of $200.

    All of these were several years ago. But, in hindsight, they were all lousy at sales conversion once they got the contact.

    What I will do now is address that. It does them no good to get a lead and not know what to do with it.

    I'm sure there are others who will have a different take
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    • Profile picture of the author Pete Egeler
      I'm in a small town situation, too. It's hard to get these "old codgers" to even listen to you!

      But, I have picked up a little work here & there. However, due to a doctor's visit yesterday, that's all coming to a screeching halt.

      Most of my work is helping small real estate offices get their web sites up there where the search engines will see them. You wouldn't believe the number of their sites that have a page title of "home".

      Having said that, there's still some money out there, you just have to work it.

      Pete
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Small towns here. But since there's a much, much larger world of online marketing and marketing in general besides SEO, I am not sure how many "offline marketing" folks on the Warrior Forum will even understand what I do to create $50K and $100K consulting engagements.
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
      Originally Posted by JsamsonNJ View Post

      Michael

      Do not sell all of is short many of have been in the business world and completely understand where you are coming from...however many of us that have been successful in the business world working for someone else and have brought in 100's of millions but still been let go would love to hear everything you have to say in detail

      I have vacillated back and forth about the whole "internet marketing" and "offline" {gag... hate the term} niche. There are so many quick buck opportunity seekers and kids who want to do business with their monitors only. I've been pushed over and over to come out with the "second level" approach to B2B consulting... and I've had a couple of false starts... mostly because I end back up in major consulting engagements that take all my working time. So it comes down to an ROI equasion for me on time spent really... because I'm not hungry per se, and I won't sacrifice time with my kids.

      But I have actually coached a few warriors one-on-one in some stuff, and not even charged a red cent for it. I consider those who actually reach out to be serious vs. the get rich quick seekers who don't want to put any effort into something.

      I don't want to detract from the "small town" topic here. If someone wants to engage, they can always hit me up.
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  • Profile picture of the author blackstone
    Michael, feel free to share,please
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
      Originally Posted by blackstone View Post

      Michael, feel free to share,please
      I have and I do from time to time.

      The first step is to take a holistic view of all marketing and sales functions within a business and create a strategic system, front-to-back.

      Michael Gerber so eloquently talked about how most entrepreneurs aren't good at marketing or actually operating a business. They're technicians that are good at whatever specific trade got them into business -- I'll even contend marketing people fall into that. They're good at marketing, but service and delivery? BLEH! Marketing focused businesses are the WORST at delivery and follow up. Check the BBB ratings to confirm what I am saying. Heavy marketing and sales focused businesses are the worst.

      When you can demonstrate a system approach to building a complete marketing and sales system that tracks every function and activity along the entire way, business owners resonate because you can address specific issues of operational pain. Getting new leads isn't necessarily a big pain... yet that's what the entire idea behind SEO and traffic building is all about.

      Okay, so you sell a businss owner lots of SEO. What if their site sucks? What if they have no unique selling proposition or marketing story? What if they have no systematic approact to capturing lead information and following up inside the business?

      It's a sequential chain of activity that takes a person along the road from a suspect, to a qualified prospect, to a repeat champion customer.

      All of the activities along that chain, the "touches", or the value-adds in the marketing and sales process, these all culminate to create the customer's experience... or the "brand".

      Yes, I said it... the BRAND. Direct marketing activities on or off of the web is part of the customer's experience, and actually falls under the bigger idea of branding.

      These discreet activities can be online things... like PPC, SEO, article marketing, etc... or they can be offline... like newspaper ads, YELLOW PAGES (Yes... people still use Yellow Pages... a lot actually), direct mail marketing, etc...

      How does a business owner fit all of these things together in a successful, efficient sequence to educate a prospect and turn them into a raving fan customer?

      That's what I do. Build strategic level marketing and sales systems that reduce a business owner's cost of customer acquisition, increases profit margins, and increases sales while simultaneously reducing the total number of customers required to meet the same level of gross sales and net profit (repeat business from better, more qualified buyers).

      When you take this approach to marketing consulting, you speak the language of finance and operations, not the language of computer nerd specialists (the view that most business owners have of SEO and web people).

      I actually do more business with medium-sized companies ($10 million to $500 million) in smaller towns because there are a lot fewer marketing firms hammering on them. Their business is also usually not geography-specific as well - meaning they have the things in place where I can work to create high value returns... sales forces, distribution reseller/dealer networks, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author blackstone
    Michael, thank you for all the detail you provided.

    You said what I was alluding to only more comprehensively and clearer. And with a lot more stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy James
    Originally Posted by JsamsonNJ View Post

    As Marketers we should exactly define what a small town is...in other words I live 22 miles north of NYC with a volunteer fire department and the village is 2.2 square miles...many generations of families still control the village...this is very small town in my opinion and not different than any other small town

    however property taxes are 24k a year besides we also pay state income tax

    I know every cop, since I am a volunteer firefighter I know all people in village government and receive certain perks so I love it here as it is a small town

    I live in a town of 3,000 - but, everyone else goes to a town of 50,000 that's 8 miles away for nearly all commerce.
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    I live in a small town in northeastern Ontario. Rural and peaceful. I found success after beginning my own business. I went through the process first of trying various online marketing methods, but did not achieve much success. It was not from lack of trying. Along the way, I learned a lot about numerous aspects of internet marketing, blogs, websites, software, and so on. I decided to put this to use and set up my own company. The company has workers here in Canada and also in the USA. None of the work is outsourced. It has taken tremendous time and effort to get to this point. There is no way I would be able to run a successful business with having "paid my dues" beforehand. I am grateful for what I have learned along the way and for the opportunities to work with and help others.
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