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16 years ago

That could turn out to be a pretty great deal, but how many houses does he normally build in a year? How long does he or you expect this to take to get 10 new constructions?

Even if it takes you a while, a free new house is a free new house.

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16 years ago

I'm finding getting a real estate company to rank locally is a huge undertaking.

If I was you I'd get myself an ActiveRain account

AR is doing me a lot of good.

google "real estate SEO maryland"

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joelraitt

16 years ago

just rank for : city name home builders, cityname contractors.....and so on. Then give them a sick reason for them to give you there number and email, then give em a call, get en a free quote...sell.

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Bronwyn and Keith

16 years ago

Hi Jeremy

Regardless of who you are doing business with make sure that the results can be measured so that you get your house and also make sure that the agreement is documented.

It's always wise to prepare relevant legal documentation especially with friends, family or the local pastor involved.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy James

Hey guys,

My pastor, who is a friend of mine, also is a home builder in this area. We have been talking about building him a website and getting him highly ranked in Google. Well, tonight, at the end of church, we were talking, and he made me an offer: If, through my efforts, he gets 10 new constructions, he'll build my house FOR FREE for me.

We had previously agreed upon a 1.5% commission (hey, a $200K house is $3K in my pocket.)

Well, this would be GREAT.

How can I do it? This area, while it has slowed down some, has hot spots of great activity, though I really don't know what that is - I don't know this industry. However, in my job, I remember a contractor telling me recently he was "backed up," but, many are struggling. (I work with a lot of contractors in my job.)

Any thoughts on how/what I can do?

Jeremy

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tryinhere

16 years ago

I would want payment for each one as they happened , i am guessing build a house would mean labor only not materials and land and that cost is ? 30K ?

money has no friends

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Bronwyn and Keith

16 years ago

Hey Pete

Wish we had learnt that statement a few years ago as it was our best friend who managed to rip us off.

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Originally Posted by tryinhere

I would want payment for each one as they happened , i am guessing build a house would mean labor only not materials and land and that cost is ? 30K ?

money has no friends

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DaniMc

16 years ago

I know you may believe your pastor and friend would do you no harm...but you are a man in need of a contract. With no contract, you may find it hard to collect.

And then, when the time comes...and he can't fulfill his end for many different reasons...you will lose more than just your money and time.

Proceed with caution...maybe a commission agreement would be safer for you.

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swords

16 years ago

Um... can I throw something out there...

This is a Pastor.

What kind of Pastor, locally, would scam anyone?

I see your guys' points on watching out, but if he were to perform such a scam, he would have to leave the area... which then those 10 sales would do him nothing?

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DaniMc

16 years ago

Originally Posted by swords

Um... can I throw something out there...

This is a Pastor.

What kind of Pastor, locally, would scam anyone?

I see your guys' points on watching out, but if he were to perform such a scam, he would have to leave the area... which then those 10 sales would do him nothing?

Man I was in ministry for years...I have seen it all.

And I am not saying this guys pastor is a scam artist...rather...he may have great intentions but not be able to follow through for some reason when the time comes. It will be very, very easy to find a million-and-one reasons why he can't build the house now, or wait till next year when the market comes back or whatever.

And you are totally wrong about him leaving the area. I have seen far worse. When people are loyal to someone for religious reasons, they will not believe if someone else in the church becomes critical. They will turn their backs on Jeremy in an instant.

This is not saying something bad about the people or the pastor. Just that they come to the pastor for guidance and leadership. They trust him. If Jeremy has a problem with him, the problem must be with Jeremy.

If there is no solid contract defining how soon the house will be built, how big the house will be, who, what, why, when, where and how....Jeremy will end up losing more than just the time it took to market.

He may lose a mentor, his church family and much more. It has happened a million times.

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keliix06 16 years ago

Originally Posted by swords

Um... can I throw something out there...

This is a Pastor.

What kind of Pastor, locally, would scam anyone?

The same kind that would moles... Oh, never mind.
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Mike Grant

16 years ago

Originally Posted by swords

Um... can I throw something out there...

This is a Pastor.

What kind of Pastor, locally, would scam anyone?

I see your guys' points on watching out, but if he were to perform such a scam, he would have to leave the area... which then those 10 sales would do him nothing?

You must not be familiar with the church. :p

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Jeremy James 16 years ago

I am sorry to see that many of you have been hurt by the church. I would be willing to talk to any of you if you'd like to email me - marticulate (at) gmail dot com.

On other news -

What can I do to get this man some business? I bought city construction.com today.

Jeremy
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FirstBorn

16 years ago

Originally Posted by swords

Um... can I throw something out there...

This is a Pastor.

What kind of Pastor, locally, would scam anyone?

I see your guys' points on watching out, but if he were to perform such a scam, he would have to leave the area... which then those 10 sales would do him nothing?

Hi Jeremy,

Actually, I've had 2 VERY BAD Experiences (Financially) with "Pastors"
using that 'mindset' ...
One happened to be an Affluent Ordained Minister!

They are ALL Human, regardless of what they do on Sunday.
(Won't mention what religion, but it was the same denomination.)

Just keep your Eyes and Ear OPEN and watch Your Back!

Hope this helps.

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xlfutur1

16 years ago

Originally Posted by swords

Um... can I throw something out there...

This is a Pastor.

What kind of Pastor, locally, would scam anyone?

I see your guys' points on watching out, but if he were to perform such a scam, he would have to leave the area... which then those 10 sales would do him nothing?

Jim Baker was a pastor too, with a national television program... and he ended up in prison for ripping ALOT of people off. Definitely get a contract, and have an attorney review it so it is rock solid before doing all that work.

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rdraiss

16 years ago

A verbal agreement is only as good as the paper it is written on.

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GCooper 16 years ago

So true...

Originally Posted by rdraiss

A verbal agreement is only as good as the paper it is written on.
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redlegrich

16 years ago

Poor swords, you might want to read the newspaper or watch the news. You'll learn local pastors are no better than the rest of us. Forget the free house, it'll never happen. Get him some clients and make a fair commission and find another niche.

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pethanks

16 years ago

That sounds great! You will be richly blessed by God with that.

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Jeremy James

16 years ago

Hey guys - I appreciate all the concern.

I, too, have been "burned" by friends, even ones in the church. It wasn't fun. However - I have had to learn that for me to be able to walk/operate in grace (from a receiving end) I have to give. Something about "freely I've received, freely I've given......."

Anyway - this guy - even though he's my pastor, friend, and future next door neighbor (his property and house is right next to mine) - he's one ANAL dude. He'd be the first one for a contract.

I have learned about doing close business with friends, and, the hurt that can be done without having stuff physically documented - and, I was "hinky" about going with this guy - but, I have heard, time and time again, from people in and out of my church - that he's not only straight up - he's the jerk that will make a sub contractor come out and come out until everything is done.

As far as his current work - he was active in the late 90s and early 2000s, but, our church grew to a huge size - and he was busy for years with that. Now - we've went through some transition, and, partially because of the fact that he is taking only a slim salary (due to tithes going down) and partially because he feels as if God is positioning him for an increase financially, he has resurrected his business.

So far, he has done several remodeling jobs, and 2-3 (maybe more) complete constructions. He hasn't been in business long.

Jeremy

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Jeremy James

16 years ago

Let me ask this question. Right now - in this area - City Construction.com is not taken, and, when I type it in - the 7 Box of Google Places has come up - but none of them have been verified by the business owner.

So, if I set him up an account with Google Places - with a phone number/address, and, a website - how soon would it place in Google places, and, how soon would it get to the top? I can add pictures, contact info, and testimonials VERY quickly.

Jeremy

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Bronwyn and Keith

16 years ago

Hey Jeremy

Given that it's a new GP listing probably take 3 weeks to pop up.

Make sure that you optomize it fully and do the citations, reviews etc. Plus now that Google has changed the rules you will need to get some backlinks happening on the .com website too.

Do all of the above and you should be in good shape.

Regards

Bronwyn and Keith

Originally Posted by Jeremy James

Let me ask this question. Right now - in this area - City Construction.com is not taken, and, when I type it in - the 7 Box of Google Places has come up - but none of them have been verified by the business owner.

So, if I set him up an account with Google Places - with a phone number/address, and, a website - how soon would it place in Google places, and, how soon would it get to the top? I can add pictures, contact info, and testimonials VERY quickly.

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hovirag

16 years ago

I've seen pastors go back on their words - they didn't mean it like that etc. Have a clear contract and make sure everything can be proved.
If he is an earnest person he will gladly sign that contract.

For the website first of all choose your url carefully - must have the keyword and the area name in it! Do a keyword search in google - it's free.

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Jeremy James

16 years ago

Thanks, Christopher.

So, putting that aside -

How do I get a local contractor/builder some good leads for developing his business? I think I can get high in Google, but, what are some other low/no cost ideas to grow that business?

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RegalWeb

16 years ago

That's a good deal. But, 10 constructions would mean a lot of time. A normal home builder can have 2-3 projects the most annually. And 1.5% commission is fair enough but if you feel short, you can do additional negotiations.

But think about this, in about 3 years, you'll get to have your brand new home for FREE! How's that for starters?

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Jeremy James

16 years ago

Hey guys

Let me preface this by saying that I don't know much about website development, wordpress, and, don't know what CSS or pHp really means. I had a woman years ago was going to teach me, but, I was young, distracted, and stupid - and didn't learn.

However, here is the beginning of my website.

What would you do to make this a success?

Dothan Construction | Your Source for Construction in Dothan

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startup

16 years ago

get it in writing and perhaps even cross collateralized with Certificates of Deposit or land lien(s)...something..it all; sounds so WONDERFUL..then if he gets sick and goes out of business..geez sorry..and you are the next one in the poor house

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16 years ago

If you have a little cash to spend, look on the Warrior Forum and you can outsource the whole thing. Do a bit of keyword research, build a site around the best keyword, do some onsite seo and some offsite seo and you should be ready to go.

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Rus Sells

16 years ago

Don't do business with the leaders in your church, you just asking for trouble and ruined relationships.

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16 years ago

I think that it's a great idea. Have you considered marketing in adjacent areas?

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Michael Curran Smith 16 years ago

Kinda reminds be of the show "around the world in 80 trades"...bartering is on the come back trail. Nice!

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P.S. Definitely get things spelled out in writing as everybody suggests.
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cbest

16 years ago

Find local directories where you can place you link... while you're out marketing your SEO services to business networks you can talk abt your pastor's construction business at the same time. Keywords to add would be custom homes + city, connect with re-location experts to get out-of-town traffic. and set-up a Facebook Fan page with tips on re-locating to that area. 10 tips you need to know before you build a home in 'city'.

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zapp1com 16 years ago

Hi Jeremy...

My advice would be to do what you think is best and dont worry about anyone els....

Looking at your site your using wordpress so that make it easy for you to do not only the site but the seo...

If i where you i would look at this product (& this is not an affilat link by the way) its SmalBiz themes it is super easy to use, there are loads of tutorials & video's and there help desk is excelent...

Just get a custom header made, fill in the box's and you will have a great looking site up with the basic seo done before you know it...

Take care & i wish you the best
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Jeremy James

16 years ago

Thanks guys for the input and suggestions.

One thing that slowed me down was a broken arm - it was very hard to type while I was one handed, but, now that I am better - I can type again - I need to get to work on that site.

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16 years ago

Nice one, You should really consider taking the deal. It's great!

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