Local Search- The details will kill you at the start.

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I posted about this somewhere before on the WF.

When I first started adding offline mkt'ing about a year ago, it was purely by accident. A friend asked how I got on 1st page for my non-IM biz.

Skipping ahead to what matters for local search... The first thing I found was just like everyone else has found ... Google's local search data doesn't exist, in reality.

But here is why you can search for KW's and not see results returned for what you are expecting...

It's this small detail - it's your ISP and everybody in your town, city, suburb too. We all have different IP's and most have a different one each time the computer is turned on.

Mine have a variance of an average 50 miles ... that means that the search engines will see my IP for the day as anywhere I end up. That could be one of about 10 different "towns". So, a telephone Co. assigns IP's dynamically, and they can change while you are online too.

If that was a bunch of gobble-de-gook to you, I'm sorry. But the Internet protocol, your computer's address can be found by going to one of those "whats my IP?" sites. It will also tell you the city/town that a google or yahoo "sees".

Let me tell you, I was really pissed when I figured that out. I figured that it would multiply the work by a factor of 10 for 10 cities. Just for one or two KW's!

Just look at a very generic search like for 'doctor' or 'lawyer'. You may get crap 30-40 miles away. Nobody wants to drive 30 miles to the doctor or to a lawyer, right?

Later, it struck me that this dilemma was actually an opportunity, and a golden one. So, I solved the problem and it's been gravy ever since.

I'm going to do a $10,000 WSO on it.
It's a BIG SECRET! The secret to millions of dollars in your pocket for you and future generations of your family.

LOL

Really, it's a bit complicated to explain but I know all of you are already seeing multiple solutions. I started an authority site. Then subdomains or add ons, either works. Then slapped a great web site up and discussed all the numerous towns and cities, over and over ... in articles on the authority site, and on the sub domains and add ons. Simultaneously throwing some Twitter at it. Boom first page for the authority site.
(Remember, this was over a year ago.)

How easy do you think it is to get somebody ranked from the authority site linkage for any of those towns/cities? real easy.

Now what to do about the money. it's all continuity or nothing. If they stop paying, it's okay but they get "delisted" from the authority site and "their" subdomain vanishes. Their ranking and 1st page begins to slide quickly. This is CRITICAL. They always ask, "what happens if I don't want to pay any more?" I say, "You'll be back to where you are now- unfindable."

About half the time I get asked "Can you make it permanent 1st page?" I say, "Yes. A significant amount of money up front and monthly maintenace will get you there and keep you there." The monthly is about $50 per KW

The authority site took about a month to get on 1st page and now it just stays there... without any work or maintenance. It took a month because I was going after 50 totally different professions, business types.

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Now I just saw someone on an offline thread, discussing this same local search subject, who is going to give a seminar to realtors about how to do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REALTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you kidding me!!! Teach them!!!! Yikes!

If you want to put your local search business's reputation in the hands of a bunch of frustrated _________ , then be my guest. BUT, that is NOT where the money is.

Seminars! For heavens sake, get some imagination! You'll be creating your own competition.

Geeezzzzz!!!!!!!!!!

Tell a realtor that you'll get a house or two on the first page and help her sell it! For $100 or $200 each month per set of KW's.

Teaching people how to do something you can barely do, is insane!

Rethink your strategy for your own benefit. Read every thread here. If you don't, you'll go from hero to zero faster than you can imagine.
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Now here is the coup de gras, the killer instinct in this old dog, the real opportunity that I saw back in the beginning. It is sooo simple. It plays on somebody's greed.

OK. First, I didn't want this offline stuff to be my major time consumer, because my other online businesses are time consuming and I love doing those more than just about anything else.

So, once I knew it would work I decided to go high end businesses and only high end businesses. Well, that's where the money is, right?

Second, they had to be in extremely competitive businesses. This is important. So, I looked around for good people in each business sector, not the biggest, but real good people. Good folk. Most are sole proprietors or partnerships types. Good local reputation, been in business several years, etc.

Then, I approached them through a referrer. Yeah, I asked around about who was good from people I knew, and then I used them as referrers.

I made my pitch in 5 minutes using every ad they were using, from TV, radio, or YP. And, then asked them what did you expect to get out of these ads?

Their answers varied, some were funny, like "I want to piss off my competition with bigger ads and more TV." I ask, "Does it bring in new customers?" 99% don't know. but they think it does.

Bing Bang Boom Stick a fork in them!

Now Here's my $10,000 WSO offer

I then ask them if they would be interested to be on the first page of Google and Yahoo and Bing? Exclusively!

It usually takes them a minute or two to "get it". Then their eyes light up like solar flares.

That's right. I only do one person in each profession, industry, business sector. They freak at the thought, especially when I explain that they can be pulling leads from all over the general area of 10 cities.

"Can you really do that? Legally?", they ask.

Then I whip out my already prepared list of KW's and ask if he has any others to add.

Closings are mostly me emptying their brain for referrals to other people in different industries that are their friends.

Last off, here's the exact chain that occurred with my first customer and his referrals: lawyer refers to doctor who refers to accountant who referred to investment advisor who referred to a great starving artist who referred to his patron/buyer gallery.

So, take that you danged warriors! Lock and load!

Happy Veterans Day to all who are serving, or have served, and to their families.

TB
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  • wow. that was great! I would like to pick your brain , can we email?

    retireonme at gmail.

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    • Profile picture of the author teaball
      WandaW,

      Thanks for taking the time to "Thanks" me.

      I hope it helps everybody.

      TB

      Saying 'Thanks' is a good feeling to know.
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    • Profile picture of the author teaball
      Originally Posted by www_retireonme_com View Post

      wow. that was great! I would like to pick your brain , can we email?

      retireonme at gmail.

      Tommy
      I barely have time to even come here and read a few posts. My other sites take a huge amount of time.

      But I'll try to answer any questions here ... eventually.

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      • Profile picture of the author teaball
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        can't PM yet nor reply.

        yes, I use a ton then select the 2-3 specific KW's that are directly relevant. Then I work the heck out of them for a week or so, then I begin the specialty strategies to the foundation work I just did. I watch the stats and when I see movement from one special move, I then add another. Then I repeat the process for the second KW while continuing adding very small simple things to the first.

        See, I don't want to just get to the first page from page 50+. I want to get there and never have to juice it again. I want my site to be the octopus that is permanently stuck to the first page of google forever ~.

        google is soooo complicated, it's simple to train it to do exactly what I want. I'm not bragging. I'm just saying that all complicated systems are overly vulnerable to simplicity.

        Once you find what complex systems love to stick in their 'piehole'. You just feed it pie, day after day.

        Feed goog what it craves. It craves eyeballs. Nothing more and nothing less. Eyeballs are votes. It's a trained seal barking for eyeballs. Give it eyeballs with hard work and great sought after content.


        Sophisticated strategies not necessary. LOL

        I should say this too. I do not have an adwords account nor do I have an adsense account. I don't have a Facebook, Squidoo, MySpace, etc. The only social crap I have is, I do have a twitter account which is my main KW.

        I don't advertise at all. Ever. Is that weird enough for you?

        TB

        The hard part for offline marketers is this: if you get somebody onto the first page, can you get them off the first page, if they stop paying you?

        If you can't, you have lost any leverage you have! That's why the authority site IS the strategy that will work for you.

        You have to be able to control the results of what you do. Consider the problem you could very easily create for a small business (I have had this experience).

        Say, a snow plowing service may only be able to handle 10 customers a day, but in heavy snows might be getting 200 to 2,000 calls everyday for weeks. They can't do it all and frustrated prospects become 'bad mouthers' for the service.

        Your service gave the snow guy more headaches than he can imagine. How do you get him off the 1st page and how fast?

        The answer lies inside how you got him to the 1st page. And, there's the rub, my friends. Not even shutting down his website will get him off the first page.

        You have to think about all of the strategies you use. My advice is to build the log cabin on the 1st page with match sticks, one at a time. So, that in a disaster like the snow plowing service, you can knock it over with a flick of the finger. Or, you can light a controlled fire to really get fast action, if there is an extreme situation like a blizzard of phone calls for a snow plow.

        TB
        You guys thought I was kidding about a $10,000 WSO. Just these little simple actions have earned me much more than that.

        For heaven's sakes, just don't do seminars in your home town!!!!! and give away your business for the short term money which is chump change.

        It's the long tail money for your hard work that makes sense. It's 20 times easier and 20 times bigger money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    So, basically you're saying just create a local directory with sub domains of different industries.

    ie, lawyer.newyorkinfo.com

    then rent the sub domains?
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    • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
      Hi Mg

      Sounds like a pretty good appraisal of the approach that teaball is using.

      It works though so teaball is right when it comes to that.

      But it still takes work, just like everything else.

      Regards

      Bronwyn and Keith
      Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

      So, basically you're saying just create a local directory with sub domains of different industries.

      ie, lawyer.newyorkinfo.com

      then rent the sub domains?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Montgomery
      i was about to ask the same thing.

      that was the only thing i wasn't clear on

      Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

      So, basically you're saying just create a local directory with sub domains of different industries.

      ie, lawyer.newyorkinfo.com

      then rent the sub domains?
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    • Profile picture of the author teaball
      Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

      So, basically you're saying just create a local directory with sub domains of different industries.

      ie, lawyer.newyorkinfo.com

      then rent the sub domains?

      Using a bit of humor, I'll make my point about an authority site name and content, not a directory though in the traditional sense. I want people to come back to the site. That's where the real work is and how it pays off.

      So here's the attitude I have when selecting an authority site domain name:

      www. TheBiggestKnowitAll About Everything Worth Knowing inAtlantaMetro.com

      How about that attitude for an authority site?

      Then if you can back it up with great content, it isn't an attitude, it becomes a fact. your site becomes an authority site. But it takes time effort and doing the right things.

      Lots of people will want to have some discussion or comment section, but that isn't what people want when they first come there. They want somebody to tell them who is the best at xyz thing.... and why they should care.

      They should care because of the "exclusivity rationale" you give, in brief, on each page. A longer explanation can be linked to on each page to support the research work done for exclusivity for each listing on your site.

      A heavily moderated comment section on a blog for purposes of rating your customer is possible. But I would restrict it to registered members.

      I don't like them... too much effort for little return. But a comment script to your email might be better. you can be selective and use the comments to write new content.

      Theoretically, I don't have a problem with having a directory flavor to the site, but I would do some things to prevent everybody else, other than my exclusive, to benefit from their info appearing on the site. The searcher customer can benefit by finding an address but the actual listed biz should not benefit as a listing or backlink. A little nasty trick but still ... it's my site isn't it.

      I've been online since the mid eighties, BB's and the like. Not chats either. I remember compuserve's ridiculous biz model too. Email was invented and killed them eventually. I remember Corey Rudl and others becoming pariahs of 'sold out commercialism" "They'll ruin the our internet!" roflol Corey's basic marketing still works.

      The biggest opportunities for improving markets, local or national or international, is nearly across the board... all industries. Internet marketing is still so amazingly Third World, outside of the IM'ers marketing to other IM'ers.

      Some call it "niche marketing". I say that a load of crap. It's still industry marketing on the internet with a specific focus that is then labeled as a niche.

      Do you actually think somebody on a Board of Directors in a Top 1,000 US corporation actually cares what their website looks like? Not too likely. But they will in the future.

      You young folks need to look forward to a huge revolution in business, how it's conducted. For example, have you ever heard of Alibaba? Breathtaking now for its size, but soon it will be replaced by better, more organized, more focused competitors.

      So, who will be winners in this revolution? Just for the sake of simplicity, think "last mile". You can order all kinds of junk, but how do you get it in your grubby little hands? DHL, UPS, FedEx, USPS and future innovators. How about a local delivery firm for local businesses to local customers? Heck I don't know.

      I won't make it to the next revolution on the internet, so go ahead and start without me! LOL

      You young folk seem to have all it takes and more to carry on without me.

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  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    Yeah, this advice is really solid stuff so far, but I'm a tad confused on what exactly you are doing.

    I completely see the value in the "control" factor you mention with the subdomain approach, and this is something I have struggled with/pondered in the past (knowing clients will benefit for an extended period of time from my work even though they might cancel).

    BUT, I'd imagine for 90% of the people on here, they really should not have a problem taking multiple positions on page 1 for any "normal" local terms. Sure, some niches like real estate, lawyers, dentists, surgeons, etc will always be more competitive in local SEO terms, but nothing that can't be overcome with normal Places/onpage/offpage/other(press releases, social media, ppc tags boost, video, etc) stuff and a month or two of PATIENCE (don't you just love SEO?). Of course, if you're trying to rank for "new york city attorney", things will be a bit more difficult and take a bit longer.....:p

    So, are your benefits basically the speed in which you are ranking AND maintaining complete control, all with the ability to "switch off" that sweet link juice?

    I like the approach, I guess I just don't see how it is quite necessary unless working in some of the major local search hotbeds?......

    - Jim
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    • Profile picture of the author teaball
      Originally Posted by jsherloc View Post

      BUT, I'd imagine for 90% of the people on here, they really should not have a problem taking multiple positions on page 1 for any "normal" local terms. Sure, some niches like real estate, lawyers, dentists, surgeons, etc will always be more competitive in local SEO terms, but nothing that can't be overcome with normal Places/onpage/offpage/other(press releases, social media, ppc tags boost, video, etc) stuff and a month or two of PATIENCE (don't you just love SEO?). Of course, if you're trying to rank for "new york city attorney", things will be a bit more difficult and take a bit longer.....:p

      So, are your benefits basically the speed in which you are ranking AND maintaining complete control, all with the ability to "switch off" that sweet link juice?

      I like the approach, I guess I just don't see how it is quite necessary unless working in some of the major local search hotbeds?......

      - Jim
      Jim, remember I'm focused on a limitation that is the attractor ... a local excellent professional, tradesman. Exclusively. You have listed numerous ones that can be exploited. maybe you want to add in from the beginning if you go the exclusive route, that eventually others in your "exclusive customer's profession and region" may be added later ... "but you'll always be the first, and the lowest cost... blah blah"

      So, I'm just saying it's the choice I made, and quite by accident too. It works for me.

      I have the advantage of knowing most of the people listed rather well, either personally or by reputation. Attorneys specialize, as do other pros and tradesmen (home renovators versus kitchen renovation, etc.) and one of my customers is the most well liked guy in town, BUT, he is also the most feared defense attorney for 200 miles, probably in the whole state. He frikkin beats everybody, and he rarely ever has to go to trial. When he does, the courtroom is packed wall-to-wall with other plaintiff attorneys!! LOL Most have never seen him in action so they drop everything to be there. Funniest thing you ever saw.

      What does he tell prospects who come to him (usually gov'ts and businesses)? "We know how to win, and if you are going to lose, we know how to minimize it better than anyone else." And he does.

      So, he's the 'defense attorney', another is the 'personal injury attorney', another is the 'criminal defense attorney'. Pretty soon you have so many "specialists" that you need to move onto other industries.

      Hope that answers your questions.


      When dealing with high level/high income guys, I recommend wearing your best suit, over-preparing your 5-minute speech/pitch, and then after you're finished, just shut-up and let them think about it. they'll ask you questions, but always answer this one question in their mind ... "Why should I buy this service?"

      Last off, the "new york attorney" is too broad for an experienced searcher. I'd be breaking it down into lower levels, like Brooklyn, Manhattan and then into specialties like family law, litigator, etc. But people search more often for lawyer than attorney, more often for divorce lawyer than family law attorney, etc. I'd use both in content.

      That reminds me, I don't have a divorce attorney yet! But I know a really good one. She's a viper. I'll bet I could get into a bidding war with her competitors to keep her off my site. roflol.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Holmes
    Just see the subdomains as a folder on your website that you rent out to the prospective clients. If they stop paying - how quickly you can "de-rank" them via Google becomes irrelevant if you just ... delete the subdomain..?

    As you say TB, no need to over complicate things, if they stop paying rent you ALREADY have all of the control you need, just delete that folder/subdomain.
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    • I can see how this WOULD have worked before.

      But now with the new Google localMerge algo I think it will be much harder.
      Unless you are only going after a pure organic spot.

      But in the most competitive markets the top 7 results are typically the localMerge results and sometimes there is only room for 5 organics, WAY down at the bottom. And typically those spots are taken by long standing authority sites like Yelp/city search or IYPS or long standing industry directories.

      If you want to get a localMerge spot that's bigger and on top it takes having a Place page too and with the new algo it's REALLY tough, even tougher than before to get ranked for anything other than the city you are in.

      NOT trying to burst any bubbles or say it won't work, just making sure the NEW algo is being considered when saying this works, because most have not figured it out yet. And once you do, it's a big eye-opener.
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      • Profile picture of the author teaball
        Originally Posted by 5starAffiliatePrograms View Post

        I can see how this WOULD have worked before.

        But now with the new Google localMerge algo I think it will be much harder.
        Unless you are only going after a pure organic spot.

        But in the most competitive markets the top 7 results are typically the localMerge results and sometimes there is only room for 5 organics, WAY down at the bottom. And typically those spots are taken by long standing authority sites like Yelp/city search or IYPS or long standing industry directories.

        If you want to get a localMerge spot that's bigger and on top it takes having a Place page too and with the new algo it's REALLY tough, even tougher than before to get ranked for anything other than the city you are in.

        NOT trying to burst any bubbles or say it won't work, just making sure the NEW algo is being considered when saying this works, because most have not figured it out yet. And once you do, it's a big eye-opener.
        I agree with everything you wrote.

        So, let me add these 2 things into the mix.

        First - Your customer or prospect wants to be on 1st page, and that's what you are selling. So, what does he/she expect from that? More customers? Probably. Maybe some branding. Just putting them on a goog map is pretty easy, right? But does that get them more clicks and subsequently more phone calls? maybe.

        If you just stick to the location on a google map, you'll be out of business pretty soon.

        So, yes, it's the organic that really matters in the long run.

        Let me interject here .... this whole dialogue above and here is really more about thinking about business and how you want to execute it. 'Thinking/imagining' being the key. Getting into the finer detailed points is what someone can do in their mind and then can understand the entirety of the biz they are operating within. Then they can choose which portion of the whole biz they want to focus on.

        Second - If you assume that your efforts to get someone on the 1st page is to get new customers, then their prospect will be searching for something of value, something they need, want, or might need/want. That's what a prospect of your customer is looking for when they search. So, you have to go at least that deep into how the link on a Google page is going to appear attractive.... and then you have to coach your customer into delivering value on that clicked link. That's why the organic is the critical and sustainable way to go. Perhaps I should add, nobody gets too much without giving up an email addy ... and then gets a great article or a choice of articles directly relative to their situation, in .pdf form.

        You wrote:
        "WAY down at the bottom. And typically those spots are taken by long standing authority sites like Yelp/city search or IYPS or long standing industry directories. "

        real content beats these links to death... with time. Let me also add that in recent heat map studies, the 1st organic link gets clicked the most. Do you know which links are clicked 2nd and 3rd most?

        What do you do when you get on a results page? first you give a quick scan to see if it's specific enough, then you scroll down 'below the fold'. Right? You blow right by the "Yelps" .... Yelp blindness?? like Adsense blindness???

        You go right down to the 2nd and 3rd most clicked links ... number 9 & 10 respectively. Hmmmm. All the first page clog of Yelp types tend to make the 2nd page more important, wouldn't you think? I do. After 1 or 2 times of clicking on a Yelp type directory, a person learns to ignore them, but they still get alot of clicks. That too, will wane eventually. Why?

        People will click less often on the obvious. People learn to search more proficiently. But the biggest factor is that real business websites, like your cutomers, will learn how to make their sites relevant. It will take time, but that will happen.... but that's a whole other market being born.

        Remember when businesses thought that a Flash rendered front page was really cool? but unfindable? How long did that last?

        I repeat, I'm not doing this full time and don't have 2,000 customers, but I did have one that stopped the service due to other non-internet problems. I replaced him with another competitor of his (I told him before I did it.. gave him the right to come back but not replace the other guy. He was happy with that.)

        He dropped off the first page within days after I created another "site" for the new guy. The old link to the first guy became a redirect to the new guy. Too simple, right? It worked.

        I don't know squat about "the latest and greatest national secret" new algorithm from goog. don't much care either. But I expect that sometime it may help to know something about it for the fine touches. But when content, relevance, and location no longer matter in local search on Google, then I'll figure Google doesn't matter anymore. thats my humble opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, but then, if I am wrong, I'll simply adjust. No big deal.

        Life lived simply is a life full of joy, fun and satisfaction. Complicated lives are chosen by the liver.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
    Originally Posted by teaball View Post

    Now I just saw someone on an offline thread, discussing this same local search subject, who is going to give a seminar to realtors about how to do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    REALTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are you kidding me!!! Teach them!!!! Yikes!

    If you want to put your local search business's reputation in the hands of a bunch of frustrated _________ , then be my guest. BUT, that is NOT where the money is.

    Seminars! For heavens sake, get some imagination! You'll be creating your own competition.

    Geeezzzzz!!!!!!!!!!

    Tell a realtor that you'll get a house or two on the first page and help her sell it! For $100 or $200 each month per set of KW's.

    Teaching people how to do something you can barely do, is insane!

    Rethink your strategy for your own benefit. Read every thread here. If you don't, you'll go from hero to zero faster than you can imagine.
    Sorry gotta disagree with you on this. By doing the seminars you will also be gaining new clients since most wont want to do it even after you showed them how.

    There are also alot of realtors that dont want to fork out $200-$1000 a month since they probably close between 1-3 deals every 60 days. But these people would be willing to pay $500 to $1000 to learn how to do it themselves.
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    • Profile picture of the author teaball
      Originally Posted by rockstarinlife View Post

      Sorry gotta disagree with you on this. By doing the seminars you will also be gaining new clients since most wont want to do it even after you showed them how.

      There are also alot of realtors that dont want to fork out $200-$1000 a month since they probably close between 1-3 deals every 60 days. But these people would be willing to pay $500 to $1000 to learn how to do it themselves.
      Yes indeed they would. Why? Do you know why they don't want to do monthly? Nobody does. Nobody likes monthly payments for anything. Very few people have more time on their hands than a realtor these days.

      Here's the deal, they will never need you for anything again. I promise. It's a one time shot.

      I've been there and done that exact same thing, except for this one thing.... I knew it before hand. I planned to do it that way and built the system to teach what I knew to 3,000 people because I knew they HAD to have my lessons. but once they had it, they would never need me again. It ended up being 2 hectic years, and actually 5,000 people @ $100 a head, I made alot of jing. I was never asked back but was thanked many times ... still years later i get an occasional phone call asking if I'm teaching anything else. LOL

      I've only been in business for 40 years, so I may have messed up with your rationale, but I don't think so. I have my views about how to do something. I never start out looking to see how I can get customers or more customers. Why?

      If you are excellent at what you do, you will have to turn down customers. You will be sold out.

      Example: A customer, a financial advisor/investment advisor, sings in his church choir. He mentioned that he was now on the 1st page of goog. When asked how he did it, he said I did it. He gave a few people one of my cell phone numbers, but never told me he had done this. I still don't know how many calls i actually got but it was ridiculous. The battery went dead, since I had left it at home while I was away on personal business.

      He's an investment/retirement advisor to local business men and women. I have never had to look for customers in anything because I front loaded everything I've done, by planning, executing, adjusting, planning, executing.... and testing etc.

      I have never given away what I have worked to learn. I share methods, thinking process and a plan. But I never share the techniques, nor details, nothing ever that puts someone in competition with me.

      You say you are in Northern Ca. that's not in my backyard, so go ahead, but I think you underestimate how hungry CA realtors are. I know realtors who own lawn maintenance companies, others own home renovation companies, others are learning the internet marketing field. They are just trying to make ends meet today.

      I think you underestimate your audience, and that is a fatal mistake, imho. Getting some site to 1st page of goog is not complicated, takes no great intelligence or even experience. It only takes the willingness to follow directions and repeat what works.

      So how are you protecting your business?

      How long before some guy writes and markets the best seller, "How I made millions getting small business people on the 1st page of goog?" 1 year? 2 years? it'll be about 100pages long, and it will make all you offline marketers obsolete if you don't return value above and beyond what somebody else is willing to do in their spare time.

      Go figure.

      TB

      BTW, and no offense intended at all, but one of my online businesses makes me a healthy living from just measuring and using data that goes against hard headed, stubborn, intransigent people who make emotional decisions and never question whether they are wrong. I do the opposite of what they are doing, for fun and profit.

      It's arrogant and emotional decision making that will kill your biz. Accept it or remember it, it might come in handy the next time somebody gives you their view, even as simple as mine. Stay humble, seek advice, and take advice, but above all ... Test everything.

      Ask yourself this question... what do you learn on all these supposed webinars? nada, except for the link to"BUY MY ___________"

      good luck, hope it works out for you

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    yeah...thanks for your information.
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