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Hello friends,

I have a pertinent question to pose to all of you fellow offliners. In terms of marketing, are you employing chasing the client strategies or the being chased strategies?

I've read all over the WWW that being chased is a better position to be in. However, it does take a lot to get to that level. If you are at the stage of being chased, how did you get there?

For those of you who are chasing the client, what strategies are working for you? Do you feel that your clients have greater power than you in negotiations?

I've trialled and erred many strategies and am in the middle at the moment, moving more towards the being chased end of the spectrum.

Abul
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    I kind of do both.
    I implement the scarcity tactic, which makes businesses come to me and compete for my services with Local SEO. But, I do initiate it, by letting several businesses in the same areas know about my service.
    However, for website services I send reps after businesses.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
      Originally Posted by vndnbrgj View Post

      I kind of do both.
      I implement the scarcity tactic, which makes businesses come to me and compete for my services with Local SEO. But, I do initiate it, by letting several businesses in the same areas know about my service.

      BINGO!!

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  • Profile picture of the author Doug Slaton
    Wow, who doesn't like to be chased.

    I do a ton of face-to-face networking, Chamber of Commerce, leads groups, etc. Groups like these you only have a minute or two for your commercial so it's tough to really sell much in that short a time.

    What's worked really well for me has been my weekly newsletter. When I'm at our chamber meeting sitting around the table with seven other folks and it's my turn for my one minute here's what I say:

    I have a free weekly computer tips newsletter and if I got your card here today with your e-mail address on it I'm going to send you an invitation to it. Raise your hand if you don't want me to send that invitation.

    In the many years I've done this I've only ever had one person that did in fact raise their hand.

    My newsletter keeps me top of mind and reminds them passively that I'm around. I become a valued resource that they come to when they need help... so I guess mostly I'm chased.
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    God's design for all of us is not to be a tail but rather a head. So I want to be chased.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
    Really dependant of where you are with in your marketing efforts.

    If you are starting out... Chase.

    If you are full.... Be Chased.

    More often than not though. I see people on this forum that are struggling to get going.

    I see people spending so much time trying to position themselves to be chased. When your MAJOR competitor is out there doing both.

    They chase... Cold Call, and prospect over the phone. Then they sit back. I think a combination of the efforts is really what's in my best interest.

    Never... and I mean NEVER be afraid to walk away from a deal.

    I have had instances where I would get up and say... "Well, thank you for your time.."

    And as I was walking through the door the business owner said..... "Hey.... wait a second." Then we re-opened dialog and the deal got done. Some people like to know they are doing business with someone that has b@lls.

    They need that re-assurance. I don't want to do business with a flake or someone not manly enough to stand his ground. That just shows lack of a spine.

    When starting out... all I did was chase. I found it so effective, and I am still making money from it.... That I let other people do the chasing for me.

    For every 100 letter that you send, and wait to get an email response or phone call... questioning in the back of your mind if this is going to work, etc.

    I can make a 100 phone calls and get an appointment, or 5. If I don't close a deal over the phone... then get a couple of appointments so that I can keep the funnel flowing.

    That is just my experience. Not something I read somewhere and preach as gold even though I haven't put it into action. Which I see alot of on WF.

    My experience and my experience only. I would suggest trying both ways at once. And see which gets the best results for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    If your just starting out your going to starve trying to position yourself as the one being chased. It takes a lot of effort to position yourself as some one who is sought out, it can be done though.

    I think if your starting out you need to be chasing while positioning yourself to be sought out.

    Once you achieve the level where people and companies are seeking you out I would still do some chasing, but only for the types of accounts I'd consider juicy and really worth it.

    You know, the kind you can stick a feather in your hat and say, I am taking care of "that" company!
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    • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
      Thank you Russ.... You so eloquently made the point I was trying to make in a much shorter post than I did.

      Really.... in all my business ventures. The secret, well... not so secret, more of a standard for marketing success - is having 5 marketing streams all at once.

      So I agree with all of your experiences. And they all work.... I just know if the chips are down. I am going to do some chasing. I don't even call it chasing. I call it... cold calling.

      A friend of mine works for a company that does 15,000 websites a month. How do they do it?

      Cold Calling. Teams of cold callers....

      Why? Because it works. Once you generate interest then yes... you can step back and be prepared to walk from the deal at any given moment. That in itself is positioning I suppose. But the idea is... I have to let them know who I am in the first place. How do I do that? Get in front of them.

      How do I get in front of them? I chase them down. I go where they go. I do what they do. I become one of them.

      Why? Because I sure do like making money, and I sure do like helping others. So... if I can do both at the same time.... Score.


      I would rather be eating and paying my bills than I would be looking good.

      But you know... what works for me... may not work for you. So do what is right for you.




      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      If your just starting out your going to starve trying to position yourself as the one being chased. It takes a lot of effort to position yourself as some one who is sought out, it can be done though.

      I think if your starting out you need to be chasing while positioning yourself to be sought out.

      Once you achieve the level where people and companies are seeking you out I would still do some chasing, but only for the types of accounts I'd consider juicy and really worth it.

      You know, the kind you can stick a feather in your hat and say, I am taking care of "that" company!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Getting chased does not require any more effort than "chasing," it just a matter of how position your business and your solutions.

    Like anything, there is an effective way and an inefficient way to generating clients.

    If you chase clients, I guarantee you'll be wasting much more energy, time, and resources than you truly have to...but to each their own.

    My members all know how to position themselves properly from the beginning, and have gone out and been ASKED to sit down with the business owner shortly after meeting them.

    Food for thought!

    ~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    People who chase you also tend to value your work more, and pay that much more for your services. So by that logic, any effort you have to put out to be chased would be more than repaid by the kind of customers you'd get.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    My members all know how to position themselves properly from the beginning, and have gone out and been ASKED to sit down with the business owner shortly after meeting them.
    Gone out doing what?

    My point is, you have to start somewhere. Positioning take effort just like anything else, but it does not happen overnight. You have to go out and get some business to get started while you work on positioning at the same time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Gone out doing what?

      My point is, you have to start somewhere. Positioning take effort just like anything else, but it does not happen overnight. You have to go out and get some business to get started while you work on positioning at the same time.
      Not at all.

      Positioning is how you, and your solutions, are viewed by your market.

      Positioning yourself as a resource that is available to help the business, and approaching businesses from a position of looking to OBTAIN business, require the same amount of effort...its how you come across in your marketing that is the difference.

      Whether through email, physical mailings, phone etc.

      You can introduce yourself to a market without looking like your "chasing" business, that's all I'm saying. =)

      ~Dexx
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        Now I am clear. Your prospecting but positioning at the same time.

        I call it closing because that's what closing is about, positioning.

        Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

        Not at all.

        Positioning is how you, and your solutions, are viewed by your market.

        Positioning yourself as a resource that is available to help the business, and approaching businesses from a position of looking to OBTAIN business, require the same amount of effort...its how you come across in your marketing that is the difference.

        Whether through email, physical mailings, phone etc.

        You can introduce yourself to a market without looking like your "chasing" business, that's all I'm saying. =)

        ~Dexx
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        • Profile picture of the author Dexx
          Exactly.

          When I talk about "positioning," I'm more just referring to how you come across in your conversations with business owners.

          Kind of like the "charming guy" that simply introduces himself to a pretty girl, and the "desparate guy" who comes on a bit TOO strong and tries to move TOO fast...y'know?

          A charming guy can get girls chasing him, without making it seem like he WANTS their business...heh
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  • Profile picture of the author Ydris
    Wow, this is interesting over here, i like this.

    Well, i think that being chased would leverage our time and effort to do other productive things to grow our businesses, but for that t happen i think you need a SYSTEM in place that will bring customers to you, would you guys agree?

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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by Ydris View Post

      but for that t happen i think you need a SYSTEM in place that will bring customers to you, would you guys agree?
      Yup! Which is why I designed the client and referral generating system I teach my members =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
    I do agree Ydris.... Yet...

    Part of my system... is spending XX amount of time cold calling...

    It's what gets me more business than anything else.

    That being said though... Any business should have 5 different marketing streams working at the same time all at once.

    For me... cold calling is the best... most cost effective and results oriented marketing stream. But that doesn't mean I don't do other things...

    There is sooooo much that can be done.

    Direct Mail - Marketing Stream
    Business Cards - Marketing Stream
    Emails - Marketing Stream
    Flyers - Marketing Stream
    Network Meetings - Marketing Stream
    Better Business Bureau - Marketing Stream

    The list really goes on.... on and on... and on..... till the break o' dawn.

    If you are just doing one... do cold calling...

    If you are just starting out... and need money fast... Cold Call.

    If you want to finance other marketing streams.... Cold call....

    Just my experience.... you can do what works for you.
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