Whats The Best Solution --- Clients who dont want you to touch their website.

Just build a feeder site or sites. Once he sees those ranking way above his, he may change his mind.

I have one like this as well. I give very detailed instructions on a page by page basis and have his webmaster do it.

It's not my preference, but if that is what they want for $1500 a mos. - so be it.

They pay you $1500 permonth but wont let you touch their site? do you have more clients like this, send them to me..lol But seriously, what you can advice them is by comparing their site with how well you rank with yours within certain amount of time. Secondly you can get press releases, article and video done for their off-site SEO regards, Shah

LOL What? 240 in Google and won't let you seo the site and is paying you too? Somethings not right.

Does this guy fear your going to fubar his site or something? Could there be a trust factor in your technical abilities by the client or?

Idk... I wouldn't really go switching links on someone if you're contractually tied to them, see maybe you could rent your own website or sell leads?

If it has to be his website then there's a program called SE Nuke, theres a WSO on it, it uses no on site SEO and yeah, can get your page ranking pretty well, I tested it on a freshly indexed website for keywords getting around 12,000,000 results and I was ranking 14th.

It's not exactly white hat though as it's automated and I personally wouldn't use this on a clients website just in case, but it's always an option if you fully explain the process to them.

Yep minisite feeder that's offer specific. That can be multipurposed for all kinds of things like PPC campaigns as well.

I have a few of these and we implemented a competing blog system and just did posts sending them traffic.

If they are that protective I would not touch it because you get something wrong and your in big trouble.

Most of these customer blog sites are on page one and their sites way back so they are happy and I am happy.

Quentin

301 redirect is good for your client but not for your site. Building backlinks is what I am recommending as of this moment since they don't want you to touch their site for SEO purposes. Try to create a SEO report of their site and explain to them the importance of on-site optimization.

I've had several clients like that in the past. One way we've managed clients like that is to have them make all the changes - you just send them the whitepapers and they then update the site on their terms. The drawbacks to this is that if they're not "on-board" with your changes and take their time, it could take several weeks to get changes done on their website - which in turn makes it months before they see significant jumps in rankings/improvement.

As for setting up "feeder" sites (which I call them satellite sites), the problem with that is that you're starting from scratch. Google's search engine is still very dependent on "Domain Age" so having, not only a domain that's old, but a domain with OLD links is going to make your job EXTREMELY easier to get ranked rather then starting with a brand new domain.

Having said that, if there domain is new and they don't have a lot of authority just yet, then it won't really matter. Of course, if they're a "brand", getting links can be easier to their main site rather then trying to get links to the satellite site you setup... something you have to assess.

I've told clients in the past if they don't let me have access to the website to make changes and I have to setup a satellite site, the "timeline" doubles for rankings. If they're "OK" with that, then you just make twice the money. It happens.