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Opinions on Profile links?

by totman
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what are y'alls opinions (especially personal experiences) with linkbuilding via forum profile links (such as angelas links)???
#links #opinions #profile
  • Profile picture of the author driven247
    Profile links flat out work. And if your looking at ranking local sites then you won't need many in most cases. I use them on almost every site I build whether it's for an offline client or general internet marketing stuff I'm doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
      Hi driven

      Agreed.

      What we do to make sure that they work is to ping them over time so that the SE's pick them up and they don't get wasted by not being found.

      Regards

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      Originally Posted by driven247 View Post

      Profile links flat out work. And if your looking at ranking local sites then you won't need many in most cases. I use them on almost every site I build whether it's for an offline client or general internet marketing stuff I'm doing.
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      • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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        Originally Posted by driven247 View Post

        Profile links flat out work. And if your looking at ranking local sites then you won't need many in most cases. I use them on almost every site I build whether it's for an offline client or general internet marketing stuff I'm doing.
        Originally Posted by bronke13 View Post

        Hi driven

        Agreed.

        What we do to make sure that they work is to ping them over time so that the SE's pick them up and they don't get wasted by not being found.

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Generally I let mine get index by itself first then later on I run them through pingdevice.com for maximum exposure.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
          Hi Benjamin

          Yeah pingdevice is a pretty cool FREE tool.

          That's what we use too - but we chose to start the indexing process ourselves rather than wait.

          We only ping a few - just enough to make a difference.

          Regards

          Bronwyn and Keith
          Originally Posted by humbledmarket View Post

          Generally I let mine get index by itself first then later on I run them through pingdevice.com for maximum exposure.
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    • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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      Originally Posted by driven247 View Post

      Profile links flat out work. And if your looking at ranking local sites then you won't need many in most cases. I use them on almost every site I build whether it's for an offline client or general internet marketing stuff I'm doing.
      They do work well in most cases the great thing about those profile links are that you aren't really spamming as much as you would with a blog comment because these are simple profiles that anyone can create. It can be fairly time consuming if done manually though but they are effective.

      the great thing about them is that unlike many blog comments you have higher success rates then waiting for the comment to be approved.

      Generally my personal preference are contextual links and directory submission but I also use a little bit of each. Having a good mixture is very helpful with SEO it has gotten many of my clients and my own sites increase in SERPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kysersoze
    There are a lot of people who dispute the effectiveness of these links. I have many websites and also create WP sites for customers and I have tested this out.

    I find them to be effective when tested on keywords which have medium to low competition. I have seen very fast results and positive movement using just high PR profile links. For more competitive keywords it cannot be the only SEO you do for your site. I also do a very good job of page optimization which also helps my end results.

    All in all I consider them a positive and should always be accompanied with other proven methods especially for the really competitive words.
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineMarketingSys
      Originally Posted by Kysersoze View Post

      There are a lot of people who dispute the effectiveness of these links. I have many websites and also create WP sites for customers and I have tested this out.

      I find them to be effective when tested on keywords which have medium to low competition. I have seen very fast results and positive movement using just high PR profile links. For more competitive keywords it cannot be the only SEO you do for your site. I also do a very good job of page optimization which also helps my end results.

      All in all I consider them a positive and should always be accompanied with other proven methods especially for the really competitive words.
      Absolutely correct. They certainly do work. The main thing is you have to create a lot of them or make sure the ones you do create are getting indexed.

      Profile links are notoriously difficult to get indexed, simply because their isn't any real content on the pages. So if you create 100 profile links, and simply forget about them, generally you are lucky to get 10 actually indexed.

      So either create backlinks to your backlinks, use RSS feeds, bookmark them, or use automated indexing tools. Or better off yet use a combination of all the methods to make sure that the profile links are getting indexed and sticking.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
        Hey Kevin

        Yep. We are on the same page on this.

        You just added the meat to the bones.

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Originally Posted by OnlineMarketingSys View Post

        Absolutely correct. They certainly do work. The main thing is you have to create a lot of them or make sure the ones you do create are getting indexed.

        Profile links are notoriously difficult to get indexed, simply because their isn't any real content on the pages. So if you create 100 profile links, and simply forget about them, generally you are lucky to get 10 actually indexed.

        So either create backlinks to your backlinks, use RSS feeds, bookmark them, or use automated indexing tools. Or better off yet use a combination of all the methods to make sure that the profile links are getting indexed and sticking.
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  • Profile picture of the author securelogy
    Profile Backlinks are the quickest form of back links to get, and certainly very effective. I am not sure why people are giving it bad name. I have personally ranked 100 domains in the past 6 months just by profile back linking alone. normally, If I do not have a strong competition I can get a site ranged in just 4 weeks to in Google top 10. I don't use Angela backlink files. I think it is overrated. I use DFB, and it works fine for me because I have a lot of domains.

    It is very expensive though.
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  • Profile picture of the author navyseal
    It really helpful sometimes.

    Just to make sure you put a decent photo and a description profile which great not just a copy and paste.

    then don't forget to add your url links to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author claudemai
    Profile links are an easy way to give publicity to a website. It has been in practice for quite a few years and it is found efficient. It is an indirect way to get the website publicized. The most common way it is used to practice is by making the presence of the website known by commenting on forums, blogs, media, other websites etc. These forms of internet publicity provide space for URLs to be mentioned and special space will be given for such details. Making use of these is the most efficient way of profile linking.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristofferIM
    I use them as well but as Google evolves, I try to do the same. Even if profile backlinks might work just fine at the moment I try to think long term. For this reason, I build profile backlinks to rank quickly in the beginning but I try to back it up with quality links as well. This can be PAD links for example.
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  • Profile picture of the author Voasi
    Profile links do work, but the problem lies in getting the links cached and cataloged in Google's algo.

    Here's my strategy:

    - Have an outsourcer do profile links through several people's "packets"
    - I then have them post each link within a private network of blogs that I have created that gets indexed every few hours

    This ensures that each link they put up is going to get indexed and count towards my site or my client's sites.

    As a bonus, I don't have to do as many to see a "return" because they're getting indexed, where-as with others, they just keep throwing them up (or pinging them, which can take awhile too) and hoping/waiting for rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      I've had a great deal of success using profile links. I don't point many of them at the main page I am trying to rank. I point about 80% to Web 2.0 sites pointing at my main site. The other 20% at the main site. It has worked out really well for me for local search rankings. Don't see much of the Google dance this way either. The Web 2.0 sites bounce around, but not the main site.

      There are a lot of tools that will automate this for you. I have one in particular that I like, but most are pretty effective that I have seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      http://helpendworldhunger.com


      That page goes to the latest Video and an email from Jay Stockwell, owner of SpeedPPC in Australia - 100% of Sales goes to the Flood Victims in Brisbane, Queensland, AU

      As of 11/20/10 Backlinks lost almost all value due to SPAM. Links in blog comments and forum profiles are ignored, even navigational links are not counted anymore. All those "powered by" links are considered gutter links along with the footer and anything else below the footer - all ignored.

      Paid links are out except for privately negotiated contextual links between site owners or webmasters - and you only need about 50 good ones within the content and either on the home page or directly linked to it. Any pages with duplicate page titles, descriptions, meta tags and keywords are ignored and so are the links on them.

      The only thing Google recognizes now is natural, human created and edited work. Automation, even with footprints, is okay for helping, not replacing human input. Google knows the difference more and more every week.

      If you want to get SMART instead of staying in denial with the rest of the now defunct link teams, go to the mall or wherever there are computers and visit every desk owner you can find. Smile and ask for a favor. You need a quick review done or some mention of you and your site in Merchants Circle or Yelp or Amazon, DIGG or anywhere else that counts like a review. If you have products, list them in Amazon for free and then get reviews on them. If you don't have any products, get some. Link Building is now LIKE Building.

      The more "homemade" your website is, the higher it's going to rank when all those sites get re-indexed and start dropping like flies - yours won't unless you don't like being alone at the top. Bring a coat and light a fire while you wait. They'll catch up sooner or later!! Have fun.
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      • Profile picture of the author rafterman
        Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

        http://helpendworldhunger.com


        That page goes to the latest Video and an email from Jay Stockwell, owner of SpeedPPC in Australia - 100% of Sales goes to the Flood Victims in Brisbane, Queensland, AU

        As of 11/20/10 Backlinks lost almost all value due to SPAM. Links in blog comments and forum profiles are ignored, even navigational links are not counted anymore. All those "powered by" links are considered gutter links along with the footer and anything else below the footer - all ignored.

        Paid links are out except for privately negotiated contextual links between site owners or webmasters - and you only need about 50 good ones within the content and either on the home page or directly linked to it. Any pages with duplicate page titles, descriptions, meta tags and keywords are ignored and so are the links on them.

        The only thing Google recognizes now is natural, human created and edited work. Automation, even with footprints, is okay for helping, not replacing human input. Google knows the difference more and more every week.

        If you want to get SMART instead of staying in denial with the rest of the now defunct link teams, go to the mall or wherever there are computers and visit every desk owner you can find. Smile and ask for a favor. You need a quick review done or some mention of you and your site in Merchants Circle or Yelp or Amazon, DIGG or anywhere else that counts like a review. If you have products, list them in Amazon for free and then get reviews on them. If you don't have any products, get some. Link Building is now LIKE Building.

        The more "homemade" your website is, the higher it's going to rank when all those sites get re-indexed and start dropping like flies - yours won't unless you don't like being alone at the top. Bring a coat and light a fire while you wait. They'll catch up sooner or later!! Have fun.
        so the people above are lying?
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        • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
          NO, of course not. Nobody is lying. They just don't know yet. It takes awhile before all the websites are in tune with new algorithms that change every single week. The one on 11/20/2010 was major but to Google it was just like taking out the garbage.

          SPAM took over everything that Google no longer counts towards the page rank. Nobody gets penalized or sand boxed for anything they don't count. That's what people who have already noticed the sites dropping think. They assume they've been sand boxed but that's not the case. People believe what they want. Don't count on any guru news just yet either.

          This is an elite, very limited, Linking Service. The price for each of our links is $250, with a five link purchase required. We do NOT rebill you. This backlink will be counted because there's nothing wrong with it. It's not mine and I didn't buy it nor do I want it. It's just FYI
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          • Profile picture of the author rajesh88
            My take is that they worked great about 12 to 18 months ago. What I'm finding recently is that there are 3 types of forum sites out there.

            First, there are sites where the owner has become weary with deleting 1000+ spam accounts a day. As a result, they've used their forum software to block profile links entirely, made their forum nofollow or have greatly increased their restriction and moderation of new accounts.

            Second, there are forums that are still essentially wide open due to poor or MIA moderation. While you can put your link there without a pause, so can thousands of other spammers. Thus, links from these sites get discounted or entirely disregarded by Google, making them useless. This is very often the result found from wide open .edu forums. They retain their PR but send no juice at all out of the site.

            Third, there are still some gems out there where you can leave a link and have it counted. The moderation keeps out the riff-raff but, as long as you're reasonably discrete, you can leave your link without a problem. However, I'm seeing fewer and fewer of these and many more of the other two types.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
        Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

        http://helpendworldhunger.com


        That page goes to the latest Video and an email from Jay Stockwell, owner of SpeedPPC in Australia - 100% of Sales goes to the Flood Victims in Brisbane, Queensland, AU

        As of 11/20/10 Backlinks lost almost all value due to SPAM. Links in blog comments and forum profiles are ignored, even navigational links are not counted anymore. All those "powered by" links are considered gutter links along with the footer and anything else below the footer - all ignored.

        Paid links are out except for ......


        This is discouraging news...

        Anyone else hear about this?
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        • Profile picture of the author cborgrx
          I have two big questions regarding profile links....first do you think it is important to post in the forum once you join and not just be on the signature page.....second, I subscirbe to a service which tells me which sites to join....some of these sites are either in a foreign language or are highly technical...in either case I would never be able to participate, so I don't see the point. Thank you for your help.
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          • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
            Originally Posted by cborgrx View Post

            I have two big questions regarding profile links....first do you think it is important to post in the forum once you join and not just be on the signature page.....second, I subscirbe to a service which tells me which sites to join....some of these sites are either in a foreign language or are highly technical...in either case I would never be able to participate, so I don't see the point. Thank you for your help.
            Yes, it is important to post in the forums and use the signature and your posts will show up in the search engines for certain keyword phrases among other things. There is no point is registering at any forum unless you're going to participate. That's why Google ignores forum registrations now - all of them are ignored due to the huge amounts of spam and registering for no other reason than to get a backlink.

            The idea behind counting forum registrations was for giving the site owner credit for being involved in something that increased his knowledge and brought value back to his website. What a joke that turned out to be especially when the term "sandbox" started being used! Google sends grown adults back to play in the sandbox when they don't "behave" on the internet but that didn't stop them.

            Automated tools send even more spam and that's why you need to change your strategy and do what works, while it still does work and before the gurus decide to automate what's left of getting a decent review. You guys on this thread have a head start. Let the rest of them wallow in massive backlinks that don't count anymore while you step beyond what you know and do something different. Reviews are what count the most now and by the way, hope is not a strategy just because you're hoping I'm wrong!
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  • Profile picture of the author John-Galt
    I work with a lot of business developing their Google Places / Yahoo Business listings and I know that these are very important. I offer "7 Box Guarantees" (used to be called a 10 box) to a lot of them and these back-links play a huge role in getting their Places listings into/up in the 7 box.
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  • Profile picture of the author rafterman
    hopefully in the mid competition areas they'll still hold their link weight
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    • Profile picture of the author Anthony C
      I've used profile links extensively since starting IM about a year and a half ago and it has definitely made a difference for my sites. I initially started out manually building my own links with Paul and Angela's back link packets and also used the same profile links that competing sites in my niches were using. I finally have a couple sites making money, so now I outsource.
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