Mobile Website Design big business in our local market!

joewho · 31st May 2011, 06:05 AM

Hi Luke. Thank your for sending me this great template. All the best!

Originally Posted by Luke Bishop

I'm doing this atm, I can pump these out in no time.

pm me if you would like the psd template.

profitgenerator · 31st May 2011, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by WillR

Considering that 1 in 5 local searches is now mobile that means 20% of the traffic to a site is coming from a mobile device. That's huge and will only keep growing. If a business is spending good money on attracting those customers to their website then they could easily be throwing away 20% of their advertising budget on people who can't access their website properly.

There you go....Will just gave us a great "selling-points speach" to help a business owner understand the value of having a mobile site and planted a huge seed in their brain about the consequences if they don't. Seems that information alone should get them off the fence and pulling out their wallet.

And on the subject of getting new business....I've read several times that business owners say, okay I'll get my webmaster on that. How do you experienced folks handle that response so that you get their business?

Gale10 · 31st May 2011, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by zoro

Ruth, if you bought Will's mobile website course you will see that Will has supplied a list of the best type of businesses to target.

Thank you zoro,

You are of course, quite right. I had read it - I just couldn't remember where I had read it. Found it now though!

Best wishes,

Ruth

TraceK · 31st May 2011, 03:48 PM

I sent out 28 emails this morning and 3 hours later I have received one response back, asking for the free report.

I have a guy from the Philippines using Quentin's script to make a standard template I can use for this niche.

He is charging me $3.33 an hour, is very good and works fast. And he is happy with what he is making.

Quentin, if you're reading this, should I pay you for another seat license if my developer will be accessing your script?

Per John Durham, if this flies, I plan on using the Bower method to give away the site for free and giving them hosting for $29.95 a month. This will include giving them free hosting on their current domain.

I have a multi-hosting account with GoDaddy for $180 a year. The GoDaddy rep told me I can host unlimited domains on my account. Hope the rep is correct.

Thanks to all the people on this thread for sharing their ideas so freely...

profitgenerator · 31st May 2011, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by TraceK

Per John Durham, if this flies, I plan on using the Bower method to give away the site for free and giving them hosting for $29.95 a month. This will include giving them free hosting on their current domain.

I have a multi-hosting account with GoDaddy for $180 a year. The GoDaddy rep told me I can host unlimited domains on my account. Hope the rep is correct.

Thanks to all the people on this thread for sharing their ideas so freely...

I have a couple questions about hosting....
In the scenario above, would it be best to have a dedicated server to host your clients sites on rather than a shared account that has many other people using the same server? If one of the other accounts on that shared server gets hacked and infected, it can spread to the other accounts including your clients sites. Does that sound accurate?

scotth · 31st May 2011, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by TraceK

I sent out 28 emails this morning and 3 hours later I have received one response back, asking for the free report.

I have a guy from the Philippines using Quentin's script to make a standard template I can use for this niche.

He is charging me $3.33 an hour, is very good and works fast. And he is happy with what he is making.

Quentin, if you're reading this, should I pay you for another seat license if my developer will be accessing your script?

Per John Durham, if this flies, I plan on using the Bower method to give away the site for free and giving them hosting for $29.95 a month. This will include giving them free hosting on their current domain.

I have a multi-hosting account with GoDaddy for $180 a year. The GoDaddy rep told me I can host unlimited domains on my account. Hope the rep is correct.

Thanks to all the people on this thread for sharing their ideas so freely...

Why would you charge a monthly fee for a mobile site? You are doing no favors to the business owner...only reason you should charge monthly if you are doing updates frequently..all they need is m. subdomain on their current domain. Charging them a hosting fee when they are all ready paying a hosting on their domain is not good business.

webdiva07 · 31st May 2011, 06:34 PM

I have read on several posts that charging the client for hosting is not a good idea because all they need is a m. subdomain. In a lot of situations, the client is already going to have a webmaster for their website, hence it seems to me that one is also going to have to deal with the webmaster to get access to the server so they can create the subdomain because the owner may not even know what their username or password is. A lot of times, the webmaster is not going to be to helpful on allowing you to do this.

1) Any ideas on the best way to handle this.
2) What is wrong with having the client get a .mobi domain name and then one only has to ask the webmaster to add the redirect script?

Looking for suggestions? We all want to be successful.

WillR · 31st May 2011, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by scotth

Why would you charge a monthly fee for a mobile site? You are doing no favors to the business owner...only reason you should charge monthly if you are doing updates frequently..all they need is m. subdomain on their current domain. Charging them a hosting fee when they are all ready paying a hosting on their domain is not good business.

Originally Posted by webdiva07

I have read on several posts that charging the client for hosting is not a good idea because all they need is a m. subdomain. In a lot of situations, the client is already going to have a webmaster for their website, hence it seems to me that one is also going to have to deal with the webmaster to get access to the server so they can create the subdomain because the owner may not even know what their username or password is. A lot of times, the webmaster is not going to be to helpful on allowing you to do this.

1) Any ideas on the best way to handle this.
2) What is wrong with having the client get a .mobi domain name and then one only has to ask the webmaster to add the redirect script?

Looking for suggestions? We all want to be successful.

If you are giving away the mobile websites for 'free' then charging for hosting is fine. That is why they are getting the website for free on the provisor they host the website through you. It's a way for clients to get a mobile website up and running without having to fork out the full amount upfront.

WillR · 31st May 2011, 07:44 PM

Here's another tip guys.

Do you have a client that you currently work with and would love to upsell to a mobile website? A great way to do this is to make sure they have Google Analytics installed on their current website - any good website should. Once analytics has run for a while you can then go in and click on 'Visitors' > 'Mobile' > 'Mobile Devices' and it will show you the actual percentage of total visitors that are accessing that website on a mobile device.

This number is going to be higher for local service type businesses and will continue to grow over the next few years. There's no better way to prove to a client the need for a mobile site than to show them the actual data that relates to their very own website.

Quentin · 31st May 2011, 08:03 PM

Hi Trace

I have made a video for your outsource staff and you can get it by logging into your account and go to Microsoft Front Page Sites and download the video.

Simply upload to your own server and add your own instructions or send direct.

As for hosting you can add hundreds to a shared hosting site as mobile websites are very small so use very few resources. Just create a new folder for customer.

Q

TraceK · 31st May 2011, 08:33 PM

As far as charging them a hosting fee, I am open to differing opinions, but if I host their mobile site and their current site for $29.95 a month, that, in most instances, is probably less than what they're paying for just their current site now.

So IMO they are getting two for one. AND getting a free mobile site.

I believe a huge chunk of the market has been abandoned by their last web guy anyway...

As for the current web person not being cooperative, yeah, that's probably going to be the case a lot. Business is business. This is not flower arranging class. It's (hopefully) ethical competition and survival of the fittest. I've been in various businesses for decades and I don't really recall my competitors ever cutting me a break...

But I ramble...

WillR · 31st May 2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by TraceK

I believe a huge chunk of the market has been abandoned by their last web guy anyway...

As for the current web person not being cooperative, yeah, that's probably going to be the case a lot. Business is business. This is not flower arranging class. It's (hopefully) ethical competition and survival of the fittest. I've been in various businesses for decades and I don't really recall my competitors ever cutting me a break...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

If you have something someone wants then it doesn't matter if they have a current webmaster. If the webmaster has a chance to butt in then you haven't done your job well enough.

Plenty of people change service providers all the time.

zoro · 31st May 2011, 11:45 PM

Look at this new WSO for click button simple Mobile Websites and Squeeze pages. This looks sooo easy! http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...0-minutes.html

Not afilliate link.

What do you guys think about this new software?

Adrian John · 1st Jun 2011, 01:18 AM

It looks good and i would love to see the email thing he provides.Will look into it.
What i would do if i could?
I would spend the 60 minutes on getting clients and i would outsource the designs.
I'm working right now with people doing exactly this.We both focus on what we know best, they on selling the websites, i, on the designs and nobody is losing any time. It's a win-win situation.

Originally Posted by zoro

Look at this new WSO for click button simple Mobile Websites and Squeeze pages. This looks sooo easy! http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...0-minutes.html

Not afilliate link.

What do you guys think about this new software?

egortari · 1st Jun 2011, 09:39 AM

Hey Luke,

Thanks for your prompt reply and wonderful template, it would certainly help grabbing the attention of my potential clients.

Regards,

Efren

Originally Posted by Luke Bishop

I'm doing this atm, I can pump these out in no time.

pm me if you would like the psd template.

Quentin · 1st Jun 2011, 09:48 AM

I had two videos made on firverr for $5 each. One is for my mobile website building business and this one is for the course. I think a short video like this could help you get clients and for $5 its worth a try.

YouTube - Business Mobile Websites you can profit...

Quentin

Nail Yener · 1st Jun 2011, 09:56 AM

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

Quentin · 1st Jun 2011, 11:06 AM

Excellent work Nail

Now do a really good job and impress the client then ask for referrals.

I love this business.

Q

sb · 1st Jun 2011, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Nail Yener

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

CONGRATULATIONS Nail.

I'd be contacting most of the businesses located in close proximity to your new client to tell them what you're doing and give them the name of your new clients as they'll know who it is.

I'd also contact other businesses that are in the same business as your new client and talk about what you're doing for them.

Get that wave rolling and ride it.

scotth · 1st Jun 2011, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Nail Yener

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

Excellent work Nail! Now nothing will stop you..dont forget to get referrers from your new client!

Nail Yener · 1st Jun 2011, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by sb

CONGRATULATIONS Nail.

I'd be contacting most of the businesses located in close proximity to your new client to tell them what you're doing and give them the name of your new clients as they'll know who it is.

I'd also contact other businesses that are in the same business as your new client and talk about what you're doing for them.

Get that wave rolling and ride it.

That's an excellent tip, I will definitely do this, thanks.

Jay Moreno · 1st Jun 2011, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by philboy uk

I would appreciate any advice on adding a search function to a mobile website. I ask this in anticipation of talking with estate agents, as their mobile websites normally display price ranges.

you would need to build your mobile site with php/MYSQL - if your not technical you will probably need to outsource this...

profitgenerator · 1st Jun 2011, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Nail Yener

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

Nail, I read your story and your email approach that you carefully crafted sounds very well done! Congratulations. I learned some good things from you today :-)

allegrity · 1st Jun 2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Nail Yener

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

You have inspired me, Nail. No success yet but I will keep going!

Jay Moreno · 1st Jun 2011, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nail Yener

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

good work - and congrats for sticking with it!

WillR · 1st Jun 2011, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Quentin

I had two videos made on firverr for $5 each. One is for my mobile website building business and this one is for the course. I think a short video like this could help you get clients and for $5 its worth a try.

YouTube - Business Mobile Websites you can profit from

Quentin

Hmm, I don't know about that. It's not really providing any value to the potential customer it's just trying to sell. As you say, you should always test things but I would think a video like that is way too over the top and doesn't really provide any information or reasons as to why a customer should use your service. I think a voice screencast video would win hands down over something like that every day of the week.

Quentin · 1st Jun 2011, 09:19 PM

Your probably right Will but it was fun.

Q

profitgenerator · 1st Jun 2011, 09:53 PM

Quentin, I think the video did a good job of making me curious enough to want more information but not to buy. I would have followed a link to see what it's all about. Just my $.02 worth.

jejeje · 1st Jun 2011, 09:57 PM

Mobile Website Designing is emerging because a lot of phones now are smart and android.

T2007 · 2nd Jun 2011, 12:16 AM

Thanks for the tips, Scott.
What host do you use? And, under what domain?

Originally Posted by scotth

hey rolltide...if your experienced in HTML quick...I can create a mobile site using Quentin script in about 1 hour...thats a 4 page site. I am experimenting with different prices...I have been asking for $497 with free hosting for one year...I have also sold charging $397 plus $29.95 per month for hosting...if its a service based business like a restaurant that would have frequent updates I charge $47 to $97 per month. Plus I optimize the mobile site for mobile search.

ScottH

WillR · 2nd Jun 2011, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Quentin

Your probably right Will but it was fun.

Q

I gotta say, those videos are weird. They do give you that sense of suspense and curiosity but I've just never thought they would be taken seriously by people for a product or service.

I wonder if anyone has tested this style of video for any type of IM ventures.

HollyK · 2nd Jun 2011, 02:46 AM

Scott, thanks for starting this thread. I have Quentin's WSO and he did a wonderful job with it. Follow up support is great, too.

There are still some WAP sites out there, but most developers have gone to formatting for iPhone/Android instead now.

I am using wptap for my blog (in signature) but made the title too long so it runs on. I put that up there ages ago I've also got some other wordpress plugins that I use on other sites, or just plain mobile wordpress themes. The most basic mobile plugin was written by James Pearce and his team when he was still at dotMobi, which is WAP compatible but very basic and you can't edit it very well.

One of these days I'll review more of the plugins but I have been too busy.

Personally, I like .mobi over m.whatever.com, if only as an easy to remember redirect like target.mobi redirects to a mobile site on a .com.

I'm looking forward to really digging into this thread when I have some time. 12 pages is a lot of reading!

Jay Moreno · 2nd Jun 2011, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Technologist

I'm looking forward to really digging into this thread when I have some time. 12 pages is a lot of reading!

12 pages... its 23 pages! lol welcome to the thread though

scotth · 2nd Jun 2011, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by T2007

Thanks for the tips, Scott.
What host do you use? And, under what domain?

Hi, I am using Hostgator...my main domain is effective-internet-marketing.com

Jqsh · 3rd Jun 2011, 02:08 AM

Hi @Luke Bishop - am interested in your psd template but can't PM :-( ...thanks for sharing!

tx138 · 3rd Jun 2011, 09:42 AM

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Rob Richards · 3rd Jun 2011, 10:50 AM

Time for me to chime in with a couple of questions - great thread btw =)

1. Re: subdomains - is there any benefit to having a Sub-domain verses a Directory?

www.m.domain.com vs. www.domain.com/m ?

I know that sub-domains are a breeze to make on most hosts, but a directory is even easier imho.

2. Is there an easy way to shrink images down without losing clarity? I've used Paint to reduce some images, but when they get too small, they don't look clear any longer.

Thanks in advance!

Rob

SirThomas · 3rd Jun 2011, 11:30 AM

Thank you Luke for the template! Really appreciated.

Thomas

Originally Posted by Luke Bishop

I'm doing this atm, I can pump these out in no time.

pm me if you would like the psd template.

Noel 100K · 3rd Jun 2011, 12:04 PM

I am working on a client right now. I hope to close the deal in 5 days or less.

TraceK · 3rd Jun 2011, 12:28 PM

I had a contractor from oDesk send out 100 emails for a free mobile site. She charged me $1.33 per hour.

I got three responses asking for the report.

I guess now I will go to fivver to have someone make a sales video...?

Wonder how many people gotta watch the video before they convert...

kbsamurai · 3rd Jun 2011, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by scotth

Why would you charge a monthly fee for a mobile site? You are doing no favors to the business owner...only reason you should charge monthly if you are doing updates frequently..all they need is m. subdomain on their current domain. Charging them a hosting fee when they are all ready paying a hosting on their domain is not good business.

hmmm.... why would you NOT charge a monthly fee. When I read this, this strikes me as a poverty mindset coming from a position of weakness. To say "all they need is m. subdomain" is to think they actually know what the heck you are talking about or even want to know what the heck you are talking about.

A monthly fee under $30 for any real business is pennies. I don't call it hosting fee. It's a maintenance fee. It's a nominal fee that means I take their calls and if they want some things changed like a coupon or promotion added - they can call or send an email. They don't have to worry about what it might cost, or spending any time thinking about or making any additional paperwork for new business. We already have an established ongoing relationship and don't have to go establishing a new one anytime they want to change something. The normal cost I've charged for per hour of consulting in the past would make this about 15-20 min. of my time and I'm on the cheap end. Also if you have done it right, they will see you as an expert and will be asking you questions and so either you get in the business of offering free advice or info, or you get in the business of billing them for you time. The former is not a good business model and the latter will kill your relationship.

Frankly, I charge an upfront fee for 5 page mobile site and a monthly fee. If I come across someone that doesn't want to pay such a low monthly fee, I say no problem, and quote them a one-time price about 3x as much and require ftp access to their current hosting site to set it up. But my experience has been that the truly successful business owners aren't interested in that, they want you to take care of that and have no problem with such a small fee. And I have no problem with their emails or calling me for questions, advice, or help as I am continuing to get paid while it fosters a better relationship which often leads to additional business with them and referrals.

One time large payments is a terrible business model, that means you have to spend more time hoofing it for new clients as you lose a good client every time they sign.

scotth · 3rd Jun 2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by kbsamurai

hmmm.... why would you NOT charge a monthly fee. When I read this, this strikes me as a poverty mindset coming from a position of weakness. To say "all they need is m. subdomain" is to think they actually know what the heck you are talking about or even want to know what the heck you are talking about.

A monthly fee under $30 for any real business is pennies. I don't call it hosting fee. It's a maintenance fee. It's a nominal fee that means I take their calls and if they want some things changed like a coupon or promotion added - they can call or send an email. They don't have to worry about what it might cost, or spending any time thinking about or making any additional paperwork for new business. We already have an established ongoing relationship and don't have to go establishing a new one anytime they want to change something. The normal cost I've charged for per hour of consulting in the past would make this about 15-20 min. of my time and I'm on the cheap end. Also if you have done it right, they will see you as an expert and will be asking you questions and so either you get in the business of offering free advice or info, or you get in the business of billing them for you time. The former is not a good business model and the latter will kill your relationship.

Frankly, I charge an upfront fee for 5 page mobile site and a monthly fee. If I come across someone that doesn't want to pay such a low monthly fee, I say no problem, and quote them a one-time price about 3x as much and require ftp access to their current hosting site to set it up. But my experience has been that the truly successful business owners aren't interested in that, they want you to take care of that and have no problem with such a small fee. And I have no problem with their emails or calling me for questions, advice, or help as I am continuing to get paid while it fosters a better relationship which often leads to additional business with them and referrals.

One time large payments is a terrible business model, that means you have to spend more time hoofing it for new clients as you lose a good client every time they sign.

LOL...Well I am far from a poverty mindset...what I am looking for when I set up a mobile site for a business owner is the SEO business since getting in the door of a business owner selling a mobile site is easy sale vs me coming in with SEO lingo.

SEO for me and what I charge out ways the measly $30 monthly residual from a business owner that will probably bug me..no thanks been there done that..I would rather walk away after I built their mobile site...I am looking for the business owner that will pay me $1500 set up and minimum $500 a month for traffic getting SEO and there are many out there and they dont bug you! Its the ones that pay $30 bucks a month that will bug you beyond my ability to deal with that type.

Mobilize · 3rd Jun 2011, 04:56 PM

Congrats Nail for the inspiration.

I am hoping to get my first client soon.

I promised the wife she will get the the money from my 1st for her birthday, June 25th.

Nothing like added pressure to get moving. I'm in trouble

Originally Posted by Nail Yener

Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client:

Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

GerryLee · 4th Jun 2011, 08:48 PM

Hi Luke Bishop,

I'd love to have a look at your new template...looks great!

Can't PM yet...could you PM me with details?

Thanks GR

WillR · 7th Jun 2011, 06:20 AM

Here's some more data to back up the push for mobile sites:

In its “Mobile Channel Strategy: An Overview” report, Forrester says 40% of the 58 online business managers it surveyed plan to developed a mobile-optimized web site. The business managers were from various industries, including retail. They are responding to the tremendous growth from 4% in 2007 to 12% in 2010 in the number of consumers who access the web via a mobile phone, notes report author Peter Wannemacher.

allegrity · 7th Jun 2011, 07:56 AM

Update on my progress:

No sales yet but I feel closer every day. I am still using e-mail marketing and I am waiting on a few people to start that will go into appointments for me that I will set for them.

I usually send out around 50 emails a day and usually always get a 60-70% response rate to the first e-mail and more responding on later days. How I approach it:

1. E-mail the business with a regular question that a customer will have such as what hours they are open or something about their product. (Got this tip from Nail)

2. When they respond with the answer, I e-mail them back thanking them for the information and that I was browsing the website on my phone but couldn't find the info myself since it was hard to navigate. I then go on to mention how a mobile website can help their business make more money and I have a report to send. I ask them who the right person would be to send the report to.

3. They tell me the e-mail address to send the report to (most of the time it is the same person I have been in contact with). I then send their personalized report.

4. Out of the daily 50 e-mails I send, I usually get a 10% rate of interest of owners wanting the report. It then goes down to 5% of them e-mailing me back questions or how much it will cost. I then go on to send a follow up e-mail to those I don't get a response from a week later.

Although I have not yet made a sale, I have gotten a few people tell me to get back to them in the near future and I have gotten interest. Gotta keep going.

scotth · 7th Jun 2011, 08:32 AM

That seems like a lot of emails and no clients...might want to rethink your method...I know that most hate cold calling but I assure you 20 calls a day your going to get at least 1 10 minute appointment a day..I have been doing this since February and tried many different ways to get clients...hands down no question cold calling is the fastest way to MONEY...once you spend 30 days of cold calling just 20 people a day thats easy...you will have at least have 7-10 new clients in 30 days if not sooner...now the referrals will start coming in...I know most cringe at cold calling but once you have one success you will not care anymore and you will be much more confident and this such an easy sell when you get in front of the business owner.

allegrity · 7th Jun 2011, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by scotth

That seems like a lot of emails and no clients...might want to rethink your method...I know that most hate cold calling but I assure you 20 calls a day your going to get at least 1 10 minute appointment a day..I have been doing this since February and tried many different ways to get clients...hands down no question cold calling is the fastest way to MONEY...once you spend 30 days of cold calling just 20 people a day thats easy...you will have at least have 7-10 new clients in 30 days if not sooner...now the referrals will start coming in...I know most cringe at cold calling but once you have one success you will not care anymore and you will be much more confident and this such an easy sell when you get in front of the business owner.

I know that cold calling has a higher close rate lol...I just can't go to appointments right now. That is why I am getting people to go to them for me and I can set them. I have no problem calling to set appointments with business owners. I just don't have reliable transportation right now.

flyinghammers · 8th Jun 2011, 03:41 PM

I really like this mobile website: http://m.famousdaves.com/#home. It has a nice clean appearance and is simple to use. I would like to create a similar site for restaurants.

I bought Quentin's wso. Is there a way to make rounded tables in Kompozer?

MagicAce · 8th Jun 2011, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by flyinghammers

I really like this mobile website: http://m.famousdaves.com/#home. It has a nice clean appearance and is simple to use. I would like to create a similar site for restaurants.

I bought Quentin's wso. Is there a way to make rounded tables in Kompozer?

Here's a mobile website I made in kompozerthat uses table with rounded corners:

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31st May 2011, 03:48 PM	#1104
TraceK Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I sent out 28 emails this morning and 3 hours later I have received one response back, asking for the free report. I have a guy from the Philippines using Quentin's script to make a standard template I can use for this niche. He is charging me $3.33 an hour, is very good and works fast. And he is happy with what he is making. Quentin, if you're reading this, should I pay you for another seat license if my developer will be accessing your script? Per John Durham, if this flies, I plan on using the Bower method to give away the site for free and giving them hosting for $29.95 a month. This will include giving them free hosting on their current domain. I have a multi-hosting account with GoDaddy for $180 a year. The GoDaddy rep told me I can host unlimited domains on my account. Hope the rep is correct. Thanks to all the people on this thread for sharing their ideas so freely...

31st May 2011, 06:34 PM	#1107
webdiva07 Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I have read on several posts that charging the client for hosting is not a good idea because all they need is a m. subdomain. In a lot of situations, the client is already going to have a webmaster for their website, hence it seems to me that one is also going to have to deal with the webmaster to get access to the server so they can create the subdomain because the owner may not even know what their username or password is. A lot of times, the webmaster is not going to be to helpful on allowing you to do this. 1) Any ideas on the best way to handle this. 2) What is wrong with having the client get a .mobi domain name and then one only has to ask the webmaster to add the redirect script? Looking for suggestions? We all want to be successful.

31st May 2011, 07:44 PM	#1109
WillR Digital Marketer War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 12,475 Thanks: 1,984 Thanked 8,187 Times in 4,079 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Here's another tip guys. Do you have a client that you currently work with and would love to upsell to a mobile website? A great way to do this is to make sure they have Google Analytics installed on their current website - any good website should. Once analytics has run for a while you can then go in and click on 'Visitors' > 'Mobile' > 'Mobile Devices' and it will show you the actual percentage of total visitors that are accessing that website on a mobile device. This number is going to be higher for local service type businesses and will continue to grow over the next few years. There's no better way to prove to a client the need for a mobile site than to show them the actual data that relates to their very own website.
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31st May 2011, 08:03 PM	#1110
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hi Trace I have made a video for your outsource staff and you can get it by logging into your account and go to Microsoft Front Page Sites and download the video. Simply upload to your own server and add your own instructions or send direct. As for hosting you can add hundreds to a shared hosting site as mobile websites are very small so use very few resources. Just create a new folder for customer. Q
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31st May 2011, 08:33 PM	#1111
TraceK Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: As far as charging them a hosting fee, I am open to differing opinions, but if I host their mobile site and their current site for $29.95 a month, that, in most instances, is probably less than what they're paying for just their current site now. So IMO they are getting two for one. AND getting a free mobile site. I believe a huge chunk of the market has been abandoned by their last web guy anyway... As for the current web person not being cooperative, yeah, that's probably going to be the case a lot. Business is business. This is not flower arranging class. It's (hopefully) ethical competition and survival of the fittest. I've been in various businesses for decades and I don't really recall my competitors ever cutting me a break... But I ramble...

31st May 2011, 11:45 PM	#1113
zoro Online for Offline War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Qld. Australia. Posts: 1,628 Thanks: 351 Thanked 222 Times in 191 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Look at this new WSO for click button simple Mobile Websites and Squeeze pages. This looks sooo easy! http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...0-minutes.html Not afilliate link. What do you guys think about this new software?

1st Jun 2011, 09:56 AM	#1117
Nail Yener You reap what you sow. War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Sometimes you don't. Posts: 1,078 Thanks: 196 Thanked 411 Times in 243 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Finally got my first client for a mobile website, and I did it with only email. You can read my story here. Thanks everybody for sharing their wisdom. To the ones who are still trying to get their first client: Don't give up, work on it persistently and always improve your sales strategy.

1st Jun 2011, 11:06 AM	#1118
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Excellent work Nail Now do a really good job and impress the client then ask for referrals. I love this business. Q
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1st Jun 2011, 09:19 PM	#1127
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Your probably right Will but it was fun. Q
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1st Jun 2011, 09:53 PM	#1128
profitgenerator HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 184 Thanks: 12 Thanked 59 Times in 43 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Quentin, I think the video did a good job of making me curious enough to want more information but not to buy. I would have followed a link to see what it's all about. Just my $.02 worth.

1st Jun 2011, 09:57 PM	#1129
jejeje Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Mobile Website Designing is emerging because a lot of phones now are smart and android.
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2nd Jun 2011, 02:46 AM	#1132
HollyK Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2007 Location: US Posts: 75 Thanks: 68 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Scott, thanks for starting this thread. I have Quentin's WSO and he did a wonderful job with it. Follow up support is great, too. There are still some WAP sites out there, but most developers have gone to formatting for iPhone/Android instead now. I am using wptap for my blog (in signature) but made the title too long so it runs on. I put that up there ages ago I've also got some other wordpress plugins that I use on other sites, or just plain mobile wordpress themes. The most basic mobile plugin was written by James Pearce and his team when he was still at dotMobi, which is WAP compatible but very basic and you can't edit it very well. One of these days I'll review more of the plugins but I have been too busy. Personally, I like .mobi over m.whatever.com, if only as an easy to remember redirect like target.mobi redirects to a mobile site on a .com. I'm looking forward to really digging into this thread when I have some time. 12 pages is a lot of reading!
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3rd Jun 2011, 02:08 AM	#1135
Jqsh Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 17 Thanks: 13 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hi @Luke Bishop - am interested in your psd template but can't PM :-( ...thanks for sharing!

3rd Jun 2011, 09:42 AM	#1136
tx138 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: California Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Mobile SEO Tips For Everyone \| SEOmoz

3rd Jun 2011, 10:50 AM	#1137
Rob Richards HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2007 Location: San Diego, USA. Posts: 188 Thanks: 20 Thanked 41 Times in 29 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Time for me to chime in with a couple of questions - great thread btw =) 1. Re: subdomains - is there any benefit to having a Sub-domain verses a Directory? www.m.domain.com vs. www.domain.com/m ? I know that sub-domains are a breeze to make on most hosts, but a directory is even easier imho. 2. Is there an easy way to shrink images down without losing clarity? I've used Paint to reduce some images, but when they get too small, they don't look clear any longer. Thanks in advance! Rob
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3rd Jun 2011, 12:04 PM	#1139
Noel 100K Peaceful Joy War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 459 Thanks: 34 Thanked 43 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I am working on a client right now. I hope to close the deal in 5 days or less.
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3rd Jun 2011, 12:28 PM	#1140
TraceK Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I had a contractor from oDesk send out 100 emails for a free mobile site. She charged me $1.33 per hour. I got three responses asking for the report. I guess now I will go to fivver to have someone make a sales video...? Wonder how many people gotta watch the video before they convert...

4th Jun 2011, 08:48 PM	#1144
GerryLee Active Warrior Join Date: 2011 Posts: 63 Thanks: 31 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hi Luke Bishop, I'd love to have a look at your new template...looks great! Can't PM yet...could you PM me with details? Thanks GR

7th Jun 2011, 07:56 AM	#1146
allegrity HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2010 Posts: 118 Thanks: 10 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Update on my progress: No sales yet but I feel closer every day. I am still using e-mail marketing and I am waiting on a few people to start that will go into appointments for me that I will set for them. I usually send out around 50 emails a day and usually always get a 60-70% response rate to the first e-mail and more responding on later days. How I approach it: 1. E-mail the business with a regular question that a customer will have such as what hours they are open or something about their product. (Got this tip from Nail) 2. When they respond with the answer, I e-mail them back thanking them for the information and that I was browsing the website on my phone but couldn't find the info myself since it was hard to navigate. I then go on to mention how a mobile website can help their business make more money and I have a report to send. I ask them who the right person would be to send the report to. 3. They tell me the e-mail address to send the report to (most of the time it is the same person I have been in contact with). I then send their personalized report. 4. Out of the daily 50 e-mails I send, I usually get a 10% rate of interest of owners wanting the report. It then goes down to 5% of them e-mailing me back questions or how much it will cost. I then go on to send a follow up e-mail to those I don't get a response from a week later. Although I have not yet made a sale, I have gotten a few people tell me to get back to them in the near future and I have gotten interest. Gotta keep going.

7th Jun 2011, 08:32 AM	#1147
scotth HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 325 Thanks: 9 Thanked 203 Times in 81 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: That seems like a lot of emails and no clients...might want to rethink your method...I know that most hate cold calling but I assure you 20 calls a day your going to get at least 1 10 minute appointment a day..I have been doing this since February and tried many different ways to get clients...hands down no question cold calling is the fastest way to MONEY...once you spend 30 days of cold calling just 20 people a day thats easy...you will have at least have 7-10 new clients in 30 days if not sooner...now the referrals will start coming in...I know most cringe at cold calling but once you have one success you will not care anymore and you will be much more confident and this such an easy sell when you get in front of the business owner.
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8th Jun 2011, 03:41 PM	#1149
flyinghammers John B Join Date: 2011 Posts: 145 Thanks: 49 Thanked 41 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I really like this mobile website: http://m.famousdaves.com/#home. It has a nice clean appearance and is simple to use. I would like to create a similar site for restaurants. I bought Quentin's wso. Is there a way to make rounded tables in Kompozer?