ryanpadilla

I told them I would get a mobile ordering page ready for them. And on top of that I work for them as a food runner, so it's going to be pretty hard walking around that place after I can't deliver what I said I could.

I have been looking for people to outsource it to, but the only company I found wants to charge 1600 dollars, which I don't think is that bad of a deal, but how much money should I add to that so I can make a profit?

Chris Virtue

Hey Warriors,

Is there anyone having success with cold visits? I know it's effective, but it's very hit and miss. I'm implementing other approaches in my arsenal and have tried cold visiting businesses, but the owners have never been in. The businesses were mostly restaurants and a few car repair shops and I went between 2-3 in the afternoon as that's usually the slow period for restaurants in between lunch and dinner. However, the owners are likely to leave and head out during the slow time to take a break until the dinner rush. Most restaurants don't unlock the doors in the morning until right at opening time (mostly 11 am), and that's when the owners are preparing for the lunch rush so that'd be a poor time to go walking in and expect their full attention for a few minutes. I used to work at a restaurant and know how upset the general manager would always get if an employee came in at lunch time to get their paycheck, much less someone to try and sell something.

What day and time have you been having success?

Thanks and have a great day!

Best regards,
Chris

Jay Moreno

look for a user called lilmikey he has a WSO that could help you out

javarog

Here you go,, give Andy a call he will set you up as a reseller

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frujid

I am having an issue with a site and redirection.

I am having problems redirecting to the mobile version of the site registered to a (.)mobi. The main site is a joomla site that is using a template. The joomla installation is not in the root folder, it is in a directory named "main" (www(.)domain.com/main). I initially set up a 301 permanent redirect so that users would automatically go to the "main" directory when they access the site www(.)domain.com. The mobile redirect is not working for me. Could it be an issue with this server redirect that is causing problems?

I am using the Will's script and handsetdetection service. I have another site that is redirecting fine so both scripts are working well. I have tried to get some assistance from HandsetDetection support, but I am yet to receive a reply after a day or so. I can't wait though so I am here as I need to get this client's site redirected.

Is there a better way to redirect to the client's main site?

JToneyUK

Hi Chris, is this an approach you have had any success with at all? I am seriously looking into the go out to a place to try and catch the owner in person approach. I'd actually ring the restaurant ahead to ask if the owner will be around that day. However, like you said, if you go there knowing the boss is in, it might be a busy time for him/her so maybe not they best approach.

However as you has pointed out, you can never assume they will be there. Hell they are the boss, they can come and go as they please. So there might never be a "perfect time" to catch them.

Jay Moreno

how did you load the mobile redirect in to the site?

did you copy and paste it into the main template?

you could paste it into a module too - typically though the Joomla editor will strip out any code/script you enter unless you turn off the editor or use something like JCE

I dont believe the permanent redirect should affect the script but would need to look at it to get a better idea...

if you need more info/help you know where i am... i have built several mobile sites with Joomla and also embedded multiple times redirect scripts in them to so am very familiar with Joomla/Mobile configurations...

Mobileman12

Scott? can I see a sample of a moble you built?

frujid

Thank you!!! I have been used to Joomla striping out the code on me but didn't observe the code closely enough and it is indeed littered with jibberish. Changed out the code and now redirecting fine. I put so much time into the issue being with 301 redirect. Just happy its solved. Thanks again Jay.

Jay Moreno

your welcome - you need anything else let me know, am currently building a number of plugins for wordpress, joomla and drupal to make this kind of thing much more simpler!

scotth

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hebrewslave

I have a question. When approaching a business client and wants your service what is the best paperwork to have invoice or contract ? Where can get both.

John Durham

This has got to be the hugest monster thread I have ever seen. Who knew there would be so much interest in this subject. Wow. Scott, amazing.

Wes Gomer

Thanks a lot Scott, Quentin, Will and others who have contributed here.

I went through the entire mammoth thread and after much hesitance I was able to pick up the YP and give a couple of businesses a call today. First gatekeeper said the owner's not there. Second gatekeeper went to get the owner, only to return and tell me that she's not there and if I would like to leave a message.

(I went to Manta.com, got the owners' names. Asked the gatekeeper for the owners with their first name only, and told them my first name only to get through)

I will call more businesses tomorrow.

Like a poster above asked, I would also like to know what kind of contract/agreement should we use once we do set an appointment?

Thanks.

kona

Does anyone know where to get a mobile simulator like the Quinton uses? I've been finding that one is only working on about 50% of the sites I've put in.
Thx
Mike

Mike Hays

Jay Moreno

when you say it only works on about 50% of the sites what do mean exactly?

its based around an iframe so it will only display whatever url you enter?

or am i missing something? just trying to help

i have quentins script and thinks its very good dont have any problems with it... are you looking for it to redirect the regular site to the mobile version?

sb

If you bought Quinten's course, he gives it to you.

This may work for you too: Mobilizer | Springbox

thriftgirl62

Iphone mobile simulator emulator

If you don't have a QR Code Reader you can GET ONE HERE.

With mobile set to overtake computers for websurfing by 2013, that puts the consumer back in control and marketers at their beck and call so to speak.

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AnthonyCurtis

I agree with Quentin... most business owners I've met are good people, plus they wouldn't have a clue :confused: how to steal my code.

Sebulba

Scott,

When you say you take a one page mock up. Do you mean you show it to them on your smart phone, or do you have it printed?

Thanks

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WillR

If you are going to be seeing the client in person then you definitely want to be showing them a working mock-up. Even if you were to turn up with a printed image, the first question they are going to ask is, can I see this in action on your smartphone... and rightly so.

One of the greatest advantages of face to face meetings is you can show and demonstrate the product to them in ways you cannot do over the phone or email. You need to use this to your maximum advantage. Walk them through the sample site and show them the main features and tell them how those features will benefit them and their customers.

ie: the homepage has this big click to call button on it. This means your customers can call you right away (with just one click) without having to mess around copying and pasting or trying to remember your number while they are driving or walking along.

On the find us page, as well as having a map of your location, there is also this box where customers can type in their current location and they are then given step by step directions right to your business. This means mobile customers will never have a problem finding your business again.

Your mobile site will also have this opening hours page that lists the exact hours you are open each day. This will help eliminate those annoying calls you get from people wanting to know when you close.

You get the idea. DON'T just tell/show them the features. Tell them how those features are going to make life easier for the business and/or their customers. Benefits sell - features don't.

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Vanquish

Congrats on your success Scott!

drdeeweb

I started making calls for mobile websites today. I tested with scripts from Mobile WSOs I bought and had well... mixed reviews. I didn't get any appointments and half of the business owners didn't seem like they understood mobile at all. A few did say to call them back in a week or so due to schedule. What am I missing? I have made calls before as a recruiter. I selected the targets that have been mentioned.
I will also send some emails tonight but thought that calling would be more effective initially. By the way I'm based in Texas if that matters. Any tips appreciated.

ronr

The good news about Mobile site design is it's not as saturated as SEO or "get on the first page of google". The bad news is when you talk to business owners on the phone, most kind of blank out and don't understand. However if you can show them in person how their website looks they get it right away but that's kind of tough to do on the phone :-)

JToneyUK

Damn, you've done well to just get on the phone and start making the calls! I read this thread weeks ago and have been putting off making the calls because I'm a big scaredy cat! lol! So you're going in the right direction.

How many calls did you make? As they say, this is probably a numbers game.

You touched upon the potential issue in your post. "Half of the business owners didn't seem like they understood mobile at all".

Think about how busy these people are, and how annoyed they probably get at people trying to sell them something. So what we are needing to do is to quickly and clearly explain things in laymans terms without making it sound like a sales pitch.

Now I can't exactly speak from experience, but initially its probably wise to say you was browsing the internet on your mobile phone, came across their website but had issues with reading the content and navigating around. Try to explain that many people are now using their phones to browse the internet and so they maybe losing business because their site is difficult to use on a small device. Then go straight into the part where you say you're willing to build them a demo of what you can offer if you can have 10 minutes of their time to demonstrate and discuss this issue.

AmarieP

I would like this template Luke. I know I'm late on the topic but if you still have this or anyone else would you mind sharing? I can't pm yet

WillR

Of course most of them are not going to understand mobile but that's not their fault. It's your job to educate them.

Obviously the hardest way to educate someone on a topic like mobile is going to be over the phone - unless you have a knack for explaining things nice and simply. The beauty of a face to face meeting, or even using screenshots or videos over email, is you can SHOW them the problem and solution instead of trying to explain it to them. This is why you are getting met with those responses.

I wouldn't be trying to explain anything to them over the phone. All you should be trying to do is spark their curiosity and get one step further in the process. You want to get them to agree to a face to face meeting or you want to get their email address so you can send them a video or short report that explains things via demonstration.

This is much more powerful.

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EvanBeck

I like the way you set up a page to send via email. Great idea! Thanks

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TroyZ

Hi All.. just found this thread a couple of days ago. Been reading through it and it's getting me excited to start with this. Will probably buy both Quentins' and Wills WSO. I just got this post on my Google + account and I think EVERYONE who's doing this business needs to use it to show prospective clients. It shows importance of mobile websites (with some stats)

ok I can't add links... so bear with me here

www dot searchenginepeople dot com/blog/10-point-mobile-checklist dot html

I think it would be a great idea to print it out and show clients why they need a mobile site.

btw... love WF and can't wait to make some $$$ creating sites

TroyZ

OK... a quick ? for probably both Quentin and Will (regarding your WSO's). Your scripts do they work for both orientations? Meaning will it fit properly (or resize) when users turn the phone to landscape then back to portrait?

thanks

Troy

JToneyUK

I can answer that for them. Yes!

The coding behind the pages allows the page to "shrink to fit", so it'll fit nicely on all mobile devices, each of which have different screen sizes.

joecarson1

Hello all, my first post. Great info being shared here. Plenty of business opportunity for all of us I think. I am a newbie and after reading this whole thread I have questions.

You are going to have to access the main website to add the re-direct script. I get that.

1. If the owner of the business has the webmaster info, how do you get the webmaster to allow you access, without him or her realizing what your are going to do and block you out while they try to contact business owner and steal away the mobile conversion job?

2. If the owner does not know how to contact the webmaster, then what?

MrSDPromo

Mobile Websites in my area are rocking too!

Gatortate

Been reading this thread for 3 days now, have actually copy/pasted 17 pages worth of great stuff. Thank you all WF members.

My questions I know I have not seen:

1. I know I need a website to promote my business but am no website builder and dont want to really learn. Mobile websites I can do, I think just on what I have read here. Any suggestions on getting one built in particular for this business.
2. Is it neccesary for me to have a real business name? In other words, register or whatever a biz name with my city or state? Would be a simple sole proprietor biz I assume.

Hope my questions make sense.

P.S. Got Wills WSO 3 days ago but wanted to finish this thread first. 33 pages....WOW!

SocialPros

thanks for sharing

zoro

Not sure if this has already been shared.
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perfectlovehere

Good idea and can easily be done with free scripts online or outsourcing. Elance and get-a-freelancer could help you with that.

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pfreelancer

Cold calling is not for me:-). I do email marketing and sending pre-recorded voice mail after hours.

TroyZ

Have been looking online and have found some good info about mobile stats that you can print out and show potential clients. Also this site has some good info about mobile in a whole. Check it out here

www dot howtogomo dot com/en/#reasons-mobile-matters

(sorry still not able to post links yet).

Enjoy

Troy

dms321

Hi everybody.
I have been on this forum for a while now, read posts, been busy with a lot of things, but have not posted a lot. Here is my experience with mobile sites business. I have been using different templates and plugins for both html and wordpress sites. When you get a client then everything is fine. Either it is a one time job or a contract. But what I found to be difficult, not surprisingly, is how to get a client. I am not good about cold calling so I have used emails. But email conversion rates are low. So eventually I found a compromise between cold calls, emails and referrals. Mobile site business also gave me different opportunities in other areas. Like SEO and making new sites or converting static sites to blogs. Also - different consulting services. Offline is probably not the largest portion of what I do, but significant. And it all started with mobile sites business.

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abubakar89

I should have started this earlier

Whenever I read few posts here I learn something new, thats awesome

jamyfort

Some people may ask, why do this? In some cases, automatic detection can mess up your formatting and layout design and in extreme cases, automatic detection of bad things.

Jay Moreno

its not the automatic detection that messes up the formatting - its the auto-reformatting that can screw it up, particularly so if the original content was badly coded in the first place.

drdeeweb

Thanks for the responses. I initially made about about 50 calls. Not sure that is a big enough sample for testing. I used to make 75-100 a day as a recruiter.

I mocked up a mobile site and gave to my accountant. She works with a lot of business owners and attorneys, got me out of a big tax jam :-) and she is a big networker!

I also notice that the QR code seems to be a new toy to people ( I don't get it. I fee like I work at the grocery store everytime I scan something, but hey if it works, ok fine).

I did have some success last week though. A friend of a friend had a website that needed updating so I did a mockup of a website redesign and included a mobile mockup with QR codes to each site. Result: Sold as a package! They even want content too. So it turned into a bigger deal than expected.

This week I am going to mix phone, direct mail and get in people's faces :-)
Thanks again for the encouragement and tips.

Rhino08

This 'sub forum' is great

WillR

Nice work. Nothing beats getting in people's faces. Face to face selling is very powerful and it is something that CAN learnt. A lot of people seem to think it's something you need to be born with. Although some natural ability does help, the key to selling is confidence. If you have confidence in the product you are trying to sell this confidence will ooze out in your meeting and your client will pick up on it. Get to know the product you are selling very well. You have no hope of selling something to a client if you haven't first sold yourself on the idea.

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drdeeweb

One thing is for sure. If you have spent any time on this forum and any money on the Mobile WSOs you know a TON more than the biz owners you will speak with.
Your confidence will start to rise as you realize this in speaking with them. You really can start to see your self as the expert pretty quickly.

Ideology

Hi Scotth, thanks for sharing. I don't know anything about SEO. Can you recommend how I should learn about SEO in order to upsell it?

Many Thanks for your story.

Lmr1

Thanks Scott!.....for all of this great help and info..thanks to Will and Quentin as well and all others who reached out their hands to fellow warriors by telling their experiences, sharing their knowledge and just spreading the fact that we need to take this to the masses and get these businesses mobile sites and show them the value that we already know exists....thanks to everyone that offered info...keep it going with any updates of your success!!!
How ya'll doing with sales?
Wish you ALL the best!!! :-)

Bayo

Great thread and I agree that mobile business website design is a viable service.

In 2011 this was one of the services, along with QR codes marketing that I focused on for professional service businesses and businesses that offered services.

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