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Unread 13th Jan 2012, 07:09 AM   #1601
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Originally Posted by Scott Mosteller View Post

Hello,

I am building mobile sites for local businesses. They already have thier own header grpahic and would like to use it on the mobile site.

Does anyone know of a good tool that resizes the graphic to fit a droid, iphone, or blackberry. I also need to know the smallest width of the phones as well.

Please help. I need this tool now.

Thanks for the help.

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Hi Scott. Albert here.
I've been using PIXresizer get it at:
bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm it's both great to use and free as well...
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@scotth thanks for sharing your intro... very concise....you probably get very good response rate from buyers... Ya know what they say...buyers buy. As always some will, some wont, so what, NEXT
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yes ! i Agree with you The Mobile Web site deign is big business but it depends on you how does you handle your Mobile web business !
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Originally Posted by scotth View Post

My pitch to the biz owner is...

"Hi my name is Scott I am a local business owner that helps businesses get new clients, I noticed you do not have a mobile ready site, you could be missing out new business...I like to meet with you for 10 mins and show you a one page mock-up of your site on a mobile phone and how this can bring you new business.

They will ask me a couple of questions..I usually get the appointment...there are business owners that blow me off..but thats part of cold calling.
That's helpful. Figuring out what to say is one of the hard parts when just getting started with this.
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Alright this might be a stupid question but I here goes:

When you create this mobile website is it a totally different website in addition to their normal website that a smartphone user will have to find or when the smartphone user visits their normal website are they somehow automatically redirected to the mobile version because the site recognizes that it is being looked at by the smartphone?

I've seen people selling a few wso's on selling mobile sites and it seems like they are suggesting that you build a new mobile website on a .mobi domain and then somehow the visitors has to find that website if they are on a smartphone.

Any input on getting this cleared up would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by John W.G. View Post

Alright this might be a stupid question but I here goes:

When you create this mobile website is it a totally different website in addition to their normal website that a smartphone user will have to find or when the smartphone user visits their normal website are they somehow automatically redirected to the mobile version because the site recognizes that it is being looked at by the smartphone?

I've seen people selling a few wso's on selling mobile sites and it seems like they are suggesting that you build a new mobile website on a .mobi domain and then somehow the visitors has to find that website if they are on a smartphone.

Any input on getting this cleared up would be awesome.
Hi John,

Sorry I have not looked at this thread in awhile..Yes its a sub-domain I always name my sub-domains for my mobile sites m.yourwebsite.com I put a redirect script in the html on the main domain...so when people go the original domain on a smart phone it will re-direct to the mobile design. I never have used a .mobie.

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Hi,
I have with a lot of interest read the threat and appreciate the information that was contributed. On the other side, I am kind of unsure whether there is such a huge opportunity for mobile web design or marketing like so many people say here. I am from Australia and a keyword search for 'mobile web design' revealed a mere 320 searches per month! Keywords such as 'mobile marketing' and 'mobile advertising' are around 250 searches per month country wide!! So, I wonder if this is really such a golden opportunity to tap into. Mobile design has been around since the early 2000, but it seems it never really kicked off like SEM or SEO. Even right now, video marketing is getting huge and it only started 4-5 years ago. Is this because of the lack of ROI for mobile? Can somebody explain or am I mistaken?

Thanks.

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Hello Scott, once you show the mock up site to a prospect, How would you answer this question? "Once I get my mobile site up and running, how are people going to find it?"
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do you target people who already have a site? how do you make sure they don't go with their current webmaster?

no question is a dumb question
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one more question while i'm at it - do you guys suggest doing door to door when it comes to selling mobile web sites?

thx

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Hello All,
As a new member just wanted to quickly say what a wonderful tool for knowledge this forum is. I have been reading if for a couple of days now and doing my own research weighing up the pros and cons of various softwares available.
Whilst I am not the most proficient in the tech department I do understand what you all are talking about.

I say this because as a onetime Marketing Manager of large Australian company that recently went in liquidation I would like to branch out and have a go at running a mobile website business. Tired of working for the man!

Basically like a lot of you my view is to create volume by targeting the low hanging fruit SMEs.

I would like the ability to incorporate m-commerce functionality at some point but initially it’s not my priority.

I’m more interested in incorporating SMS marketing because to me this truly embraces a way to drive sales to your customers by being creative. QR codes are neither here nor there for me. I don’t use them in any other way apart from presenting one as e-ticket boarding pass on a Qantas flight. I sure don’t use them to look up products or services and don’t know anyone else that does either.
A product that really appealed to me was Lime cellular. Problem is they don’t support any carriers in Australia. Sebastian from sales said if I wanted to use their platform I would have to provide the gateway.
My question is:
How hard would this be?
Would it be easier to use WillR or Quintons WSO and find a white label SMS service in Australia?
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Originally Posted by SEOArmada View Post

Hi,
I have with a lot of interest read the threat and appreciate the information that was contributed. On the other side, I am kind of unsure whether there is such a huge opportunity for mobile web design or marketing like so many people say here. I am from Australia and a keyword search for 'mobile web design' revealed a mere 320 searches per month! Keywords such as 'mobile marketing' and 'mobile advertising' are around 250 searches per month country wide!! So, I wonder if this is really such a golden opportunity to tap into. Mobile design has been around since the early 2000, but it seems it never really kicked off like SEM or SEO. Even right now, video marketing is getting huge and it only started 4-5 years ago. Is this because of the lack of ROI for mobile? Can somebody explain or am I mistaken?

Thanks.

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Its true most people don't know what mobile websites are. Most likely most of those searches were done by people like me researching who is out there in the market.

However we must remember the 1st iphone was only released in late june 2007. It's only really since then that it has changed the way most of us use our phone.

We are only really at the forefront of the mobile web revolution. I'm sure marketing text books are probably only now adding "mobile web" chapters to there text books.

I'd like to think it will only benefit those of us who that have set up in this early phase.
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Originally Posted by SEOArmada View Post

Hi,
I have with a lot of interest read the threat and appreciate the information that was contributed. On the other side, I am kind of unsure whether there is such a huge opportunity for mobile web design or marketing like so many people say here. I am from Australia and a keyword search for 'mobile web design' revealed a mere 320 searches per month! Keywords such as 'mobile marketing' and 'mobile advertising' are around 250 searches per month country wide!! So, I wonder if this is really such a golden opportunity to tap into. Mobile design has been around since the early 2000, but it seems it never really kicked off like SEM or SEO. Even right now, video marketing is getting huge and it only started 4-5 years ago. Is this because of the lack of ROI for mobile? Can somebody explain or am I mistaken?

Thanks.



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Hi Chris,

Mobile Website Design is a growing market that will not slow down. I live here in San Francisco been selling mobile websites for over 1 1/2 years and the sales are plenty. It is a Golden Opportunity but if you find reasons its not then you will not see success. It takes work and action but once you take action you will understand. you can still make a good living just selling website design and thats been going on since the late 90's and there is still plenty of opportunity...mobile website design is at the very beginning and its even bigger.

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95% of the people I would approach offering to create a mobile website would not know how to upload the files to their host.

How do I go about this?
Offer to do it for them by taking in there passwords etc, I don't think any of them would keep track of the often long and gruelling passwords that hosts require nor would many of them trust someone enough to just give passwords to.
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Mobile industry has great potential to tap into, especially in retail and gaming.

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Yes Mobile is the one best to market..
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Thanks for all your insight Scott.
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Hey Scott you're right in my backyard! how's business going?

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I found this post a few weeks ago and have been trying out offering mobile websites to clients. It's an easier sell than SEO etc obviously. I suppose the only problem is that I'm probably not charging enough, so I have to bring in a lot of volume
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I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread, lots of great information and very inspiring. Thanks for starting it Scott.
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Hi all,

I've read this entire thread over the last few days.

Just wanted to say thanks to ScottH, Quentin, Will, Jay, and everyone else that contributed.

This thread, I'm convinced, along with some action and dedication, could create millionaires.

Thanks to all for sharing.

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Originally Posted by scotth View Post

You can go to post #12 above and there you will see how I am charging..still experimenting..If they want me to upload it to their server than I charge $500 for the design and file transfer...have not have to do that yet.
@ScottH - Sorry if I'm asking something that's already been answered - there's so many posts!
I just wondered as you said you hadn't yet had to use existing hosting with your clients - did they already have websites then or not? I wonder because if they did, is it possible for you to host their mobile site on an existing domain/subdomain or can you tell us what the process is there?

Well done by the way on smashing it on mobile sites! I'm hoping to get in on the action in my area!
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Is mobile pricing changing?

I'm seeing more co's charging just $99 - $199 for a 5 page mobile website.

I was hoping to charge more like $399 - $799

Need to make a decent profit if it's going to be just a one time payment. Monthly would be better, but from reading this thread it seems not many here are in favour of charging mothly.

Where do you see pricing going?
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Is mobile pricing changing?

I'm seeing more co's charging just $99 - $199 for a 5 page mobile website.

I was hoping to charge more like $399 - $799

Need to make a decent profit if it's going to be just a one time payment. Monthly would be better, but from reading this thread it seems not many here are in favour of charging mothly.

Where do you see pricing going?
Hi zoro,

I'm want the residuals.

I use .mobi domains hosted by me, which includes maintenance, and mobile sitemap submission to Webmaster Tools, so I am alerted of any errors.

If you can offer more than just hosting for their monthly fee, you can justify it.

Business is business. I want to be in control of all usernames and passwords, without some webmaster changing it and not letting me know, etc. I don't work that way.

If I want to go in and tweak something to update it, or make it better, that's what they pay for. That's how I work.

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Hi zoro,

I'm want the residuals.

I use .mobi domains hosted by me, which includes maintenance, and mobile sitemap submission to Webmaster Tools, so I am alerted of any errors.

If you can offer more than just hosting for their monthly fee, you can justify it.

Business is business. I want to be in control of all usernames and passwords, without some webmaster changing it and not letting me know, etc. I don't work that way.

If I want to go in and tweak something to update it, or make it better, that's what they pay for. That's how I work.
Scotty, yeah bud I'm with you. I prefer to get the residuals as well but there is several comments on this thread that think it's a big ask?

So what is your pricing model ... care to share?
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Scotty, yeah bud I'm with you. I prefer to get the residuals as well but there is several comments on this thread that think it's a big ask?

So what is your pricing model ... care to share?
Hi Zoro,

I haven't a found a pricing scale/model that I'm sticking too, yet. But essentially, I build a bespoke quote based on all the modules that I believe their business is suited to - SMS, maintenance, hosting, email marketing, loyalty programme, video marketing packs, etc.

Invariably this is going to be over their budget, but as I've shown them the working, personalised mock-up with all of this stuff working on it, they are juiced-up, and all I have to do is downsell/strip away modules until we come to a monthly residual fee that they can afford.

The bare minimum residual fee I would charge is for the hosting (which includes daily security backups), maintenance (any ongoing updates needed, added features I think will benefit them, monitoring of the mobile sitemap through Webmaster Tools), and stats tracking (via Google analytics).

So as you can see, it's not just hosting I'm offering residually. And my out-the-door downsell would be just the hosting. If they still wanted the site but not hosting I would sell them just the site with no residuals, but it would have to be worth my while.

All of this is just theory at the moment, as I haven't come across all scenarios yet.

Hope that helps.

But my philosophy is to show them a working mock-up dripping with every conceivable functionality that fits their market/business, get them in a frenzy, and then strip down from there until we hit their budget.

For me at least, it's easier to downsell once they've seen everything, rather than try to upsell. And it's easier to upsell going forward if they've seen everything working that fits their business, as they will be lying in bed thinking, "But I really want that Meet The Team' video page he showed me - it looked really cool".

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Really, Mobile site is big market this day.
If you get me some mobile site link.
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Originally Posted by scotth View Post

Hi Chris,

Mobile Website Design is a growing market that will not slow down. I live here in San Francisco been selling mobile websites for over 1 1/2 years and the sales are plenty. It is a Golden Opportunity but if you find reasons its not then you will not see success. It takes work and action but once you take action you will understand. you can still make a good living just selling website design and thats been going on since the late 90's and there is still plenty of opportunity...mobile website design is at the very beginning and its even bigger.
What software do you use scott?
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Hey Quentin,

Thanks for the post. I am just getting into mobile and it is both huge and relatively easy.
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Is anybody was able to rank mobile site high in search engines??? How you can determined how successful is your site?
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That's true, Scotth. I remember myself working for a website development agency. Customers are really pursuing the goals to make their websites mobile.

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I personally prefer still going after normal web design clients. Because you could then upsell them later on seo..then mobile site...then ppc..etc. And plus they'll be a lifetime customer of yours if treated right. And I don't know if you all realize this, but you could then sell them other services.

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Anyone have the link to Quentin's WSO?

Can't seem to find it. Thanks!
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Mobile websites for offline clients are about to become WAY more important with some recent changes to Google Adwords.

With the roll-out of "Enhanced Campaigns," Adwords advertisers will no longer be able to opt-out of running traffic to mobile devices. Being required to send traffic to mobile devices is going to KILL their profitability if they don't have mobile versions of their websites.

That's a pretty easy sales pitch to any business owner running Adwords that hasn't got on the mobile bandwagon yet.
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Originally Posted by Mike R View Post

Mobile websites for offline clients are about to become WAY more important with some recent changes to Google Adwords.

With the roll-out of "Enhanced Campaigns," Adwords advertisers will no longer be able to opt-out of running traffic to mobile devices. Being required to send traffic to mobile devices is going to KILL their profitability if they don't have mobile versions of their websites.

That's a pretty easy sales pitch to any business owner running Adwords that hasn't got on the mobile bandwagon yet.
Didn't realise that - yep that's huge.

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I personally prefer still going after normal web design clients. Because you could then upsell them later on seo..then mobile site...then ppc..etc. And plus they'll be a lifetime customer of yours if treated right. And I don't know if you all realize this, but you could then sell them other services.
Abbas, do you find it easier going after website clients? And do you target those without a website, or those with a bad website?

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