WillR

You also want to make sure you do not make the big mistake so many people make with mobile redirection. If someone is on your mobile website, say on your contact page, and they then decide they want to view your full website, most people will send them back to the index page of the full website. You should instead send them to that same page on your full website.

The same goes when someone is on your main website and wants to view your mobile website. They shouldn't just be redirected to the index page of your mobile site. They should be taken to the mobile version of that same page.

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Nail Yener

Will, that's a really important point for some certain types of websites but I cannot think of a solution for that at the moment. I mean, redirecting each full page to its mobile version (if it exists) and vice versa is something I cannot imagine how to solve at this time.

Do you actually have such a solution or is it just a recommendation?

sb

Killer. Thank you!

sb

Yep, not being a programmer makes this a no brainier for only $13 per month.

kmalikis

Hey Scott, My name is Kam, i'm new to the Warrior Forum, i'm been exploring and reading and trying to absorb as much as i can.

Forum, i need your help.. i'm a position where i NEED to make $3000/month (minimum)... i'll spare you the details as to why.

I'm interested in providing Local Business Online marketing and do see huge potential in one of the services i could provide (mobile websites for SMB's).

I have so many questions on the biggest bang for my buck! and what would you do if you were up against a brick wall and needed get some income coming in fast!!!

There are some incredible people in this forum...with experience and skills that are impressive. I need some very to the point direction. I read these WSO's and one after the other...sounds like "that's the one"... then another one comes out and then another.....arrrrggggg!!

I have decent business sense and have been somewhat successful in the past...i'm just spinning my wheels and seemed bog down by the pressure i'm experiencing at the moment.

Some questions about the opportunity to sell the mobile website opportunity:

- I don't want to sell just a 1 time transaction product/service... with this mobile website...are you folks selling hosting? how can you sell hosting when a mobile website could be hosted for free on the cx existing website domain?? is this correct?

- What is the primary advantage of Quentins software over the many free options out there to convert a website to a mobile version?

- From what i'm reading... is that alot of these WP plugins only work with Word press blogs/websites. What do you do for customers that have a basic html webiste??? how do you convert a normal website to a mobile version?

- I've heard of WPTouch PRO and looks pretty cool! what are the main pro's and cons of Quentins software and some other common options to be able to quickly convert or create a standard html site to a mobile version

There seem to be many generous people on this forum, i certainly would appreciate some words of wisdom.


Respectfully,

Kam

scotth

Hi Kam,

You for sure can get information overload. About buying WSO's there are some real good WSO's out there..but you want to be carful your allowing yourself to be tossed from one to the other. Stop take one method and take action with it.

IMHO fastest way to make money is flat out cold call businesses..there is a phone script in this thread that I use..if you commit to call 4 times week 50 businesses each day pitching mobile web site design you will get business and start making money..once you have a few clients the referrals will start coming.

For me mobile design opens the door so I can offer my upsells that have residuals built into them.

Quentins script is my pick b/c its easy to customize the sites you have lots of flexibility and its easy to use. I have not tried any of the other ways to design mobile sites so only can say I am happy with Q scrtipt.

Take action stop buying WSO until your making money off a method. Stick to it dont give up b/c success is right in front of you Just Go Get It!

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blogwaala

Hello WillR,

You have been of great help to all of us. I have not even started building a mobi site yet but still feel as if i know what exactly i have to do.
Can you please make a separate tutorial type thread for Mobi sites. I am sure lot of people will appreciate it.

Thanks

redlegrich

I am a bit late to this discussion I think but I second everyone's view that there is lots of opportunity here. I have noticed in Seattle that event he mobile marketing providers don't even have mobile optimized sites. Sad, but true!

We just purchase the WP plugin from mobilelps, we'll see how it works out.

allegrity

All you have to do is put the URL as the link in the mobile site to the page you want to link to. A different URL for every page to match the mobile page. Easy.

Sounds weird so let me put it like this:

Lets say you have a Visit Main Website link at the bottom of each of your pages on your mobile site.

Instead of making each Visit Main Website link on each page point to www.theirbusiness.com
make everyone one of them unique and point them to their corresponding pages.

For example:

The Visit Main Website link on the mobile site Contact page will lead to the Contact page on the main website - www.theirbusiness.com/contact.html

The Visit Main Website link on the mobile site Products page will lead to the Products page on the main website - www.theirbusiness.com/products.html

bankcardguru

Great stuff Scott!

beatrice88

hello i'm new here.nice to meet you.i would like to begin a buisness with mobile phones.so i'm open to advices

Nice to meet you

scotth

Read the thread...there is pure valuable content on this thread for mobile marketing..I would go to the beginning and start reading and you will be educated on how to make money offering mobile web design to your local market.

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Max86

Hey Scott great info throughout this thread. How long did it take you to
make your first sale after you bought Quinten's mobile website program.

Max86

Quentin how do you market to small businesses?

Art

Luke Bishop

Why don't you buy his WSO and find out?

RockinBosslady

Scott and Quentin: I could just kiss you both!!! Scott, thanks for posting this thread. I'm 99.9% sure I can do this, especially since I have some great contacts in my local business community!

And Quentin, you ROCK! I know basic HTML and use Dreamweaver. Your tutorials are amazing and even a noob like me can follow them.
I had an idea to create apps for the community, but this is so much easier and less expensive.

I'm only into the design part, but I have two questions-
1. Do I have to purchase a separate domain for the yourcompany.mobi site?

2. If using a separate domain, what hosts do you recommend?

Thank you both for your help and inspiration!

Jay Moreno

i am just catching up on this thread from when i last posted - wow it moves fast

@willr to say i miss the point and concept of mobile websites is ridiculous i have been developing, deploying, and marketing mobile sites not to mention being an advocate of mobile platforms possibly longer than anyone on this forum - each to their own.

@sb if you need help with the optional redirect javascript please feel free to pm i can give you some pointers - i am not in position right now to provide you with as much support as i would like right now as my wife and i are expecting a new addition to the family a week Monday - and as you can imagine things are a little hectic right now!

Quentin

Marketing is all about confidence and knowing your product and customer.

I usually do my my marketing in segments so at the moment I am concentrating on event planners as they have a constant stream of clients and new mobile websites.

Once you are confident in making your mobile websites then the next step is to simply get out into the marketplace and find out what people want.

My presentations are short and to the point as business owners are not interested in the hows and whys. Just gather some stats from this discussion and you should have more than enough to approach any business.

There is a fair bit of technical stuff in here also but I do very little of it. I dont redirect back to main website unless customer requests it and by using a redirection service there is no problems.

A1. Usually we would add a subdomain named simply m.yourdomain and then add the files in here.


Alternatively you could also just create a folder called mobi or mobile however if you are duplicating a site then you have issues with duplicate content.

A2. As most of our mobile websites are very basic they can be loaded on pretty well any host. Pm me and I can advise further.

Quentin

WillR

I agree with this. We tend to forget how much we know about all this stuff compared to that of a normal business owner. The thought probably wouldn't even cross their mind - so don't bring it up!

Besides, the sites I am doing for local businesses, there really is no need for anyone to view their main website as there is nothing of importance on there that is not also included on the mobile site. I could maybe see a need for larger ecommerce, real estate, corporate sites however the businesses I am targeting are just small local service providers.

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Nail Yener

I guess an algorithm could be created for this so that you will not have to manually add a different URL to each page. Thanks for the idea.

ianspencer

The niche within offline marketing is Mobile Web Design

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Luke Bishop

How exciting, congrats a week monday!

Jay Moreno

Am really enjoying this thread - just curious here's a couple of questions for everyone

1) are you guys designing specifically for "all types of phones" both feature phones and smartphones or are are your designs intended for "smartphones" only?

- If you support all types of phones do you think you will continue to do so? Despite more and more people switching to smartphones?

2) Are you guys using any of the following whilst building your sites:

a) mobi.ready
b) Keynote MITE
c) MobiOne
d) WURFL
e) Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal (plugins)
f) iwebkit, jtouch, iui, sencha - Warrior Quentin's Script (heard good things!)
g) goMobi, MobisiteGalore, other online tools
h) click to call
i) click to email/sms
j) Geo-Detection

3) What size of sites are you doing?

Quentin

ukescuba our system covers all phones because it is a stretch and fit system similar to facebook and google.

We build for smartphones however they will fit any phone.

Quentin

bombasdeagua

But do you design apps?

Bombas de Agua

Jay Moreno

no we just do mobile web apps - you can always package it with phonegap or similar, we haven't need to though...

chrise

Mega thread for MEGA business, thank you guys, Quentin(purchased), Scot & Will, this must be the way to move forward today in 2011..

sb

Right on. CONGRATULATIONS!!! And thank you for your offer. I appreciate it.

scotth

Mobile web design to Full Service SMS Text Messaging to local businesses is a businesses best ROI out there IMHO..Big money in text messaging its like telephone per minute charge...instead by the text...if you do the numbers they are crazy...huge money.

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TWalker

I saw some of my sites the other night on someone elses phone which was a very minimilist web browser.

Wow. Shock. Just the bare bones links. Some of the text didn't even show and the site was formatted strangely. Couldn't really even tell if the site had forwarded to the mobile site or just grabbed bits of the full site.

This was a very basic phone though. A Straight Talk "web enabled" phone.

I guess I agree with building for smartphones but if the owner of the site has one of these "web enabled" non-smart phones.

What would you tell him Quentin? Just askin because I value your opinion.

rugman

I was going to start a new post on this but figured I would put it here. Realtors - I thought they would be a great place to sell sites to. I did some research and there are some places on the web that target realtors and give them sites REALLY cheap. Like $47 set up and 10 bucks a month. Whats with that?

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starsi

Do you use skypeÉ

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WillR

I have said it before, I think with the amount of local businesses out there I don't even bother with real estate agents. From my experience they are very image conscious, picky, and will often want intricate sites that display all their current listings, etc. IMO there are much easier fish to fry.

What happens if the business owner does not have a PC? Does that then mean they should not have a website? Hell no. We are not building the business to suit the owner, we are building it to suit the customers. There is no point building technology to suit the past. If they are going to invest money then you want to create a site that will best suit all the smart phone devices of the future.

Chances are anyone with those old sort of phones are not very concerned about surfing the Internet on their phone and probably rarely do. A lot of them probably don't even have data plans. Those people we are targeting with a mobile site are the tech savy people who frequently use the Internet on their phones. These are the people who more often than not have some type of smart phone device.

Your job is to simply show them what it will look like on a smart phone and show them the numbers and stats that back up the fact that in a year or so the majority of phones people are using are going to be smart phones.

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TWalker

Yes agreed. Smart Phones with proper display will only increase.

But if he did have a PC and it displayed horribly I would explain to him he needed to update his browser, plug ins etc.

Same thing with the phone. The sites are built for customers with updated smart phones as those are the ones who most frequently do web searches.

Jay Moreno

i agree with willr - if people are currently using the mobile web regularly with a feature phone, the chances are they are going to upgrade their phone the next opportunity they can, with the iPhone 3GS priced at $50 it makes smartphones a lot more accessible to a lot more people. Over the next 18 months the smartphone landscape is going to increase tremendously, figures show of the past 18 months the rapid uptake of them.

I have been waiting for this mobile revolution for what feels like an eternity! lol

Personally i am doing more and more sites specifically for smartphones (ios, droid, rim) - especially since it doesnt take much effort to make them into mobile web apps.

Quentin

I think Mr T your question has been answered.

Always build for the majority and it gives your current customer with the crappy phone a great opportunity to grab a nice new one.

In fact I would say 1 in 10 of our customers have ordered a mobile site to justify getting a smart phone.

Just saying

Quentin

YellowGreenMedia

This is a great threat with a lot of info
Thanks people i have some idea's of my one to get clients and sell them mobile sites.

scarab

What a great thread, and I purchased Quentin's product and it lots of value in it. If I could thank anyone on this thread I would, but I want to thank every single poster on this thread. I am really glad that everyone is getting along, it had me worried for a moment.

Kudos to ScottH, Quentin, and WillR. I am going to build my first four Mobile sites (mine) today and start prospecting for clients tomorrow.

The most motivating thread I have seen anywhere.
Thanks to all who contributed.

scotth

Thats Awesome..taking action from the info here will get you on the track of making a good income..if you run into questions dont hesitate to find it here if not post it.

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scarab

ScottH, you're the Man to start this. I have thought about and toyed with the idea for several months but the way you explained it was great. I think what turned the light on for me was it was not information overload. An idea that works, easy to implement, start this without a list.. in other words there was nothing to stop a person from ACTION.
Quentin and WillR were great motivators as well.

joetann

What is special about these so called mobile design scripts?

Are they just html/css templates??

What aspects would one need to take note of when making their own mobile template?

Quentin

Hi Joe

They are just a simple way to design a mobile website that will work on the majority of phones.

Yes basic html.

The things to take note of is the ability to make things fit no matter what screen size and to achieve this we need to be able to manipulate graphics and content.

There are two ways to do this.

You can build your websites to individual phones and use agents to manipulate the content or use a simply shrink and fit system like many of us here are doing.

Its not a perfect system but it works.

Quentin

scarab

Has anyone had any luck in putting amazon ad's on the mobiles using this script?
I have a small aStore and would like to show the ad's on my product page. I used an <iframe> and I know from reading that I shouldn't do this on a mobile but that was the only I could get it to show. When it comes up on an iPhone it really messes with my text and the simple menuing system.
If anyone know what the magic code is please post it.

Thanks

Nail Yener

You really don't need to use iframes to link to Amazon products. Simple HTML will work. You can use image or text links.

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scarab

Nail, thanks I will give that a try.

rcjcal09

Bam! And 3.5 hours later, done reading every word of this fantastic thread.

Gentlemen and ladies, the first thing I have to say is, "Wow!" Thank you all for your hard work and advice to the community. I've been looking for a new market to target as a serial entrepreneur and you've all sold me on mobile marketing.

I'm not in any ways an expert in sales and/or web design, but I have a great background in both. I'll continue to stay engaged and connected to this forum. It's the least I could do for the wealth of knowledge you've shared with me.

I wish you all the best in your endeavors. Take action and believe!

Ryan

YseUp

Hey guys,

Is anyone trying this strategy in the UK?

The best responses I've had are along the lines of:

"Thanks for letting us know, we'll get our web-designer to make a mobile site"

I've been targeting restaurants (not chains), hair salons, private dentists and such businesses.

allegrity

Most of the time, this is the same response I get as well. I have also been targeting local restaurants, hair salons and spas. I will tell them there is something wrong with their website and it is hard to see on a mobile phone and they will say the same thing as quoted above. I am both emailing and calling and this is the response I always get. Ideas?

SirThomas

If I had no idea about mobile optimized sites, I would've given you the same answer. They probably think "there is something wrong" with their sites and will contact their webmaster to fix it! :-)

Do you tell them that they can not just fix it, it has to be re-build for mobile viewing?

Thomas

scotth

I live here in the States but I have gotten that response myself. I just say to myself next...You just have to keep mining for gold..there is plenty for everyone even in the UK it does not matter...I make 20 -30 calls a day I get 2 + appointments every day...and with businesses that have a web designers..so like I said there is plenty of businesses that need you!

ScottH

Based in Costa Rica Living my life on my terms a expat lifestyle and traveling the world at will. Time Freedom is True Freedom!