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Do you mind sharing how you created the rounded tables?
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Do you mind sharing how you created the rounded tables?
Created 4 round corners in photoshop of the same color as the table and the background color the same as the website background color. Used this image corners in the 4 corners of the table.

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Why bother, css3 your friend
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I sent you a PM about your "Fighting Fit" design. Did you use Quentin's script for this?
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I had a question here. Isn't it just easier to build the mobile site using templates, upload it to the client's site, insert a redirect code on the client's server so when people view on mobile devices it automatically detects it and goes to the mobile site (otherwise it brings up their regular website) and you collect your fee (i.e. $300-$500)?

But I keep reading of folks talking about mobile domains and monthly fees for doing mobile websites. So if I understand it correctly then what others are doing is making the mobile site as separate domain (.mobi extension) that you host (and charge a monthly fee for that) while the regular site still is hosted by the client. So then do you guys have the redirect code still there, but it redirect to the mobile site url/domain now that you are hosting if someone does the search on a mobile device?

Is my understanding correct? Is that the reason folks are talking about charging monthly hosting fees and setting up mobile domains for clients?

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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I had a question here. Why are people doing subdomains, .mobi sites and trying to host mobile sites? Isn't it just easier to build the mobile site using templates, upload it to the client's site, and then insert a redirect code on the client's server so when people view on mobile devices it automatically goes to the mobile site, otherwise it brings up their regular website.

Wouldn't that be easier or am I missing something here?
not real sure what you are saying. You need to put the mobile site somewhere...if its a subdomain it goes on the main domain as a sub like .m if its .mobi then your hosting it...you still need to put a redirect code in the main clients website so when people come across the main domain on a mobile phone their redirected to the mobile site.

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Rounded corner tables tutorial.

The Trick to Rounded Corner Tables » SitePoint

Here is one just using CSS

Round corners in pure css for liquid design and transparent scrolling - tutorial and stylesheet

The thing to check is that your mobile handles them.

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not real sure what you are saying. You need to put the mobile site somewhere...if its a subdomain it goes on the main domain as a sub like .m if its .mobi then your hosting it...you still need to put a redirect code in the main clients website so when people come across the main domain on a mobile phone their redirected to the mobile site.
What I mean is that what I have read so far is just making the mobile site and then uploading the folder on the client's site and putting the redirect code on client's website. I don't get why then we need a subdomain or a separate .mobi domain to upload the mobile files when we just upload them to the clients site. Then the redirect code will only show the index.html file of the mobile folder whenever it detects a mobile user otherwise the regular index.html. Is that correct?

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Why bother, css3 your friend
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Created 4 round corners in photoshop of the same color as the table and the background color the same as the website background color. Used this image corners in the 4 corners of the table.
Yes, if you want to use rounded corners you will need to use images to achieve this. Rounded corners can be achieved using CSS however they will not work on every phone. I know my Blackberry doesn't recognize the rounded corners and will just display them as ordinary corners. It's not a huge deal but if you want the rounded corners to display on every device the only way to achieve that is with images.

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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

What I mean is that what I have read so far is just making the mobile site and then uploading the folder on the client's site and putting the redirect code on client's website. I don't get why then we need a subdomain or a separate .mobi domain to upload the mobile files when we just upload them to the clients site. Then the redirect code will only show the index.html file of the mobile folder whenever it detects a mobile user otherwise the regular index.html. Is that correct?
You've basically got it right.

Here is what happens. You log onto your clients cPanel and make a subdomain, www.m.domain.com

Why .m? Well, I don't know - but it seems Google likes it, so why not? (m.youtube.com)

This also helps to ensure Google does not class the 'mobile website' as duplicate content, which it may or may not do when you just use an extension like /m on the end of your domain.

So that's why we use .m.domain.com

Further, you then make a mobile website, upload it to www.m.domain.com and then you go into their normal desktop site, put the script in and then every time a mobile goes onto the main site, they are redirected to the mobile site.

So I think your question was why do you put it on a .m.domain.com subdomain? I think the only answer is that it is standard practice/Google approves of it. It doesn't cost a cent to have another subdomain, and nor do you need to buy more hosting... it is all on the same hosting.
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Originally Posted by MagicAce View Post

Here's a mobile website I made in kompozerthat uses table with rounded corners:

SpidaNet Coupons - Home
The problem with the example site you gave above is that the main menu links are far too close together. Mobile sites need to be designed with fat fingers in mind, seriously, otherwise they will be a nightmare for touch screen smart phone users to navigate around. I could see those menu links being a real pain to use for touch screeners.

I would also stay away from using the '&' symbol in your page file names. This is not a good practice and can cause issues with other services you might use. Browsers and other services seem to have a hard time with all those special characters.

I would also try and use as few images as possible. For example I would use regular text not an image for all the footer information -regular text would look better, I think, and increase the load time of those pages.

They are just a few small things I think would make a big difference to the usability of that site.

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I won't bother that much with rounded tables.I won't(don't) use tables at all.Only when really need them.
Just design the mobile websites for the finger,clear images, short details(content) and get Quentin's script to fit any phone. That will set you up.
Anyway, if you can sell mobile websites, why bother designing them?
Why not outsource and focus on the selling part? Won't that be more profitable?
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I had the same experience with my personal site for offline business, which is WordPress based. The WP Touch totally screwed up my site because I used a lot of widgets. I ended up rebuilding it using a script I got through a WSO.




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Hi Moxil

Please understand I really like WPTouch and think it is an excellent system but not in all circumstances.

I am basing it on experience nothing else.

For example here is a regular site of one of our customers.

Vale Display Solutions

If you try and use WP Touch for most of their pages it looks horrible because there are tables, bits of flash etc.

And I certainly don't want to change their site in order for it to look good on a mobile site.

As for traffic etc I think for a business a site you have full control over will always outperform any generator. Again just my experience.

So here is a question for you.

If I want to look at my wptouch site on my pc not my phone what is the url to do this?

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Originally Posted by scotth View Post

I am having success with my mobile design business to my local market. There is so much business in this niche...Thanks to the The Telemarketing Forum I have been able to get some strong momentum in this market by calling local business owners and sharing the value to them why they need and should have a mobile ready website...getting to meet with them has been at least for me easy...and once I walk in after they know the value for them having a mobile website and show them my one page mock-up of their mobile website they are sold.

I just wanted to briefly share a niche that is very easy to start up and getting positive response from business owners.

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Hi,
It`s not wrong to say that mobile business is a vast field in niche to get benefit in terms of revenue. This business provides you chance to earn more and more specially in a local market area. I liked your post and wanna ask your source of information that from which market area did you conduct this research buddy???

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hands down a great niche idea

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Yes, if you want to use rounded corners you will need to use images to achieve this. Rounded corners can be achieved using CSS however they will not work on every phone. I know my Blackberry doesn't recognize the rounded corners and will just display them as ordinary corners. It's not a huge deal but if you want the rounded corners to display on every device the only way to achieve that is with images.
Why doesn't CSS work with Blackberry? Does it work on Windows 7 mobile? It works on iPhone and Android.
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When we design mobile sites are we designing for the operating system or the browser on the phone?
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Why doesn't CSS work with Blackberry? Does it work on Windows 7 mobile? It works on iPhone and Android.
There are different versions of CSS and it is mostly CSS 3 that gives you the rounded edges without using images. CSS 3 is not supported by all mobile web browsers as yet. As I said though, all it means is the edges are square instead of curved on those devices so it isn't the end of the world.

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When we design mobile sites are we designing for the operating system or the browser on the phone?
The phones browser is what you are designing for however you also need to keep in mind the phones operating system/specs as it will limit the types of things you can use on the mobile website - eg: iphones do not support flash.

However you are not just designing for one mobile phone browser. You are designing for every mobile phone browser on the market. There is no point having a mobile site that looks great on one type of phone but doesn't work on another.

The W3C mobile web standards were developed for that very reason. To make mobile websites work with on as many different mobile devices as possible. So if you run your mobile site through a mobile website validator (http://validator.w3.org/mobile/) and don't get a great score it means your site is less likely to work across a whole range of devices.

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Learning all these terms and lingo is so confusing. Does anyone have a good resource, like a webpage or video that I can learn about the following:

HTML
HTML 5
PHP
CSS
CSS 3
Java Script

Plug-ins
WPTouch
jqtouch

I don't need a comprehensive guide, I just want to know the basics, what they all mean.
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Originally Posted by WillR View Post

The W3C mobile web standards were developed for that very reason. To make mobile websites work with on as many different mobile devices as possible. So if you run your mobile site through a mobile website validator (W3C mobileOK Checker) and don't get a great score it means your site is less likely to work across a whole range of devices.
Will, what is the difference between your template and Quintin's script? Is Quintin's script coded with CSS and your template PHP? I don't even know if what I said makes sense.
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Originally Posted by flyinghammers View Post

Learning all these terms and lingo is so confusing. Does anyone have a good resource, like a webpage or video that I can learn about the following:

HTML
HTML 5
PHP
CSS
CSS 3
Java Script

Plug-ins
WPTouch
jqtouch

I don't need a comprehensive guide, I just want to know the basics, what they all mean.
W3Schools is the first place you need to start with.
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Regarding round corners, I make my buttons through a great site Cool Text: Logo and Graphics Generator . Once you select a button, there are several variations you can make of it and the size can be customized. It's an awesome resource, and it's free!

I realize that having images may not be as good as having tables, but they're small and I just like the looks of buttons as compared to tables.

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Pretty well Flying Hammers

I just use simple html with CSS and Will uses Php with the same.

Wills template definitely validates a lot better than mine simply because we use larger graphics and tables which kills our sites validation however we have had no real problems with customers and clients being able to view our sites on multiple devices.

I guess it comes down to what you want.

Look at some of the biggest and most profitable mobile websites and virtually none validate very well but do make a lot of money.

So you have to decide if your customer wants a visually nice mobile website or a validated one.

Personally I would use both depending on the business you are targeting.

Random of selection to test validation.

Google search 100%
Flickr Mobile 37%
Facebook mobile 80%
Answers Mobile 33%
NY Times Mobile 56%
ESPN Mobile 50%
Suburu mobile 5%
Best Buy mobile 60%

Ours range from 10% to 70% depending on content.

Vale Display which is one of our customers is 50% with a lot of content.

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Experienced in HTML? How experienced?
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Hey Adam, Its very simple especially if you know basic HTML.
I have no experience whatsoever...so what'll that mean for (someone like) me?
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Hey Adam, Its very simple especially if you know basic HTML.
Originally Posted by MagicAce View Post

Here's a mobile website I made in kompozerthat uses table with rounded corners:

SpidaNet Coupons - Home
Hell, I'm liking those handbags! How do I get one!!? LOL!

Grrr! Why isn't my *multi-Quote" working!!?
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Originally Posted by scotth View Post

I am having success with my mobile design business to my local market. There is so much business in this niche...Thanks to the The Telemarketing Forum I have been able to get some strong momentum in this market by calling local business owners and sharing the value to them why they need and should have a mobile ready website...getting to meet with them has been at least for me easy...and once I walk in after they know the value for them having a mobile website and show them my one page mock-up of their mobile website they are sold.

I just wanted to briefly share a niche that is very easy to start up and getting positive response from business owners.

ScottH

THank you for this information. I was looking for a second niche and you just hit the light bulb for me I needed something like this to work with thank you once again.... Keep that energy growing and keep the happiness going

To all you success, Yours Truly Allan http://www.allanholder.com
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I am also pre building and sending out an email before I call which has meant getting some without visiting.

http://speedie.mobi/email/

Here are some sample website we have built.

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=htt...entury21-dural

Simple template

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=http://goo.gl/Ge4j3

A bit more complex

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=http://goo.gl/OgB8e

Another customer

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=http://goo.gl/FfkWw

Some examples showing just the very tip of the iceberg.

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Strange. All I get is an *404 error* message...
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Quentin and Will - it's taken me forever but I've finally really had the chance to dig into both of your WSOs this week and I have to say a big THANKS for both of these excellent courses!

Yes, they each stand pretty well on their own, but I'm glad I purchased both as there are many elements in each WSO that I find helpful and the templates are fantastic in both cases.

I don't vouch for too many things around here, but these two mobile WSOs are definitely in my TOP 5 out of the dozens of WSOs I've purchased over the years - thanks guys!

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Strange. All I get is an *404 error* message...
I found the same thing, probably because these are examples on one of Quentin's sites and the post they are on is nearly four months old.

Here is what worked for me. 1-Click the link in the post; 2-In the address bar, highlight everything before the second instance of "http:" (up to & including "url="), then hit [delete] then[enter] and it will display the site.
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Competition for what? I got the mobile design...i can care less of a web designer hosting their site and me giving him the files to upload...my foots in the door so now time for upsell to SEO services..that is my main goal to get in the door selling mobile web sites...no one at least in my city which is San Francisco where you think there would be competition there is none for mobile...so I am unique to the business owner who gets hundreds of calls for SEO ect..So what I am saying dont let that get in the way of taking action...all the money is in the marketing via the internet for the business owner...not mobile web design its just how I open the door!

Bottom line if you get your clients phone to ring and the door to swing via the internet..the business owner will never let you go ever and pay you handsomely!


You can't say "NEVER." There will be more than a few business owners who will want to talk to their current webmaster or web designer about a mobile site. Be prepared for that objection.
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Yes, bluetooth marketing has been used in the past however it relies on people having bluetooth on their phone and turned on. I think this is rather old technology and not what you should be starting to use now.

I think in terms of real estate agents, as I mentioned earlier a QR code is not the best way to do things as most people driving past a house are not going to want to get out of their car to go and scan a QR code. Firstly because it is inconvenient and secondly because a lot of people want to keep their interest in the house private.

Another thing to keep in mind is that a big percentage of people purchasing and/or selling homes are older couples who do not even understand this type of technology.

You are much better off using a nice short website url that has a mobile and standard website or using text message marketing where people text a word to a number and they are then sent the information they have requested. People are used to these types of things.

As I said earlier, there is no point just using this technology for the sake of using it. You need to sit back and look at what is going to be most effective for the specific industry you are targeting.

I know from experience that most real estate agents, especially the young ones, are very showy people who focus most of their attention on their image. These guys would love to have the latest technology because it helps massage their ego - not because they have actually sat down and figured out it will have a positive impact on their business.

Will, you make a lot of comments that are right on the mark, but as a mortgage professional, your comment here that "a big percentage of people purchasing and/or selling homes are older couples" is simply not true.

Over the past couple years, there have been more 1st time homebuyers than ever before. Having done mortgages for over 10 years, I know the average buyers are NOT older couples. Even in Florida, most buyers are not older couples. My average home buyer is under 40. Very few are older couples. It's nowhere near a big percentage.

For anyone ruling out QR codes for real estate due to the age of the prospect, Will's facts are false.
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Will, you make a lot of comments that are right on the mark, but as a mortgage professional, your comment here that "a big percentage of people purchasing and/or selling homes are older couples" is simply not true.

Over the past couple years, there have been more 1st time homebuyers than ever before. Having done mortgages for over 10 years, I know the average buyers are NOT older couples. Even in Florida, most buyers are not older couples. My average home buyer is under 40. Very few are older couples. It's nowhere near a big percentage.

For anyone ruling out QR codes for real estate due to the age of the prospect, Will's facts are false.
Yes, there may be a larger amount of young first home buyers but what I said was a big percentage of people purchasing and/or selling homes are older people - I didn't say the biggest % of people were older couples.

That is still true. It depends on the location and current state of the economy, yes, but a lot of home buyers are of the generation who are not who would not be into scanning QR codes.

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Yes, there may be a larger amount of young first home buyers but what I said was a big percentage of people purchasing and/or selling homes are older people - I didn't say the biggest % of people were older couples.

That is still true. It depends on the location and current state of the economy, yes, but a lot of home buyers are of the generation who are not who would not be into scanning QR codes.


I have worked in the business for over 10 years Will. Older couples is NOT a "big" group. And certainly not big enough to eliminate a piece of technology because of them. We use a lot of technology in mortgages and real estate. We keep our users in mind. After all, there are some older people who don't even use cell phones. But that doesn't mean WE, as marketers, don't use cell phones at all. Instead, we make sure everybody can access the data somehow - it might be email, phone, pdf, snail mail, QR coding, smartphone, etc. I don't think anyone would use a QR code in isolation. There would always be a backup source.

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Hi Dave,

As I mentioned I haven't sold any of my designs yet But to have an idea, here is a mobile site I am working on as a free offer to a local hotel. It is not published yet, I am working locally, so I can only show its screenshots at the moment.

Note that, if the business already has a logo then I use it modifying a bit. But, there will be no difference in terms of my optimization methodology even if they don't have a logo.

Here is how it looks like on mobile, the logo of that one is 2.90KB:



And here is how it looks like on desktop:



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Do you know how to integrate paypal for mobile friendly?
It must surely already exist a script for this ... no!


Here's the paypal link for Mobile Checkout:

https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?c...nMobileDevices
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This is a site that I use to check "Mobile Friendliness", at least looks pretty impressive if you include some of the images in a report for a potential client, with a third party assessment removing me from the judgement.

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I have worked in the business for over 10 years Will. Older couples is NOT a "big" group. And certainly not big enough to eliminate a piece of technology because of them. We use a lot of technology in mortgages and real estate. We keep our users in mind. After all, there are some older people who don't even use cell phones. But that doesn't mean WE, as marketers, don't use cell phones at all. Instead, we make sure everybody can access the data somehow - it might be email, phone, pdf, snail mail, QR coding, smartphone, etc. I don't think anyone would use a QR code in isolation. There would always be a backup source.
Well as I said, I guess it also depends on where you are working. I have 3 brothers who have been in real estate for 15 + years and this was their concern when they were told about this technology recently.

Note, I am not saying do not use technology I am saying use a better technology. Honestly, who wants to get out of their car and go and scan a signboard when instead they could see a word and text it to a number, from the comfort of their car.

As I also previously mentioned a lot of people don't like to have their interest be known and wouldn't like to be seen poking around the sign board out the front of a house. I just don't think a technology that requires more effort from the end user is the answer. Text messaging is a much better fit and is also a technology that a lot more people have on their phones as opposed to the small percentage who would have a QR code reader.

QR codes are definitely a great 'gimmick' in some industries but I do not think the introduction of them into the real estate market is going to make anything work more efficiently than it already does.

Just my opinion...

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I have a couple questions about hosting....
In the scenario above, would it be best to have a dedicated server to host your clients sites on rather than a shared account that has many other people using the same server? If one of the other accounts on that shared server gets hacked and infected, it can spread to the other accounts including your clients sites. Does that sound accurate?

I had about 20 blogs on shared hosting and last year there was a virus on the server & it screwed up 15 of my blogs. What a mess it was. At first, Go Daddy was not very helpful. They said it was my fault. That was crap.

When I tried to reach Bob Parsons to complain, suddenly help became available. I needed help immediately because 7 of my prime sites were down. Someone was assigned to help me and he switched everything to a new server to clear it up. It worked. Took a while, but it worked.

I'am gradually moving all hosting over to Hostgator. Using GoDaddy only for name registration.

So, in answer to your question, it can happen. We must be prepared for any tech issue. Put it in your agreement with your clients so you cover yourself.
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Here's the paypal link for Mobile Checkout:

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I personally think QR Codes work great in real estate however I think you need to pick your market and aresa.

As Will said if you are out in the suburbs then getting out of the car is a definite downer for the neighbors and owners etc.

But we have done them for demonstration homes, condos, pre sales of home units, in real estate windows in fact anywhere you get walk through traffic or you need to provide extra info.

We recently did a set for a large home unit sales program in the CBD of our city.

So there is definitely a place for them in the real estate market.

As for age I think you would be surprised at who is using a smart phone these days as Baby Boomers are enamored with technology and I see a heap of them around playing with their smartphones.

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I personally think QR Codes work great in real estate however I think you need to pick your market and aresa.

As Will said if you are out in the suburbs then getting out of the car is a definite downer for the neighbors and owners etc.

But we have done them for demonstration homes, condos, pre sales of home units, in real estate windows in fact anywhere you get walk through traffic or you need to provide extra info.

We recently did a set for a large home unit sales program in the CBD of our city.

So there is definitely a place for them in the real estate market.

As for age I think you would be surprised at who is using a smart phone these days as Baby Boomers are enamored with technology and I see a heap of them around playing with their smartphones.

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Smart realtors know they must engage a hodgepodge of marketing options to reach prospective buyers.

I work with realtors who have their hands in all kinds of marketing - especially where the cost is zero or very low. They want to reach buyers from every possible angle.

WillR can't wrap his head around the fact that QR Codes would be just one weapon in the marketing arsenal. There can't be anything wrong with that. A lot of realtors will have 3 options at their listed property: (1) a text message code, (2) a brochure, (3) a QR Code. Let the visitor take their pick. Heck, if just 2 people drive by a sign and use their phone to scan a QR Code and the realtor ends up with a $3,000 commission, nothing more need be said.
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Well as I said, I guess it also depends on where you are working. I have 3 brothers who have been in real estate for 15 + years and this was their concern when they were told about this technology recently.

Note, I am not saying do not use technology I am saying use a better technology. Honestly, who wants to get out of their car and go and scan a signboard when instead they could see a word and text it to a number, from the comfort of their car.

As I also previously mentioned a lot of people don't like to have their interest be known and wouldn't like to be seen poking around the sign board out the front of a house. I just don't think a technology that requires more effort from the end user is the answer. Text messaging is a much better fit and is also a technology that a lot more people have on their phones as opposed to the small percentage who would have a QR code reader.

QR codes are definitely a great 'gimmick' in some industries but I do not think the introduction of them into the real estate market is going to make anything work more efficiently than it already does.

Just my opinion...


Whew WillR, you're incorrigible.

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So anyone can post their recent results as far as how they were able to get new clients? Is email marketing working good or cold calling? Any been experimenting on what is working for them?

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Thanks for posting. I had heard about Quentin's script and now I know where to find it.
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Whew WillR, you're incorrigible.

Signing out. :confused:
You know, your little rants here are needless and getting old. Trying to pick a fight with Will is not making you look good. Make your point and move on without continually harassing others. You're sounding like a dick.

I hope you're not so incorrigible.
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