Mobile Website Design big business in our local market!

gomarket · 24th Jun 2011, 07:06 PM

Hey Scott, how much seo do you include for your average mobile site?

scotth · 25th Jun 2011, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewE

John,

Which of your offline groups are you referencing here?

Thanks,
Matthew

Hey Matthew,

John is referring to his forum The Telemarketing Forum

scotth · 25th Jun 2011, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by gomarket

Hey Scott, how much seo do you include for your average mobile site?

I provide On-Site SEO and Off-Site and submit the domain to different directory sites provided in Quentins Tutorials.

MKBridge · 25th Jun 2011, 09:52 AM

I am getting clients that use monthly paid subscription sites for their regular websites, and boy its a pain! Its easy to make the sale, get the mobile website done and then things bog down from there! I know there is no easy answer, just thought I would rant!
Also, I am just starting my SMS texting business - how do people make money at this? From the examples I see, It seems you need A LOT of clients to make a bit of money. Any comments on this?
Thanks MK (And yes - A LOT is actually two words - boy I am ranting this morning, sorry)

kiwichamp · 25th Jun 2011, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by TommyB

If any of you get a chance I would like if you could take a look at this example site I put up to show businesses what there's might look like: http://motexts.com/w/home.php?advid=1742
You can view this on your PC
Thanks for any comments

Wow - this is nice Tommy!!

Is this your company?

Izesta · 25th Jun 2011, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ian Jackson

Since I'm not much of a user of mobiles - beyond phone call and texts, I'm pretty new to this, but I see it's been around several months now.

I do most of my work and comms at my home PC and laptop - both very convenient for my opersonal use per se. I am not yet full-time IM, at which point I will inevitably venture beyond the aforementioned.

My query: Does anyone foresee potential problems with the size of the mobile interface? or is it just me!

. I need reading glasses to see my PC and laptop screen these days - and definitley to see the calendar-window on my watch, and my Nokia phone screen.

Personally I'd much rather use a conventional size screen (with a mouse) to peruse websites, work online and so on, but it seems that there's a massive market for these dinky-sized applications, and thy're the way forwards...

Would appreciate you thoughts on the visual ergonomics of mobile websites and marketing (versus PC/laptop screens) in this context.

Hope this isn't thread-hijacking, but I considered it relevant, and hopefully of benefit to others too, thanks.

Ian, I am also at that age where bifocals are necessary. Yes, I usually do need them to use my android w/o straining, but that goes for most things in my life now. For sure, when I am out & about and need to access something on the Internet, I do not want to have to try to view the typical desktop site on my phone. That just will not work. If I need to stop at a business for something and can't pull up their site to get quick info, they will lose my business. Gas is too costly & time too precious to drive to their door when they might not have what I need. It has happened to me before. Sometimes a phone number will suffice, but sometimes it won't.

Keep in mind, no one is trying to do research on the mobile. I'll do that when I'm back home or at work. It's mainly for quick info - who/what/when/where/why/how.

Izesta · 25th Jun 2011, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by TommyB

If any of you get a chance I would like if you could take a look at this example site I put up to show businesses what there's might look like: http://motexts.com/w/home.php?advid=1742
You can view this on your PC
Thanks for any comments

You go Tommy. Nice, nice, nice !!!!

Izesta · 25th Jun 2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by MKBridge

I am getting clients that use monthly paid subscription sites for their regular websites, and boy its a pain! Its easy to make the sale, get the mobile website done and then things bog down from there! I know there is no easy answer, just thought I would rant!
Also, I am just starting my SMS texting business - how do people make money at this? From the examples I see, It seems you need A LOT of clients to make a bit of money. Any comments on this?
Thanks MK (And yes - A LOT is actually two words - boy I am ranting this morning, sorry)

What do you mean by "monthly paid subscription sites ?" Can you give an example?

Izesta · 25th Jun 2011, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by MannyMarketing

Hey Steve, thanks for the concern!

Well, I waited an extra day just in case they didn't check their email on Monday, and I was too busy with work to call on Tuesday so I called yesterday around 4:30ish using John Durham's script for Lead Generation, tailored for my "free mobile website preview" offer and had a "gatekeeper" pick up the phone.
I asked for the owner or whoever deals with the restaurants marketing and was told that the owner was not there and if I wanted to leave a message. I said yes and finished the script (probably should have asked to just call back) , then asked if they are still using the email which is on their facebook fan page. He said yes and I then told him to have the owner call me back to explain more about the mobile website. He said okay and we ended the call.
Being the guy that probably just takes orders I actually do not think he understood the "mobile website preview" part and will just tell the owner that I was some marketing company, but I'm hoping he calls back.
Thing is I already sent out an email a few days back with no response so I think I should just wait for a call instead of sending another email.

It was my first ever "cold" call, so that felt good to get out of the way.
I was a nervous wreck before calling, practicing the call at least 20 times before actually calling. :p
But once the call connected, everything flowed nicely which was great!

I got a confidence boost and am in the process of making an excel spreadsheet with potential leads phone numbers from various sources and will be making calls starting tomorrow. Excited!

Have you considered giving your very 1st site for free? Just give it to him and be honest that you are new in the business, and would just like to be able to use him as a referral. Wait a while and then call him back for the names of his fellow biz owners & biz friends. This works well for most people. You've put a lot of effort into this guy. Might as well get something. Put the site up on your server and call back and have them look at it. Then go from there.

I hate to be sneaky, but if I am sometimes. After you get the site up, have a few of your friends/family call the restaurant to ask a question or whatever and have them say they saw the site on their mobile phone.

So, now he knows it got it for free AND it's working.

My 8 cents.

Izesta · 25th Jun 2011, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by TommyB

If any of you get a chance I would like if you could take a look at this example site I put up to show businesses what there's might look like: http://motexts.com/w/home.php?advid=1742
You can view this on your PC
Thanks for any comments

Tommy, I signed up with Customer Advantage back in March. Looks like some deals are finally in the works - based on the latest update.

MKBridge · 27th Jun 2011, 05:59 AM

Izesta - Sites like homestead.com and ubertor.com. People use these sites to host their website.

kiwichamp · 27th Jun 2011, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by TommyB

If any of you get a chance I would like if you could take a look at this example site I put up to show businesses what there's might look like: http://motexts.com/w/home.php?advid=1742
You can view this on your PC
Thanks for any comments

Hi Tommy -
I just checked your site with the Mobi Ready testing site to see what would happen - and it did not fair too well.

MobiReady Report... processing your page.

You might be want to check the error messages to see if you can change some of the coding.

MagicAce · 27th Jun 2011, 07:00 AM

kiwichamp,

From my point of view that site dones't reflect how good a mobile site actually works and looks on a mobile.

That site does not take in consideraton any scripts that you are using or other stuff like that.

Thats what I think.

Jay Moreno · 27th Jun 2011, 07:43 AM

Mobiready doesn't take into account that the phone viewing the site could actually be a smartphone - it was developed some time ago even before the iPhone was a twinkle in mr jobs eye lol

@kiwichamp if you look at the front page of the mobiready site you will see they showcase a few sites, theres a green poker themed mobi site that's highlighted as being 5star rated in the header, the site was done for someone here in San Antonio, I did it about five years ago using joomla! Lol

joanne2 · 28th Jun 2011, 12:38 AM

Just wanted to say that this thread has been very helpful and informative, along with Quentin Brown's resizing script and tutorials for creating mobile sites.

Quentin · 28th Jun 2011, 02:31 AM

Nice site Tommy but unfortunately does not fit on my HTC droid very well. Also you can check it on the simulator.

Iphone mobile simulator emulator

This is why you need a stretch and fit system so it will fit on any phone.

Quentin

jwpdad · 28th Jun 2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by scotth

I provide On-Site SEO and Off-Site and submit the domain to different directory sites provided in Quentins Tutorials.

Scott,

Thanks so much for all the great information you have provided in this thread. Are you saying you include this as part of their purchase of a mobile site at no additional charge? If so, I assume you use that as a closing point to close the sale, is there anything else you say to convert the prospect and seal the deal? About how many directories do you submit to?

jwpdad · 28th Jun 2011, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by scotth

I used daves email with a twist...added a quick jing video for the client showing his site on a mobile phone simulator from Quentin's email method in his members area and landed 3 new mobile clients...I also put in the spypig code in the email and called when they opened it which helped, never left my home.

Sorry for just now responding to this from a month ago but I just came across this thread, have read it all and am learning a lot, thanks!

It sounds like you were able to close these sales on the phone without a face to face meeting, is that right or am I missing something with the phrase "never left my home." I like your idea of calling when you are notified they have opened the email, I am going to try to do that as well. I have no problem going to meetings and will do that but I am looking for some efficient methods and if I could at least close some by phone that would be great. I have some b2b telemarketing experience and I have sold things that were not nearly as good a value as this mobile website concept for about the same money and closed it all on the phone so I know it should be possible.

If you or any others reading this have closed some on the phone do you have any particular pointers for how the calls and follow up should go to end up with a closed sale? Again, thanks in advance and this is a wonderful contribution you have made to this forum.

AlrekKhaan · 29th Jun 2011, 10:59 AM

I am trying to connect to a client via Filezilla and am having an error connecting. Here is what it says after I try port 21 and no port and then hit QuickConnect...

Response: 530 Login authentication failed
Error: Critical error
Error: Could not connect to server

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I am doing wrong? Thank you for the help.

scarab · 29th Jun 2011, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by AlrekKhaan

I am trying to connect to a client via Filezilla and am having an error connecting. Here is what it says after I try port 21 and no port and then hit QuickConnect...

Response: 530 Login authentication failed
Error: Critical error
Error: Could not connect to server

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I am doing wrong? Thank you for the help.

I just checked my settings,
hostname.com no www, port is blank
Choose the FTP protocol
encryption is plain FTP
user name
passwd
Account is set to my username

Hope it helps

Quentin · 29th Jun 2011, 03:42 PM

yep don't use any http then just add the username and password.

You can check because you should also be able to log into cpanel with the same user name and password if your on a lynix system.

Quentin

scotth · 29th Jun 2011, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by jwpdad

Sorry for just now responding to this from a month ago but I just came across this thread, have read it all and am learning a lot, thanks!

It sounds like you were able to close these sales on the phone without a face to face meeting, is that right or am I missing something with the phrase "never left my home." I like your idea of calling when you are notified they have opened the email, I am going to try to do that as well. I have no problem going to meetings and will do that but I am looking for some efficient methods and if I could at least close some by phone that would be great. I have some b2b telemarketing experience and I have sold things that were not nearly as good a value as this mobile website concept for about the same money and closed it all on the phone so I know it should be possible.

If you or any others reading this have closed some on the phone do you have any particular pointers for how the calls and follow up should go to end up with a closed sale? Again, thanks in advance and this is a wonderful contribution you have made to this forum.

I still went into the office and met with the business owner to seal the deal. I have gotten good leads using the email method but I still would meet with the business owner.

zoro · 30th Jun 2011, 04:13 AM

To get my foot in the door for mobile websites I thought I might first create a Free QR code of the potential client's website URL, then send it to them via email or postcard. They would quickly realise that their website looks like crap on a mobile phone, I could then sell them on a mobile site.
Has anyone tried this?

Adrian John · 30th Jun 2011, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by zoro

To get my foot in the door for mobile websites I thought I might first create a Free QR code of the potential client's website URL, then send it to them via email or postcard. They would quickly realise that their website looks like crap on a mobile phone, I could then sell them on a mobile site.
Has anyone tried this?

I have been thinking of something like that.
I'm gonna try this approach these days too and see what happens.
Keep us updated if you try it

Good luck

scotth · 30th Jun 2011, 11:00 AM

The number 1 fastest way is to flat out call business owners...if you call business owners 20 times a day to set up a 10 minute meeting to show them their New 1 page Mobile website your going to kill it..Its how I am able to do a minimum of 3-5 mobile sites per week now I have so many referrals coming in that not having to call any more. Got to go through the fire but you will not get burned I promise!

allegrity · 30th Jun 2011, 11:20 AM

Thanks scotth, I also know cold calling and setting up appointments will work.

To others, don't waste your time e-mailing clients if you can just call and meet up for a short meeting with an example website made once you get there. 7 months sending many e-mails a day trying many different things and not a single client so far. I plan to only use e-mail now to try to make mobile websites for free for local charities or fundraisers and try to get my name out there and get referrals.

If only I had a car, I could go out and do these meetings. I'm still trying to find a sales person in my area...

I have also thought about calling web designers who are already established and have clients that don't offer mobile website services and trying to joint venture with them (outsource the mobile website work to me) for a flat rate per client or commission and just letting them charge however much they want to their client. Has anyone tried this or has anyone had luck doing something like this in the past?

@scott - how many websites have you made already and how many of those from referrals? just wondering.

AshleyPS · 30th Jun 2011, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by scotth

The number 1 fastest way is to flat out call business owners...if you call business owners 20 times a day to set up a 10 minute meeting to show them their New 1 page Mobile website your going to kill it..Its how I am able to do a minimum of 3-5 mobile sites per week now I have so many referrals coming in that not having to call any more. Got to go through the fire but you will not get burned I promise!

How do you introduce this?

"Hi, I'm a local business that creates mobile sites... I've set up a mock-up that I'd like to show you?"

Sorry for asking such a specific question.

So far I've tried different approaches and I'm wondering where I'm going wrong.

I've tried e-mailing a video of what their site looks like and following up with a call, but no joy with that approach. I've also just walked into a bunch of businesses and introduced myself... although most restaurants don't have the person in charge (of marketing) in the restaurant at the time and just ask for my card.

Steve Wise · 30th Jun 2011, 11:57 AM

I was considering sending an email with a short video explaining the benefits of mobile sites. However, what seems to be coming across in the thread is that phoning the business is by far the most successful method, as with email it may not be opened.

scotth · 30th Jun 2011, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by AshleyPS

How do you introduce this?

"Hi, I'm a local business that creates mobile sites... I've set up a mock-up that I'd like to show you?"

Sorry for asking such a specific question.

So far I've tried different approaches and I'm wondering where I'm going wrong.

I've tried e-mailing a video of what their site looks like and following up with a call, but no joy with that approach. I've also just walked into a bunch of businesses and introduced myself... although most restaurants don't have the person in charge (of marketing) in the restaurant at the time and just ask for my card.

How I found my way to getting clients was cold calling...where I found it easiest for me was calling companies that have placed offers from Living Social, Gilt City ect..I go after restaurants, hair salons and jewelery stores...here is my pitch

"my name is Scott Herrera and I'm a local business owner, I saw your website this morning, but noticed you don't have a mobile website.

I would like to share with you how mobile marketing could enhance customer accessibility to your business and provide you with potentially hundreds of new and returning customers every month."

I will create a home page of your current site for you that is mobile ready all I ask is for a 10 minute meeting to share the value of mobile marketing."

My main agenda is to get 10 min appointments..I make 20 calls I get 1-2 meetings...I do it 4 times a week Mon-Thur out of 5 10 min. meetings I get 2 closed.

When I go to the meeting I bring a one page mock up of their site...that visual works seeing their site on a smartphone vs the mock up..they are taken back...and quickly realize they need it.

Now I am getting referrers from my clients..So not having to cold call as much...

I will assure you that mobile marketing is goldmine untapped in our local market.

Hope this helps,

ScottH

Quentin · 1st Jul 2011, 03:41 AM

I do exactly the same as Scott however I add a QR Code to the mix.

I havent had to cold call for the last few months as I get all mine through referral as well.

I still do a little to keep fresh but not to get business.

In fact when you do it this way it is amazing how your conversions increase. I think it is because I am now very confident in what I am doing and people can tell in your voice. Also I am not in need of the sale so I am not as pushy as I was in the beginning.

Q

Irsan Komarga · 1st Jul 2011, 06:28 AM

I am going after local hotel in my city which is huge business.

Where can I see some samples for hotel mobile optimized website?

I think my pricing structures will be like this.

Package A - Basic - $197
1. Use template as design
2. Up to 6 pages, extra page = $50
3. Google map
4. 1st mock up in 3 days, 3 free revisions.
5. Phone number tap dial automatically
Bonus = Free on page SEO

Package B - Advanced $497
1. Custom design
2. Up to 6 pages, extra page = $50
3. Google map
4. 1st mock up in 7 days, 3 free revisions.
5. Phone number tap dial automatically
Bonus = Free on page SEO, FREE tracking

Package C - Ultimate $997
1. Custom design
2. Up to 9 pages
3. Google map
4. 1st mock up in 7 days, 3 free revisions.
5. Phone number tap dial automatically
6. 3rd party booking application
Bonus = Free on page SEO, FREE tracking

Eduard Ruppel · 1st Jul 2011, 07:29 AM

At the moment my WP is getting designed and developed. ANd after this I will start with Mobile web pages and QR codes here in Beijing China. I guess this will work out really good

rolltide · 1st Jul 2011, 08:01 AM

Scott and Quentin,
What are you pricing these at?

Mary Wilhite · 1st Jul 2011, 12:24 PM

keep the strong goal going on scott.good work.

Quentin · 2nd Jul 2011, 01:09 AM

My pricing varies on the customer requirement and I create modules for each additional service like Google Analytics, Google places page, picture gallery, submission etc.

Having said that Irsan has a pretty good pricing model up the top.

The thing with pricing is you have to work out your own expenses, what you want to make profit wise, plus any additional things.

So for example my expenses are small and I only want to make 100K profit a year so my pricing structure may be very different to yours. If you charged what I did you may go broke.

The point is there is no one set price. To one customer I may charge $100 and a hosting charge and another for the same site $500 because they want to host it on their own site.

One customer I charge a $1000 a month because we do additions every day and updates etc. (Govt Client)

So work out your base rate and go from there.

Quentin

chika138 · 2nd Jul 2011, 08:03 AM

Hmmm I am curious about one thing. For those who can't travel, how about setting appointments but do it over web conference/Skype?

I know not everyone has Skype but there are free browser-based web conference call applications around which you can also show your face via webcam.

I am actually wondering it this will work for me. Currently considering a few projects to pick from to fill up my summer break. It's now or never for me so I need something which has higher chance to succeed in.

With websites like eat24hours.com which I think smartphone users can order easily from will it be hard for us to get more restaurants to get their own mobile websites?

Irsan Komarga · 2nd Jul 2011, 10:42 PM

Hi Quentin,
I have a question that's been lingering on my mind.
Most of the clients had already website they've made with previous web designer.
And when we offer our services to them, how to make sure that they don't turn to their old designer because they already had a previous relationship which might be an advantage.

Genesis1 · 3rd Jul 2011, 08:40 AM

Thanks for sharing your success with us, Scott
Your niche is super cool, I've never heard of any business owners promoting such things.
Thanks for your kind feedback!

Quentin · 3rd Jul 2011, 09:45 AM

Hey Isran
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After working with over 200 clients with mobile sites I can tell you over 90% do not have a webmaster. Most had their site built and then never did any more.

The ones that do tend to just use them for basic mait and do not know about mobile websites.

In fact the very reason I started to do mobile websites was to get access to business owners and mobile websites was a lot easier than doing SEO or Website refurbishment.

We still use them today because nearly all our clients did not have a webmaster.

You will find this too once you get out into the marketplace.

Quentin

mixhat · 4th Jul 2011, 08:58 AM

anyone try with getgomobi (dot) com ?? Im interested use this soft to make mobile websites

vijay gandhi · 4th Jul 2011, 11:36 AM

Excellent Stuff _ well done.
keep sharing.

vijay gandhi · 4th Jul 2011, 11:40 AM

Excellent stuff- well done.
keep sharing.

P1 · 4th Jul 2011, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by mixhat

anyone try with getmobi (dot) com ?? Im interested use this soft to make mobile websites

I think your URL is wrong, it has nothing to do with mobile sites.

vijay gandhi · 4th Jul 2011, 12:08 PM

nice site Tommy. this thread have very informational stuff.

mrtrance · 5th Jul 2011, 02:12 PM

Anyone here have any success with emails to get clients? Or is cold calling the way to go about getting clients? Any success stories with emails? And if you had success if you could share a summary what you say in the email to get a response back?

scotth · 5th Jul 2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Anyone here have any success with emails to get clients? Or is cold calling the way to go about getting clients? Any success stories with emails? And if you had success if you could share a summary what you say in the email to get a response back?

I can tell you from experience that cold calling is faster to the money..Email works but takes more time. Business owners are not likely going to give you a check unless you go see them first.

ProvenViral · 5th Jul 2011, 03:24 PM

Mobile websites are especially good for offline marketing and getting clients ready.

I'm starting my own mobile website business with local clients especially ones here in NYC where everyone will almost need a mobile website for their businesses.

mrtrance · 5th Jul 2011, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by scotth

I can tell you from experience that cold calling is faster to the money..Email works but takes more time. Business owners are not likely going to give you a check unless you go see them first.

Thanks Scott.

What is the best way to go about picking which businesses to cold call? Should we pick the ones that are already advertising in some way either by way of PPC, magazine ads, yellow pages, etc. and do not have a mobile optimized website yet? Any specific industry that seems to be easier to sell to compared to others?

scotth · 5th Jul 2011, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Thanks Scott.

What is the best way to go about picking which businesses to cold call? Should we pick the ones that are already advertising in some way either by way of PPC, magazine ads, yellow pages, etc. and do not have a mobile optimized website yet? Any specific industry that seems to be easier to sell to compared to others?

Go to the post below it will give you an idea of what I say and type of industries I like to go after.

http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ml#post4169397

Jay Moreno · 6th Jul 2011, 03:55 AM

Just came across a post that discussed what google has to say about mobile web, till now I didn't realize just how important it is that you make sure your sites validate for the older types of cell phone user agents, if it doesn't there's a good chance that google will not serve up your mobile friendly site to mobile users in the SERPS.

The article goes on to discuss mobile seo, canonicalization and URL site structures ie m. subdomains etc - if your mobile site isn't getting crawled by googles mobilebot the answer may lie here, it's certainly clarified a few things for me and I am not a newcomer to this game by any means...

Enjoy - Google Recommends Single URL For Smart Phone Mobile SEO

24th Jun 2011, 07:06 PM	#1251
gomarket Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2005 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 71 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hey Scott, how much seo do you include for your average mobile site?
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25th Jun 2011, 09:52 AM	#1254
MKBridge Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: British Columbia Posts: 97 Thanks: 20 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I am getting clients that use monthly paid subscription sites for their regular websites, and boy its a pain! Its easy to make the sale, get the mobile website done and then things bog down from there! I know there is no easy answer, just thought I would rant! Also, I am just starting my SMS texting business - how do people make money at this? From the examples I see, It seems you need A LOT of clients to make a bit of money. Any comments on this? Thanks MK (And yes - A LOT is actually two words - boy I am ranting this morning, sorry)

27th Jun 2011, 05:59 AM	#1261
MKBridge Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: British Columbia Posts: 97 Thanks: 20 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Izesta - Sites like homestead.com and ubertor.com. People use these sites to host their website.

27th Jun 2011, 07:00 AM	#1263
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27th Jun 2011, 07:43 AM	#1264
Jay Moreno Mobile+WP = JumpMobi.com War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 1,270 Thanks: 301 Thanked 449 Times in 309 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Mobiready doesn't take into account that the phone viewing the site could actually be a smartphone - it was developed some time ago even before the iPhone was a twinkle in mr jobs eye lol @kiwichamp if you look at the front page of the mobiready site you will see they showcase a few sites, theres a green poker themed mobi site that's highlighted as being 5star rated in the header, the site was done for someone here in San Antonio, I did it about five years ago using joomla! Lol

28th Jun 2011, 12:38 AM	#1265
joanne2 Joanne Join Date: 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Just wanted to say that this thread has been very helpful and informative, along with Quentin Brown's resizing script and tutorials for creating mobile sites.

28th Jun 2011, 02:31 AM	#1266
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29th Jun 2011, 10:59 AM	#1269
AlrekKhaan Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I am trying to connect to a client via Filezilla and am having an error connecting. Here is what it says after I try port 21 and no port and then hit QuickConnect... Response: 530 Login authentication failed Error: Critical error Error: Could not connect to server Does anyone have any suggestions on what I am doing wrong? Thank you for the help.

29th Jun 2011, 03:42 PM	#1271
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: yep don't use any http then just add the username and password. You can check because you should also be able to log into cpanel with the same user name and password if your on a lynix system. Quentin
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30th Jun 2011, 04:13 AM	#1273
zoro Online for Offline War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Qld. Australia. Posts: 1,628 Thanks: 351 Thanked 222 Times in 191 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: To get my foot in the door for mobile websites I thought I might first create a Free QR code of the potential client's website URL, then send it to them via email or postcard. They would quickly realise that their website looks like crap on a mobile phone, I could then sell them on a mobile site. Has anyone tried this?

30th Jun 2011, 11:00 AM	#1275
scotth HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 325 Thanks: 9 Thanked 203 Times in 81 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: The number 1 fastest way is to flat out call business owners...if you call business owners 20 times a day to set up a 10 minute meeting to show them their New 1 page Mobile website your going to kill it..Its how I am able to do a minimum of 3-5 mobile sites per week now I have so many referrals coming in that not having to call any more. Got to go through the fire but you will not get burned I promise!
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30th Jun 2011, 11:20 AM	#1276
allegrity HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2010 Posts: 118 Thanks: 10 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Thanks scotth, I also know cold calling and setting up appointments will work. To others, don't waste your time e-mailing clients if you can just call and meet up for a short meeting with an example website made once you get there. 7 months sending many e-mails a day trying many different things and not a single client so far. I plan to only use e-mail now to try to make mobile websites for free for local charities or fundraisers and try to get my name out there and get referrals. If only I had a car, I could go out and do these meetings. I'm still trying to find a sales person in my area... I have also thought about calling web designers who are already established and have clients that don't offer mobile website services and trying to joint venture with them (outsource the mobile website work to me) for a flat rate per client or commission and just letting them charge however much they want to their client. Has anyone tried this or has anyone had luck doing something like this in the past? @scott - how many websites have you made already and how many of those from referrals? just wondering.

30th Jun 2011, 11:57 AM	#1278
Steve Wise HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 369 Thanks: 82 Thanked 67 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I was considering sending an email with a short video explaining the benefits of mobile sites. However, what seems to be coming across in the thread is that phoning the business is by far the most successful method, as with email it may not be opened.

1st Jul 2011, 03:41 AM	#1280
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I do exactly the same as Scott however I add a QR Code to the mix. I havent had to cold call for the last few months as I get all mine through referral as well. I still do a little to keep fresh but not to get business. In fact when you do it this way it is amazing how your conversions increase. I think it is because I am now very confident in what I am doing and people can tell in your voice. Also I am not in need of the sale so I am not as pushy as I was in the beginning. Q
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1st Jul 2011, 06:28 AM	#1281
Irsan Komarga HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2007 Location: Jakarta Posts: 291 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: I am going after local hotel in my city which is huge business. Where can I see some samples for hotel mobile optimized website? I think my pricing structures will be like this. Package A - Basic - $197 1. Use template as design 2. Up to 6 pages, extra page = $50 3. Google map 4. 1st mock up in 3 days, 3 free revisions. 5. Phone number tap dial automatically Bonus = Free on page SEO Package B - Advanced $497 1. Custom design 2. Up to 6 pages, extra page = $50 3. Google map 4. 1st mock up in 7 days, 3 free revisions. 5. Phone number tap dial automatically Bonus = Free on page SEO, FREE tracking Package C - Ultimate $997 1. Custom design 2. Up to 9 pages 3. Google map 4. 1st mock up in 7 days, 3 free revisions. 5. Phone number tap dial automatically 6. 3rd party booking application Bonus = Free on page SEO, FREE tracking

1st Jul 2011, 07:29 AM	#1282
Eduard Ruppel HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Posts: 240 Thanks: 11 Thanked 38 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: At the moment my WP is getting designed and developed. ANd after this I will start with Mobile web pages and QR codes here in Beijing China. I guess this will work out really good

1st Jul 2011, 08:01 AM	#1283
rolltide Senior Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 1,409 Thanks: 805 Thanked 169 Times in 140 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Scott and Quentin, What are you pricing these at?

1st Jul 2011, 12:24 PM	#1284
Mary Wilhite Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Canton, Georgia Posts: 748 Thanks: 27 Thanked 143 Times in 122 Posts Blog Entries: 13	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: keep the strong goal going on scott.good work.
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2nd Jul 2011, 01:09 AM	#1285
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: My pricing varies on the customer requirement and I create modules for each additional service like Google Analytics, Google places page, picture gallery, submission etc. Having said that Irsan has a pretty good pricing model up the top. The thing with pricing is you have to work out your own expenses, what you want to make profit wise, plus any additional things. So for example my expenses are small and I only want to make 100K profit a year so my pricing structure may be very different to yours. If you charged what I did you may go broke. The point is there is no one set price. To one customer I may charge $100 and a hosting charge and another for the same site $500 because they want to host it on their own site. One customer I charge a $1000 a month because we do additions every day and updates etc. (Govt Client) So work out your base rate and go from there. Quentin
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2nd Jul 2011, 08:03 AM	#1286
chika138 Graham Chong War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: England Posts: 146 Thanks: 30 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hmmm I am curious about one thing. For those who can't travel, how about setting appointments but do it over web conference/Skype? I know not everyone has Skype but there are free browser-based web conference call applications around which you can also show your face via webcam. I am actually wondering it this will work for me. Currently considering a few projects to pick from to fill up my summer break. It's now or never for me so I need something which has higher chance to succeed in. With websites like eat24hours.com which I think smartphone users can order easily from will it be hard for us to get more restaurants to get their own mobile websites?

2nd Jul 2011, 10:42 PM	#1287
Irsan Komarga HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2007 Location: Jakarta Posts: 291 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hi Quentin, I have a question that's been lingering on my mind. Most of the clients had already website they've made with previous web designer. And when we offer our services to them, how to make sure that they don't turn to their old designer because they already had a previous relationship which might be an advantage.

3rd Jul 2011, 08:40 AM	#1288
Genesis1 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2010 Posts: 163 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Thanks for sharing your success with us, Scott Your niche is super cool, I've never heard of any business owners promoting such things. Thanks for your kind feedback!
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3rd Jul 2011, 09:45 AM	#1289
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Hey Isran ' After working with over 200 clients with mobile sites I can tell you over 90% do not have a webmaster. Most had their site built and then never did any more. The ones that do tend to just use them for basic mait and do not know about mobile websites. In fact the very reason I started to do mobile websites was to get access to business owners and mobile websites was a lot easier than doing SEO or Website refurbishment. We still use them today because nearly all our clients did not have a webmaster. You will find this too once you get out into the marketplace. Quentin
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4th Jul 2011, 08:58 AM	#1290
mixhat Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: anyone try with getgomobi (dot) com ?? Im interested use this soft to make mobile websites

4th Jul 2011, 11:36 AM	#1291
vijay gandhi Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Excellent Stuff _ well done. keep sharing.

4th Jul 2011, 11:40 AM	#1292
vijay gandhi Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Excellent stuff- well done. keep sharing.

4th Jul 2011, 12:08 PM	#1294
vijay gandhi Warrior Member Join Date: 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: nice site Tommy. this thread have very informational stuff.

5th Jul 2011, 02:12 PM	#1295
mrtrance Advanced Warrior Join Date: 2008 Posts: 945 Thanks: 4 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Anyone here have any success with emails to get clients? Or is cold calling the way to go about getting clients? Any success stories with emails? And if you had success if you could share a summary what you say in the email to get a response back?

5th Jul 2011, 03:24 PM	#1297
ProvenViral HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 412 Thanks: 101 Thanked 39 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Mobile websites are especially good for offline marketing and getting clients ready. I'm starting my own mobile website business with local clients especially ones here in NYC where everyone will almost need a mobile website for their businesses.
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6th Jul 2011, 03:55 AM	#1300
Jay Moreno Mobile+WP = JumpMobi.com War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 1,270 Thanks: 301 Thanked 449 Times in 309 Posts	Re: Mobile Website Design big business in our local market! Share on: Just came across a post that discussed what google has to say about mobile web, till now I didn't realize just how important it is that you make sure your sites validate for the older types of cell phone user agents, if it doesn't there's a good chance that google will not serve up your mobile friendly site to mobile users in the SERPS. The article goes on to discuss mobile seo, canonicalization and URL site structures ie m. subdomains etc - if your mobile site isn't getting crawled by googles mobilebot the answer may lie here, it's certainly clarified a few things for me and I am not a newcomer to this game by any means... Enjoy - Google Recommends Single URL For Smart Phone Mobile SEO