Thanks To John Durham... - In Other Words Get Off Your Butt & Just Do It!

by southbaybones 26 replies
Hi Warriors,

I've tried the email marketing, Craigslist, and classified ads in my local area to no avail.

I've had some telemarketing experience from my past but I initially I really didn't that route. But needing some money real quick, I bucked up and started making my first calls this morning. Could only make about 60 or so calls between babysitting.

I don't remember where I heard it, but found out that John was giving away his "Offline On Crack" in audio format for free.

Downloaded, and listened to it over the weekend. Copied the greeting and pitch down almost verbatim.

The way I collect leads is this. It is kind of tedious but since I don't have a lot of funds, outsourcing right now is out of the question. I only go after "service" based businesses like John suggests.

I go to Google Places and type in my city + keyword. I go through the first 5 pages of listings and look for those companies without a website. Then I go to Manta and search for the company's name so I can get the owners name.

When I call, If the owners name is not listed, I just ask whoever answers the phone, who is in charge of their Internet Marketing, then go into my greeting.

Here are my results today:

40 - No answers/Disconnects/Answering Machine/Owner Not In, etc.
3 - No's
3 - Maybe's

One of the Maybe's, I need to call back this afternoon as she was going out on an appointment. Will see how it goes.

Another Maybe, said he has a website and out of nowhere I asked how that was working out for him and if he was getting any traffic from it. He said he wasn't sure so I said I would take a look at his site and get back to him tomorrow.

The last Maybe, I kinda screwed up on. After the greeting, the owner asked how much a 3-5 page website is. I quoted him and I allowed him to take control of the conversation. He asked for my number and that he would check his schedule and get back to me.

I figure all is not lost though. I should have taken control and told him I would be in the area and give him a couple of options for us to meet and talk.

I will follow up with him tomorrow and tell him I'll be in the area that afternoon or Wednesday and go from there.

Had a question though. Am I calling at the wrong times? I was calling between 10:00 and 11:00 here in California. I sure did get a lot of no answers.

Anyways, this post turned out longer than I thought. I just want to thank John Durham, his Telemarketing Forum, and the WF for all that has given back by its wonderful members.

In closing, all I have to say is this:

HIGH PROBABILITY SELLING BABY!

Have fun,

South Bay Bones
#offline marketing #butt #durham #john #words
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Wow Southbaybones!!!

    How awesome to have been slightly bummed out when logging on about a separate issue and then to see this! Wow. How uplifting.

    Yeah just keep rockin you'll hit it. I like what I see here because you are making good distinctions about your call sessions and how you feel you could get more out of them... each session will increase in efficiency fast if you keep doing that!

    Thanks for the encouragement, its good to know we help people. What you are setting out to do is very reasonably accomplished. I have no doubt you will be reporting alot of progress soon. On second thought, lets replace the word "progress" with "Money"!

    Wow, thanks for taking the time to say something nice about someone else, this makes my day!
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    • Profile picture of the author southbaybones
      You're welcome John! If it wasn't for you and your TMF I might be still sitting on my butt worrying about how I'm going to make money.

      Was just wondering if you had any other ideas on collecting leads as I don't have the funds to purchase lists your now.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Because you were so kind as to go out of your way and say something nice... I will create for you a free lead list of 500 businesses. Please pm me your demographics including geography and what type of offer you will be making, and what kind of customers you want to target.

    I'll make you a good list!

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      John,
      How can I get the audio? Hopefully I can give you another glowing review! I loath cold calling so maybe this will give me some space of opportunity.
      Kevin


      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Because you were so kind as to go out of your way and say something nice... I will create for you a free lead list of 500 businesses. Please pm me your demographics including geography and what type of offer you will be making, and what kind of customers you want to target.

      I'll make you a good list!

      Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author cagwatson
      Great story!

      FAO John - This lead list you're referring to, could you PM me some details as its something that i would be interested in purchasing..

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
        Originally Posted by cagwatson View Post

        Great story!

        FAO John - This lead list you're referring to, could you PM me some details as its something that i would be interested in purchasing..

        Thanks
        If I were you CagWatson I would buy this....

        http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...lkit-ever.html

        This has everything you need..... including access to the leads... plus unlimited support on the forum...

        By far the most Valuable WSO I have ever seen....
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        • Profile picture of the author nofearman
          what have been some of your experiences hiring a call center to generate leads?
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          • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
            Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

            what have been some of your experiences hiring a call center to generate leads?
            Depends... Don't hire call centers that do not speak english as a native language. I can say that.... I tried it... and spent wayyyyy too much money on nothing... No results whatsoever.


            All I can say if you are thinking Phillipines or India...

            "Let me know how that works out for you."

            Unless you are calling the Phillipines or India... then that's different.
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  • Profile picture of the author southbaybones
    Hey Kevin,

    Just Google "Offline on Crack" or just type it into your address bar. Thats what I did

    Bones
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    • Profile picture of the author littleangle
      Hey Southbaybones, I tried to google Offline On Crack but a window pops up that says "you do not have permission..." any other place to find it? Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author southbaybones
        Type

        Telemarketing Free Audio Series

        into your address bar and hit enter.

        Sign up and download
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        • Profile picture of the author onlinevideoguy
          Originally Posted by southbaybones View Post

          Type

          Telemarketing Free Audio Series

          into your address bar and hit enter.

          Sign up and download
          I opted in to access that and it says I dont have permission to access it?? I e-mailed and PM'd John with no response back. I verified my e-mail like I was supposed to. Oh well guess it doesnt work or something
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          • Profile picture of the author southbaybones
            Originally Posted by cagwatson View Post

            Great story!

            FAO John - This lead list you're referring to, could you PM me some details as its something that i would be interested in purchasing..

            Thanks
            Read my original post for how I collect leads. It's not that hard. Just time consuming. But believe you me after I get my first couple of clients, it will be something I outsource.

            Originally Posted by herbaluss View Post

            this is a great story man i'm so ready to start but i want to get a website and logo made first so i look more professional.

            Congrats... and John you are the MAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!
            Thank you. You don't need a website or logo to get started. That's busyness work. Taking action is getting of your butt and actually talking to people. I have a website but right now there is no content on it as I am focusing on getting clients. The website can wait until I get clients.

            Originally Posted by onlinevideoguy View Post

            I opted in to access that and it says I dont have permission to access it?? I e-mailed and PM'd John with no response back. I verified my e-mail like I was supposed to. Oh well guess it doesnt work or something
            Can't help you there. You sure you haven't signed up for it before? Unless John is kind enough to give you the direct download link, I don't know what to tell you.

            Have fun,

            South Bay Bones
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            • Profile picture of the author onlinevideoguy
              Originally Posted by southbaybones View Post

              Read my original post for how I collect leads. It's not that hard. Just time consuming. But believe you me after I get my first couple of clients, it will be something I outsource.



              Thank you. You don't need a website or logo to get started. That's busyness work. Taking action is getting of your butt and actually talking to people. I have a website but right now there is no content on it as I am focusing on getting clients. The website can wait until I get clients.



              Can't help you there. You sure you haven't signed up for it before? Unless John is kind enough to give you the direct download link, I don't know what to tell you.

              Have fun,

              South Bay Bones
              No I havent signed before. Regardless I think John should have the integrity to answer a PM or a e-mail?? Whats up with that man? ya know? Guess he doesnt like me! lol
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            Originally Posted by onlinevideoguy View Post

            I opted in to access that and it says I dont have permission to access it?? I e-mailed and PM'd John with no response back. I verified my e-mail like I was supposed to. Oh well guess it doesnt work or something
            Thanks Peter, yeah thank God I get alot of email, but sometimes it is a bit overwhelming.

            @Onlinevidguy.

            I think my partner Darren may have moved the link so I need to check with him and see why you couldnt download, will get back to you on it asap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
    Southbay that ROCKS.....

    Over at TMF... I see more success stories of guys that start with nothing... than i have seen on all the other forums combined!

    The true sense of altruism... the holding of the hand until you succeed.... You just don't get that anywhere else.

    That is how I got into this biz too....

    The very same script.... the very same method....

    I haven't turned back sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author herbaluss
    this is a great story man i'm so ready to start but i want to get a website and logo made first so i look more professional.

    Congrats... and John you are the MAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brenden Clerget
    Just goes to show you that a little work starts to show you possibilities. Just keep at it, sooner or later, you'll break through!
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    Action trumps everything.

    But I stay away from places like craigslist
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
    Sometimes posts get overlooked....

    Since you originally posted your issue after 9pm and made your last post at 2:30am.... I would have to say he probably hasn't had the chance to even notice it yet... especially since we sleep or spend time with family after 9pm.... well... some of us do anyway.

    I see that he had time to click the thank you button since your Original Post. But that doesn't mean he had the time to read through everything that was posted.

    If I were reading through real quick... I would think you question was answered by SouthBay....

    Just sayin....

    Give a guy a full 24 hours before you assume anything....
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      • Profile picture of the author krzysiek
        Originally Posted by onlinevideoguy View Post

        Yeah I hear ya, guess I can be impatient sometimes. I did send a e-mail on Monday though in normal times! i do understand family stuff I have 3 kids myself. I had a killer job up until 2 years ago and it went away! It was a inbound vacation/telemarketing gig and I was making 1-2grand a week! Life was good. Then it went away! I have 2 houses in foreclosure and my wife and I now have to go Bankrupt unfortunately. I have done previous telemarketing for 18 years so I know I can do the offline marketing gig! I have to do something quick! I know I have a talent but just need to learn the ropes a little in offline telemarketing. I have collectors knocking on my door wanting to sue me and I have become a little depressed cause my bankruptcy hasn't gone under way as of yet! It's like a game of cat and mouse. I know the ole phone can pull me back up again! The phone has made me more money than anything for over 18years now so I need to jump back in! Sorry to sound harsh in my earlier post.
        Not relevant to the thread, but hope it works out for you. Even if you need to learn the ropes, as long as you know how to use Wordpress and use a nice looking theme then I think you can already make sales!
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          Originally Posted by krzysiek View Post

          Not relevant to the thread, but hope it works out for you. Even if you need to learn the ropes, as long as you know how to use Wordpress and use a nice looking theme then I think you can already make sales!
          Thank you! yeah its not relevant to the thread! I am going to delete it! Yes, I can use WP and talk on the phone So I should be fine!
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  • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
    Hey congrats, happy to hear you are succeeding, even I may not agree on cold calling, if it is working for you go ahead and I agree with you on the fact that john Durham post was awesome, keep the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketermatt
    Congratz!!! Great story
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