How to successfully hire your first outsourcer...

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In the offline world, we're often told,
"Outsource! Outsource! Outsource!"

But what if you don't have the slightest
idea how to hire your first worker - or
maybe you're like me and had a terrible
experience at first...

Either way, what I'm about to share with
you will get you a hard working outsourcer
that will go out of his way to make sure
you're happy.

First, head to ODesk.com (My favorite
outsourcing website) and get an account
up and running.

Next, post an ad for what you need (An
SEO guy, backlink creator, content writer,
whatever).

When you've gotten at least a dozen
responses, preferably 2 dozen, send them
all the same message.

Let them know that they've made it to the
second round of hiring, and to proceed you
need a sample of their work.

Send them a short task to complete with
no more than an hour of work.

This should NOT be used just to get free
work, by the way...

You'll likely weed out most of the people
who applied, and only those that will be
willing to put in the necessary effort will
respond after this.

Once you've gotten responses, take the
time to look through them all and see who's
done the best job.

With this technique I've recently (in the
last week) been able to hire an excellent
video guy for a price I would have never
expected.

I can keep this guy busy, full time, without
putting much of a dent in my bank account.

That's what I call successful delegating.
#hire #outsourcer #successfully
  • Profile picture of the author allegrity
    I agree, ODesk.com is a great way to find workers to do tasks for you at a reasonable price.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
    Originally Posted by Chris Ramsey View Post


    Let them know that they've made it to the
    second round of hiring, and to proceed you
    need a sample of their work.

    Send them a short task to complete with
    no more than an hour of work.

    This should NOT be used just to get free
    work, by the way...

    I know what I'm about to say will sound a bit harsh, so let me say I think you're one of the good guys-and have bought from you, but I believe you have not thought this through enough, and when you do, I think (and hope) you will adjust your thinking to reflect that people from privileged countries should pay for any work they request from third world people, even if it is an hour or less. It won't even make a dent in your budget.

    It's a nice sentiment that you shouldn't do this "just to get free work", but you shouldn't be asking for free work at all-regardless of why.

    In my view, that is immoral-basically the rich (by comparison) begging for unearned favors from the poor-in many cases, taking full advantage of the desperation they might feel for the opportunity to work for you.

    Even if you fix it up in your head that it's justified because of the opportunity-that would only apply to the one you hire-the rest are sh** out of luck, and just gave you an hour (or whatever) of work for nothing in return. Spend the freakin $2 and make your own coffee one time, so they can have a meal for the effort they put in at your request (most likely, your cup of coffee is worth a good meal where they live). It is definitely not cool in my book for the rich to beg from the poor, and you needn't do it to have success.

    I've been doing some outsourcing from the Philippines, and it costs me $2 an hour (which is more than many people pay) to hire a variety of workers with various skills there. They are not all up to speed right away, and not all are great or efficient, but the price is so great that I really don't mind having to try out several workers to find one that I really like. I pay them for every hour, and the worst that ever happens is someone takes way too long on a task-but I still get the work done for less than if I hired a fellow American. For example, I had a graphics guy create some custom profiles for me that should have been done in 1/2 a day (I think), but took him closer to a week-so I got it done for about $80-a fraction of the $300 that a fellow American offered it for. When hiring so cheaply, what would otherwise have been a disaster, turns out to be a decent deal-there is so much room for error.

    So don't be cheap and stiff your applicants-you don't have to in order to win at this easy game. The cards are already stacked so far in your favor that you can screw up big time, and still come out in the black, but you can do it with a cleaner conscience if you refrain from asking for freebies-even a small task should be compensated.

    If you feel you must see work samples, simply discard the resumes that don't include them-in my experience, about 1/2 the resumes I receive inlude samples. If I want a sample of something that isn't included, I will hire the best prospects for 1/2 a day-for $8. If your business can't support that, you aren't ready for outsourcing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
      Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

      ...I think (and hope) you will adjust your thinking to reflect that people from privileged countries should pay for any work they request from third world people, even if it is an hour or less. It won't even make a dent in your budget. .
      Greg, maybe I'm misreading Chris's post, but I don't see where he's necessarily or exclusively dealing with people in third world countries.

      Isn't he just asking for a sample of their work product? I ask for the same thing when I hire local people, some right in my neighborhood to help me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Ramsey
        Greg, I can completely see where you're coming from, however, any hiring I do at all, even if it's with local people, will require some sort of proof that they can do what I need.

        Having been a freelancer many, many times over, I've had this exact technique used on myself, and personally, I've never had an issue with it.

        While I can see your point of view, in my mind, it's just another way to weed out those that won't be putting any real effort into the work. I've had far too many bad experiences with outsourcing to do otherwise.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
          Originally Posted by Chris Ramsey View Post

          Greg, I can completely see where you're coming from, however, any hiring I do at all, even if it's with local people, will require some sort of proof that they can do what I need.

          Having been a freelancer many, many times over, I've had this exact technique used on myself, and personally, I've never had an issue with it.

          While I can see your point of view, in my mind, it's just another way to weed out those that won't be putting any real effort into the work. I've had far too many bad experiences with outsourcing to do otherwise.
          Thanks for taking the time to consider my words, but I still can't sanction asking someone to do a task for you to prove what they can do-without compensation. The fact that you had no problem when others asked it of you is no justification at all.

          If it really bothers you to pay for the task you assign as a test, the other more ethical option I offered should work okay too-just toss the applications that don't offer a sample of their work, or request a sample, and ignore those that don't respond. It isn't too hard to find resumes with work samples.

          But when, as you suggested, you give them a specific task to do for you as an audition with no compensation, you are basically acting as a beggar, with a very high likelihood that the donors are much poorer than the beneficiary. Personally, I think begging is fine-when people who really need the help are asking people who are better off to help them survive. The other way around...not so much.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
        Originally Posted by brucerby View Post

        Greg, maybe I'm misreading Chris's post, but I don't see where he's necessarily or exclusively dealing with people in third world countries.

        Isn't he just asking for a sample of their work product? I ask for the same thing when I hire local people, some right in my neighborhood to help me.
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        No, he suggested giving them a task. Asking for a sample is fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    You should also consider these more friendly techniques. Set up filters for the hours they have worked and their ratings. Say more than 200 hours and 4.5 star rating. One problem you will find is these guys (and gals) don't read the job requirements. It wastes your time to read the response and see if they are qualified. So, place a line at the bottom of the job posting that says (or something to this effect) refer to "penguin" in the first line of your response. If the word "penguin" is not in the first line you will be rejected. While this does not qualify them you at least know they read the entire job requirement. If they can't read the requirement and respond accordingly then I think that is a good indicator they are not a fit. I have also talked with many folks who do the test. This is less of an imperialistic approach ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    I am pleased to yet again force someone to spit out their drink.
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