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Creating a WSO for Mobile Marketing- Should a Newbie do this?

by AmarieP
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I, like so many others have spent a ton of money on ebooks, products and everything else in between on IM and offline marketing. I have a computer full of products. (I could open my own online store with everything I have) Here's my problem though, even though I have all these products and have read everything at least 5 times. I still can't seem to go out there and do anything with everything I have learned. I was thinking of creating my own WSO with everything I've learned and take all the fluff and non sense out and just reveal the good stuff, and make it easy for people to understand. I was wondering if that would be a good idea even though I haven't made any money and I guess you could call me a newbie but I have been researching and reading for the past 3 4 years (Yeah I know a long time to just sit on my butt and not do anything). What do you guys think?
#creating #marketing #mobile #newbie #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    i guess if your materials are good they will sell... although personally i would be more likely to purchase something with proven results and someone with a good online reputation....

    saying that this wso author has less than 100 posts but managed to sell over 120 wso in 24hrs give or take am thinking thats about $3k.... i guess post count isn't necessarily an indication of noobiness... or not being able to provide something of use...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...e-reviews.html

    i would me more than willing to invest in your wso if it was going to be of some value to me, although i would possibly be more reluctant to do so at high dollar...

    warriors reviews will be a good indication of whether your wso is good or not

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    • Profile picture of the author octaneinv
      Originally Posted by ukescuba View Post

      i guess if your materials are good they will sell... although personally i would be more likely to purchase something with proven results and someone with a good online reputation....

      saying that this wso author has less than 100 posts but managed to sell over 120 wso in 24hrs give or take am thinking thats about $3k.... i guess post count isn't necessarily an indication of noobiness... or not being able to provide something of use...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...e-reviews.html

      i would me more than willing to invest in your wso if it was going to be of some value to me, although i would possibly be more reluctant to do so at high dollar...

      warriors reviews will be a good indication of whether your wso is good or not

      hth
      That's my WSO and I'm not sure where you get the idea that a low post count mean's I'm a "noobie".

      I've been a keynote speaker in every large city on the east cost, own a full sized marketing firm in New York, I'm writing a book that's being published by one of the largest publishers in the game, and I've got clients all the way from "mom & pop" to the some of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers in the world - but hey, to each his own.

      Anyway, back on track - I wouldn't do it either.

      Spend the time you'd use building a product of rehashed information, and devote it to actually implementing your ideas - then come create a WSO once it's worked.

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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by octaneinv View Post

        That's my WSO and I'm not sure where you get the idea that a low post count mean's I'm a "noobie".

        I've been a keynote speaker in every large city on the east cost, own a full sized marketing firm in New York, I'm writing a book that's being published by one of the largest publishers in the game, and I've got clients all the way from "mom & pop" to the some of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers in the world - but hey, to each his own.

        Anyway, back on track - I wouldn't do it either.

        Spend the time you'd use building a product of rehashed information, and devote it to actually implementing your ideas - then come create a WSO once it's worked.

        Ryan
        I understand what he meant by a low post count being the stereotype of a newbie... I would use the same assumption though.

        No disrespect at all, and I'm sure there are experts here with only a few posts... the thing is though, when you release a WSO and have a low post count, there isn't as much trust. You may not be new at all, but you might be new to us and other members. People have bought my WSO just because I contribute to threads, and do my best to help people either through PM, chat, or phone... I don't think he meant any harm, but there are a lot of warriors that don't buy from people they don't know! Although, that doesn't matter overall since half the people in the WSO forum, aren't even registered here yet, they're just browsing!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
        Originally Posted by octaneinv View Post

        That's my WSO and I'm not sure where you get the idea that a low post count mean's I'm a "noobie".

        I've been a keynote speaker in every large city on the east cost, own a full sized marketing firm in New York, I'm writing a book that's being published by one of the largest publishers in the game, and I've got clients all the way from "mom & pop" to the some of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers in the world - but hey, to each his own.

        Anyway, back on track - I wouldn't do it either.

        Spend the time you'd use building a product of rehashed information, and devote it to actually implementing your ideas - then come create a WSO once it's worked.

        Ryan
        Ryan,

        You mis interpreted what i wrote - i said "i guess post count isn't necessarily an indication of noobiness..." ie although you have limited posts on WF it doesn't necessarily indicate your a NOOB to your niche, i have been on here a minimal amount of time and my post count certainly doesn't indicate my 10+ years experience and success...

        I actually bought your WSO when it was $19 and that had nothing to do with your post count, i was generally interested what you had to offer, the content of your wso obviously shows you are not a noob to your niche and i am glad i bought it if not for the hopes to be able to continue a related discussion offline.

        So i apologize if you thought i was having a dig at you - i wasn't it was far from it!

        as far as a high dollar - had your WSO or if the OP released a WSO that was near a $100 yes i would be more reluctant to purchase without knowing your experience... i think you had mentioned you are selling at $250 for non warriors... i understand you say that many people are buying it at that price but for me i would have a hard time justifying dropping $250 without knowing more about your experience...
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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    I say go for it! If you got a new bike from your uncle at age 7 for Christmas and you were super excited but did not know how to ride this bike and were really nervous that you were going to fall. So your uncle says well, I will buy you some gold pedals that are going to make you learn how to ride faster and guarantee that you would stride a lot easier without a doubt. Would you ride the bike and face your doubts or just wait for the gold pedals?

    Well unfortunately most wait for the golden pedals or ticket to success so to speak that only 3% of us succeed and most never know their full potential falling into that 97% bracket. Right? So moral of the story you just need to go for it and maybe find someone that will venture. Just make sure you have a plan IE video marketing is very effective nowadays so maybe create a course all about mobile marketing using your Camtasia screenshot software and capture some videos that will teach the str8 out the gate newbie exactly what you have learned previously.

    Learn-Implement-Teach! Stop waiting for the golden ticket as I only have about 30 posts but will be launching a similar product that will have people flocking to my thread for this WSO. So if you need any help please feel free to PM me and get ahold of me for further advice. Hope this jibberish helps and you stop waiting for those petals TTYL

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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    So if I did create a WSO I should sell it at a cheaper price? I believe the material would be good and would work (says the reviews I seen). Most of everything I have are from the top gurus with good online presentation. I would put my in my own twists in it with my own ideas and thoughts and make it more simply to understand with examples and videos. I see I'm going to have to come up with a unique approach to this.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    Thanks for the encouragement Jermaine, I don't think I'll be waiting for those petals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    I say absolutely not.

    How do you know what's quality vs what's crap when you haven't tried and tested it? If you knew what worked, you'd have made money from it and what works is often dependent upon the person pushing the offer.

    A WSO like yours is one of the big problems wrong with WSOs now, imo.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Mike Grant View Post

      I say absolutely not.

      How do you know what's quality vs what's crap when you haven't tried and tested it? If you knew what worked, you'd have made money from it and what works is often dependent upon the person pushing the offer.

      A WSO like yours is one of the big problems wrong with WSOs now, imo.
      Yeah, this is one of the worst ideas ever.

      You can't just throw together a WSO and expect it to work, or sell. In fact, judging by your post count, you don't have trust from the rest of the community. Do you have a list interested in the product? No? Then good luck on even breaking even.

      First step, find something that works for you, and you make money at it. Next step, spend about a month or two adding nonstop value to what you plan on selling as a WSO... don't sell it, give it away to build up your email list. Next step, recreate your WSO to add A LOT more value, and then sell it.
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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    No Prob. You are going to get negative feedback in anything you do so you must learn how to do it eventually and not let anyone or anything prevent you from doing well . Whats the worst thats gonna happen some hater is going to "hate" on your product and you have to give them a refund? People are full of discouraging things but people that are successful should share the success and teach others.

    So if you want to do something do it! I never have in my 30 years of life let any control my actions or thoughts so I dont think you should either Peace!

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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    No thank you for the encouragement I actually made an article out of that post..lol Let me know what you think Thanks LuvFoxy
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
      Like they say... those who can do.... and those who can't... teach.

      There are far to many people teaching what they themselves haven't done so how can you expect others to trust you?

      If you are selling your product as unproven theory or fiction that would be ok .

      Why not be like a news reporter and offer reports or a book/video/webinar on what others have successfully done?.... kinda like what Napoleon Hill did!

      Repackaging other peoples products and reselling them as your own is not very cool. I think it would be better if you simply contacted those authors and offer to interview them about what worked for them, record and transcribe the interviews and put them into a report which you can then sell.

      So IMO you should just interview experts, report their results and publish works by experts in their fields but leave the actual teaching to those who have done what they teach.

      Does that make sense?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    You say a WSO like mine but I haven't even created one so how could say that it is crap. How do you know the material I have isn't good. Yes I haven't tested the methods but I know plenty of people who have and it has worked for them. I'm just too lazy to go out and do it. I would rather research and read everything I can and see whats working for others.

    A teacher of a business class doesn't need to make millions of dollars to teach a class, all they do is go to school and learn the material, get a degree and then teach others on what they have learned.

    I know I'm going to have negative feedback and it's okay I have thick skin, but I say thank you for the positive feedback which I think we should all be doing anyways instead of putting others down.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

      You say a WSO like mine but I haven't even created one so how could say that it is crap. How do you know the material I have isn't good. Yes I haven't tested the methods but I know plenty of people who have and it has worked for them. I'm just too lazy to go out and do it. I would rather research and read everything I can and see whats working for others.

      A teacher of a business class doesn't need to make millions of dollars to teach a class, all they do is go to school and learn the material, get a degree and then teach others on what they have learned.

      I know I'm going to have negative feedback and it's okay I have thick skin, but I say thank you for the positive feedback which I think we should all be doing anyways instead of putting others down.
      WOW.... Okay, think about it this way, you're wanting to regurgitate material that you already bought. Bad idea.

      The thing is, here, in this forum with people busting their ass to make ends meet, and to prosper, to have some newbie coming in that hasn't made a single dime and wants to create a WSO for others to use the special techniques never used by the author of the WSO, is BAD and not good business.

      You need to gain respect... you just said that you're too lazy, and that rids all respect you could have possibly received from me.

      If you were to release a WSO without ever having results yourself, you are very likely to lose money. That is a fact.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    Love the post Jermaine, very uplifting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    You already have me interested so pm when it's launched if its good stuff you will get good feedback, credit where credit is due...

    If I could see the potential of an untested theory working from what I know from my own experiences I would know whether or not to run with it or not, not everyone has the resources to be able to put great ideas through to fruitation

    I am taking over a great concept right now but the owner simply didn't have the know how or resources to deliver it, but I have bought it from them as I see the potential it has...
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    Rather than package everything you have bought into a WSO to sell to warriors, go out and share your knowledge with local businesses. Even if you help them for free for awhile, they'll start referring you and soon you'll have success and make money. Otherwise, its just another WSO from someone who has never made any money with XYZ strategies.

    Personally I would rather purchase something from someone who has actually used the system to make money. But that's just me. Your sales letter won't be very convincing without actually doing something. Then again, there are probably alot of warriors that never do anything except buy WSOs, so that would be your market.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    That makes perfect sense Steve, but I wouldn't be repackaging their ideas, most of everything is really common sense. A lot of things I already know how to do, Like set up google place ads, making mobile sites, promoting your business, SMS, etc. but I would basically be targeting newbies or small businesses so they can do it themselves. Of course I would be putting my own spin on things and make it as simple as possible with videos, checklists and templates. I would be also suggesting the products I have used and tried. BTW I don't think any product out there is completely unique, I think they are all revised in some way.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    yeah I had a couple ideas like...

    1. I would target small businesses and educate them on mobile marketing and what it can do for them and how they can do it themselves. Then give then offer them an option of me setting everything up for them for a one time fee.

    2. I would make material for people going to these small businesses to use. Like white papers, small 1-3 page reports on a subject, flyers, promotional templates, etc.

    These were the 2 main ideas I had in my head about who to target.
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    I commend you on asking first... however, wtf?

    You want to make money on theory? Oh, you mean off other newbies?
    By the way, have you noticed most of your support is from other newbies?

    You haven't made any money, because you haven't taken any action.
    Now you are going to teach other people how to make money even though, you don't know that it works from first hand experience?

    That's like trying to teach someone how to fly, even though, you have never been a pilot yourself. Oh, sorry, you know someone that is... ???? WTF?
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    • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
      Hey there again. If you ever need help with your SEO or creating small niche websites let me know ok.o bring in some affiliate commissions This usually works as well to offset the money put into products. You just have to take action bits n pieces every single day. Dp you research well and add value to others. I have been marketing about 2 1/2 years now and for 10 years prior I managed multiple restaurants and for branding reasons lets just say a place where you can get 2 tacos on the latenight for 99c haha.

      But anyways I did this while attending college for business with 3 kids and my 3 nephews for the last year as my sis-in-law passed. I literally would work 12-14 hours in the day get home at 8 Pm and work till midnite every single day for the last about 725 days. Now I must say I only but recently started making enough to work from home full time.

      The one thing I have never done is to pump my brakes and see what others actually think but let's just say I was fortunate enough to support these kids and be able to work full time from home and supplement my $55,000 a year income. SO not riches but enough to pay the mortgage and smile at night when I go to sleep! lol So now you know my life story. haha Anyone can do this with enough support, knowledge, passion, determination,a bit of technical skills, a blog or multiple, a site or two and multiple income streams. Thats it lol. But really just grow it over time and plant the seeds and when the time comes you will know.

      Your Pay-Pal will to. SO it was nice talking to you there AND YOU WILL DO GREAT WILL PROB NEVER LOOK BACK AT THIS POST SO PM WHEN YOU HIT 50 POSTS
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    If you read my other posts you would know I'm not reusing others materials. I'm using what I have learned from them to show others how to do it (the stuff I know how to do and I do well, I just haven't done it for anyone else but me) I'm not going to write a report and use someones else literature and pass it off as my own. I guess I worded this post wrong of what I was really asking and what my plan was.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

      If you read my other posts you would know I'm not reusing others materials. I'm using what I have learned from them to show others how to do it (the stuff I know how to do and I do well, I just haven't done it for anyone else but me) I'm not going to write a report and use someones else literature and pass it off as my own. I guess I worded this post wrong of what I was really asking and what my plan was.
      It doesn't matter, you don't have experience.

      Look, you can use the whole I'm lazy so I'll teach instead of do, but it doesn't work like that. Teachers have real experience. Math teachers have done a lot of math. Professors in law school, have been lawyers. A first grade music teacher, can play music! That whole saying is wrong, and totally inaccurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    I'm not teaching anyone on how to make money. I'm teaching them what I know how to do from reading everything I have read and I have done or tried. Like making mobile websites, setting up QR codes, using promotional products and giving templates of flyers and postcards that i have created, etc. and of course just telling them general knowledge of mobile marketing that anyone would have if they just researched it.
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    Oh yeah Google Profit Snatcher, bonus,,review,bonuses,reviews,what is profit snatcher and we pretty ,much have Google sewn up for the latest Clickbank product PEACE!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    So I guess my years of making websites from html to wordpress and graphic design isn't experience? Just because I haven't done for anyone but myself as a hobby its not good enough? I have made templates of everything from websites to flyers for clickbank products, logos, business cards, etc. I prefer to sit behind a computer instead of going out there talking to people and that's why I consider myself lazy. I have knowledge that a lot of people not in IM don't have and because of that I can't show anybody what I know so they can use it. But I see this isn't going to anywhere but me trying to defend myself and what I'm trying to do. I'm just going to have to do it to prove that I have enough experience to what I want to do.

    Like I keep saying I'm not teaching anyone how to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Hey, No one is saying you shouldn't do a WSO on building a website, or graphic design, or anything like that. If you are good at it, and you've done it, then that's great! A lot of people could learn from you, and you should go for it!

      But what these guys/gals ARE saying is that you shouldn't go out and "pretend" to be an expert at mobile marketing just because you read about it, and how it's done. I could read every book on the planet about Electricity, but that doesn't make me a qualified Electrician. No one would ever hire me to wire their house if I told them I talked to a few Electricians and read some books. Get it?

      You've never done mobile marketing, and admitted it. So your best bet would be to interview someone ( like the guy above said ) and use THEIR experiences as a "behind the scenes" report.

      Anything you've ever done you have 100% rights to create a WSO around, if indeed you consider yourself an expert. Your buyers will let you know if it's crap or not.

      Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

      So I guess my years of making websites from html to wordpress and graphic design isn't experience? Just because I haven't done for anyone but myself as a hobby its not good enough?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
    I understand what your saying and I would never pretend to be an expert at anything if I didn't know anything about the subject but I do. mobile marketing techniques and practices are all the same. Buy any product or WSO on the subject and you will get the same info. The only difference is someone put their own twist on the it but the main idea stays the same, but I get what your saying.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Well, technically, I guess you COULD do it. Best believe there are many others out there doing exactly that. But the problem with it is that in the long run it could easily ruin your credibility. Especially when 1 or more of your customers comes back at you with the TOUGH questions. How will you respond? What if they ask you about your experiences?

      I guess you could always just lie. Or you could just not worry about it like some other IMer's do. The question is... does that sit well with you? Are you able to position yourself as an "expert" from only all your book knowledge with no real-life practice? If it's good for you, then go for it! I'd just warn that it might come back to bite you sooner or later. Maybe not... but you should always prepare yourself!

      Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

      I understand what your saying and I would never pretend to be an expert at anything if I didn't know anything about the subject but I do. mobile marketing techniques and practices are all the same. Buy any product or WSO on the subject and you will get the same info. The only difference is someone put their own twist on the it but the main idea stays the same, but I get what your saying.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

        So I guess my years of making websites from html to wordpress and graphic design isn't experience? Just because I haven't done for anyone but myself as a hobby its not good enough? I have made templates of everything from websites to flyers for clickbank products, logos, business cards, etc. I prefer to sit behind a computer instead of going out there talking to people and that's why I consider myself lazy. I have knowledge that a lot of people not in IM don't have and because of that I can't show anybody what I know so they can use it. But I see this isn't going to anywhere but me trying to defend myself and what I'm trying to do. I'm just going to have to do it to prove that I have enough experience to what I want to do.

        Like I keep saying I'm not teaching anyone how to make money.
        Right... if you aren't doing it professionally, I don't think you have any room to offer a WSO here. I can learn a lot of things too, but I'm not going to offer a WSO unless I know for a fact it adds value, and people couldn't get by without it.

        Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

        mobile marketing techniques and practices are all the same. Buy any product or WSO on the subject and you will get the same info. The only difference is someone put their own twist on the it but the main idea stays the same, but I get what your saying.
        NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!! I make a LOT of money with mobile marketing, I truly believe I am on top of the game in that arena when it comes to mobile marketing. It is obvious you don't have experience, if you think learning techniques and practices will help you make a living at it. I don't know what kind of WSO's you have been getting, but I know for a fact that myself, as well as a few others here take pride in setting ourselves apart from the others. We include information no one else does, or we offer something that adds a lot of value.

        In my opinion, you already are at a disadvantage here... If you were considering releasing a WSO, you need to build up hype, respect, and trust. This, does absolutely the opposite of what you need to do. Not including the fact that people already have released step by step instructions, and they contribute a lot more, and a lot longer than you. So what sets you apart? Can you offer something no one else has? Can you market it yourself? You can't release it expecting sales to come, it doesn't work like that. You need to build a list, build reputation, and market it just like you would any other service, offer, or site. You need to become a war room member, then pay for the WSO listing... and if you don't take the proper steps, you are likely to not break even.

        This is real talk... sorry if you take offense.. I'm not some prepubescent kid or anti social hermit drooling because you're a girl, or at least your avatar suggests that. Anyway, not going to go ahead and tell you to do it, when it just isn't a good idea with your current logic. You have a lot of growing to do, and why should anyone spend money on your future WSO if you don't charge for your services as it is? There are better ways to make money off your hobby, than to blindly release a WSO. It isn't a get rich quick scheme... I DO however, suggest you join the war room, you have potential to learn a lot more, but if you aren't going to use any of it, it will go to waste.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
      Originally Posted by Luvfoxy7 View Post

      mobile marketing techniques and practices are all the same.
      You just showed us exactly why you should NOT create a WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian John
    Just do it.Give the best reasons why people should get it.Get Reviews from experts in the field.If the reviews are good enough, you will sell, if not ... maybe you'll make couple bucks.The reviews make all the sales.
    If you got good content why don't do it?
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