Began the cold calling adventure today

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Hey WF, I have been reading through countless threads in the offline section here on this forum and I can't believe how much information I have found. I've really been motivated by reading stories of others and especially by a book that I read that someone suggest on here, the Science of Getting Rich, great book, if you haven't read I really suggest that you do.

Anyways, what I am doing is cold calling local businesses in my city, I look up businesses in my town on google maps and find the ones that don't have websites, and so I began that today. I called about 10 because something came up today that I had to take care of, and about half said that they were not interested because they couldn't afford a website and I got one guy though that was interested and I emailed him some previous work.

I feel like I need to work hard on my script because I felt like I was stuttering and skipping words, so if someone could give me some advice on what to change, that would be great.

It went something like, "Hi, may I speak to the business owner?", if I got the owner then I would say, " My name is Josh Lucas, and I am a local web-designer from Weatherford and would like to know if you would be interested in a website for your business?" and from there I didn't know what to really , so if someone has some pointers for this 19 year old trying to make a living then feel welcome to say whatever you have to say.

Thank you for your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Brower
    Hey...

    I was just reading this, and have to say that cold calling is really not my specialty; however I have done it in the past and can tell you that one main thing you want to do is not really give the person on the other line a chance to say no to a question that causes the potential sale to end. I would try to use this in a different way...

    You ask them if they are interested in a website...they have no idea who you are, but may have thought of getting a site at one point or another, so you need to figure out a better way in. This is something that may work a little better, as well as start some dialogue to build up for the "pitch" of your service.

    Since you stated that you found businesses locally but did not have a website...that would be what I would try and go after. Something like...

    "Hi, may I speak to the business owner?", if I got the owner then I would say, " My name is Josh Lucas, and I was trying to find some more information on your business but I could not find too much information online...???

    Do you have a website now??? If so what is the address???

    More than likely they will not since you already said you figured out if they have a site or not...that's when you offer them advice or info on the benefits of having a site, but still do this in a way that's not so intrusive to the business owner.

    Maybe something like..."Hmmm, without having something online, I bet other people have tried to find you but also couldn't...have you ever thought about getting small site built for your business so people can find more information...etc."

    If you already know that they do not have a site...then this would be a better way to start talking to them a bit more, and at least get your foot in the door more than just asking if they want a site and giving them the opportunity to say no right from the start.

    Also, start small and upsell more features...no sense in trying to sell a small business a huge "gold plated" package over the phone....get them at least thinking about a site, even if its just something small and then as some more time goes on as well as building a relationship with them that is more than just a cold/sales call you can start to mention other options they can add, etc.

    Just my $.02

    Craig
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  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

    I feel like I need to work hard on my script because I felt like I was
    stuttering and skipping words, so if someone could give me some advice
    on what to change, that would be great.
    I would dump the script and go with some bullet points instead. If you
    rely on a script, your focus is so much on it, you can't be in the flow of
    the conversation as good because you're trying too hard to rely on the
    script.

    Know your information solid to the point where you are comfortable with
    it, then you can "wing it" or "talk on the fly" so to speak without the
    distraction of the script. The bullet points will be a generality of what you
    want to say and if you say something out of line, it's ok because you can
    re-focus and continue where you want to be.

    Another idea is to practice and rehearse your script until you are sick of
    hearing yourself talk. But when you do this, pay attention to what you
    are actually saying in the script. Don't just remember the words of the
    script, but run the meaning through in your mind as you read it so it
    sticks. Once you have knowledge of what you are saying, it's easy to go
    off the script and come back to it if you want it to go that way.

    I've spoken to thousands of people over the phone building certain
    marketing businesses and have experienced $1,000 phone bills before flat-
    rate was popular. I have the experience to know these two ideas have
    worked for me and maybe they can work for you too.

    I'm glad you took yourself out of your comfort zone and picked up the
    phone. Action produces results... and Massive action produces massive
    results! Nothing like killing procrastination but by taking that first step.

    Go for it!

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  • Profile picture of the author jtlucas2511
    Hey thank you guys so much for your replies. I don't know about the first reply, I will probably test that out tomorrow and see how that goes. Thanks eplio.

    Last Warrior, I don't really have a script written down but I just thought of what I wanted to say, but I think I over thought to much so I couldn't really let the conversation flow freely, but I am going to take your advice on making a bullet list, thank you.

    Another question, do you think charging $599 for design is too much or around the right amount? And I want to charge them $24.99 monthly for hosting but how do i set up a recurring payment, I have a paypal, so can I do it with that?

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

      Another question, do you think charging $599 for design is too much or around the right amount? And I want to charge them $24.99 monthly for hosting but how do i set up a recurring payment, I have a paypal, so can I do it with that?
      In my opinion the price matters on how much other services are charging in your area. You'll have to get a feel for that by either looking at the competition's website and see if their prices are listed or perhaps call them and ask about the costs of getting a website.

      As for the $24.99 a month for hosting, that's debatable. Years ago that was about par for hosting. Nowadays hosting is very cheap, much less than $24.99 month. If other consultants are charging that, don't be the low-baller; instead be around what they are charging.(my unsolicited opinion)

      If you go into your PayPal account, on top click on >Merchant Services, then click >Subscribe, then you'll see a drop-down menu that says "Choose a button type". From that click >Automatic Billing or >Installment Plan.

      There you go!

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  • Profile picture of the author coach
    >>Anyways, what I am doing is cold calling local businesses in my city, I look up businesses in my town on google maps and find the ones that don't have websites, and so I began that today. I called about 10 because something came up today that I had to take care of, and about half said that they were not interested because they couldn't afford a website and I got one guy though that was interested and I emailed him some previous work.<<

    First, stop calling people who don't have websites.

    I'm serious. I've found this to be a waste of time, too much convincing needed. Instead, focus on local companies who have yet to claim their Places page in Google. There are still many of them.

    >>It went something like, "Hi, may I speak to the business owner?", if I got the owner then I would say, " My name is Josh Lucas, and I am a local web-designer from Weatherford and would like to know if you would be interested in a website for your business?" <<

    Open the call with a benefit, an irresistible offer that positions you as a source of value.

    Offer a free video on how to sell more of their products and services online. (make a video showing them Google Places) At the end of the video offer them a special deal on Places, Fan Page, etc. Local Social Profits Quick Start - $375.

    Test at least 3 other offers:

    Free video showing how to make Groupon work;
    Free video showing 5 ways to make your local business website sell, etc.

    Hope this helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author James Sides
      Hey there,

      First off CONGRATULATIONS on getting out there and taking action. You're going to get better and better as you continue.

      Second, before moving to the world of online marketing I was in insurance sales and ALL of my business was the result of cold calling so I can tell you a few things that work well.

      First, rather than calling you're going to have more luck in person. It's way too easy for people to hang up or say no when you're not standing in front of them.

      Second, cold calling people without websites is PERFECT (not sure why the person above said otherwise). These are the people you can call on the phone and act as though you were looking for their site but couldn't find it. When they tell you they don't have a site that's the perfect time so bring up your services. Remember, you can sign up as an affiliate at Hostgator free so for every business you set up you're going to be making $50-$125 commission for selling them hosting.

      Just remember, sometimes instead of going into a business and immediately trying to sell em...just introduce yourself and ask them about their business. Explain you're just starting and you just wanted to introduce yourself to the business community. Basically, make friends before you start pitching em on a product.

      Again, just the fact you are doing something puts you LIGHT YEARS ahead of 99% of marketers. You're not a wannabe. You're a professional marketer.

      Take action; Get Rich!

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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

    ....I feel like I need to work hard on my script because I felt like I was stuttering and skipping words, so if someone could give me some advice on what to change, that would be great.....
    I have found that most scripts are usually a work in progress.

    Even when something is working good, you can hit a period of time when it isn't clicking so well. ...I find many beginners actually do get better results starting off in person, rather than by phone.

    Your body language and appearance, and the fact that you are THERE all combine to get you an audience, even if it's brief. You usually get an extra bit of time, just because it's not immediately obvious whether you're a customer or not.

    When I don't mail, my favorite approach is to mention that "....I've driven by here a lot and didn't even notice you were here"...they'll usually respond and then I ask them, "are you online somewhere?..." and see where that takes me.

    It's actually pretty natural, and doesn't pigeon hole me right away as a salesman. ...of course a lot of it is how it's delivered, too. So, in a way it's a 'script' without being a SCRIPT :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author jtlucas2511
    Thank you guys for all the advice, you guys here have really motivated me to start my offline business. I am actually trying to earn $2000 by June 1st because with that I am going to trade in my current vehicle and put a good down payment on a new Camaro convertible so wish me luck
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

      ...so wish me luck
      I am not going to wish you luck, but I do wish when you start hitting some serious road blocks... the kind that make you doubt yourself, or worse, the kind that gets you thinking "this isn't for me", that you find a way to overcome them and press on, continually until you succeed.

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      • Profile picture of the author jtlucas2511
        Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

        I am not going to wish you luck, but I do wish when you start hitting some serious road blocks... the kind that make you doubt yourself, or worse, the kind that gets you thinking "this isn't for me", that you find a way to overcome them and press on, continually until you succeed.

        LastWarrior
        I think I have been at that roadblock for the past few months until I finally found inspiration to make my life what I wanted it to be, and I won't stop until I have it that way.
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        • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
          Go get them young man. Just a couple thoughts that might help
          1. If they are not interested because they think it costs too much , you may want to ask 'HOw much do you think it costs" Many will have no idea but I can tell you any local web design company around here will charge 1k min for a 5 page site. So if you are coming in for about half that they may go for it.
          2.Instead of asking if they would be interested in a website may something that emphasizes the benefits like telling them how many people are searching for x service every month.
          3. I know a guy who does pretty well on redesigns of old ugly sites, that might be an angle to hit some people up with who already have a site.
          4. This is real old school sales technique. Im only half serious about this one but hey here goes Pick out a list of the businesses you are going to call on, say 50 or whatever. For a few days before your "official" call Have friends, or you with a scream voice box, call and mention how you cant find them online. Make a big deal how you are interested but really like to find out about a company first and how you will just check out "his competitor" since they have website. Plant the seeds in there head for a couple-3 days in a row and they when you call BAM PROFIT

          Best to you,
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          • Profile picture of the author Stephen B
            First of all congratulations on taking action! That is the first major hurdle dealt with.

            I agree with Coach in that looking to sell websites is not the way to go ... every man and his mother offers websites.

            What all businesses are looking for is new customers/clients so you need to sell them on the benefit of receiving new customers/clients and the fastest way I have done this is a free video to prove I know what I am talking about and a fully optimised Google Places listing.

            Once they see their video on page one of Google you are the expert.

            Create the video using Animoto and a few images relating to their business, upload it to YouTube and give it a keyword title, put a keyword rich article in the description and watch it rank very quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Brower
      Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

      Thank you guys for all the advice, you guys here have really motivated me to start my offline business. I am actually trying to earn $2000 by June 1st because with that I am going to trade in my current vehicle and put a good down payment on a new Camaro convertible so wish me luck
      I can understand you wanting to build your own business, and I can understand wanting to go out and get a brand new car; however my advice to you at this point...especially at 19...if you are making money with your business...invest it back into your business and get yourself earning a nice residual income that is steady. Investing back in your business will grow that 2000 a month to 4000, 8000, 16,000 and so on. It takes time but will be worth it. At that point then you can think about getting a new car, truck, private jet ...

      I watched the old CEO of my company invest money back into the company to get it to grow...and it worked month after month, year after year. Growth of 30-40% every month on average...think about adding that kind of growth a month to your business!!!

      Start right, start with a roadmap for continual success, and then you can buy things that you want...but think about the long road ahead in your business...thats what I think you need at this point more than a new camaro.

      It's entirely up to you however
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  • Profile picture of the author cchipster
    Goodluck out there! Its a numbers game! Try going off the beaten path and go places your competitors wouldnt! Such as into high rise office buildings or small towns!

    Congrats on getting out of your comfort zone!
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  • Profile picture of the author jtlucas2511
    I see that some of you are telling me not to offer web design but I feel like in my small town that it would work pretty well. I don't know anything about google places or SEO so I don't see how I can really offer something like that. Again, thanks for all the advice
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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
      If you know how to build websites then build websites.

      I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

      I have read on this forum that some have the opinion that if a business doesn't have a website then there is no point trying to sell them one.

      It is therefore a hard sell.

      Maybe they are right but...............every year tens of thousands of new businesses are started and guess what?

      They need websites!

      So target them, not the existers that don't have.

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  • Profile picture of the author ShayB
    Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post


    so if someone has some pointers for this 19 year old trying to make a living then feel welcome to say whatever you have to say.

    Thank you for your time.
    1. How many businesses do you visit? (Pizza places, restaurants, bars, retail stores, etc.) See if any of them need a website or a website upgrade. If they already have a website and they're happy with it, talk to them how important an auto responder is and help them set one of those up.

    2. You say that you are 19. How many of your friends have parents that are business owners? Talk to them about getting a website and/or an auto responder.

    3. How many of your friends' parents are in some kind of Direct Sales (Mary Kay, Tupperware, Silpada, Jordan Essentials) business or a network marketing (Quixtar, Melaleuca, etc.) business? While many of those reps/distributors/consultants do have a replicated corporate website, they also need a personal blog or website so that they can have control over their individual business. ( I can elaborate on that if you would like.)

    4. How many of your friends or their parents are thinking about starting up a business or they have a hobby that they would like to have a blog or website about?

    These are just a few ideas that I can give you to get started. If you work your warm market, you have a much higher closure rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielkanuck
    I think you might want to scrap the whole cold calling thing. Instead, use low-budget direct mail techniques (such as postcard) to gather their contact information, and then follow up on them with your services or a $300 box.

    Cold calling is indeed free, but you're limited by the amount of time in a day to promote your services. Using direct mail, you can contact hundreds of business in only a fraction of a second.

    Another thing to consider is that not every business owner in your city is in need of your services at this point in time. To get a list of available business owners in your city who are looking for information to start a website, rent a mailing list, and narrow in as closely as possible to your ideal prospect. This way, you'll get a high quality list... but it will cost you more than a general list.

    No matter what you decide to do, consider stopping cold calling altogether. I personally think you could make more of an impact if you focused your efforts on online marketing to generate a free lead. Just my 2 pence.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caper224
    Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

    Hey WF, I have been reading through countless threads in the offline section here on this forum and I can't believe how much information I have found. I've really been motivated by reading stories of others and especially by a book that I read that someone suggest on here, the Science of Getting Rich, great book, if you haven't read I really suggest that you do.

    Anyways, what I am doing is cold calling local businesses in my city, I look up businesses in my town on google maps and find the ones that don't have websites, and so I began that today. I called about 10 because something came up today that I had to take care of, and about half said that they were not interested because they couldn't afford a website and I got one guy though that was interested and I emailed him some previous work.

    I feel like I need to work hard on my script because I felt like I was stuttering and skipping words, so if someone could give me some advice on what to change, that would be great.

    It went something like, "Hi, may I speak to the business owner?", if I got the owner then I would say, " My name is Josh Lucas, and I am a local web-designer from Weatherford and would like to know if you would be interested in a website for your business?" and from there I didn't know what to really , so if someone has some pointers for this 19 year old trying to make a living then feel welcome to say whatever you have to say.

    Thank you for your time.
    I feel your pain, I hated cold calling when I first started. come to think of it I still hate it now but I've developed a skill for it. And, let me tell you. The power is in questions!

    " My name is Josh Lucas, and I am a local web-designer from Weatherford and would like to know if you would be interested in a website for your business?"

    ^^^^Horrible, the fact that you got one person to respond positively is amazing to me. And, it was probably one of those people that just struggle to say "no." Remember one key rule about conversing with people in general, "people respond in kind." Meaning if you ask them "would you be interested in a website?" they'll say "no." Its a straight forward question so they gave you a straight forward answer. When telemarketers call u at home randomly and ask "would you like a subscription to dumbass magazine?" you have no problem saying "no, thanks." The good news is its easily fixable. Change your opening statement to a question designed to evoke a positive emotion. examples:

    "Not to take too much time but I was calling to find out if I were to get your business in front of 1000 more people a month could you handle the extra business?"<<----Thats balls out though, if your a little more timid.

    "What would it mean to you if everyone who searched for (their business niche) found you everywhere they looked with tons of glowing reviews praising your business?"

    Those are called "closed questions," you force them to answer the way you them too. It makes closing them easier because any rebuttal they give makes them feel stupid because no business would be opposed to that. It narrows your rebuttals down to " I can't afford your help," and "I think your a scam"<---which takes on many forms(i.e. I already have someone doing SEO, send me some information). Or they'll take the coward route and hand up but I guarantee those opening will get you further into conversion and less hang ups.

    And, the added bonus of a strong opening like that is you can close with simple "what if" closes. example:

    They say, "I can't afford your help?"

    You Say, "I understand that, but let me ask you how much is one new customer worth to you?"

    They say, "ha well like $500 bucks"

    You say, "ok, so what if we started you today for 300 bucks and I guarantee you 2 new customers in 30 days, how easy! would it be to start today?"

    Or

    They say, "I get calls from guys like you all day trying to scam me on this stuff, I'm not interested!"

    You say, "I can understand your frustration, so let me ask you how fair! would you say I am if I agreed to start today for 5 bucks and nothing more until I brought you 1 new client?

    They say, "well, that's pretty fair but why charge me 5 bucks that sound scammy to me? I'm still not interested."

    You say, "I see where your coming from, the 5 dollars is a show of goodwill, I lets me know your square dealing with me as I'm being square dealing with you. So, since you still seem a little uncomfortable what if I brought that goodwill down to 1 dollar today until I brought you at least 1 client, how simple would it be to say yes?

    ^^^Works like a charm every time. See, your goal on a cold call is to get their attention. If you can keep them on the phone with you for at least 2 minutes you've accomplished a successful cold call. The sales will come if you can consistently gain people's interest an keep them on the phone.


    Good luck, and happy offline consulting to you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by Caper224 View Post

      I feel your pain, I hated cold calling when I first started. come to think of it I still hate it now but I've developed a skill for it. And, let me tell you. The power is in questions!
      Wow, you have sales skills! These are good ideas to use in many arenas! Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Caper224
        Originally Posted by Julie McElroy View Post

        Wow, you have sales skills! These are good ideas to use in many arenas! Thanks!
        Its all in repetition
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  • Profile picture of the author social joe
    Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post


    It went something like, "Hi, may I speak to the business owner?", if I got the owner then I would say, " My name is Josh Lucas, and I am a local web-designer from Weatherford and would like to know if you would be interested in a website for your business?" and from there I didn't know what to really , so if someone has some pointers for this 19 year old trying to make a living then feel welcome to say whatever you have to say.

    Thank you for your time.
    Good work Josh, keep taking action - rewards follow. My advice would be as follows;

    • Change your intro to state "Hi my name is Josh Lucas Im a local web-designer...Am I speaking to the business owner?" - In face to face communication, people make judgements about others in 7 seconds or so. Its the same on the telephone, sound cheerful and confident "May I speak to the business owner?" althoug subtle is a little passive. Business owers are straight talking, fairly dominant people. Politely match them!
    • Agree with a previous warrior, use your script as a guide only - you will find that you best interactions with business owners are those that develop organically!
    • Dont try and sell them on the phone, instead showcase your knowledge by giving them a little insider info (Keyword search numbers) and aim to inspire them to meet with you. This is where you build rapport and selling becomes a doddle!
    Get your first client and do your best to draw as many referrals from him as possible. Offer a cash incentive etc.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian John
    @Caper224 You really know your stuff. I might use some of your script and some of the way you handle the objections and i shall make an "script" and maybe i will eventually close someone on the phone.Thanks for sharing
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    • Profile picture of the author Caper224
      Originally Posted by banditu View Post

      @Caper224 You really know your stuff. I might use some of your script and some of the way you handle the objections and i shall make an "script" and maybe i will eventually close someone on the phone.Thanks for sharing
      Thanks, its not hard. Once you understand the psychology of it. It becomes very simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
    hi

    you already have lots of comments here, and long ones, so i will be breif. I have worked in marketing and unfortunately in telemarketing ... and this is how I would go with it.

    If you don't have the owners name, you are very likely to get blocked by gate keepers. Find it out first. and people don't buy websites they buy solutions so you need to talk lead generation, sales funnels or anything else that a particular industry is going to understand. when they talk costs you need a script for overcoming objections, which will most likely be that it is comparable to placing yellow pages ads and people can find them 24 seven.

    Scripts are vital for when you are starting out and until you get confidence to go it on your own.

    good luck. all you really need to do is get past the gate keepers to have a chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
    Good for you! I shudder at the thought of cold-calling. Many people have better luck in person. As far as price, I would say throw in hosting for free the first year - $24.99 is a lot unless it is a dedicated server, which most new sites will not need. Since I do not know your design and web skills I can't speak much to the $599 - seems like a lot?!? what does that include?

    Lastly, with cold calling only coming from someone on the other end, start off by telling them you are local and would love a chance to meet with them to talk about their business site and local exposure online. If I know someone lives in the same town, I am probably more likely going to pause and listen.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtlucas2511
    Well guys, I have actually hired someone to do the cold calling for me and I have a couple of appointments already so I am pretty excited. I am still finishing up on my website and setting up the payment methods, but like someone said above, $599 is a lot, and that's why I want to offer a good amount to the businesses. So what would be some things that I could include in that design price, besides custom logo and banner creation?
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    • Profile picture of the author Can Tonic
      Originally Posted by jtlucas2511 View Post

      Well guys, I have actually hired someone to do the cold calling for me and I have a couple of appointments already so I am pretty excited. I am still finishing up on my website and setting up the payment methods, but like someone said above, $599 is a lot, and that's why I want to offer a good amount to the businesses. So what would be some things that I could include in that design price, besides custom logo and banner creation?
      Wow. You started 5 days ago making cold calls and you are directly outsourcing it? Before outsourcing that part you should exactly know, what the fears and desires of your customers are. First write down a FAQ and get more experience before outsourcing it. That's what I would recommend...
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