Twilio cuts prices in HALF on SMS sending

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FYI:

I just got an e-mail from Twilio saying they've cut their SMS send prices in half, reducing the cost to send an SMS with Twilio from 2 cents to 1 cent. That means SMS texting is now 1 cent EACH way with Twilio.

Most of you know I use Twilio and am pleased with their service, and NO, I am not affiliated with Twilio in any way (other than being a happy customer).
#cuts #half #prices #sending #sms #twilio
  • Profile picture of the author allegrity
    Yes, I have also gotten this e-mail. I plan to use Twilio for my SMS services once I get those clients. There are nice scripts and apps you can use as front ends that I found that you can use for SMS marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author warbler
      Originally Posted by allegrity View Post

      Yes, I have also gotten this e-mail. I plan to use Twilio for my SMS services once I get those clients. There are nice scripts and apps you can use as front ends that I found that you can use for SMS marketing.
      Allegrity--I'm using OpenVBX for an SMS marketing test. If all goes well, I'm going to develop my own (I can code it in PHP and jQuery, but I'll probably outsource). What open source or low-cost scripts have you found? I'd love to find front end that I can customize.

      Steven Carl Kelly--Thank you for all your contributions to this forum--I especially appreciate your insights on SMS marketing. Please let me know if I can help you in anyway with your front end.
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  • Profile picture of the author philboy uk
    Is there anyone in the UK using Twilio ?
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    • Profile picture of the author greenjag
      I have signed up to Twilio and hope soon to start sms services to restaurants and bars etc. Have you had experience with sms marketing? Would be good to share info on this ))
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  • Profile picture of the author SoftInfluence
    Yes, I love twilio. It's the only service I've used where the price keeps dropping. I wish they had an affiliate program although there's probably not much room in their pricing to pay a commission.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
      Originally Posted by SoftInfluence View Post

      Yes, I love twilio. It's the only service I've used where the price keeps dropping. I wish they had an affiliate program although there's probably not much room in their pricing to pay a commission.
      You're right... but I'd rather pay less to service my SMS marketing clients than to worry about landing a commission! Also, I've found another brilliant use for Twilio that is quick, easy money (though not a long-term recurring revenue source).
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      • Profile picture of the author allegrity
        Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

        You're right... but I'd rather pay less to service my SMS marketing clients than to worry about landing a commission! Also, I've found another brilliant use for Twilio that is quick, easy money (though not a long-term recurring revenue source).
        Do you mind sharing that use, SCK?
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
          Originally Posted by allegrity View Post

          Do you mind sharing that use, SCK?
          Creating local numbers for phone verified accounts (PVA's). Many people who value their privacy don't want to give out their real numbers to services that do phone verification. With Twilio, I can provision a local number in their area code for $1.00 and provide 60 minutes/60 texts for another 60 cents. Incoming calls and texts are forwarded to the phone number of their choice. My cost is $1.60, I can resell for as much as $10.00 each for one month, or they can keep the number and pay $7.95 for each month.

          Take care, however, that a lot of BHers look for these sorts of offers, so you will want to make certain that you don't sell these in bulk to one person. Limit the number of these accounts that a single buyer can have to perhaps three or so in order to provide a legitimate privacy service and to avoid becoming a haven for the BH users.
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          • Profile picture of the author greg2200
            Is twilio white label?
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          • Profile picture of the author thattori
            Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

            Creating local numbers for phone verified accounts (PVA's). Many people who value their privacy don't want to give out their real numbers to services that do phone verification. With Twilio, I can provision a local number in their area code for $1.00 and provide 60 minutes/60 texts for another 60 cents. Incoming calls and texts are forwarded to the phone number of their choice. My cost is $1.60, I can resell for as much as $10.00 each for one month, or they can keep the number and pay $7.95 for each month.

            Take care, however, that a lot of BHers look for these sorts of offers, so you will want to make certain that you don't sell these in bulk to one person. Limit the number of these accounts that a single buyer can have to perhaps three or so in order to provide a legitimate privacy service and to avoid becoming a haven for the BH users.

            SCK or anyone.......What is "Bhers" stands for?
            Thanks
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            • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
              Originally Posted by thattori View Post

              SCK or anyone.......What is "Bhers" stands for?
              Thanks
              It usually stands for black h*a*t*t*e*r*s.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael William
            Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

            Creating local numbers for phone verified accounts (PVA's). Many people who value their privacy don't want to give out their real numbers to services that do phone verification. With Twilio, I can provision a local number in their area code for $1.00 and provide 60 minutes/60 texts for another 60 cents. Incoming calls and texts are forwarded to the phone number of their choice. My cost is $1.60, I can resell for as much as $10.00 each for one month, or they can keep the number and pay $7.95 for each month.

            Take care, however, that a lot of BHers look for these sorts of offers, so you will want to make certain that you don't sell these in bulk to one person. Limit the number of these accounts that a single buyer can have to perhaps three or so in order to provide a legitimate privacy service and to avoid becoming a haven for the BH users.
            That idea is a nice WSO in itself...
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
              Originally Posted by Michael William View Post

              That idea is a nice WSO in itself...
              And yet I'm giving it away here for free! LOL...
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              • Profile picture of the author Spiritman
                Guys...Twilio uses long codes.

                You can't send group texts on long codes...the carriers won't allow it.

                You might get away with sending them for a while but...(just like using SMTP might work for a while)

                So if you're doing marketing and doing Group texts you need short codes.

                Just saying.

                I don't want you to go build a whole business model on something that's going to break.

                Spiritman
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                • Profile picture of the author Michael William
                  Originally Posted by Spiritman View Post

                  Guys...Twilio uses long codes.

                  You can't send group texts on long codes...the carriers won't allow it.

                  You might get away with sending them for a while but...(just like using SMTP might work for a while)

                  So if you're doing marketing and doing Group texts you need short codes.

                  Just saying.

                  I don't want you to go build a whole business model on something that's going to break.

                  Spiritman
                  From the posts I have seen so far about long codes and openVBX no one seems to be having a problem with them. Where do you get your info?

                  Also, you might want to renew your domain in your sig, it is expired.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Spiritman
                    This is copied directly from a customer service email from Twilio.

                    Renee Chu, Jun-06 12:52 pm (PDT):

                    Hi ,

                    Actually, standard SMS messages via Twilio are sent via a long code. We do have an SMS short code beta program, which you can learn more about here: Twilio Cloud Communications | Web Service API for building Voice and SMS Applications

                    Long code phone numbers aren't necessarily less reliable than short codes when it comes to SMS delivery. The issue is, long codes are reserved for peer-to-peer communications. If your app entails sending a large volume of messages from a single phone number, I do not recommend using a long code, since carriers may filter out messages sent from long codes that look alike.

                    Twilio does not use an SMTP email gateway to deliver SMS. Instead, we have a direct connection with the carriers, and you can make HTTP requests and interface with them through us via our API.

                    Let me know if you have any further questions.

                    Sincerely,
                    Renee

                    Do your homework boys and girls!

                    Thanks for the heads-up re the domain...(better start paying attention to those Godaddy emails )
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                    • Profile picture of the author Spiritman
                      Both long codes and short codes are included as SMS.

                      There's nothing wrong with long codes..for the proper use i.e appointment confirmations, restaurant reservations etc

                      Plus you can get better keywords with long codes.

                      And in case you're wondering...I don't have anything to sell...no super duper consultant toolkit and pending WSO.

                      I didn't know jack about any of this stuff until I recently started doing my own research...which included reading some threads here on the Warrior forum.

                      My only motivation was exactly as I said...to warn folks to make sure they get the details before they go build a business, get clients, set prices based on long codes (which are cheaper than short code) and then find out it's broken or they have to switch to short codes and end up losing money...
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                • Profile picture of the author scarab
                  Wrong on that point. Very wrong. Twilio does indeed allow sending Text messages to groups, you just have to develop the platform(software thru the API)
                  In fact you can do anyhing with their gateway you can program.
                  We send individual txts
                  We send group Txts
                  We send scheduled txts
                  We send scheduled group txts
                  We send appointment reminder txts
                  We send specialized group txts
                  We send txts to complete lists of numbers

                  How, we spent 6 months developing and debugging our program in house and it rivals anything else out there. Several Warriors have done the same.
                  If you want to be able to do this and resell all you have to do is:
                  1)Develop your own platform
                  or
                  2) Contact one of use Warriors that have developed and own our own systems.

                  If you are interested in what I have to offer send me a PM and I will get back to you and we can set up a demonstration.

                  Don't speak about Twilio if you don know the API. They are the best and you won't get those rates from anyone else unless you have the Uber connection to the Telco.
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          • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
            Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

            Creating local numbers for phone verified accounts (PVA's). Many people who value their privacy don't want to give out their real numbers to services that do phone verification. With Twilio, I can provision a local number in their area code for $1.00 and provide 60 minutes/60 texts for another 60 cents. Incoming calls and texts are forwarded to the phone number of their choice. My cost is $1.60, I can resell for as much as $10.00 each for one month, or they can keep the number and pay $7.95 for each month.

            Take care, however, that a lot of BHers look for these sorts of offers, so you will want to make certain that you don't sell these in bulk to one person. Limit the number of these accounts that a single buyer can have to perhaps three or so in order to provide a legitimate privacy service and to avoid becoming a haven for the BH users.
            All those people asking about pva's for criagslist, so they dont get ghosted or blocked, just got the best tip of there life... and prob wont even read your post.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
              Actually I purchase a platform for twillo that I hope to start using. Its WORDPRESS. Just do not understand sms. is there a good tutorial anywhere?
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            • Profile picture of the author diva3106
              Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

              All those people asking about pva's for criagslist, so they dont get ghosted or blocked, just got the best tip of there life... and prob wont even read your post.
              ^^^ was thinking the same thing when I read it ; )
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    Yes, that was good news from Twilio. My profit went up 50% and I didn't even have to ask! Twilio makes it very cost-effective to offer up SMS services to your clients. Use OpenVBX and give them custom apps that integrate voice and SMS. They'll love you.
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    • Profile picture of the author winston
      Anyone familiar with smsified.com? I ran across this while looking for more twilio scripts.
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  • Profile picture of the author lewistrio2
    Does twillo use short or long codes? how much do they charge for keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
      Originally Posted by lewistrio2 View Post

      Does twillo use short or long codes? how much do they charge for keywords?
      Twilio uses local phone numbers ($1 per month each), although they recently rolled out short codes, but they are pretty expensive. For local businesses, a local phone number works fine, and is actually preferable in my opinion rather than a short code. A short code can't be used as a phone number so people can subscribe by making a phone call, and it certainly can't be directed to ring the businesses main line, or having a directory of choices either. Twilio and OpenVBX have much more flexibility than a short code.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brazilraider
    anyone know of a service that can be used in Brazil?
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  • Profile picture of the author allegrity
    I've never heard or something like that? So you have to have a shortcode for SMS marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    All of clients are set up on long codes with Twilio. All of them send bulk texts through out platform which leverages the Twilio API using the front end we custom built.

    So far, no issues regardless of volume. But I should also qualify that to say that we also don't have any clients sending more than 100,000 messages at a time.
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    • Profile picture of the author 21clg
      So would you still say that as along as each client has their own long code number we would be safe?
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      • FYI: I believe autoresponse plus has hinted at including sms features (via api with another provider like twilio) as well as voice broadcasting as well via api... not sure if they will but the new release set for november 1st is a complete rewrite in php of the platform and will include amazon ses support. I am definately pretty excited about it as my license will be upgraded...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    SCK - just curious what's the biggest list your sending too using twilio?
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  • Profile picture of the author 21clg
    @Steven Carl Kelly

    Can you email me at mrselfexpression -a .t - gmail ???

    I want to setup Twilio and OpenVBX and would be willing to pay someone to set it up for me.

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author scarab
      OpenVBX is a great learning tool and one for self use. If you want to resell to clients etc it is very very limiting.

      Either resell someone elses platform, develop your own or purchase whitelabel capabilities.

      We can sell our code and whitelable it as well.
      Send PM for details
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      • Profile picture of the author 21clg
        Originally Posted by scarab View Post

        OpenVBX is a great learning tool and one for self use. If you want to resell to clients etc it is very very limiting.

        Either resell someone elses platform, develop your own or purchase whitelabel capabilities.

        We can sell our code and whitelable it as well.
        Send PM for details
        Im very interested, but cant PM yet - could you email me directly at:
        mrselfexpression -a .t- gmail ?

        I already successfully installed OpenVBX and set it up, now I just need to get it looking and working good from a front-end.

        thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author IMguy123
        Are there frontends already available for sale that are built using OpenVBX?
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      • Profile picture of the author IMguy123
        Originally Posted by scarab View Post

        OpenVBX is a great learning tool and one for self use. If you want to resell to clients etc it is very very limiting.

        Either resell someone elses platform, develop your own or purchase whitelabel capabilities.

        We can sell our code and whitelable it as well.
        Send PM for details
        This certainly sounds interesting...please pm if you see this post.
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      • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
        Originally Posted by scarab View Post

        OpenVBX is a great learning tool and one for self use. If you want to resell to clients etc it is very very limiting.

        Either resell someone elses platform, develop your own or purchase whitelabel capabilities.

        We can sell our code and whitelable it as well.
        Send PM for details
        Funny, I find the opposite is true. Customization is the key to not becoming a commodity and I find you can do much more with OpenVBX than an out of the box texting platform. But that's just me I guess.
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        • Profile picture of the author 21clg
          Hello. Does anybody know if and HOW I can track the amount of texts being sent through my Twilio setup (through OpenVBX)???

          I just need a simple way to tell how many texts are being sent by whom, so I can know how many outgoing texts a particular client is sending (I have flows setup to where if a text comes in from a certain number than it gets blasted to the whole list, a simple way to compose and send a blast without having to login to a front end dashboard)

          any other analytics solutions that are more comprehensive?
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          • Profile picture of the author javarog
            Originally Posted by 21clg View Post

            Hello. Does anybody know if and HOW I can track the amount of texts being sent through my Twilio setup (through OpenVBX)???

            I just need a simple way to tell how many texts are being sent by whom, so I can know how many outgoing texts a particular client is sending (I have flows setup to where if a text comes in from a certain number than it gets blasted to the whole list, a simple way to compose and send a blast without having to login to a front end dashboard)

            any other analytics solutions that are more comprehensive?
            I asked the same thing,, you will have to make that plugin yourself,, twilio has the analytics you would need to import it to openvbx
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  • Profile picture of the author LuxMan
    Anyone notice that they went from 1 Cent per SMS, which now costs ~$0.75 per SMS? Twilio SMS Pricing - Pay as you go for SMS and text messaging or am I looking at the wrong pricing/page? I don't understand how it goes from 1 cent to 75 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    It looks like it's 3/4 of one cent not 3/4 of one dollar.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
    Nexmo is $.006/msg US
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    • Profile picture of the author SoftwareGeek
      Plivo.com, a Twilio competitor, recently reduced their prices across all their APIs as well. We use Plivo as the telephony API provider for our business. We are very happy with the call quality and the way they scale to large call loads.

      https://plivo.com/blog/announcing-pr...sa-and-canada/

      We are considering reducing our price as well because the APIs are getting cheaper in our space.
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