New SMS Marketing Player

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There is a new player in the SMS marketing and I think they could be really good as I have been talking with them over the last few months.

Jay and Chris are holding some free tutorials so check them out.

Mainly for US and Canada. Some of their prices are the best on the market.


Quentin
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  • Profile picture of the author mix_daylee
    I've tried using them but they make you jump through so many loopholes via "training/ webinars".
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    • Profile picture of the author rainingproblems
      Originally Posted by mix_daylee View Post

      I've tried using them but they make you jump through so many loopholes via "training/ webinars".
      Aside from that, i'd be curious to know how they are....(I'd personally prefer short codes to long codes though)
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      • Profile picture of the author zenyatta
        I am also avoiding the long code sellers. Since the carriers aren't getting paid they don't have any incentive to get your messages delivered let alone in a timely manner. When I am broadcasting 1000+ text messages for a restaurant before lunch or dinner time I need them to go out in seconds and minutes not a limited amount every hour for the next few hours. Just my thoughts.
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        • Profile picture of the author Peter Livingston
          Originally Posted by zenyatta View Post

          I am also avoiding the long code sellers. Since the carriers aren't getting paid they don't have any incentive to get your messages delivered let alone in a timely manner. When I am broadcasting 1000+ text messages for a restaurant before lunch or dinner time I need them to go out in seconds and minutes not a limited amount every hour for the next few hours. Just my thoughts.
          I detest those long codes as well..
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  • Profile picture of the author stone2010
    yea long codes definitely don't work as effective as shot codes i agree
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    • Profile picture of the author TheLocalCoach
      Actually Long Codes are much more effective than Short Codes! I've said this before, both have their place in the market, and appropriate uses.

      First, Long Codes have BETTER deliver ability than most Short Codes (I've yet to find a Short Code set up with all 100+ wireless carriers in the US). Long Codes are not carrier specific, so they deliver at 100%. We have clients, especially in certain parts of the country, who get hundreds of complaints every time they try to get opt-ins because the Short Codes aren't set up with the smaller regional carriers.

      Secondly, if you're buying Keywords, and using only one or two Keywords per business, than you just aren't being an effective marketer. Building one big list for a business is silly...no segmentation, no customization and no relevancy for customer niches. When every business has Unlimited Free Keywords, they can use a different Keyword in every print ad (track ROI), Realtors can use multiple Keywords for EACH house (again tracking where responses are coming from), stylists and bartenders can build their own clientèle lists using their first names as Keywords, etc.

      Yes, Long Codes are slower, so in some cases, Short Codes are better, like if you need to broadcast a weather alert or run a TV ad or get a baseball stadium to opt-in all at once. Otherwise, there's no comparison, Long Codes are better for most small businesses. We offer both Long and Short Codes, but 98% of our small business clients never use a Short Code, even though they have the option.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    We've been using long codes for quite some time now and have no intention of changing. So far, they've been working extremely well for us and, more importantly our clients, through Twilio.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    Shortcodes have to be allowed by the carrier and many do not activate them whereas longcodes are accepted over all carriers as they are not optional.

    Another way to do it is keywords which are also accepted across all carriers but just a little bit more work for the subscriber initially plus they dont cost extra.

    Keywords like shortcodes let you assign different subscriber to different lists.

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
      Originally Posted by Quentin View Post

      Another way to do it is keywords which are also accepted across all carriers but just a little bit more work for the subscriber initially plus they dont cost extra.
      One of the big benefits to us (and consequently, our clients) is that since we use long codes (or, more accurately, local telephone numbers) we can assign the same keyword to multiple businesses. For instance, we have many pizza places among our client list, and most of them use the most popular keyword ("FREEPIZZA"). In addition, since each business has their own local number, our service works for them even if the customer sends the wrong keyword. So for our clients, if a customer sends a misspelled keyword (FREPIZZA, FREEPIZA, FREE PIZZA, FREE-PIZZA, PIZZAFREE, etc) or even no keyword at all, it will STILL work for them. Of course with shared short codes, multiple businesses can't use the same keyword, and misspellings may not be properly handled.

      That's not to say that so-called longcodes are always better than shortcodes. Shortcodes are usually more memorable, which is a big advantage if you need the customers to later remember the code and use it. In our case, most of the sign-ups come from a customer who is looking at POS materials right there at the business location, so remembering the code isn't much of an issue for our clients.

      I know there's plenty of debate on both sides of the long/short issue, but I think there's room for both and particular instances that work better for one or the other. In our case, we find so-called longcodes to be the best fit for most of our customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sondor
    I only have a minute, but wish to chime in that I've settled on Yeez as the provider of choice for any client needs that revolve around SMS.

    As for short-codes vs. long-codes, it's a huge topic, so I'll simply interject my opinion and say that short-codes aren't what 99% of us need.

    The fact that SMS is such a complicated topic really cracks me up. If you'd have told me a month ago that I'd spend over 50 hours (honestly, I have!) looking into providers and such, I would have laughed my a$$ off!
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  • Profile picture of the author mix_daylee
    how do you delete keywords on yeez text? there's no delete button.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlueMax06
    Is yeez still in business?

    I have been calling for a couple of days and only get the voice mail with no reply.

    I went the the startup webinar this morning and no one showed.

    Anyone know what is going on?
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    • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
      Originally Posted by BlueMax06 View Post

      Is yeez still in business?

      I have been calling for a couple of days and only get the voice mail with no reply.

      I went the the startup webinar this morning and no one showed.

      Anyone know what is going on?
      No idea what's going on there, but to add to the longcode vs shortcode argument, the number one reason why people will go with shortcodes, are that they are much easier to market!

      Trumpia offer's shortcodes by default, however we allow for longcodes if requested due to the above listed reasons: unique number, wide range of keyword selection, slightly cheaper than shortcodes.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheLocalCoach
        Sorry for the YeeZ webinar snafu, we had a technical issue launching GoToWebinar the other day. I can assure you, YeeZ is very much in business and playing catch up on a recent flood of inquiries.

        As usual, Steven articulates well the issues surrounding long and short codes. We agree, there is a place for both. If you see people dismissing long codes, its merely from a lack of knowledge. If you do the research, the advantages (again, in most small business situations) are many.

        Having only one or two Keywords per business just isn't smart marketing. It's like having no segmentation in your direct marketing or email lists. For that reason alone, every business should have their own long code, just like they have their own fax line. And fortunately, every business can afford their own long code.
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  • Profile picture of the author ASUService
    I consider myself an "informed noob" with regard to this topic so all I can offer is my opinion.

    I prefer long codes for the same reasons Steve Carl Kelly mentioned. Additionally is cost. Sure most services include a keyword or two with initial setups but most of those I looked at charge from there. With the long codes I have experience with (not many mind you) the keywords are unlimited.

    Just my $.02
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  • Profile picture of the author BlueMax06
    I should have been back sooner to answer my own question about Yeez.

    Like Jay stated, yes, they are very much in business and have been covered up handling questions and webinars.

    I have signed up and am very busy getting ready to launch my own business using the full set of tools that they provide.
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