Local Hosting Question

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So this last week, I did some research on my local area and found that a lot of small businesses don't have anything for an Online Presence. Perfect chance to swoop in and help my local area get out of this slump market (Gotta love resort areas with dead seasons).

So I have my services planned out. I have a website created to promote the services I offer. I am even working on a Local Directory, which will be finished after this rain finally dies down and I can get some nice photo's of our local landscapes.

So heres where I have gotten stuck. I am getting a Hosting Reseller account, which I will use as an extra income source that should last as long as my services. Problem is, I don't know how much "Disk Space" and "Bandwidth" to offer for a local business, or how much to charge for the determined space.

Any suggestions for this would be greatly welcome. Thanks in advance!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior Ben
    For local businesses, you don't really need to have a ton of disk space or bandwidth because in all reality they aren't going to get traffic like Facebook or Google does.

    With that said, I would recommend giving them 1,000 GB of monthly transfer and 100 GB of storage. This will be more than enough for web traffic and e-mail. If they grow to where they are using more than that then you can just upgrade them to another plan.

    Another option besides being a reseller is to just sign up as an affiliate and you can earn an affiliate commission on signing them up for hosting (and a commission on the monthly recurring) and then you don't need to worry about all the plan sizes-- you can just resell the plans that are already in existence at other hosting providers.

    I hope this helps!

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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Hi mate

    You can just clone what small (but honest + reliable) hosting companies do and offer same type of package, same space and bandwidth, etc.

    I personally buy a new server (2GB space, email + traffic unlimited) and customers pay me annually their hosting fee from 150$ year. Each customer on their hosting plan. It cost me less then 60$ year and they have plenty of space for everything, no problems whatsoever with bandwidth, etc etc.

    Oh and the local directory idea... Kudos. It's a neat way to get you going, trust me.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulFL
    Personally, I wouldn't make it an issue. If they don't even have an online presence and you start talking about bandwidth, I think you'll just confuse things.

    Just charge monthly hosting fee. Unless some site hits the stratosphere, the odds of them using much bandwidth or space is pretty remote.
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    • Profile picture of the author fitz10
      Originally Posted by PaulFL View Post

      Personally, I wouldn't make it an issue. If they don't even have an online presence and you start talking about bandwidth, I think you'll just confuse things.
      I tend to agree with this. Fold the cost into your ongoing monthly consulting fee and it will give that much more incentive to keep you on as a consultant on an ongoing basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author BackLinkingNinja
    My angle is to offer them a 'free site' as part of my monthly fee (after the initial research, design and build cost-plus making sure you have a profit on your fixed costs). This will have high perceived value plus it makes it harder for someone else to creep in the back door and steal your client. I wouldn't scare them with anything technical, you can always offer to 'upgrade' their space if traffic starts flying - have a look at competitor sites, assess from Google External Keyword Tool an 'idea' of search volume and explain these things take time to establish themselves and settle down to produce steady traffic. Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    First, there is absolutely no way I would ever sign a small local business up for 100gigs of web space, and 1 terabit of bandwidth. I don't use that much with my Affiliate sites, and I have lots of them (Close to 100).
    Second, there is no way I would refer them through my affiliate link. Why would I want to get paid one time for a customer that I might be working with for the next 1-10 years? $125 (If you sign up 21 people per month)... Or, I could sign them up for say $20 per month, and make a huge profit if they stay longer than 6 months (Which they should or I'm not doing my job properly). Also, I am not 100% on getting 21 clients per month, which means I wouldn't even make $125...
    Third, most Web Hosts will cancel your account if you sell webspace without a reseller account. In another thread, someone posted part of the TOS from Hostgator (which I use frequently) and it reads as follows...

    here it is straight from HostGator.

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    11.) Shared (non-reseller accounts) / Semidedicated Servers
    Shared accounts may not resell web hosting to other people, if you wish to resell hosting you must use a reseller account. Semi-dedicated servers are not backed up. You must maintain your own backups.


    The Business plan provides a free toll-free number for your web site and business. Minutes Included Per Month: 100 -- Additional Minutes: 4.9 Cents. Included minutes are based on a calendar month. By default, you'll be able to receive calls from US callers only. You can enable calls from Canada in your control panel, but will be billed 6.9 cents per minute for all calls from Canada due to the increased costs of providing service there. This service is provided and supported by Voipo for new HostGator clients.


    *Please note: Toll-Free numbers issued must be called at least once every 30 days. Toll-free numbers with 0 calls in a 30 day period will be considered inactive and disconnected. If you cancel your hosting package with HostGator or switch to a plan other than the business plan, your toll-free number will be disconnected unless you contact VOIPo to change to a paid service plan prior to the HostGator cancellation.


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    HostGator WILL suspend and terminate your account, has happened to me before. It's NOT worth the risk. Try explaining to your client's you were actually taking the cheap way out and lost all their websites for at least a day if not more.
    Thanks for all the advice that has been given. I'm going to continue contemplating this, and checking busy websites I already own in order to estimate what a small business might need for space.
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  • Profile picture of the author RentItNow
    I was actually surprised at my potential clients knowledge of webspace rental costs. In some cases they didnt even know what a webhost was but they knew they are not going to pay more than X dollars a month or year for it. Ask a couple owners, they'll tell you sort of the going rate.

    What I do is tell them $25/mn whether they have a host or not because I am adding a few updates with that $25 (or i say "google analytics" reports for free with it -- anything that adds value.)
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
    Teravel: It's not the space you need to be concerned about. It's the bandwidth in case a big boy tweets them or something like that.

    I have my clients get their own hosting at HostGator.com. The reseller thing isn't as good as it sounds for a variety of reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    I usually set them up with 500 mb of space and 2 gig of data and most local businesses will not go over this. You can upgrade it any time.

    Remember your monthly fee is not just for their hosting it will be also for upgrades to their site like upgrading wordpress and plugins if you use that system, doing a offline backup for them, adding value like google analytics etc, managing their email accounts and so on.

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    • Profile picture of the author sprks79
      Originally Posted by Quentin View Post

      I usually set them up with 500 mb of space and 2 gig of data and most local businesses will not go over this. You can upgrade it any time.

      Remember your monthly fee is not just for their hosting it will be also for upgrades to their site like upgrading wordpress and plugins if you use that system, doing a offline backup for them, adding value like google analytics etc, managing their email accounts and so on.

      Quentin

      This is exactly what I do. Most small businesses will never grow beyond this point. As far as the monthly fee, Quentin hit it right on the head. It is for much more than simply hosting. Upgrades, reports, email, basic "support and service" type things. I offer the same numbers, 500mb space and 2gig data and charge $40 a month. This number more than covers the cost of the server and support and service done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vanfenix
    I go with websiteme.com they have great speed and service. they're support is first class and they helped me setup my reseller account literally on the phone for 5 hours. Also their domains are the cheapest I've seen for reselling - godaddy has some too, but they set it up so that my clients can order domains etc through my site which means i make a nice buck on it. If you need a resellers account, pm me and I'll see if i can dig up my old promotion code. but yeah - resellers accounts are big $$$$ if you do it right!
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    Wow, Alen should make it so people can moderate threads they start. I am guessing a few people didn't read the original post...

    how to host .aspx pages in real time?..
    Really? Pay attention, or go spam on Digitalpoint.

    I usually set them up with 500 mb of space and 2 gig of data and most local businesses will not go over this. You can upgrade it any time.
    Quentin, I was actually thinking these exact numbers last night. Thanks!
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