Is attracting clients the same as attracting women?

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In the past few weeks I've learned more about consulting than I have in the past year and that's because I decided to start picking up books from the library rather than reading wsos.

I'll be outright honest and say that even if a method in a wso seems feasible, it's probably just a hyped up method that won't actually work. That guy Kenny cannon came out with a method called offline client infusion that tells us to go sell our services to salesman at car dealerships. I take action on almost everything I do and i can be honest when I say that his method is a total sham. His method works with OTHER salesman. People who need to sell themselves rather than cars.

Continuing on, I saw a lot of wsos about cold calling and getting prospects super easy. Here's my take on that.

Let's say you're at a club and you approach 20 okay looking women by buying them a drink, talking about yourself a bunch, and then trying to close the "number" rather than sale. You're instantly positioning yourself as uninteresting, of no value, and unattractive.

Next time you're at a club, you have women with you, you're dancing having a great time, and you notice that a lot of other girls are looking over at you... Because everyone is having such a good time in your group.

Which method would land the more attractive [client/woman]? cold calling (random approaching) or value-based positioning?

This is how you land $5k startup + $1.5k/month rather than $750-1000 gigs.
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  • Profile picture of the author RRG
    Great analogy.

    Soon the cold calling advocates will be dropping in here like they did over at this thread:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ospecting.html

    Makes for some great discussion, debate and learning opportunities.

    Originally Posted by Rocket Media View Post

    In the past few weeks I've learned more about consulting than I have in the past year and that's because I decided to start picking up books from the library rather than reading wsos.

    I'll be outright honest and say that even if a method in a wso seems feasible, it's probably just a hyped up method that won't actually work. That guy Kenny cannon came out with a method called offline client infusion that tells us to go sell our services to salesman at car dealerships. I take action on almost everything I do and i can be honest when I say that his method is a total sham. His method works with OTHER salesman. People who need to sell themselves rather than cars.

    Continuing on, I saw a lot of wsos about cold calling and getting prospects super easy. Here's my take on that.

    Let's say you're at a club and you approach 20 okay looking women by buying them a drink, talking about yourself a bunch, and then trying to close the "number" rather than sale. You're instantly positioning yourself as uninteresting, of no value, and unattractive.

    Next time you're at a club, you have women with you, you're dancing having a great time, and you notice that a lot of other girls are looking over at you... Because everyone is having such a good time in your group.

    Which method would land the more attractive [client/woman]? cold calling (random approaching) or value-based positioning?

    This is how you land $5k startup + $1.5k/month rather than $750-1000 gigs.
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    • Profile picture of the author fasteasysuccess
      There's actually a lot of similar techniques used in the "pick up world" and the business world. Have worked with some gurus in this niche and it's funny how many of the techniques taught in the pick up world actually apply the same psychological triggers and techniques we use successfully in sales and marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Becker13
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        Originally Posted by fasteasysuccess View Post

        There's actually a lot of similar techniques used in the "pick up world" and the business world. Have worked with some gurus in this niche and it's funny how many of the techniques taught in the pick up world actually apply the same psychological triggers and techniques we use successfully in sales and marketing.
        I currently work as a dating coach as well as a IMER and cold calling clients/meeting them is pretty much the same.

        Theres a few differences but conveying your value and getting them internally motivated are clutch
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  • Profile picture of the author philboy uk
    Not so much sex, but less arguments about who gets the kids and the house when it all goes wrong.

    But otherwise quite similar
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  • Profile picture of the author e30drifter
    You are right. Actually Books by Neil Strauss (Game and Pickup Artist) are lot more than picking up girls. It's real life psychology.

    LOL about cold callers dropping in.
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  • Profile picture of the author RySpencer
    As in the "pickup" world, there are similar personality types as the sales world. Allow me to explain:

    "The Ice Breaker" - Smooth lines to get in there and sink the hook. Real Ice Breakers can smash a 100 000 year old glacier with the drop of a pin.

    "The Middle Man" - Can keep the prospect talking and charmed throughout the night. Usually requires paying attention and listening to the needs of the prospect.

    "The Deal Sealer" - At the end of the night, when all the groundwork has been laid, its time for the Deal Sealer to work his magic.

    Try to ask yourself where you fit into this. Maybe you are all three, maybe just two or one, but I am sure you can categorize yourself into one of these categories. I myself am a Middle Man and Deal Sealer. I can't break ice worth crap. So, I outsource this to my "Wing Men"
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnSells
    ...or just bring a beautiful woman with you when you make cold calls!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chuck Avants
      No wonder I suck at sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author piazorayarevelo
    There is a similarity. However, not all women like the same techniques, right? So, you still ought to do something that applies to all.
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    • Profile picture of the author ucupmardhiono
      Maybe I'm just a newbie in this forum, but I do understand alot in offline how to attract client and women. In my case, I get used to attract clients with served beer, but to attract women I get used with served wine.

      Actually almost similiar, but women always love to chat when see you are have enough money to buy her bottles of wine. If wanna attract client, I get used to make smooth confersation little chat not to straight with the business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Fridsjö
    You Sir are very right, it's basic human psychology.
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  • Profile picture of the author amenwolf
    unpredictable women...
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