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Want to go Offline but Scared of SEO? Offline SEO IS EASY! Build Your Confidence NOW!

by ryanmckinney
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It is no secret that offline is huge right now, just look at all of the WSO's. In late October, beginning of Nov, I made the decision to become a business consultant, and go offline. My "foot in the door" is SEO/Google Places.

One of the things that scared me was actually being able to perform the SEO for clients, as I have had small success with affiliate sites, taking MONTHS to rank.

So to build my confidence in local keywords, I bought a domain, threw up 2 posts (fiverr gig for 500 words SEO'ed, I had them give me 2 - 250 articles), and a video on a simple wordpress site. I made sure the on-page SEO was good, then I bought one fiverr gig for a profile link wheel. Then I simply forgot about the website as I started putting everything else into places. (i.e my own website, paypal, invoicing system, etc.)

So, let's take a look at what happened, with very minimal work on my part:

If you Google: best chiropractor in Wilmington NC , my site will show up about 5th

If you Google: chiropractor in Wilmington NC , my site is on the second page

The site that is mine : ( Find The Best | Guide ) <-- told you it was a simple site. (there are no affiliate links on it, nor anything that will actually help anyone find a chiropractor in wilmington nc, it was a test site!)

*note google keyword tool said the competition was "high', don't let that scare you!

Now, this isn't "amazing results" and I am not dominating the search result by any means, but that wasn't what I was trying to initially do. I was just trying to build my local SEO confidence and it WORKED. I am sure a few links from my blog blueprint (recommend from a warrior here) would actually put that site to the first page in a day or two, I just haven't done it yet.

If taking 45 minutes to throw up a dinky website, and spend $5 bucks on fiverr got those sort of results.. what do I now KNOW I can do for a client that pays me 500-800 up front?

Easy, tweak their on page SEO , then buy a fiverr gig for each keyword, or as many gigs as it takes to get them to the first page!The rest is profit, then set up the recurring monthly stream. Then upsell to other services they may need.

The single most important thing I did was TAKE ACTION, I have completely solidified my confidence, and I have been prospecting/qualifying potential clients, and even have my first client as of this past Friday.

I have to give credit for the simplicity behind local seo to this WSO (non-affiliated) which explains in detail about what I just talked about (on-page seo/off page seo for local keywords). Not only that, the creators of the WSO have been a tremendous help answering the 238912734 e-mails that I must of sent him. The same guy has another WSO to actually get the clients to call you (it worked for me the very first time), but there are plenty of WSO's out there on how to get new clients, you have to do what is comfortable for your self! I just prefer the non-cold calling approach (even though cold calling is a viable method you can find plenty of stuff here on the forums about it).

So, if you are wanting to get into this off-line frenzy, but scared of your SEO knowledge / abilities, then go ahead and build your self some confidence first, but the point is, offline SEO for local keywords is EASY.

Fiverr gig for 2 posts = $5
Fiver gig for profile link wheel = $5
.org domain = $11 or so
Time putting site together: 45 minutes
Confidence Gained = PRICELESS

Take action.

Ryan McKinney
#build #confidence #easy #offline #scared #seo
  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Alexander
    I love hearing about your success Ryan. And your action taking, confidence, etc.

    And as you know, I'm getting in the "SEO game" (as I was asked once too many times to ask myself why I kept declining...) as well and am loving learning it—to eventually outsource it of course.

    Thanks for sharing your results Ryan.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by Nathan Alexander View Post

      I love hearing about your success Ryan. And your action taking, confidence, etc.

      And as you know, I'm getting in the "SEO game" (as I was asked once too many times to ask myself why I kept declining...) as well and am loving learning it--to eventually outsource it of course.

      Thanks for sharing your results Ryan.
      Nathan,

      The beauty is I learned simple outsourcing along the way! Instead of trying to do everything my self, I literally spent an hour of my time (mainly on the wordpress installation and copy and paste the info) to get their. Instead of doing all the grunt work my self.

      Ryan
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    I "Scroogled" these phrases and you came up #4 and #22 respectively; great job!
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by kaniganj View Post

      I "Scroogled" these phrases and you came up #4 and #22 respectively; great job!

      Lol scroogled.
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  • Profile picture of the author linebelowdigital
    Ryan great job on getting your site ranked, great method as well. I love exact match .org domains as well and I build simple lead capture pages for companies to rent from me every month. I see that you customized a Wordpress theme in order to build this site... let me know what you think of this theme that I'm currently working on.

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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by linebelowdigital View Post

      Ryan great job on getting your site ranked, great method as well. I love exact match .org domains as well and I build simple lead capture pages for companies to rent from me every month. I see that you customized a Wordpress theme in order to build this site... let me know what you think of this theme that I'm currently working on.

      http://linebelowdigital.com/layout1.jpg

      Yeah, again, it was just to build my confidence for a local search term , to show my self how simple it was.. nothing monetized tied to that site, just out there taking up sapce in the SERPS!

      yeah, that theme I use to use for affiliate sites, so I know it, just threw the content in there quickly, 1 fiverr gig to off page SEO..

      If I get bored later, I may full SEO it's off page so I have a "google this and there is my site" example for future prospects

      Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    First off, I want to say congrats.

    Secondly, it is great to gain confidence but do not be too confident too soon. On page optimization is enough for most clients. Be very careful with using fiverr for your backlinking.

    I feel it necessary to bring you back to reality for a second.
    1.) you didn't rank because of fiverr.
    2.) you didn't rank because of backlinks at all.
    3.) you didn't rank because of on page optimization

    You have no indexed backlinks right now, and you should be thankful for that because profile links have begun to be spammy and useless, and a lot of times cause problems.

    To truly be able to give results to potential clients, you need to understand why you rank and you don't rank.

    You have ranked that site in the top 2-4 pages ( it differs on IP I suppose, checked on a few systems) but you need to know why. The reason, is only the domain. It is also important to note that you virtually will have no visits on that page. Next step, I challenge you to get listed on the first page of google.

    Another thing you mentioned is the adwords keyword tool in regards to competition. It is important to note that this is NOT a tool for SEO purposes, this is a tool for advertiser purposes. When adwords says something is high competition, it is referring ONLY to the adwords side of things, has nothing to do with the search engine at all.

    One of my clients is also ranking for Chiropractor, but in new york city, the big #1 spot. I can tell you all, it was not easy. I have had national keywords that were easier than that! On the other hand, my mom is a counselor and I put up a site for her, and had it ranked top 3 in 4 days because of the lack of competition.

    Another thing, if you approach a client, and you tell them you can get them on page 2, they will laugh at you. Adding a different adjective to a keyword phrase, isn't going to do much good either since there are virtually 0 monthly searches for that term.

    The days that SEO can be outsourced to fiverr, is over. Actually, it was never here to begin with. You will see exactly what I mean, but I'd rather give you a heads up first instead of having an embarrassing conversation with a client on why they are nowhere to be found.

    I'm not saying any of this to rain on your parade, just trying to help and motivate you to push a bit harder.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      First off, I want to say congrats.

      Secondly, it is great to gain confidence but do not be too confident too soon. On page optimization is enough for most clients. Be very careful with using fiverr for your backlinking.

      I feel it necessary to bring you back to reality for a second.
      1.) you didn't rank because of fiverr.
      2.) you didn't rank because of backlinks at all.
      3.) you didn't rank because of on page optimization

      You have no indexed backlinks right now, and you should be thankful for that because profile links have begun to be spammy and useless, and a lot of times cause problems.

      To truly be able to give results to potential clients, you need to understand why you rank and you don't rank.

      You have ranked that site in the top 2-4 pages ( it differs on IP I suppose, checked on a few systems) but you need to know why. The reason, is only the domain. It is also important to note that you virtually will have no visits on that page. Next step, I challenge you to get listed on the first page of google.

      Another thing you mentioned is the adwords keyword tool in regards to competition. It is important to note that this is NOT a tool for SEO purposes, this is a tool for advertiser purposes. When adwords says something is high competition, it is referring ONLY to the adwords side of things, has nothing to do with the search engine at all.

      One of my clients is also ranking for Chiropractor, but in new york city, the big #1 spot. I can tell you all, it was not easy. I have had national keywords that were easier than that! On the other hand, my mom is a counselor and I put up a site for her, and had it ranked top 3 in 4 days because of the lack of competition.

      Another thing, if you approach a client, and you tell them you can get them on page 2, they will laugh at you. Adding a different adjective to a keyword phrase, isn't going to do much good either since there are virtually 0 monthly searches for that term.

      The days that SEO can be outsourced to fiverr, is over. Actually, it was never here to begin with. You will see exactly what I mean, but I'd rather give you a heads up first instead of having an embarrassing conversation with a client on why they are nowhere to be found.

      I'm not saying any of this to rain on your parade, just trying to help and motivate you to push a bit harder.

      Thanks for that feed back!

      And, trust me, I am not approaching clients to get them on the second page!

      My first client is an outboard motor company, using blog blue print, and some .edu backlinks, and some high PR form back links (all done my self), I have moved them from page 6 to page 3, in about a span of a week.

      And this is even local - the key word term get's them about 18K exact searches a month. What this company already had going for them is that their domain is nearly 10 years old, and they already have 2K back links. They still sat on page 6. I have built a few good links, and used BB to get them up to the middle of page 3.

      This client told me they are bombarded with e-mails, cold calls, walk-ins all the time, but they took a "leap of faith with me" - I backed off my initial set up fee, and took a smaller amount to rank 1 keyword to prove to them what I can do. So far so good on that endeavor.

      I take your challenge sir, and I will put that puppy on page #1 for some highly searched cityname niche terms - I love taking up challenges!

      Thanks for a more in depth response to the insights of what I had "accomplished" vs. what happened, none-the-less, confidence was gained.

      Thanks,

      Ryan

      When I was in the Marines, my SgtMaj always said "False motivation, is still motivation devil!!"
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post


        I take your challenge sir, and I will put that puppy on page #1 for some highly searched cityname niche terms - I love taking up challenges!

        When I was in the Marines, my SgtMaj always said "False motivation, is still motivation devil!!"
        Good stuff... make sure you come back to post when you get up to it! Would love to see you progress!

        Your sgtmaj was a wise man.
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        • Profile picture of the author sjohn
          Thanks Ryan for sharing your experience and technique with us.
          There is always something to be learned from someone elses experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielkanuck
    Ryan good stuff here. I like the thorough research that you did -- something that i need to work on. We need more posts on here like this one so that more Warriors can succeed in their offline business. Thanks for the post!
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnQuiet
    Ryan,

    Could I ask what you used for an invoicing system?

    I have looked at on the online products (Freshbooks, zoho, Harvest, etc.) and can't decide which one is best for offline / SEO biz.

    Your thoughts?

    Thanks, JohnQuiet
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Nicely done

      On-Page SEO can go quite a long way too so make sure you do the following:
      (btw, you did most of these already, nice job - this is just for people who might not know on-page SEO yet) :-)
      • Main Keyword 3-5% of the time
      • Main keyword in the first sentence, and the last sentence
      • Header Tags
      • H1 - with your keyword (IMPORTANT: only use ONE H1 Tag per post or page, do NOT use more than 1 time)
      • H2 - with your keyword (it's ok to use multiple h2 or h3 tags if you wish)
      • H3 - with your keyword
      • Bold, Underline and Italicize each keyword at least ONCE
      • Add at least one picture (you haven't done this yet, add one - see how it helps!)
        • Name your picture according to your keyword: ie: keyword.jpg
        • Add a title/alt-tag to the image (this should match your main keyword for this post or page)
        • Add a caption (this should match your main keyword for this post or page)
        • Add a description to the image (this should match your main keyword for this post or page)
      I would also recommend adding a link in the FOOTER for your main keyword pointing to the home page.
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      • Profile picture of the author dtaylor
        Amen.
        Getting a site ranked locally for many terms can be quite simple.

        An easy approach to small businesses is to get their Google Places listing ranking, then get their site ranking, then get them on a mobile website.

        Thanks for sharing.

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      • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
        Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

        Nicely done

        On-Page SEO can go quite a long way too so make sure you do the following:
        (btw, you did most of these already, nice job - this is just for people who might not know on-page SEO yet) :-)
        • Main Keyword 3-5% of the time
        • Main keyword in the first sentence, and the last sentence
        • Header Tags
        • H1 - with your keyword (IMPORTANT: only use ONE H1 Tag per post or page, do NOT use more than 1 time)
        • H2 - with your keyword (it's ok to use multiple h2 or h3 tags if you wish)
        • H3 - with your keyword
        • Bold, Underline and Italicize each keyword at least ONCE
        • Add at least one picture (you haven't done this yet, add one - see how it helps!)
          • Name your picture according to your keyword: ie: keyword.jpg
          • Add a title/alt-tag to the image (this should match your main keyword for this post or page)
          • Add a caption (this should match your main keyword for this post or page)
          • Add a description to the image (this should match your main keyword for this post or page)
        I would also recommend adding a link in the FOOTER for your main keyword pointing to the home page.
        Thanks for the feed back- Yes, this will definitely help anyone with on-page SEO, you laid it out perfect. Since this site was just for a confidence boost I could do it, I neglected an image, I think i will go back and add one, as well as that footer link


        ***update on the rankings***

        (I think Iamnameless challenged me to rank better for some more keywords)

        (from my work machine I checked this morning)

        Keywords:

        Chiropractor wilmington nc: #2
        chiropractor in wilmington nc: #2
        wilmington nc chiropractor: : #2
        best chiropractor in wilmington nc: #1 and #2

        The first 3 = 3K broad searches, and 340 exact matches
        The last keyword does not have any search volume listed in keyword tool

        Could someone else report back what they see?

        I wonder if I should hit up some chiropractors now.. :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

          Thanks for the feed back- Yes, this will definitely help anyone with on-page SEO, you laid it out perfect. Since this site was just for a confidence boost I could do it, I neglected an image, I think i will go back and add one, as well as that footer link


          ***update on the rankings***

          (I think Iamnameless challenged me to rank better for some more keywords)

          (from my work machine I checked this morning)

          Keywords:

          Chiropractor wilmington nc: #2
          chiropractor in wilmington nc: #2
          wilmington nc chiropractor: : #2
          best chiropractor in wilmington nc: #1 and #2

          The first 3 = 3K broad searches, and 340 exact matches
          The last keyword does not have any search volume listed in keyword tool

          Could someone else report back what they see?

          I wonder if I should hit up some chiropractors now.. :-)
          Good stuff bro... Make sure you log out of your google account when you check the rankings! Time to start making some calls, but get that puppy to #1!
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          • Profile picture of the author SpiralX
            Thanks for the motivating and informative thread!

            And the on-site SEO info that Eljeffe posted is solid gold, this is similar to info that is sold
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          • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            Good stuff bro... Make sure you log out of your google account when you check the rankings! Time to start making some calls, but get that puppy to #1!

            haha, I always use a completely different browser :-), plus I am at work, and a "secure network" , so I can't even open my roody poo site.

            I initially just did this in order to boost my confidence that I could, now I might just use this as a sales tool.. hmmm

            This is opposite of the model I had been using, but I guess my question to Warriors is: if this was you and you was me, how would you go about approaching this local niche? Would you clean the site up, and rent ad space? sell the site 1 time-off? sell SEO to other local businesses outside the niche and keep the site?

            Your feedback would be cool, and may spark some good ideas for someone else who is reading but not commenting

            I guess there are a couple of different options here!

            Ryan McKinney
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            • Profile picture of the author SpiralX
              I think I'd clean it up and rent ad space. Make it competitive and you can easily make a lot of monthly recurring income with that approach for that site.

              Even if you were to sell it 'one-off' - keep the hosting and have a retainer for both the hosting and ongoing maintenance for the SEO side of things as well.
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              • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
                Originally Posted by SpiralX View Post

                I think I'd clean it up and rent ad space. Make it competitive and you can easily make a lot of monthly recurring income with that approach for that site.

                Even if you were to sell it 'one-off' - keep the hosting and have a retainer for both the hosting and ongoing maintenance for the SEO side of things as well.

                I got different people seeing it, and other's not, I think I am in the google dance stage! I am just going to keep slowly building some good links in my spare time, and hopefully be anchored up there somewhere. Use it as a sales tool when business call me :-D , as well as clean it up and rent ad space. Who knows it's just a baby.

                Eljeffe's post was gold to! I am going to add an image, and footer information and see what happens to.

                Ryan
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                • Profile picture of the author SpiralX
                  Hey Ryan,

                  I've heard that the 'google dance' is what can happen with inconsistent link-building. Keep building links steadily on that site over time and you should be able to anchor it nicely. I'm a couple steps behind you. Hope to get one of my local sites set up with on-page SEO tonight and then go into link building and off-site SEO stage. I'll report back with results! I do have keyword domains, and a few to work with, so I may try a few different techniques.
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                  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
                    Originally Posted by SpiralX View Post

                    Hey Ryan,

                    I've heard that the 'google dance' is what can happen with inconsistent link-building. Keep building links steadily on that site over time and you should be able to anchor it nicely. I'm a couple steps behind you. Hope to get one of my local sites set up with on-page SEO tonight and then go into link building and off-site SEO stage. I'll report back with results! I do have keyword domains, and a few to work with, so I may try a few different techniques.

                    Hey Spiral,

                    That is awesome, I am not that far ahead of you, keep this thread in the loop.There are many people who do not even comment on the thread, but may be able to take away some good information. I would be anxious to see your results as well -

                    Yeah, I have been trying to make the back links "steady", but I did hit it a bunch of solid links at one time after a week or so of it sitting there untouched, I am just going to even out those solid links, and see what happens over the next week or so.

                    Plus, you have the perfect on-page seo guide right in your face.. ^^ up there lol
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                    • Profile picture of the author SpiralX
                      Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

                      Hey Spiral,

                      That is awesome, I am not that far ahead of you, keep this thread in the loop.There are many people who do not even comment on the thread, but may be able to take away some good information. I would be anxious to see your results as well -

                      Yeah, I have been trying to make the back links "steady", but I did hit it a bunch of solid links at one time after a week or so of it sitting there untouched, I am just going to even out those solid links, and see what happens over the next week or so.

                      Plus, you have the perfect on-page seo guide right in your face.. ^^ up there lol
                      Lol yes - for our on-page guide - it`s nice to have it all in one neat, short list, rather than spread out amongst a 30 page manual!

                      And with your linkbuilding, I`m sure having a burst is ok as long as you just keep up with the steady stream in the aftermath. I`m looking forward to hearing how it develops for you.

                      Ok so I am going to do this tonight with creating a new local-based website, and then start pinging it and building links. Maybe an initial burst, then slow and steady. It`s all experimental for me. And I have quite a few different things to try for off-page SEO. I really hope I can get this page top rankings very quickly, so yes, will keep updated here to let you know.

                      My page is going to be one that sells services that I provide or am an affiliate for, an offshoot of my main offline service company. So as it generates organic traffic it should generate hands-off sales.

                      I`m going to be writing at least one if not a few 700 word articles for it. Another trick for the on-page SEO. Google now prefers articles of this length, all on the same page, over say 2*350 word articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by JohnQuiet View Post

      Ryan,

      Could I ask what you used for an invoicing system?

      I have looked at on the online products (Freshbooks, zoho, Harvest, etc.) and can't decide which one is best for offline / SEO biz.

      Your thoughts?

      Thanks, JohnQuiet
      Hey John,

      I use Freshbooks, you can have an invoice to the new client in minutes! And keep track of expenditures in there as well, it is great, I saw it recommended here.
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    • Profile picture of the author ClarkKent
      Originally Posted by JohnQuiet View Post

      Ryan,

      Could I ask what you used for an invoicing system?

      I have looked at on the online products (Freshbooks, zoho, Harvest, etc.) and can't decide which one is best for offline / SEO biz.

      Your thoughts?

      Thanks, JohnQuiet
      It's not online, I use Express Invoice (Free) + Dropbox though.
      Can send pre-made invoices to the client while onsite.
      Works just fine for all my needs :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
        Originally Posted by ClarkKent View Post

        It's not online, I use Express Invoice (Free) + Dropbox though.
        Can send pre-made invoices to the client while onsite.
        Works just fine for all my needs :-)

        I just learned about drop box with my business partner! We use it to share files quickly..

        So, does your client need dropbox then? How do you work that?

        Or are you saying, you make pre-made invoices, and just keep them in your own drop box?

        Interested in the method, since I just learned of dropbox 2 days ago

        Freshbooks is a sweet deal for me so far, takes only a couple of minutes and you have an invoice e-mailed, my clients like it so they can keep it for their files, but I am going to look into this as well, nothing wrong with keepin' my eyes open.
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        • Profile picture of the author SpiralX
          Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

          I just learned about drop box with my business partner! We use it to share files quickly..

          So, does your client need dropbox then? How do you work that?

          Or are you saying, you make pre-made invoices, and just keep them in your own drop box?

          Interested in the method, since I just learned of dropbox 2 days ago

          Freshbooks is a sweet deal for me so far, takes only a couple of minutes and you have an invoice e-mailed, my clients like it so they can keep it for their files, but I am going to look into this as well, nothing wrong with keepin' my eyes open.
          Hey there, is Freshbooks free? I'm racking my brains for the one I just heard of that is an open source version of Quickbooks. Ok I got it, it's in my CheckVist (online awesome to do list organizer). Gnucash.org - I was going to start working with this.

          I got about 50% of my work done on my new site last night. Then this morning began to switch it off the WP platform into something much fresher and just as rankable. So a lot of the time I spent messing around with templates and plug ins and settings could have been sent with on-page SEO for the content. Oh well! Onwards... should have the on-page work finished now by tonight.
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          • Profile picture of the author DaveyMars
            I think FreshBooks if free for the first 3 clients you set up, then the charges kick in.
            Pretty good I think - if you have 4 clients you can certainly afford FB.

            The cost tracking stuff is great to have if you ever need to go to an accountant. All the little $5 gigs and stuff you do on behalf of your customer can be attached to their account which is great later on when you want to analyze actual profits and costs. Not a big deal with 3 clients, but when you have 300 is good to know.
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            • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
              Originally Posted by DaveyMars View Post

              I think FreshBooks if free for the first 3 clients you set up, then the charges kick in.
              Pretty good I think - if you have 4 clients you can certainly afford FB.

              The cost tracking stuff is great to have if you ever need to go to an accountant. All the little $5 gigs and stuff you do on behalf of your customer can be attached to their account which is great later on when you want to analyze actual profits and costs. Not a big deal with 3 clients, but when you have 300 is good to know.

              Yeah I have freshbooks now, I like it,and being able to keep track of those expenditures. 2 clients so far, no charges from freshbooks
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        • Profile picture of the author ClarkKent
          Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

          I just learned about drop box with my business partner! We use it to share files quickly..

          So, does your client need dropbox then? How do you work that?

          Or are you saying, you make pre-made invoices, and just keep them in your own drop box?

          Interested in the method, since I just learned of dropbox 2 days ago

          Freshbooks is a sweet deal for me so far, takes only a couple of minutes and you have an invoice e-mailed, my clients like it so they can keep it for their files, but I am going to look into this as well, nothing wrong with keepin' my eyes open.
          I usually pre-make the invoices in Express Invoice, save it in my Dropbox, then send it off using the Dropbox app on my Android.
          I also just like to keep them in Dropbox for backup purposes.
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          • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
            Nice, I got to get the iphone app, my business partner has the android app.. I love technology :-D
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    I pulled that on-page SEO from a paid course i'm creating right now btw, glad you guys are enjoying it - it's gold, use it!
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  • Profile picture of the author DennisMc
    Thanks for starting this thread. A lot of good info. Dennis
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  • Profile picture of the author timlane
    I've found pelago / intelligent design to be priceless for my offline business. I can manage outsourcing, invoices, and tasks all in one place.

    Have a look, it changed my life.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by timlane View Post

      I've found pelago / intelligent design to be priceless for my offline business. I can manage outsourcing, invoices, and tasks all in one place.

      Have a look, it changed my life.

      Looks pretty slick to, sticking with my freshbooks for now. But I like the idea of dropping the invoices in the drop box
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  • Profile picture of the author Perseus Shearer
    I was thinking offline SEO meant speaking at conferences or events, radio or TV interviews, pitching to investors, etc...is that incorrect?
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by Perseus Shearer View Post

      I was thinking offline SEO meant speaking at conferences or events, radio or TV interviews, pitching to investors, etc...is that incorrect?

      It is helping businesses (such as a Dentist) , with their online marketing efforts, so you are going "offline" to help someone with their "online" .. if someone has a better explanation, please share lol

      It is amazing at how much we collectively know in IM, that we take for granted.

      I had my first client say "I typed in keywordhere, and my page isn't even there anywhere" .. like it would MAGICALLY appear! Well, this was before I started working on his site and off-page. Now, when he types in the kw, he is there, and he is happy :-) ..

      It is amazing when I see these commercials "just point click make your site in 5 minutes, and you will get found on google!" .. I always laugh at those.. this is why business owners need people like us!

      Knowledge we take for "granted" is gold to business owners! Don't even need a degree, I went to the school of IM HARD KNOCKS..

      Ryan Mckinney
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