SACKED By My Boss Today!...Should I cry or celebrate?

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Hello Warriors,

I was finally kicked out of my dead end zombie Accounts job today!.... I don't no whether to celebrate :rolleyes: or cry ? My kids are the big enough 'Why' for me and I have to make at least $5000 per month for them to get the best Education possible and best health schemes/insurance out there.

I need your help in figuring out the best, easy, enjoyable and profitable online IM Business to start up in 2012. Something that will bring in $5000 consistently. I can put in 7-8 hours per day and know about creating websites in Word Press (intermediate level), have my own hosting account and registered with a domain registrar. (1) Do I create websites for flipping (2) Offer consulting services such as helping businesses increase their profits/websites/seo/backlinks/etc ( I have Maria's Ultimate Consulting Challenge WSO) (3) Create Fanpages and sell them on fiverr as well as other services or (4) Anything that will be in high demand now and years to come?

You guys are the greatest, especially when fellow warriors are at their lowest point. I need your help, suggestions and even a blueprint would be appreciated. And once I start making the money, I shall of course make sure the successful blueprint fellow warrior is rewarded adequately, as well as receiving blessings from my young kids and I.

I want experienced warriors to help me see the wonderful views from top of the hill. I hear it's delightful and refreshing up there!

Cheers

Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author wilder1047
    I was just about to go on a spiel about all the things that are possible..

    But, nothing can speak to you like somebody who was in the exact same spot.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...st-3years.html

    ^^Really popular thread that showed how a father in the same position as you made it happen!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by wilder1047 View Post

      I was just about to go on a spiel about all the things that are possible..

      But, nothing can speak to you like somebody who was in the exact same spot.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...st-3years.html

      ^^Really popular thread that showed how a father in the same position as you made it happen!
      Thanks buddy for sharing a great motivational thread. I appreciate it!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    Hey Ross,

    I am dying to quit my job. It sounds like you have all of the makings to start an offline business. If I had that sort of motivation (being jobless) no telling how fast I could grow my business. As for now, I work a 9-5, then when I get home I work 530-2am most days, then I do it all over again.

    I wouldn't sell fanpages on fiverr, well maybe, but those things are perfect foot in the door for most businesses these days, and you can sell them for whatever value you get across to the company they are worth!

    Who is to say you can not generate multiple income streams? Flipping websites, offline consulting?

    For years to come: mobile marketing. I have focused, with my partners, all of our energy into SMS marketing / mobile marketing packages. That stuff ain't going no where anytime soon.

    Ryan
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

      Hey Ross,

      I am dying to quit my job. It sounds like you have all of the makings to start an offline business. If I had that sort of motivation (being jobless) no telling how fast I could grow my business. As for now, I work a 9-5, then when I get home I work 530-2am most days, then I do it all over again.

      I wouldn't sell fanpages on fiverr, well maybe, but those things are perfect foot in the door for most businesses these days, and you can sell them for whatever value you get across to the company they are worth!

      Who is to say you can not generate multiple income streams? Flipping websites, offline consulting?

      For years to come: mobile marketing. I have focused, with my partners, all of our energy into SMS marketing / mobile marketing packages. That stuff ain't going no where anytime soon.

      Ryan
      Hey Ryan,

      Thanks for your response. I guess your right that it might be a positive thing that I got kicked out of 'Shawshank'(as my ex-work colleagues called it). It will make me more determined as I have young kids.

      Your also right about a possible offline business. I hope you achieve all your goals. Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativeFlair
    Hi Ross,

    Wow, you're so positive about this, it will be great to hear how you get on. How long did you work there? Did you expect - surely you had to have warnings and meetings and things?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by CreativeFlair View Post

      Hi Ross,

      Wow, you're so positive about this, it will be great to hear how you get on. How long did you work there? Did you expect - surely you had to have warnings and meetings and things?
      Hey CreativeFlair,

      Thanks for your input.

      I worked there for 10 years and in the private sector they give you very few warnings. It's really tough out there in this recession. My zombie boss had insecurities and fed staff with negativity day in day out. If I was few minutes late, he would stop work and waste time shaming me up in front of others and petty things like that. What a loser, right?

      Life is all about opportunity cost, for example, If I studied an IT degree at Brunel University instead of Accounting and Finance degree at University of East London, I would have been an IM professional long time ago. Instead I ended up working as a zombie in an Accounts Company(clocking in at 8.30, clocking in and out for lunch and clocking out at 5.30). The full zombie cycle was repeated each day.

      So life is all about the choices we make and the consequences can be severe.

      That's why I'm positive about this as it will push me to the limit and take action.

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author aaronblevins
    Man, I still have the 8:30-5:00 job. My wife and I are young - she's finishing up her undergrad at Ohio State University and then will be starting her graduate program for the following 2 years.

    She has promised me that when she finishes that and gets a job (her program is city planning - those jobs are in HOT demand right now), that I can focus 100% on my Offline and Online businesses and leave the job I'm at now.

    All of that being said, I formed a business with a friend of mine about a year and a half ago doing all sorts of offline businesses. It has been great because, while I have this day job, my buddy is pretty much doing our business full time, while he holds down another part time job. And he has been killing it! He's an incredible people person, and can connect with business owners so easy. He's been a real asset for our company. If you can find a motivated individual like my partner, who might not have a lot of knowledge, but has the motivation to learn and get out there and bust it, I'd recommend forming a partnership like that.

    As for me, and what I am doing right now, while I hold down my job... I spent all last year really educating myself on all the ins and outs of online and offline marketing. I literally spent $10,000 in clickbank/warrior forum products last year (actually, 10,855.49... I just did my 2011 taxes... ) trying to learn as much as possible. Not saying you have to spend that much, but if you're able to spend a little money every now and then, I'd highly recommend floating around the Offline and Online Marketing Forums. There are always guys in there that share a ton of value. A few guys I recommend are Donald Wilson, Arron Reeves, Fuad Tolieb, & Anthony Aires. Check out their stuff... it'll add loads of value to your business.

    As for what I'm doing now? I had to realize that, even though I'm pretty well versed in many types of marketing tactics now, if I was going to ever GET STARTED and really start making any money, I needed to focus on 1 THING, and devote a large chunk of my time to it so that I DO IT WELL. So, I decided that my one thing was being a Facebook Expert. I am currently engaging small businesses via online webinars and giving them a TON of value related to Facebook and their industry, and then soft-selling them on Fan Page design and monthly management. This method is great because webinars don't come across as salesy (if they are done the correct way), and if you offer enough value, or rather teach a lot of these small businesses exactly what they need to do, and partly how to do it, they'll beg you to help them with it.

    Hopefully that added some value to your current situation. Working for yourself really is the BEST thing you can do. I wish you much success!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by aaronblevins View Post

      Man, I still have the 8:30-5:00 job. My wife and I are young - she's finishing up her undergrad at Ohio State University and then will be starting her graduate program for the following 2 years.

      She has promised me that when she finishes that and gets a job (her program is city planning - those jobs are in HOT demand right now), that I can focus 100% on my Offline and Online businesses and leave the job I'm at now.

      All of that being said, I formed a business with a friend of mine about a year and a half ago doing all sorts of offline businesses. It has been great because, while I have this day job, my buddy is pretty much doing our business full time, while he holds down another part time job. And he has been killing it! He's an incredible people person, and can connect with business owners so easy. He's been a real asset for our company. If you can find a motivated individual like my partner, who might not have a lot of knowledge, but has the motivation to learn and get out there and bust it, I'd recommend forming a partnership like that.

      As for me, and what I am doing right now, while I hold down my job... I spent all last year really educating myself on all the ins and outs of online and offline marketing. I literally spent $10,000 in clickbank/warrior forum products last year (actually, 10,855.49... I just did my 2011 taxes... ) trying to learn as much as possible. Not saying you have to spend that much, but if you're able to spend a little money every now and then, I'd highly recommend floating around the Offline and Online Marketing Forums. There are always guys in there that share a ton of value. A few guys I recommend are Donald Wilson, Arron Reeves, Fuad Tolieb, & Anthony Aires. Check out their stuff... it'll add loads of value to your business.

      As for what I'm doing now? I had to realize that, even though I'm pretty well versed in many types of marketing tactics now, if I was going to ever GET STARTED and really start making any money, I needed to focus on 1 THING, and devote a large chunk of my time to it so that I DO IT WELL. So, I decided that my one thing was being a Facebook Expert. I am currently engaging small businesses via online webinars and giving them a TON of value related to Facebook and their industry, and then soft-selling them on Fan Page design and monthly management. This method is great because webinars don't come across as salesy (if they are done the correct way), and if you offer enough value, or rather teach a lot of these small businesses exactly what they need to do, and partly how to do it, they'll beg you to help them with it.

      Hopefully that added some value to your current situation. Working for yourself really is the BEST thing you can do. I wish you much success!
      Hey Aaron,

      Thanks for the great advice. You are lucky to have a business partner who has that drive and determination.

      I have a feeling that you will make it big in IM and kick your boss in the butt soon.

      Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author TheNightOwl
      Originally Posted by kaniganj View Post

      Go watch Office Space, and celebrate.






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      To answer your question, Ross (although I'm no big expert on this so take it for what it's worth)...

      There's no reason you can't do all three of your options, but you should probably focus on the one that will get you a decent return in the least amount of time, no?

      I don't doubt you could bang out a dozen Facebook fanpages a day on Fiverr, for example, but it's hardly likely to pay the mortgage, is it?

      Of course, it depends on your skills, comfort level, etc. If your sales chops aren't up to snuff, for instance, and you focus on selling sites to small business owners via cold calling, hmmm...

      Flipping sites might be a way to get some cash in the door.

      Meanwhile, you could set up one or two small "mock local biz" sites and apply your SEO skills to rank those sites well.

      Why? As demos of what you could do for local business owners. You could create a couple of "case studies" for those sites.

      Don't spell out exactly how you did it otherwise tight-fisted sods will just take those directions, give them to their college-aged son and say "Fill your boots on my business site!"

      Instead (random suggestions off the top of my head here), show the site as a skeleton, then explain the planning process for categories and proper keyword selection, show the site with content added and a sign up form -- and what you hope to achieve with it [it doesn't even need to be a working form on your "live" site if you don't want it to be] -- then the original non-rank for it in Google [Day 1].

      Then do some keyword research and competitive analysis and document the results. Here you're showing what you need to overcome to get to #1.

      Then do your SEO voodoo and show how the site starts moving up in the rankings [ Day 5, Day 12, Day 26etc.] until you get it to position #1.

      Something like that. You might then be able to use that as part of your sales system to demonstrate your SEO skills to business owners.

      Hope that helps.

      Good to hear that you're optimistic about the whole affair. Best of luck with it.

      TheNightOwl
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      • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
        Originally Posted by TheNightOwl View Post






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        To answer your question, Ross (although I'm no big expert on this so take it for what it's worth)...

        There's no reason you can't do all three of your options, but you should probably focus on the one that will get you a decent return in the least amount of time, no?

        I don't doubt you could bang out a dozen Facebook fanpages a day on Fiverr, for example, but it's hardly likely to pay the mortgage, is it?

        Of course, it depends on your skills, comfort level, etc. If your sales chops aren't up to snuff, for instance, and you focus on selling sites to small business owners via cold calling, hmmm...

        Flipping sites might be a way to get some cash in the door.

        Meanwhile, you could set up one or two small "mock local biz" sites and apply your SEO skills to rank those sites well.

        Why? As demos of what you could do for local business owners. You could create a couple of "case studies" for those sites.

        Don't spell out exactly how you did it otherwise tight-fisted sods will just take those directions, give them to their college-aged son and say "Fill your boots on my business site!"

        Instead (random suggestions off the top of my head here), show the site as a skeleton, then explain the planning process for categories and proper keyword selection, show the site with content added and a sign up form -- and what you hope to achieve with it [it doesn't even need to be a working form on your "live" site if you don't want it to be] -- then the original non-rank for it in Google [Day 1].

        Then do some keyword research and competitive analysis and document the results. Here you're showing what you need to overcome to get to #1.

        Then do your SEO voodoo and show how the site starts moving up in the rankings [ Day 5, Day 12, Day 26etc.] until you get it to position #1.

        Something like that. You might then be able to use that as part of your sales system to demonstrate your SEO skills to business owners.

        Hope that helps.

        Good to hear that you're optimistic about the whole affair. Best of luck with it.

        TheNightOwl
        Thanks for the information NightOwl. You rock!
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Originally Posted by ross007 View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    I was finally kicked out of my dead end zombie Accounts job today!.... I don't no whether to celebrate :rolleyes: or cry ? My kids are the big enough 'Why' for me and I have to make at least $5000 per month for them to get the best Education possible and best health schemes/insurance out there.

    I need your help in figuring out the best, easy, enjoyable and profitable online IM Business to start up in 2012. Something that will bring in $5000 consistently. I can put in 7-8 hours per day and know about creating websites in Word Press (intermediate level), have my own hosting account and registered with a domain registrar. (1) Do I create websites for flipping (2) Offer consulting services such as helping businesses increase their profits/websites/seo/backlinks/etc ( I have Maria's Ultimate Consulting Challenge WSO) (3) Create Fanpages and sell them on fiverr as well as other services or (4) Anything that will be in high demand now and years to come?

    You guys are the greatest, especially when fellow warriors are at their lowest point. I need your help, suggestions and even a blueprint would be appreciated. And once I start making the money, I shall of course make sure the successful blueprint fellow warrior is rewarded adequately, as well as receiving blessings from my young kids and I.

    I want experienced warriors to help me see the wonderful views from top of the hill. I hear it's delightful and refreshing up there!

    Cheers

    Ross
    Im confused, did you get fired or did you quit?
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    • Profile picture of the author Witty
      Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

      Im confused, did you get fired or did you quit?
      Either way, he needs to take action now. In a years time if you're making some money, then I'd say you should laugh.

      Failure to do so doesn't necessarily mean you should cry though!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

      Im confused, did you get fired or did you quit?
      Hey Andrei,

      I was actually sacked from the years of torture by my boss. Private firms in the city of London are ruthless
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Hey Ross

    Sorry to be the negative sounding one here but based on what you said my suggestion is to .... look for another job

    The main reason is you don't have a business plan, and therefore you have absolutely no idea of how you will achieve the $5000 a month profit on a consistent basis that you will need.

    Your ideas are not ones that inspire me to think you can make $5000 because they are based on competing with the masses of people in India and the Philippines who can live a comfortable life on $300 a month. There is oversupply of these services. Example I have just hired a great writer for $1 per 100 words.

    You also have a family to support so unless you have 6 months or more savings it could be too risky.

    And finally you said you can only commit 7-8 hours per day which is probably not enough in the early stages. Remember you need to market, sell, deliver, support, do accounts etc. You will be the one-man-band.

    The most sane option by the sounds of it is to get a job, and do this work on the side. Once you have a solid plan and system for making money that you have proven to work, and can do a realistic projection of future earnings then quit your job.

    I am still in full time employment and glad that I don't have the financial pressure.

    I know there are a lot of rags to riches stories and people can peform under pressure, but seriously consider all the benefits of paid employment over an unproven business.

    All the best to you

    Martin
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

      Hey Ross

      Sorry to be the negative sounding one here but based on what you said my suggestion is to .... look for another job

      The main reason is you don't have a business plan, and therefore you have absolutely no idea of how you will achieve the $5000 a month profit on a consistent basis that you will need.

      Your ideas are not ones that inspire me to think you can make $5000 because they are based on competing with the masses of people in India and the Philippines who can live a comfortable life on $300 a month. There is oversupply of these services. Example I have just hired a great writer for $1 per 100 words.

      You also have a family to support so unless you have 6 months or more savings it could be too risky.

      And finally you said you can only commit 7-8 hours per day which is probably not enough in the early stages. Remember you need to market, sell, deliver, support, do accounts etc. You will be the one-man-band.

      The most sane option by the sounds of it is to get a job, and do this work on the side. Once you have a solid plan and system for making money that you have proven to work, and can do a realistic projection of future earnings then quit your job.

      I am still in full time employment and glad that I don't have the financial pressure.

      I know there are a lot of rags to riches stories and people can peform under pressure, but seriously consider all the benefits of paid employment over an unproven business.

      All the best to you

      Martin
      Martin,

      Many thanks for your honesty. I have his burning desire and big enough 'Why' to make it in IM and will give it a good try. If I don't try, I will never know what views are available from top of the hill. My insurance plan is exactly what you mentioned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    You remind me of one of my favorite movies which is GlenGarryGlenRoss about guys who work on commissions and how rough it can be but at the same time how rewarding and free it can also be.

    The internet is alive...it grows it dies it comes back strong....we have to adapt every single day because money is like falling all around us if we pay close attention.

    That is opportunity..we have to keep our eyes on it. Any advice we give you now on how to proceed for the rest of this year can be solid but do not forget that you can jump into something totally new next week or next month and make a killing.

    Please do not fall into the jumping patterns tho where you can not stop and you never get anything accomplished....dive in and stick with it.

    Good luck to you but think smart...what can you do or what can you promote that you will get paid on again and again....and think about the advantages the product owner has if you just send him a lead...he gets to continue to promote to that lead while you only get paid...partially and once.


    Keep us posted so we keep you on track my friend.

    Wow Honestbizpro,

    3,788 posts? That is the makings of a Guru.

    Thanks for your advice and I will have to think smart to achieve my goals. Fellow Warriors are the only ones who can help me achieve my goals so I am indebted for any advice you guys give.

    Cheers

    Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author Voasi
    I'm a firm believer in putting yourself in tough financial positions so you HAVE TO make it! It pushes you and forces you to take ACTION! You here lots of "gurus" talking about taking action because it's typically the singular most important part of making money online.

    Most lack the passion to do it. What I mean by passion is that they're comfortable with where they are at. Sure, they "talk" about wanting to start making money online, they post 100's of times here on WF, but at the end of the day, they don't take the ACTION steps to achieve financial success.

    Ross -

    You want to make $5k a month - it's VERY simple do to. The UK market is blowing up in the local arena. All you need is 5 clients paying you $1k a month or 10 clients at $500/mo. to make it happen. VERY, very achievable.

    Get a graphic designer to make you a nice double-sided color flyer that talks about your services, benefits to the client and a case study (not necessary, but will help with conversions!). Get 250 made - shouldn't cost too much.

    Offer a special on the flyer, something along the lines of "$1000/mo for Service".

    Spend 2 days and pass out all the flyers to businesses in your area/London. Make sure to get the owners name and phone number. That way you can follow-up with them. It's important to get the business owners name so you know who to ask for when you go back. Create a Google Doc and manage all the calls, appts and notes for each business you left a flyer at.

    Once you get the owner on the phone, tell them that you're a small boutique internet marketing company only looking for a select few clients to work with. You hand select your clients and after looking at their business, thought that you'd be a perfect match...so much in-fact that you're willing to drop your prices in half ($500/mo.) to get started this again. Again, remind him that you're a small boutique IM company and only want a handfull of clients and that you're talking to 4 other companies today that already expressed some interest.

    Ask questions. Let them speak. They'll tell you the pain points in their business and essentially sell themselves on the services they need from you.

    ...I have no doubt you'll have 4-5 deals by the end of the week.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Voasi View Post

      I'm a firm believer in putting yourself in tough financial positions so you HAVE TO make it! It pushes you and forces you to take ACTION!
      For any beginners looking at this thread I would strongly recommend not following this advice.

      In my opinion, you shouldn't be jumping for joy right now, you should cry. I'm not going to hype you up with baloney and say its right for you and tell you how great I do because it isn't always the same situations for everybody. If you have a family to support, it would be a down right irresponsible and selfish thing to put yourself in a tough financial position just because it may gave you the focus and willpower to get your own thing going.

      What so many people fail to realize on this forum, is there is a difference between building a real business, and just making money from selling websites or services. Building a real, legit, and strong business is MUCH more than selling.

      To Aaron Blevins... You my friend need to change your ways. Spending 10k on products here is not going to help you achieve anything, it is only helping the product creators achieve what they want. Why buy a product, and let the information sit, or even PLAN to use that information in your arsenal when you decide to finally do something, when you don't know if it works for you or not. Complete waste of money. How about this year you give me 10k and I'll give you a better return than the wasted information you have bought.

      Anyway, back to the OP. This forum is about marketing, making money, and all sorts of stuff. You will find good information here... HOWEVER you will not find much information on financial responsibility. For CERTAIN people, this forum can be cancerous. I suggest you not fall into the trap the majority of people do. You might read many success stories here of the people who post regularly, and I have quite a few as well, but what people don't realize is the amount of people who don't post, or are guests, and have failed miserably.

      I don't believe you will fail because a lack of sales experience, or not knowing how to do something.. I believe most fail because they don't have their financial house in order.

      You need $5,000 a month? Go and get another job... This is something serious, and if you have a family, with kids to support then you need to act responsibly and not have a mid life crisis here and decide you just want to do your own thing. I think the pressure is on you and maybe this is something great for you to do, but build up to it. Don't jump into it and risk EVERYTHING on a hope that you can make these sales. Your family depends on you.. take care of them first and foremost.. start looking for another job.

      Fiverr gigs... hell no. Fan pages to business? don't think thats going to do it for you. I think you could sell services and do great, but you're going to need to deliver, you need to get a system down and you should work up to it.

      Might not be what you want to hear, but I'm not going to lie to you and I'm not insensitive enough to tell you to jeopardize your family's well being to go on a limb here.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        To Aaron Blevins... You my friend need to change your ways. Spending 10k on products here is not going to help you achieve anything, it is only helping the product creators achieve what they want. Why buy a product, and let the information sit, or even PLAN to use that information in your arsenal when you decide to finally do something, when you don't know if it works for you or not. Complete waste of money. How about this year you give me 10k and I'll give you a better return than the wasted information you have bought.
        Why didn't you offer to help him sooner .

        That aside, spending money to learn is normally called an investment, not an expense. Attending a college or university, depending on the one attended, could make that 10K seem like chump change.

        If it taught the essentials of IM where he was able to learn a good foundation, then it was a good investment. In any case, it was certainly not a complete waste of money.

        BTW, I "lost" my job some 30+ years ago when my business made more money than my job. Looking back, I was exceptionally naive about running the business and had no business starting it in the first place. But I did, and with the help of the network I had built up in the prior two years, made a success of it. And sold it while I was still ahead. Still learning from the experience though. It wouldn't have happened if I had only talked about it without taking action.

        Marvin
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        • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
          Originally Posted by Marvin Johnston View Post

          Why didn't you offer to help him sooner .

          That aside, spending money to learn is normally called an investment, not an expense. Attending a college or university, depending on the one attended, could make that 10K seem like chump change.

          If it taught the essentials of IM where he was able to learn a good foundation, then it was a good investment. In any case, it was certainly not a complete waste of money.

          BTW, I "lost" my job some 30+ years ago when my business made more money than my job. Looking back, I was exceptionally naive about running the business and had no business starting it in the first place. But I did, and with the help of the network I had built up in the prior two years, made a success of it. And sold it while I was still ahead. Still learning from the experience though. It wouldn't have happened if I had only talked about it without taking action.

          Marvin
          Excellent stuff Marvin. I like your positive outlook and determination. If you didn't take action, you would never have started your own business and the valuable experience that came with it.

          Cheers
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        • Originally Posted by Marvin Johnston View Post

          BTW, I "lost" my job some 30+ years ago when my business made more money than my job. Looking back, I was exceptionally naive about running the business and had no business starting it in the first place. But I did, and with the help of the network I had built up in the prior two years, made a success of it. And sold it while I was still ahead. Still learning from the experience though. It wouldn't have happened if I had only talked about it without taking action.

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      • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
        Originally Posted by Terry Gorry View Post

        Ross,
        I am surprised you didn't thank this poster for the advice above because it's the best advice on the thread.

        Clearly it is not the type of advice you wanted..
        ..but you really should read it again and think about it.

        Good luck anyway but if you have a family, take it from someone who has been building real businesses for 25 years that an awful lot of what you read on the WF is, how can I put this delicately.."exaggerated".
        Thanks Terry for your advice. I do listen to constructive criticism, however, I have met very successful IM people in here making decent income. These people inspire me and I still think there are wonderful views at the top of the hill. I don't want to die thinking ''what if I did that'' or '' I wish I had done that''. My wife works so that pays the bills so I can go full stream ahead and give the IM circuit a good try. I want to try and then drop dead but not to try is instant death!
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      • Profile picture of the author Voasi
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        For any beginners looking at this thread I would strongly recommend not following this advice.

        In my opinion, you shouldn't be jumping for joy right now, you should cry. I'm not going to hype you up with baloney and say its right for you and tell you how great I do because it isn't always the same situations for everybody. If you have a family to support, it would be a down right irresponsible and selfish thing to put yourself in a tough financial position just because it may gave you the focus and willpower to get your own thing going.
        Really, crying? That's what is the problem with people in this country. I see them crying when they lose their job, instead of getting their azz in gear. Too many times do I see people saying it's "hard out there" and "I haven't had a job in 18-24 months"... Are you kidding me?! I've been able to build a solid business in the worst economical times since the 20's.

        Did I cry when I lost my job? No, within 45 days I had a membership site that pumped out $10k/mo. and that was back in 2005. But I thought getting another job was the "right" way to go - then I lost it again. Since then, I started 2 SEO companies.

        Is anyone really "secure" in a job? What if he loses it again? What if he spends 18 months looking, only to find out the job he has to take means downgrading his lifestyle to what his family is accustomed to.

        The only business entity that I truly can trust, that will provide for me day in and day out, is the entity that I build for myself.

        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Anyway, back to the OP. This forum is about marketing, making money, and all sorts of stuff. You will find good information here... HOWEVER you will not find much information on financial responsibility. For CERTAIN people, this forum can be cancerous. I suggest you not fall into the trap the majority of people do. You might read many success stories here of the people who post regularly, and I have quite a few as well, but what people don't realize is the amount of people who don't post, or are guests, and have failed miserably.

        I don't believe you will fail because a lack of sales experience, or not knowing how to do something.. I believe most fail because they don't have their financial house in order.

        You need $5,000 a month? Go and get another job... This is something serious, and if you have a family, with kids to support then you need to act responsibly and not have a mid life crisis here and decide you just want to do your own thing. I think the pressure is on you and maybe this is something great for you to do, but build up to it. Don't jump into it and risk EVERYTHING on a hope that you can make these sales. Your family depends on you.. take care of them first and foremost.. start looking for another job.

        Fiverr gigs... hell no. Fan pages to business? don't think thats going to do it for you. I think you could sell services and do great, but you're going to need to deliver, you need to get a system down and you should work up to it.
        Having said everything I said above, you do give solid advice. This forum can be VERY cancerous, providing an addictive layer.

        Not everyone can do it - not everyone can push themselves directly out the gate (after getting fired) and pigeon hole themselves into providing services/products that will provide the lifestyle they want/need. You need focus, which requires you to remove yourself from this forum and a system, so you can focus on building a sales funnel with your "back-office" can perform the duties you're selling.

        Their are merits to going down both paths, just depends on the type of person you are. I've made my bed...slept in it...and slept good.
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by ross007 View Post

          Thanks Terry for your advice. I do listen to constructive criticism, however, I have met very successful IM people in here making decent income. These people inspire me and I still think there are wonderful views at the top of the hill. I don't want to die thinking ''what if I did that'' or '' I wish I had done that''. My wife works so that pays the bills so I can go full stream ahead and give the IM circuit a good try. I want to try and then drop dead but not to try is instant death!
          Okay... well I think you're in the wrong forum then. There is a big different between offline marketing and internet marketing. I know tons of people that make great money online and offline. I have done well for myself but that doesn't mean everybody can. You said you need 5K minimum.. but now you say your wife works and that can pay the bills. So can you go a couple months not making much? It is very realistic that you can make your goal of 5k months but it is also very realistic that you won't.

          Originally Posted by Voasi View Post

          Really, crying? That's what is the problem with people in this country. I see them crying when they lose their job, instead of getting their azz in gear. Too many times do I see people saying it's "hard out there" and "I haven't had a job in 18-24 months"... Are you kidding me?! I've been able to build a solid business in the worst economical times since the 20's.

          Yeah I agree with that.

          Did I cry when I lost my job? No, within 45 days I had a membership site that pumped out $10k/mo. and that was back in 2005. But I thought getting another job was the "right" way to go - then I lost it again. Since then, I started 2 SEO companies.

          Is anyone really "secure" in a job? What if he loses it again? What if he spends 18 months looking, only to find out the job he has to take means downgrading his lifestyle to what his family is accustomed to.

          The only business entity that I truly can trust, that will provide for me day in and day out, is the entity that I build for myself.


          Having said everything I said above, you do give solid advice. This forum can be VERY cancerous, providing an addictive layer.

          Not everyone can do it - not everyone can push themselves directly out the gate (after getting fired) and pigeon hole themselves into providing services/products that will provide the lifestyle they want/need. You need focus, which requires you to remove yourself from this forum and a system, so you can focus on building a sales funnel with your "back-office" can perform the duties you're selling.

          Their are merits to going down both paths, just depends on the type of person you are. I've made my bed...slept in it...and slept good.
          I agree with you and obviously you are not a miserable failure story. I have a success story that would inspire a lot of people, but I don't even care to tell it because the truth is most people always want to make money on their own, but many fail and I encourage everyone to be prepared, not make irrational decisions.

          There is a lot of information in the forum. There are many people who do this full time, and those that make a KILLING doing this.

          We have roughly 430,000 members on this board. I would be very very surprised if even 10% have made a full time income with internet marketing.

          A successful business is not focused only on sales and lead generation. They have systems in place, and you don't have that right now, if you're going to go at this you need to have realistic expectations, time for a learning curve and be very driven.

          50% of businesses fail in the first 5 years.. Know why so many fail?

          1.) They start their business for the wrong reason. Are you passionate about internet or offline marketing? Are you so passionate about it that you think people are idiots if they feel they don't need your services?
          2.) Poor management. This could be time management, project management, anything to do with management. It could be you, it can be someone else.
          3.) Low funding. If you don't have the start up capital, how do you expect to do what needs to be done? Can you operate on a shoestring? Yes, but since you're already setting 5k/mo for your income you need to plan for more to take care of business costs.
          4.) Failing to plan.. get a business plan, marketing plan, sales forecast and do whatever you can to make it happen. Business plans aren't one time things, its something that needs to be changed regularly. Competition analysis, budgeting, potential problems and solutions.

          I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you can do this. I don't know you, I don't know what you're capable of, for all I know you got canned at your sales job for being an awful salesman. I don't know anything about you. It would be irresponsible for me to sit here and tell you that you can do this on your own and succeed.

          Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it likely? No. Many people on this forum spend a lot of time here and have been emerging into this for the last 6 months. Some of them have only had a couple sales since then. The ones that are self proclaimed gurus of course are going to tell you how successful they are and quite possibly lead you down the wrong road.

          I'm only 25... you probably don't need to hear about financial responsibility from me. However, since you have a family, wife and kids, it isn't about what YOU WANT anymore. It is something you should discuss with your wife first.

          Word of advice, don't ignore the posts you dislike because it doesn't say what you want it to say. If you are truly ready for this, then it is proper business planning to know what possibilities are. There are many things you will need to address, plan, and prepare for in order to succeed. A real business is not just about picking up the phone and selling. I wouldn't recommend anyone going into this as a sole prop, especially if they have a family. You need to incorporate for your own protection and your family. Your wife has a job, but what if you get hit with a lawsuit because you lost rank for a website that you have done because you redesigned it. Think its just a big if? It is a very real possibility. This forum isn't about people telling you what you want to hear, this forum is about helping people and guiding them along the way. If you are getting into services then you need to make proper plans. Once you do that, come back and make another, long and detailed thread with what you plan to do and you will likely have better input and guidance.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            Okay... well I think you're in the wrong forum then. There is a big different between offline marketing and internet marketing. I know tons of people that make great money online and offline. I have done well for myself but that doesn't mean everybody can. You said you need 5K minimum.. but now you say your wife works and that can pay the bills. So can you go a couple months not making much? It is very realistic that you can make your goal of 5k months but it is also very realistic that you won't.



            I agree with you and obviously you are not a miserable failure story. I have a success story that would inspire a lot of people, but I don't even care to tell it because the truth is most people always want to make money on their own, but many fail and I encourage everyone to be prepared, not make irrational decisions.

            There is a lot of information in the forum. There are many people who do this full time, and those that make a KILLING doing this.

            We have roughly 430,000 members on this board. I would be very very surprised if even 10% have made a full time income with internet marketing.

            A successful business is not focused only on sales and lead generation. They have systems in place, and you don't have that right now, if you're going to go at this you need to have realistic expectations, time for a learning curve and be very driven.

            50% of businesses fail in the first 5 years.. Know why so many fail?

            1.) They start their business for the wrong reason. Are you passionate about internet or offline marketing? Are you so passionate about it that you think people are idiots if they feel they don't need your services?
            2.) Poor management. This could be time management, project management, anything to do with management. It could be you, it can be someone else.
            3.) Low funding. If you don't have the start up capital, how do you expect to do what needs to be done? Can you operate on a shoestring? Yes, but since you're already setting 5k/mo for your income you need to plan for more to take care of business costs.
            4.) Failing to plan.. get a business plan, marketing plan, sales forecast and do whatever you can to make it happen. Business plans aren't one time things, its something that needs to be changed regularly. Competition analysis, budgeting, potential problems and solutions.

            I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you can do this. I don't know you, I don't know what you're capable of, for all I know you got canned at your sales job for being an awful salesman. I don't know anything about you. It would be irresponsible for me to sit here and tell you that you can do this on your own and succeed.

            Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it likely? No. Many people on this forum spend a lot of time here and have been emerging into this for the last 6 months. Some of them have only had a couple sales since then. The ones that are self proclaimed gurus of course are going to tell you how successful they are and quite possibly lead you down the wrong road.

            I'm only 25... you probably don't need to hear about financial responsibility from me. However, since you have a family, wife and kids, it isn't about what YOU WANT anymore. It is something you should discuss with your wife first.

            Word of advice, don't ignore the posts you dislike because it doesn't say what you want it to say. If you are truly ready for this, then it is proper business planning to know what possibilities are. There are many things you will need to address, plan, and prepare for in order to succeed. A real business is not just about picking up the phone and selling. I wouldn't recommend anyone going into this as a sole prop, especially if they have a family. You need to incorporate for your own protection and your family. Your wife has a job, but what if you get hit with a lawsuit because you lost rank for a website that you have done because you redesigned it. Think its just a big if? It is a very real possibility. This forum isn't about people telling you what you want to hear, this forum is about helping people and guiding them along the way. If you are getting into services then you need to make proper plans. Once you do that, come back and make another, long and detailed thread with what you plan to do and you will likely have better input and guidance.
            Update - WOW, I made some sales already

            I have already taken action, used my time management skills and other skills I learned in the Accounting company and made some sales. I spend an hour or two in the WF learning and rest of my time creating a unique sales page website for different niches. So I would say to all the doubters that it depends on the person's ability to focus and take action. Then anything is possible in life. Once I've mastered one aspect of IM, I will move onto my next project. Even though, I come from an Accounting background, I am determined to make it. Some of my skills are transferable and remain focused at getting to see the views from top of the hill.

            I'm still on a learning curve but have got a positive mindset and taking action thanks to fellow warriors who have motivated me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by Voasi View Post

      I'm a firm believer in putting yourself in tough financial positions so you HAVE TO make it! It pushes you and forces you to take ACTION! You here lots of "gurus" talking about taking action because it's typically the singular most important part of making money online.

      Most lack the passion to do it. What I mean by passion is that they're comfortable with where they are at. Sure, they "talk" about wanting to start making money online, they post 100's of times here on WF, but at the end of the day, they don't take the ACTION steps to achieve financial success.

      Ross -

      You want to make $5k a month - it's VERY simple do to. The UK market is blowing up in the local arena. All you need is 5 clients paying you $1k a month or 10 clients at $500/mo. to make it happen. VERY, very achievable.

      Get a graphic designer to make you a nice double-sided color flyer that talks about your services, benefits to the client and a case study (not necessary, but will help with conversions!). Get 250 made - shouldn't cost too much.

      Offer a special on the flyer, something along the lines of "$1000/mo for Service".

      Spend 2 days and pass out all the flyers to businesses in your area/London. Make sure to get the owners name and phone number. That way you can follow-up with them. It's important to get the business owners name so you know who to ask for when you go back. Create a Google Doc and manage all the calls, appts and notes for each business you left a flyer at.

      Once you get the owner on the phone, tell them that you're a small boutique internet marketing company only looking for a select few clients to work with. You hand select your clients and after looking at their business, thought that you'd be a perfect match...so much in-fact that you're willing to drop your prices in half ($500/mo.) to get started this again. Again, remind him that you're a small boutique IM company and only want a handfull of clients and that you're talking to 4 other companies today that already expressed some interest.

      Ask questions. Let them speak. They'll tell you the pain points in their business and essentially sell themselves on the services they need from you.

      ...I have no doubt you'll have 4-5 deals by the end of the week.
      Hey Voasi,

      Your the man! Thanks for the motivation and a blue print plan that can work as long as I focus and take the necessary action today. Your ideas are refreshing and unique.

      You may have shown me the true path and I am now even more determined thanks to you. All you warriors have a heart and the help in here is priceless.

      Cheers

      Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author AppsFromHome
    I agree with Voasi.

    I purposely put myself in that position where I NEEDED to be successful after quitting my job. Within the first 4 weeks of putting together my site, filling out business paperwork, and getting my name out there....I landed a personal injury lawyer in Philadelphia. My VERY first client.

    Momentum snow balls and after landing him, I hit my stride and really started to clean up over the next few months....

    It sounds like you have the skill set and motivation...go out and make it happen!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by SDotSpells View Post

      I agree with Voasi.

      I purposely put myself in that position where I NEEDED to be successful after quitting my job. Within the first 4 weeks of putting together my site, filling out business paperwork, and getting my name out there....I landed a personal injury lawyer in Philadelphia. My VERY first client.

      Momentum snow balls and after landing him, I hit my stride and really started to clean up over the next few months....

      It sounds like you have the skill set and motivation...go out and make it happen!
      Thanks buddy. I appreciate your wonderful motivation and support.

      Your absolutely right, I may not have that much IM experience but during my work in the Accounts company, I acquired certain skills that will help with time management, customer service, focusing and taking action:-

      1. I was made to type out a Task list every Monday for all the work tasks for that week. So the the excel spreadsheet would include time management and performance indicators like

      8.30 - 10.00 working on the corporate balance sheet
      10.00-11.00 auditing accounts
      11.00-12.00 checking individual budget monitoring reports for 10 Depts
      and so on Monday to Friday

      2. We had to complete all tasks for that day. So I know how to focus and achieve targets

      3. Also designed the company's booklet so did a lot of graphics work and helped create a 5 page website using WP.

      And other skills that are transferable for my proposed IM business. All I have to do is keep learning from you guys, get an expert coach and start taking action. I have confidence that I can make this work using the daily excel task list skills, website creation, customer service, marketing and so on.

      Cheers

      Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    Celebrate!!! I know people who are millionaires today who got fired years ago and that was just what they needed to FINALLY build their own dreams.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan

    If you can use your account management (sales) skills, you'll be able to sell websites, SEO, mobile sites, who knows what else. Secret is TAKING ACTION.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by kaniganj View Post

      YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

      If you can use your account management (sales) skills, you'll be able to sell websites, SEO, mobile sites, who knows what else. Secret is TAKING ACTION.
      Thanks Jason. Cool and funny video. Your absolutely right. All of us have transferable skills that can be applied well in certain IM businesses and with a positive mindset, time management skills and taking action, I am sure I can reach for the stars.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    If you are serious about making money and making money fast I would suggest consulting to small businesses around you. Walk up to as many businesses that you can in a day and offer them SEO and other related services. Forget 7 hours a day, start by working 12 hours a day at least to get money coming in.

    From my personal experience I would forget flipping sites, as it takes a lot to get a site going, and people won't pay anything for a website unless it's making money first and it has a track record.

    Offer SEO and other consulting services, ones that you can outsource via Fiverr and other related sites. This has really worked for me. Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chicago87
    I just lost my job this Friday, and I have the burning desire to succeed as well. Best of luck to the both of us!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by Chicago87 View Post

      I just lost my job this Friday, and I have the burning desire to succeed as well. Best of luck to the both of us!
      Sorry to hear about your situation Chicago87. We are in the same boat and with so many noble warriors giving their honest and valuable advice, I'm sure we will find answers to our problems.

      Good luck with your future plans
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  • Profile picture of the author jRad
    do both!
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    • Profile picture of the author AppsFromHome
      Originally Posted by jRad View Post

      do both!
      That is one time consuming split test!

      I would focus my efforts on one goal and go for it 100%!

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    My advice has more to do with questions that you need to ask yourself.

    1. With your current savings how long can you pay your bills and not get behind?

    2. You said $5,000 a month but what is the true amount you need to pay the bare minimums?

    3. Which service do you plan to focus on? You can offer more than one but make one your go to piece. Use the others to upsell clients you already have.

    4. Based on the likely profit per client from service number one how many clients do you need to earn enough to pay your bills?

    5. What do you think you likely closing ration is? 1 in 10? 1 in 50? If the number is realistic quadruple it. If you don't know if it is realistic ask us. But quadruple a realistic number fo 1 in 25 becomes 1 in 100.

    With all that math figure out how many prospects you have to contact and how long it will take to contact them. Does your savings run out before this? if so get a job before you start this.

    If the numbers look ok go into this hard for 2 to 3 weeks. I'm talking 8+ hour days 7 days a week. After the 2 to 3 week test if you are on track or better than planned continue. If not put it on the back burner and hard press for a job.

    You can always start a business on the side of a job/job search. But if a business can't pay your bills you must focus on a job first.

    Don't mistake being busy for being productive. There is a huge difference. And in the begining a business is often about being busy while trying to produce.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      My advice has more to do with questions that you need to ask yourself.

      1. With your current savings how long can you pay your bills and not get behind?

      2. You said $5,000 a month but what is the true amount you need to pay the bare minimums?

      3. Which service do you plan to focus on? You can offer more than one but make one your go to piece. Use the others to upsell clients you already have.

      4. Based on the likely profit per client from service number one how many clients do you need to earn enough to pay your bills?

      5. What do you think you likely closing ration is? 1 in 10? 1 in 50? If the number is realistic quadruple it. If you don't know if it is realistic ask us. But quadruple a realistic number fo 1 in 25 becomes 1 in 100.

      With all that math figure out how many prospects you have to contact and how long it will take to contact them. Does your savings run out before this? if so get a job before you start this.

      If the numbers look ok go into this hard for 2 to 3 weeks. I'm talking 8+ hour days 7 days a week. After the 2 to 3 week test if you are on track or better than planned continue. If not put it on the back burner and hard press for a job.

      You can always start a business on the side of a job/job search. But if a business can't pay your bills you must focus on a job first.

      Don't mistake being busy for being productive. There is a huge difference. And in the begining a business is often about being busy while trying to produce.
      Some really thoughtful points Aaron. I will keep that in mind. Cheers buddy
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  • Profile picture of the author jburke81
    I've been there too and never looked back. I have been self employed ever since. Best of luck to you. I took the Network Marketing route and it has paid off for me.

    Consistence is the key to making an income online thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author RentItNow
    Ross, I can give you a perspective from the otherside of the fence. I quit my well paying 9 to 5 back in Sept of 2005 and have not worked for the man since. Looking back, there was only about 3 or 4 days I wish I had not left but my insanity quickly subsided.

    The one thing that took me a lot of hardship to realize was I did not need $5000 a month to live, I needed $5000 a month to keep the lifestyle I was used to. When I realized most of that lifestyle was due to being able to keep the $5000/mn job, the cycle broke. In other words, I didn't need 3/4 of the stuff I thought I needed and changed my lifestyle drastically so I could do WHATEVER work I wanted. In other words, if I needed to make $2000/mn instead, what could I do for that?

    When I looked at life that way and began to look at everything as an asset or liability, my cash flow drastically changed. I also began to look on a much longer time frame.

    Now saying that, I wish I would have moved DIRECTLY into sales and gained that skill as soon as I left the software job. It would have given me the one skill (even though I can make sites, design systems, blah, blah) that would be the MOST valuable to achieving ANY lifestyle I want.

    The one area most people would make money in now is offline marketing. Just focus on the sales side of it WAY WAY more than the technical aspect.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stan
      Originally Posted by RentItNow View Post

      Ross, I can give you a perspective from the otherside of the fence. I quit my well paying 9 to 5 back in Sept of 2005 and have not worked for the man since. Looking back, there was only about 3 or 4 days I wish I had not left but my insanity quickly subsided.

      The one thing that took me a lot of hardship to realize was I did not need $5000 a month to live, I needed $5000 a month to keep the lifestyle I was used to. When I realized most of that lifestyle was due to being able to keep the $5000/mn job, the cycle broke. In other words, I didn't need 3/4 of the stuff I thought I needed and changed my lifestyle drastically so I could do WHATEVER work I wanted. In other words, if I needed to make $2000/mn instead, what could I do for that?

      When I looked at life that way and began to look at everything as an asset or liability, my cash flow drastically changed. I also began to look on a much longer time frame.

      Now saying that, I wish I would have moved DIRECTLY into sales and gained that skill as soon as I left the software job. It would have given me the one skill (even though I can make sites, design systems, blah, blah) that would be the MOST valuable to achieving ANY lifestyle I want.

      The one area most people would make money in now is offline marketing. Just focus on the sales side of it WAY WAY more than the technical aspect.
      Wise words, thanks for sharing that!
      As far as the OT goes, I think you can quietly celebrate. You're here, so you at least know how to go out there and make money without being tied down to a job!
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    1st thing is to take action!
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  • Profile picture of the author greggorio28
    I LOVE this thread!!

    Consider this a blessing in disguise....now you took the guess work out of building a successful business without the stress of your full time job. I am in the process of quitting mine within 3 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by greggorio28 View Post

      I LOVE this thread!!

      Consider this a blessing in disguise....now you took the guess work out of building a successful business without the stress of your full time job. I am in the process of quitting mine within 3 months.
      Hey Greggorio,

      The world is full of opportunities and there's enough money for all of us to make. We just need encouragement, support, information sharing, taking action and being positive. When you have good warriors helping us each step of this IM journey, we can be successful.

      Good luck buddy with your goals and ambition after you leave full time employment.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikelukjaniec
    It happened to me 20 years ago and I remember being traumatised for a while but it got me out of my cumfort zone and made me think about what skills I had and how I could turn those skills into a business!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Originally Posted by mikelukjaniec View Post

      It happened to me 20 years ago and I remember being traumatised for a while but it got me out of my cumfort zone and made me think about what skills I had and how I could turn those skills into a business!
      Thanks Mike. I have gone through the same trauma you went through years ago and also believe that I can turn those skills from my Accounts job to running a successful IM business.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenEakin
    I have been looking at possibly purchasing a website through flippa.com but not without doing a lot of research so as not to get ripped off. This may be a good source of income while you are sorting things out. However as many have stated in this thread there is nothing better than a job and a paycheck at the end of the week while you are building a business during the evening hours.
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    • Profile picture of the author kitzlerqo
      Being sacked is a huge bummer... I dont know what I'd do if i get sacked from my current online marketing job. Maybe i'll go into the business myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Hey Ken,

      I have looked at fliping sites and there are some useful wso's on the subject in here. I know for a fact that any old sites will not sell. As with everything, it's must to look at what's constantly selling on flippa and build those types of sites.

      Cheers

      Originally Posted by KenEakin View Post

      I have been looking at possibly purchasing a website through flippa.com but not without doing a lot of research so as not to get ripped off. This may be a good source of income while you are sorting things out. However as many have stated in this thread there is nothing better than a job and a paycheck at the end of the week while you are building a business during the evening hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Linley
    Hey, if you feel like you have the "calling" to manage an online business and if you believe you can make it (as I see you have the talent and skills to pair that burning desire you have), then go for it! But you may need to consider on reading some helpful guides so you can choose which niche you want to focus on. That way, you won't be wasting too much of your money selling something you aren't sure for yourself. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Hey Mike,

      I appreciate your support. We are all born with different qualities and different mindsets. You hit the nail on the head about my burning desire to succeed. As you can see I have taken action already and focusing on a project right now.

      A great guru has told me that 'perfection can leave you broke' so what I trained myself to do is take action and set guidelines for completion of the project.

      Cheers

      Originally Posted by Mike Linley View Post

      Hey, if you feel like you have the "calling" to manage an online business and if you believe you can make it (as I see you have the talent and skills to pair that burning desire you have), then go for it! But you may need to consider on reading some helpful guides so you can choose which niche you want to focus on. That way, you won't be wasting too much of your money selling something you aren't sure for yourself. Good luck!
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    You should celebrate because believe it or not, this is the start of new doors opening for you.
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    You should celebrate because this is the start of new opportunities that will come knocking on your door.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyke
    I got laid off from my high-paying job at FedEx and couldn't have been happier! I'd been getting more and more sick and tired of the rat race and had tried various other things to get out if it, but nothing panned out. So, while everybody else around me had that look on their faces like it was the end of the world at the meeting where they announced the closure of our facility, I was grinning from ear to ear! One of my former workmates noticed and asked, "What are you looking so happy about?", and I just kept on smiling and told him, "Because I can now do what I've wanted to do for a long time - ANYTHING I WANT!!". I just pictured all the possibilities out there, and couldn't wait to dive in, and I still feel that way 3 years later.

    I tried to explain that to that same workmate of mine, but all he could see was the fact he no longer had a job, and what was he going to do now, etc., same as everybody else in that room. They just couldn't see that here was their chance to make a fresh start, handed to them on a plate.

    And that's the way I'd advise you to see it. And, if it doesn't work out, you could always sign up for MANY more boring days in the life of a chartered accountant again. While the fellow who said you should just go and get another job so you can take care of your family made some very valid - and very eloquent - points, I think you should grab this opportunity with both hands and forge a new life for yourself, hopefully never having to answer to The Man ever again.

    And, by the way, even though I'm from Yorkshire (near Barnsley, in fact) - COME ON, YOU SPURS!

    Best of luck to you,
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
      Hey Ray,

      Thanks buddy for the great motivational response to my thread. Your positive attitude will get you very far in life. You took the bull by the horns! Well done buddy. What aspect of IM did you take up and how's it going?

      I know how you felt when you found out about the redundancies and leaving the rat race. I also felt happy getting sacked and leaving the rat race. It was the beginning of something new for me. Failure is not an option for me.

      It's amazing you live in Yorkshire and you support Spurs. That's impressive as I think some of the best football teams are in the North Of England. It's great to see a warrior with positive attitude, determination to succeed, taking action, focusing and supporting fellow warriors. On top of that you support Spurs! Your a well balanced warrior.

      Originally Posted by Tyke View Post

      I got laid off from my high-paying job at FedEx and couldn't have been happier! I'd been getting more and more sick and tired of the rat race and had tried various other things to get out if it, but nothing panned out. So, while everybody else around me had that look on their faces like it was the end of the world at the meeting where they announced the closure of our facility, I was grinning from ear to ear! One of my former workmates noticed and asked, "What are you looking so happy about?", and I just kept on smiling and told him, "Because I can now do what I've wanted to do for a long time - ANYTHING I WANT!!". I just pictured all the possibilities out there, and couldn't wait to dive in, and I still feel that way 3 years later.

      I tried to explain that to that same workmate of mine, but all he could see was the fact he no longer had a job, and what was he going to do now, etc., same as everybody else in that room. They just couldn't see that here was their chance to make a fresh start, handed to them on a plate.

      And that's the way I'd advise you to see it. And, if it doesn't work out, you could always sign up for MANY more boring days in the life of a chartered accountant again. While the fellow who said you should just go and get another job so you can take care of your family made some very valid - and very eloquent - points, I think you should grab this opportunity with both hands and forge a new life for yourself, hopefully never having to answer to The Man ever again.

      And, by the way, even though I'm from Yorkshire (near Barnsley, in fact) - COME ON, YOU SPURS!

      Best of luck to you,
      Ray
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  • Profile picture of the author shelh39
    I so love this thread, only found this branch of it today, very interesting and informative, you have been given some great advice.
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