Getting high paying Clients for Stonework?

by grey38
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I was told to bring this thread here

My dad has a stonework company. Does fireplaces, walkways, stone siding for homes, etc. His clients can pay anywhere from 1k-300k. He tells me he prefers the bigger jobs, like 10K+, but anything right now will do. How do I go about getting big clients for contractors with a website/facebook?
#clients #high #paying #stonework
  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    To get clients from the Internet, you need to look up to see what keywords
    are being searched for in his location, if any.

    Twitter, Facebook and Youtube are long term strategies that fit into
    overall positioning him as the guru in his area.
    It may not be something he wants to do.

    Then there are offline methods.

    Ask him who are has been his best clients,
    male or female, home owners,business owners,
    new owners, new buildings, locations, why did they go with him
    and not someone else.

    Knowing about those things allows you to write the right message
    and send it to the right people.

    Best,
    Ewen
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    • Profile picture of the author grey38
      from what he's told me, the contractors have given his company the jobs.
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Originally Posted by grey38 View Post

        from what he's told me, the contractors have given his company the jobs.
        Are these building contractors?

        Best,
        Ewen
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    What do the contractors get out of the equation.. what is their benefit? How can that benefit be duplicated?

    Positioning....positioning... positioning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stranger Danger
    I would start with google places. Does your father's company have a google places listing?
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    • Profile picture of the author grey38
      he literally has no online presence.
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      • Profile picture of the author rushindo
        Originally Posted by grey38 View Post

        he literally has no online presence.
        Don't be overwhelmed with the number of private messages you are probably going to get. You WILL get them now that people know he doesn't even have a website.

        First off, if he has no online presence, then he needs a website.

        There are 3 things a contractor needs on their website.

        1. Pictures of staff and preferably the owner (your father). This is very important.

        2. Lots of pictures of his work (preferably with testimonials about that particular job).

        3. Information, information, information. Educate people about stonework and anything that the customer would find valuable. This can be in the form of text, but video is much better.

        A website is the first step before you even think about doing anything else online.

        Does he want to do commercial or residential? Depending on the answer, he will need to go about things slightly differently, and his website should be setup slightly differently, depending upon if he is targeting commercial or residential.
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Who are these contractors that have given him jobs?

        We want to get more from them, and find others like them who will do the same.

        Gotta optimize what's been working first before running off
        after things that "might" work, like a website.

        Best,
        Ewen
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    Ewen and Millard both touched on this, and I think the best bang for your buck here may be a joint venture with other local businesses who are out and can spot possible prospects for you every day.

    Think of how many walkways, fireplaces and stone sided homes local landscape or painting companies see every week? What if you found 10 local companies who each sent your dad a job a month?

    By all means see what people are searching for locally and try to get a website together that ranks for those terms, but don't overlook the offline possibilities that are all around you too.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author grey38
    Great tips, Steve, what will be their incentive for helping my dads company get the clients?, the landscapers and painter. Also how will they get the clients for my dad? Just give us the number? or give the family a card?

    If there are any more tips keep em coming please.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
      Originally Posted by grey38 View Post

      Great tips, Steve, what will be their incentive for helping my dads company get the clients?, the landscapers and painter. Also how will they get the clients for my dad? Just give us the number? or give the family a card?

      If there are any more tips keep em coming please.
      If your dads business is on a level playing field with another business and you both stood to make the same on a job, I'd say just do an informal joint venture without any cash involved.

      If you've got a landscaper sending you clients that are worth many thousands to you though, I think you need to work out some kind of reasonable "finders fee" based on how much it currently costs your dad to get a new client.

      As far as the actual promotion goes, I'd have your dad print up some doorhangers or brochures that your jv partners could distribute for you whenever they see a job you might be interested in.

      At this point I usually tell people to go out and buy Jay Abraham's excellent book, "Getting Everything You Can out of All that You've Got" which has all kinds of great marketing advice, but you can now get it for free with just your email address.

      I probably read through that book twice a year and each time I pick up on more fantastic marketing ideas.

      Good luck!

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author grey38
    Also where does one go to find contractors to give out this work?
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    If there was an indication you can get some web traffic, I would have a sniper site built, with an EMD , rank it quickly, and design it just to get a phone call or opt-in.

    New thing for me to test out here, but I have done this in 3 large cities in the past couple of weeks, ranked on first page, but not at the top for all keywords, and it has generated some phone call leads, even this early in the stage.

    Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    I know it doesn't involve facebook/website but I've done direct mail for my remodeling company that advertised stone. We got a lot of jobs in a very short amount of time however I subbed all the work out to people who ended up being crappy stone masons. Ended up being profitable but really had a lot of issues like mortar running down the rocks because they installed them in the opposite order.

    I'd like to actually start pushing stone veneer (the cultured stone stuff) again but not until I find some people experienced to work in it that don't charge a fortune.


    Anyways here's what brought in a lot of business...

    I sent out saturation mailings (at the time, EDDM wasn't available but now you can use EDDM and you won't need a permit), and saturated every home in those big developments where everyone's home looks the same.

    I'm sure you have these developments around you, typically in suburb areas. Those neighborhoods where everyone's house is basically a repeat of each others but they are big nice houses. These people tend to want ANYTHING that will separate them from their neighbors homes. They have the money, they have egos, and they like to "be the joneses" or try to keep up with them.

    Get a few thousand postcards (at least 6.5"x8") and put a good offer for them to get an estimate on stone veneer accents on it. Then use the post offices EDDM program to send them out to those neighborhoods for 14.5cents each and do at least two mailings.
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    • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      I know it doesn't involve facebook/website but I've done direct mail for my remodeling company that advertised stone. We got a lot of jobs in a very short amount of time however I subbed all the work out to people who ended up being crappy stone masons. Ended up being profitable but really had a lot of issues like mortar running down the rocks because they installed them in the opposite order.

      I'd like to actually start pushing stone veneer (the cultured stone stuff) again but not until I find some people experienced to work in it that don't charge a fortune.


      Anyways here's what brought in a lot of business...

      I sent out saturation mailings (at the time, EDDM wasn't available but now you can use EDDM and you won't need a permit), and saturated every home in those big developments where everyone's home looks the same.

      I'm sure you have these developments around you, typically in suburb areas. Those neighborhoods where everyone's house is basically a repeat of each others but they are big nice houses. These people tend to want ANYTHING that will separate them from their neighbors homes. They have the money, they have egos, and they like to "be the joneses" or try to keep up with them.

      Get a few thousand postcards (at least 6.5"x8") and put a good offer for them to get an estimate on stone veneer accents on it. Then use the post offices EDDM program to send them out to those neighborhoods for 14.5cents each and do at least two mailings.
      Hey Jake,

      Have you tried selling stone veneer during the recession or was it all pre-recession? I've sold quite a bit of natural stone and veneers, but the prices gone down substantially in last 4 years.


      Thomas
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Having been in the construction industry for 20 years and being the son of an expert interior designer of over 40 years, I'd start with the popular and successful interior designers who do high end jobs.

    I'd also recommend trying to network with architects, supply houses, and custom home builders as well. These will be your quickest way to get something going for new work.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaxReferrals
    I'd be leveraging Facebook for him. For that audience, I'd think females
    would be all over Liking his work, and photos. Could be a great source
    of leads and Word of Mouth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mobile Tactics
    Put up a site showing the quality of work he can do, and then get a list of contractors that do a lot of business, and start mailing them. The contractors could start selling his services and marking up the price, that is their incentive.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjbwebs
      Wow, lots of great comments here.

      My 2 pennies..

      As a current brick and mortar busienss owner a combination of things work best for me..

      I have and internet presence via;
      • website
      • Google places listing
      • Facebook page
      • Twitter account (being sure to add local lateral businesses)
      • YouTube Chanel
      I use direct mail software that allows me to target specific homes based on the value of the home.

      I utilize door to door marketing (flyers/door hangers and event distribution)

      The later two provide the bulk of my business.
      The internet builds creditability and gives my current and potential customers a place to go and return to ...

      This is what works for me right now!

      cjbwebs
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    Originally Posted by grey38 View Post

    I was told to bring this thread here

    My dad has a stonework company. Does fireplaces, walkways, stone siding for homes, etc. His clients can pay anywhere from 1k-300k. He tells me he prefers the bigger jobs, like 10K+, but anything right now will do. How do I go about getting big clients for contractors with a website/facebook?
    If you want to go after big clients, you must target high end builders, designers and architects. Most of the big and prestigious project are in their hands. Suppliers are also a great resource.

    Also, don't forget to put your hands on lists of new construction permits issued in your area. Master Builders Assoc will have it, but you might get outside of their organization.

    You need to create an image of being the "go to guy". To be considered one, you have to knowledgeable (read latest magazines, go to expos and shows), be upbeat, energetic and vibrant. Show them your long term plans.

    Majority of other business people want to surround themselves with positive and ambitious people. It lifts them up. They love to talk about new materials, new technologies and developments in their region. If you want to be an insider, you have become one. That's how you get the big and most prestigious jobs. Others are just laborers...

    Thomas

    PS. If you plan doing commercial projects (big money makers), get to know EVERY estimator for all contractors in your area. Those guys, often change employers, but ALWAYS maintain their contact lists. You want to be in EVERYONE'S rolodex.

    Keep in touch with everyone. Start a blog and youtube channel. Share latest news and developments.

    Buy into construction data bulletins. They give you access to all goverment, public and commercial projects. You not only get acces to blueprints, but also contact info of estimators, architects and contractors bidding those jobs.

    That's it. Easy!
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