How much should I charge a Jacksonville Bankruptcy Attorney?

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So I have peaked some interest of a local Jacksonville, FL attorney. That asked me how much would I charge to rank their website. I have built some rapport with them through some free services I have provided. I am just a beginner and I am going to outsource everything.

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The website was built with Host Gator site builder and I want to transfer it to wordpress.


How much should I charge for setup and monthly?

I had an idea of charging half the setup fee 1st then when they are on the 1st page of google the other half. Then the monthly maintenance goes into action.
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  • Profile picture of the author yohanaton
    I think I would charge the full set up fee to start since you'll be spending time/$$ on the conversion.
    Then charge them once your seo services have taken affect...
    I would as well take screen shots of where their site is now in the various serp's so you can show them the progress with screen shots over time... Make sure you clear the cache...
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdog1
    I disagree I think charging half up front is a good sign of trust, it's what I do and it has worked before - clients like to know they're actually going to get there and you get a nice little lump sum when they get the service as paid for.

    In UK pounds I charge £300-400 to get them there - half up front and half upon success. then £30-50 per month after that.

    I have found that some clients come back to promote more keywords after you successfully get them their page one
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    • Well if you are new at this and don't have a lot of case studies or proof you can deliver you may need to do the 1st couple clients on the low end.

      But once you build up confidence and know you can deliver 1000 a month or so is in the ballpark for that type of market.

      But it depends in part what you are doing. If they already had a good site and you were doing Google Places and local SEO, a pro might charge around 1000 - 1500 a month. But if building a site too they may change 5K up front just for the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    I wouldn't charge anything less than 3K to set up a 5 keyword campagin, optimize the site and content, a no less than 1500 a month for those same 5 keywords. Oh, and you want a website? We are looking more towards 8-10K for the set up deal..

    That is without looking at the google keyword tool image (which I can not see). These are just numbers that jump out at me.

    Assumingly, 1 client covers their SEO expenses for a while. With decent search volume, and decent page that converts traffic into callers/leads - they should make way more than they pay you.

    I don't do attorneys, so I do not know, I strictly went on percieved value of their client and how much money they stand to make from a decent ranking, which is alot more than the 36K/ first year you would ask for. (the set up + monthly)

    As I typed that out, I would actually ask for more than that, but it does not seem like you have the confidence to ask for it (they can tell when you ask for something you are unsure of your self, like a bad smell, and they will say no).

    Also - they are use to free stuff from you, so while it got you in the door, not sure what you can sell them now, they are use to paying you nothing. (you would have been better off giving a huge discount, at least they are use to paying you something)

    Maybe they are straight shooters and will appreciate your free efforts and reward you with a nice contract, but I doubt it ..

    Best of luck in your endeavours, don't cut your self short if you can do what you are selling them.

    Ry
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Well.. first off, your numbers are wrong. Those are broad match, not exact match.

    The value in a #1 ranking for bankruptcy attorneys isn't very high. They don't make anything off chapter 7's really, only chapter 13 bankruptcy... which out of the REAL volume you will have, you will only get maybe 5-10 leads a month... it isn't worth it to them to do over 1k/mo. You'd be around a 500/mo range.

    How do I know? Because I have a top 3 ranking site for the exact keywords you are going for, same market.. we don't even do monthly anymore... just every other month now. He's made a profit, but the ROI isn't as high as it is in other markets.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post


      How do I know? Because I have a top 3 ranking site for the exact keywords you are going for, same market.. we don't even do monthly anymore... just every other month now. He's made a profit, but the ROI isn't as high as it is in other markets.
      Sucks for the OP.

      I never pegged you to have a bankruptcy client.. hmmm

      You and David Miller can have the attorneys.

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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

        Sucks for the OP.

        I never pegged you to have a bankruptcy client.. hmmm

        You and David Miller can have the attorneys.

        Ry
        500/mo, adds up for bankruptcy attorneys, and my clients get ranked fast.. like 1-2 weeks after a couple hours of work, fast.. you're thinking of it in a negative way though.. I'm getting paid $500/mo to have someone bring me MORE business. Low maintenance because nobody that competes knows what they're doing really, so the up front work is pretty much it. I might have one of my $1-2/hr troopers do some monthly work to continue building strength, but its easy money, low competition.

        I have lots of clients.. bankruptcy lawyer, a judge, I run political marketing campaigns, defense attorney, family law firm, personal injury attorneys... to medical... doctors, psychs, nurse practitioners, chiropractors, counselors, models, agencies, photographers, roofers, remodelers, engineers, excavating companies, cleaning companies.. LOL

        I'm not picky enough to say a certain profession isn't good enough for me. Although, I don't work with psychics, and I get super annoyed when they call me and tell me about what they do and they want a quote. They should already know what I'm going to say...
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        • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          500/mo, adds up for bankruptcy attorneys, and my clients get ranked fast.. like 1-2 weeks after a couple hours of work, fast.. you're thinking of it in a negative way though.. I'm getting paid $500/mo to have someone bring me MORE business. Low maintenance because nobody that competes knows what they're doing really, so the up front work is pretty much it. I might have one of my $1-2/hr troopers do some monthly work to continue building strength, but its easy money, low competition.

          I have lots of clients.. bankruptcy lawyer, a judge, I run political marketing campaigns, defense attorney, family law firm, personal injury attorneys... to medical... doctors, psychs, nurse practitioners, chiropractors, counselors, models, agencies, photographers, roofers, remodelers, engineers, excavating companies, cleaning companies.. LOL

          I'm not picky enough to say a certain profession isn't good enough for me. Although, I don't work with psychics, and I get super annoyed when they call me and tell me about what they do and they want a quote. They should already know what I'm going to say...
          Now now nameless, I never think in a negative way sir. The glass is always half full!

          I am the best lemonade maker in the world -

          I don't discriminate, I just prefer* -

          I also said "I don't do attorneys, so I do not know, I strictly went on percieved value of their client and how much money they stand to make from a decent ranking, which is alot more than the 36K/ first year you would ask for. (the set up + monthly) "

          Lol, I just threw out numbers. The idea was this: they make more than they pay you, usually a substantial amount more, everyone wins.
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        • Profile picture of the author element94_2007
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post


          I have lots of clients.. bankruptcy lawyer, a judge, I run political marketing campaigns, defense attorney, family law firm, personal injury attorneys... to medical... doctors, psychs, nurse practitioners, chiropractors, counselors, models, agencies, photographers, roofers, remodelers, engineers, excavating companies, cleaning companies.. LOL
          How do you beat the Google places listings ?
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        • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post


          I have lots of clients.. bankruptcy lawyer, a judge, I run political marketing campaigns, defense attorney, family law firm, personal injury attorneys... to medical... doctors, psychs, nurse practitioners, chiropractors, counselors, models, agencies, photographers, roofers, remodelers, engineers, excavating companies, cleaning companies.. LOL
          For all these niches that you are in do you first setup a website to rank and the go after clients to sign up for that site and then modify the site to their needs or do you work off their own site and get that their Google Places to the "A" or even better their website above the 7 pack?
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  • Originally Posted by mike3188 View Post

    This is for SEO services

    So I have peaked some interest of a local Jacksonville, FL attorney. That asked me how much would I charge to rank their website. I have built some rapport with them through some free services I have provided. I am just a beginner and I am going to outsource everything.

    Here is a KW tool screenshot


    The website was built with Host Gator site builder and I want to transfer it to wordpress.


    How much should I charge for setup and monthly?

    I had an idea of charging half the setup fee 1st then when they are on the 1st page of google the other half. Then the monthly maintenance goes into action.
    If you really, really want to know, then you NEED to read this thread:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-services.html

    Hope this helped ya out!

    Cheers,

    JMB
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  • Profile picture of the author ConnorMarc
    That's a good question.

    Even better are the answers.

    Seems that some of the answers use the logic that the type of business determines the cost of the price to the client? As in how much money the client stands to make from the services performed. vs. a predetermined cost for services based on the work to be performed.

    Interesting...
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  • Profile picture of the author geotargeted
    I have 2 bk clients. They don't get a ton of business from their A slot places pages I got for them. The traffic numbers are 5x in their markets too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Its not about the monthly searches its about the number of competing pages you are going up against. This will determine the amount of effort required to rank at or near the top.

    So what one must do is find a medium between searches and competing pages and let said client know that just because you may get them to the top of Google they won't necessarily get a **** ton of leads, esp if search volume is low.

    Being at the top of Google has other benefits besides new leads though. Branding and awareness are also important factors in being seen at the top as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Im waiting to see one of those lawyer TV commercials where they brag about multiple places on page one of google and use that as a method to imply that they are better than everyone else.

    "Google is the #1 search engine in the world, people type in what they are looking for and the best results according to Google show up on page 1. Lets see what happens when we type in xxxxxx"
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler View Post

      Im waiting to see one of those lawyer TV commercials where they brag about multiple places on page one of google and use that as a method to imply that they are better than everyone else.

      "Google is the #1 search engine in the world, people type in what they are looking for and the best results according to Google show up on page 1. Lets see what happens when we type in xxxxxx"
      I have actually asked many friends, why they click on the sites they click on when they search, and this is more times than not what they say..

      "Google trusts them, and they must be the best at what they do" paraphrased.
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  • Profile picture of the author atrbiz
    I would charge around $500/month.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Bucker
    When pricing remember this. The attorney is NOT filing bankruptcy so your good. He wants a high ranking for the purpose of making money. Charge him to make that money. Evidence is important as this is a lawyer. The more evidence you have the more you can charge. Show all your evidence which he wont understand it all then make it easy for him because you are going to handle it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mike3188
    Thank you everyone for your input
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  • Profile picture of the author saunterer
    I think some of the answer need logic. It all depend upon you What you charge and how much you charge. Charge whatever you think is reasonable to be charged.
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