You have a better shot of hitting the lottery than to rank a video!!

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Video ranking SEO is a myth!

It doesn't work . haha


I have been networking with a big WSO guy lately. He taught me a few things that helped me rank decent sized keywords. Well, I got diarrhea of the mouth and popped off to him and Adam Dukes that I was going to rank a video for a big keyword in Atlanta. They all thought I was crazy and it couldn't be done. Also, along the way I popped in Ryan's chat group to tell them what I was trying to pull off. They were thinking " oh hell, here comes this Alabama redneck on his commodore 64 thinking he is gonna take over the internets". haha


Well 13 days later, they now believe that SEO videos works! Type in "Atlanta Dentist" . See what video is on page 1. John Durham, Ryan McKinney, David Miller , and Adam Dukes will all vouch that is their crazy redneck buddy from Alabama's Youtube channel.


Now, I hope the calls start coming in so I have a reason to go back to Atlanta in the next week.I went this past week for Google Engage training. Well, I gtg anyway on June 8th for John Smoltz retirement. I am diehard Atlanta Braves fan. If this message inspired you to take action, just pm me for my address. I will gladly accept dugout seats for a braves game in return
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    Good for you!
    You are right, video seo is not a myth...

    Although, I would encourage people to keep thinking that...
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  • Profile picture of the author xichabodx
    From one Alabamian to another...

    Awesome!

    *we're just now getting the internets in the Heart of Dixie, so look for us to dominate the search engines soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author mojo1
    Cool video in a hot market for all things dental. Atlantans love keeping those grills nice and bright.

    You're one of the hardest working men in this biz. Please keep us posted on how well those checks start rollling in
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  • Profile picture of the author shockwave
    Good job on getting it to the front page Rolltide. Get it to one of the top 3 positions and you'll have a ridiculous amount of calls coming in -- probably more than any one dentist can actually handle! You're gonna have to sell the leads to MULTIPLE dentist!!
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  • Profile picture of the author jspmedia
    so what kind of seo work you did for the video? I saw you did some youtube views, blog comments as a one of backlinks..whatelse?

    great job though..trying to rank above places now..
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Good job bro! Oh also I see he's got some videos ranking ABOVE places in some niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    I appreciate all the nice comments!
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Now make money from it... that is ultimately the only thing that matters.. right?
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    you are 100 percent correct iamnameless!!!!!!!!!!!!


    also, the social proof won't hurt when selling it to others as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    the time you spent here , you could have spent making money.

    when did I say it couldn't be done you cracker?

    That video should be worth 15k easy for the year EASY.

    I would take down the exact video or trolls will mess with your clients , fyi

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    • Profile picture of the author PhilaPM
      Originally Posted by ryanmckinney View Post

      That video should be worth 15k easy for the year EASY.

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      Can you explain how this video would be worth 15K/year? Is a dentist really going to pay over $1,000/month for that video?
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      • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
        Originally Posted by PhilaPM View Post

        Can you explain how this video would be worth 15K/year? Is a dentist really going to pay over $1,000/month for that video?
        Above poster nailed it.

        Also - if he tracks the calls and gets a metric prior to getting rid of it, say two weeks, or a month ( I say get rid of it now, but just for an example here)

        Let's say in 2 weeks it generates 20 calls. You can offer $50 per, or a flat rental rate that looks more enticing because it should come out to rent less than the per call model.

        "As you can see this averages 40 calls a month - I charge $50 per call, so right around 2K for the month, I also offer a rental package for this at $1497 a month"

        The rental model is almost 18K for the year. Rank a website with that video? PSSHH. $$$$$

        From what I have experienced - the professionals are slighty harder to close down on the per lead, as the contractor types are primed for that model (per lead) - Dr's like paying the same amount per month for things, they are just use to that.

        I do know people, however, that have per lead model's with Dr's as well.

        Either way, that video is worth a nice yearly income right now as is.

        Ry
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  • Profile picture of the author bobmcalister
    well I am in atlanta and did the search with no videos on first page ...it does seem that G is not returning the youtube vids like before , or is that just me ? thanks
    @ryan...guessing you are surely teasing our redneck friend ?

    ok had the search term reversed , and there you are bottom of page nine...good for you !
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  • Profile picture of the author Prateek Dwivedi
    I have practically been making my living off video SEO, its anything but a myth.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrcghill
      Originally Posted by Prateek Dwivedi View Post

      I have practically been making my living off video SEO, its anything but a myth.
      Same with me as well
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    Of course I was teasing him, I feel like the proud parent whose kid just found his cause in life.

    Ry
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  • Profile picture of the author maricelu
    I have some videos on top of google for terms like landscaping city but never have been tracking the results. Do you think it is ok to use a different number on my youtube video so that I can see how it goes with it? Do you guys do that? Personally, I've used video link-wheels + reciprocal comments and it looks like it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author AussieT
    If this is the number in your video then you are showing up in position one from a search done in Australia

    Well done
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  • Profile picture of the author kcom
    Charge $50 a lead, only takes 25 leads a month to equal $15k annually
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  • Profile picture of the author gg282
    Well this is encouraging! I had just about given up on video marketing as I have not had much luck ranking videos in large metropolitan areas. I am going to have to try this again!
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  • Profile picture of the author rugman
    Hey rolltide - nice job! BTW - been meaning to ask you - you don't happen to be the same rolltide that hangs out on a certain kayak fishing site are ya?
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Rugman-This is the only forum I frequent.
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    I just checked this and its the last listing on page one. I noticed there are no thumbnails showing either, which is something I have not seen lately. I hope the Big G doesn't get rid of those thumbnails for videos. Any calls yet on this video Chris?
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  • Profile picture of the author TimD
    Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

    Video ranking SEO is a myth!

    It doesn't work . haha


    I have been networking with a big WSO guy lately. He taught me a few things that helped me rank decent sized keywords. Well, I got diarrhea of the mouth and popped off to him and Adam Dukes that I was going to rank a video for a big keyword in Atlanta. They all thought I was crazy and it couldn't be done. Also, along the way I popped in Ryan's chat group to tell them what I was trying to pull off. They were thinking " oh hell, here comes this Alabama redneck on his commodore 64 thinking he is gonna take over the internets". haha


    Well 13 days later, they now believe that SEO videos works! Type in "Atlanta Dentist" . See what video is on page 1. John Durham, Ryan McKinney, David Miller , and Adam Dukes will all vouch that is their crazy redneck buddy from Alabama's Youtube channel.


    Now, I hope the calls start coming in so I have a reason to go back to Atlanta in the next week.I went this past week for Google Engage training. Well, I gtg anyway on June 8th for John Smoltz retirement. I am diehard Atlanta Braves fan. If this message inspired you to take action, just pm me for my address. I will gladly accept dugout seats for a braves game in return
    I don't doubt you can rank a video. I have 38 videos on page one right now.

    My doubt is that videos really drive traffic or inquiries. I think they can when you have an actual product to demo or an expert giving FAQs. But most generic videos that you rank speculatively are so lame they don't drive inquiries.

    Like the one you have up. That essentially gets the dentist's phone number at the top of page one because it's in the title of video.

    But the video itself is a placeholder. It has no evidence, no reasons to believe the dentist is good, nothing that would make the viewer follow up.

    So essentially, you've ranked a phone number.
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    • Profile picture of the author shockwave
      Originally Posted by TimD View Post

      I don't doubt you can rank a video. I have 38 videos on page one right now.

      My doubt is that videos really drive traffic or inquiries. I think they can when you have an actual product to demo or an expert giving FAQs. But most generic videos that you rank speculatively are so lame they don't drive inquiries.

      Like the one you have up. That essentially gets the dentist's phone number at the top of page one because it's in the title of video.

      But the video itself is a placeholder. It has no evidence, no reasons to believe the dentist is good, nothing that would make the viewer follow up.

      So essentially, you've ranked a phone number.
      I don't want to turn this thread into a ongoing argument about the effectiveness of video marketing - BUT, the 3-4 live calls per day that just 1 of my dental niche sites generates per day begs to differ with your viewpoint. (And yes, I have the live recorded calls to prove it).

      Granted, I'm sure video marketing doesn't "drive traffic or inquiries" for every type of business, but for the dental and construction niches it surely does.

      You can see a rant I've posted on my experiences with Dentists "Dentists [Lesson Learned] - Local Lead Generation" - trust me, videos drive PLENTY of traffic (live calls). The real challenge is finding someone to willing to do a pay-per-lead or site/video rental.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimD
        Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

        I don't want to turn this thread into a ongoing argument about the effectiveness of video marketing - BUT, the 3-4 live calls per day that just 1 of my dental niche sites generates per day begs to differ with your viewpoint. (And yes, I have the live recorded calls to prove it).
        I appreciate your desire not to hijack this thread. And I would love to hear what you have to say about making videos convert. I would be very glad to hear that I'm doing things wrong.

        I literally have had 38 videos ranked on page one for various attorney niches. They get very few views. Maybe it's the wrong niche.

        I did a project with dozens with warriors setting up video sites and ranking them and we ranked hundreds of videos on page one could lease barely any of them.

        I say this not to argue with you but to say that if you know of better niches or better tactics I would be very grateful to hear them. And if I need to start a new thread to engage you in that discussion I'd do it in a heart beat.

        Thanks for your post.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
        Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

        (And yes, I have the live recorded calls to prove it).
        LOL! Live recorded. You guys crack me up.
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        • Profile picture of the author shockwave
          Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

          LOL! Live recorded. You guys crack me up.
          Ha! The 'ol double entendre! I surely can't claim to be an English major.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
      Originally Posted by TimD View Post

      I don't doubt you can rank a video. I have 38 videos on page one right now.

      My doubt is that videos really drive traffic or inquiries. I think they can when you have an actual product to demo or an expert giving FAQs. But most generic videos that you rank speculatively are so lame they don't drive inquiries.

      Like the one you have up. That essentially gets the dentist's phone number at the top of page one because it's in the title of video.

      But the video itself is a placeholder. It has no evidence, no reasons to believe the dentist is good, nothing that would make the viewer follow up.

      So essentially, you've ranked a phone number.

      My bank account disagrees with you, sir.

      I wouldn't over analyze the simplicity of this method. People tend to take something simple, and make it hard.

      Ry
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    • Profile picture of the author mmiys
      Originally Posted by TimD View Post


      So essentially, you've ranked a phone number.
      YEAHHH! How many clients get their website ranked and don't get calls? Ranking the phone number is the most important thing to rank!
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Ryan knows a thing or 2 about ranking videos!
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    i'm not looking to write a wso...howevever, i will give every bit of info i have to rank for hugely competitive keywords for anyone to give me some dugout seats to june 8th braves game
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    • Profile picture of the author mraffiliate
      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      i'm not looking to write a wso...howevever, i will give every bit of info i have to rank for hugely competitive keywords for anyone to give me some dugout seats to june 8th braves game
      I sent you a PM offering cash, but sorry I don't hve dugout seats for the braves game. By the way what would a seat like this cost, maybe I can buy it for you?
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  • Profile picture of the author bobmcalister
    tickets are about 150...and yes, videos do work ...I use them ...and have for several years.
    main thing I do is run the video in an ad on facebook, and then you get views, and up the ratings. I have noticed that G is not showing the thumbnails on every search for some reason.
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    • Profile picture of the author mraffiliate
      Originally Posted by bobmcalister View Post

      tickets are about 150...and yes, videos do work ...I use them ...and have for several years.
      main thing I do is run the video in an ad on facebook, and then you get views, and up the ratings. I have noticed that G is not showing the thumbnails on every search for some reason.
      Recently embedded YouTube videos on blogs have been ranking on Google organic and pointing to the blog instead of YouTube so maybe Google is changing things up again making thumbnails not showing. Just a guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    the dugout seats comment was a joke
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    • Profile picture of the author mraffiliate
      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      the dugout seats comment was a joke
      I figured it was but my cash offer isn't a joke
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      • Profile picture of the author BigMak
        Great work, rolltide!

        Do you find you're having better luck with shorter vids (30-45 sec.) or longer ones (~1.5 min)?

        Thanks!

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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    honestly, i can't tell a difference regarding the link. i just seo em till there where i want em. easy as that!
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  • Profile picture of the author AussieT
    Rolltide

    Contratulations of getting such a competitive video ranked on first page. I think I have worked out how you did it.

    Have you had any success in actually selling/renting the leads generated from these videos?

    Hoping you will say yes, so it will spur me on.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Aussie T-Unforunately, you don't have a tenth of the info I have used to get my video where it is at today. I have many different sources I used to pull off this massive undertaking.


    The video hit the first page yesterday morning. This is a holiday weekend. NO, I haven't been able to rent this video out yet. haha


    If you need me to say "yes", you are in the wrong business. I didn't rank big a@@ keywords by sitting around waiting for someone's approval. I busted my rear end and spent a lot of time, money, and energy to get to where I am today with my video marketing.


    All I can tell you is to TAKE ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author mraffiliate
      I sent you an email to the address you gave me in your last PM
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    Be careful about the laws behind recording calls , I wouldn't want you guys in jail .

    Even when you close someone , they may want calls recorded for qc purposes , still check the state laws.


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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    video marketing is hands down the easiest kind of seo to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author 9999
    I saw this post right after the OP posted it, there were 3 views and now there are over 5000 views. Great work!

    I wonder if renting the site out for $997/month maybe higher or doing a pay per lead would be a better option?
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  • Profile picture of the author WandaW
    Great job! Comes up for me right under Google Places and it has a thumbnail.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    make sure to like the video
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  • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
    can you recommend any specific guides or courses to teach us how to do what you did, or is this thread just to make us all jealous...?
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    i got my start through Mr. Ryan McKinney's course. that works great for ranking local keywords. through trial and error, I figured out the keys to ranking competitive keywords for around $50 a pop.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaallday2010
    Over 5,000 views? Did you pay someone on fiverr for visitors, or is all that traffic from us Warriors?
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      can you recommend any specific guides or courses to teach us how to do what you did, or is this thread just to make us all jealous...?

      Could you put in a nutshell...a bulleted list to help us with our SEO? I am feeling scattered with info from 100 places. It'd be nice if it was condensed for us here and you sure seem to know what you're doing rolltide...if you don't mind educating us.
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    #2 organic ranking last check. Nicely done Tide.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    Thank you sir!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Hello! Wow. Great job mate. keep it up and way to go. More power.
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    Good job dude! Totally jealous of you going to the retirement at Turner field. I remember I used to have a poster of Smoltz, Maddox and Avery up on my wall when I was a kid. Late 90's Braves were a thing to behold.

    Great work on the video SEO! I have a video I'm trying to rank for a local client - how long did this take you?
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    I started with Ryan McKinney's first WSO. Then, I ran with it from there. I have taught one person on the forum already. He bought me a dugout Braves seat in return. I have given him much more in return than just video ranking. I have had numerous requests to write a WSO. I am from Alabama. Y'all know we can't write
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    I rank most in a week. This one took 2 weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMguy123
      Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

      I rank most in a week. This one took 2 weeks.
      2 questions:..or 3
      Do your videos stay at the top? I did the "Atlanta Dentist" search from where I am and also changed location (Google's Change location option) to find that your video is on the second page.

      And...how many clients have you been able to sell leads or rent to using this video marketing service you do? Is it difficult to get a client sold?
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    The Atlanta term bounces back through the day. I have a few lead clients already.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    People need a good call to action when viewing videos. They have the mindset of viewing vids online for entertainment/info. I think its a huge opportunity for online marketing.

    I used to live in Atlanta and got into the world series for free. I knew a fulton cty cop on duty and he walked me in, in handcuffs. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author zacsmith
    I've been experimenting with Ryan's methods (although I build the sites using AJ Lane and Joe Troyer's system) and got a video ranked #2 (after AdWords) in five hours, the website within two days of making it "public'

    Today it's at the #2 page 1 position. Bounces around from day to day. The website I built for it to link to has 3 of 10 positions on page 1, usually outranking "real" sites by vendors.

    Needless to say, I'm ramping this up. I wan't much into videos until I tried this, but now I'm a convert! Planning videos for all my commerce sites.

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  • Profile picture of the author mavericx
    Hey Rolltide,

    Wanted to check in and see how that video is working out for ya. Has it been generating any leads?
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  • Profile picture of the author FormerWageSlave
    Yeah, do tell. I have two videos up. One is ranking page 1, but the roofing one is way down. And Google stopped showing the rich snippet thumbnail on the roofing vid too? What is up with that?
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  • Profile picture of the author cwill184
    I've just created a video and done the lottery. Wonder which will be succesful first!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Originally Posted by rolltide View Post

    Video ranking SEO is a myth!

    It doesn't work . haha


    I have been networking with a big WSO guy lately. He taught me a few things that helped me rank decent sized keywords. Well, I got diarrhea of the mouth and popped off to him and Adam Dukes that I was going to rank a video for a big keyword in Atlanta. They all thought I was crazy and it couldn't be done. Also, along the way I popped in Ryan's chat group to tell them what I was trying to pull off. They were thinking " oh hell, here comes this Alabama redneck on his commodore 64 thinking he is gonna take over the internets". haha


    Well 13 days later, they now believe that SEO videos works! Type in "Atlanta Dentist" . See what video is on page 1. John Durham, Ryan McKinney, David Miller , and Adam Dukes will all vouch that is their crazy redneck buddy from Alabama's Youtube channel.


    Now, I hope the calls start coming in so I have a reason to go back to Atlanta in the next week.I went this past week for Google Engage training. Well, I gtg anyway on June 8th for John Smoltz retirement. I am diehard Atlanta Braves fan. If this message inspired you to take action, just pm me for my address. I will gladly accept dugout seats for a braves game in return
    I ran across this thread a few days late I guess, the reason I stopped is because I read Rolltide under the title and I thought "I'd better open this, if Rolltide is saying it then it might have some validity...." , only to open up and see that some Alabama redneck on a commodore 64 is taking over the internet!

    ...there is hope for me yet!! lol


    Edit: "marketingwoosley"- Yup thats you! Amazing that you could rank for a keyword like that in such a town!
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  • Profile picture of the author mason1
    dude.. i couldnt find the video on the 1st 5 pages..thats why i gave this stuff up..
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  • Profile picture of the author mason1
    just too bad it didnt stay ranked long....
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  • Profile picture of the author bobmcalister
    well...feel sorry for dentists myself. they have to be called every day. btw..on my mobile, there is no video on first 3 pages. atlanta dentist..
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  • Profile picture of the author Ethan F.
    Yeah.. well he got it up there with spam and fake views etc etc... it was bound to fall eventually
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      Whoopps! It Appears the "Money-Tree" is over!

      Google has apparently removed the MAIN REASON WHY businesses pay GOOD MONEY for "1st Page Videos".....the FULL COLOR THUMBNAIL.... which causes consumers to Click on the Video.

      Here's an example; One of the big-guys on Ranking Videos is Mark Helton. For a long time, he's had TOP Ranking for "Tampa Windows" with a Full Color Thumbnail causing viewers to "Stop & Click"!

      Well....when I checked this afternoon, the Video was still on Top BUT, the Thumbnail was GONE!

      So....you think you had a hard time finding clients to PAY for your top-ranking Videos b4?....wait till you try to get clients to pay for a video that is UN-Seen!

      Maybe we can talk Big G into keeping Thumbnails!

      Don Alm....No Thumbnails takes away the MAIN SELLING POINT of High-Ranking Videos....Being EASILY FOUND!
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        Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

        Whoopps! It Appears the "Money-Tree" is over!

        Google has apparently removed the MAIN REASON WHY businesses pay GOOD MONEY for "1st Page Videos".....the FULL COLOR THUMBNAIL.... which causes consumers to Click on the Video.

        Here's an example; One of the big-guys on Ranking Videos is Mark Helton. For a long time, he's had TOP Ranking for "Tampa Windows" with a Full Color Thumbnail causing viewers to "Stop & Click"!

        Well....when I checked this afternoon, the Video was still on Top BUT, the Thumbnail was GONE!

        So....you think you had a hard time finding clients to PAY for your top-ranking Videos b4?....wait till you try to get clients to pay for a video that is UN-Seen!

        Maybe we can talk Big G into keeping Thumbnails!

        Don Alm....No Thumbnails takes away the MAIN SELLING POINT of High-Ranking Videos....Being EASILY FOUND!
        No, Don, they haven't.

        It's your browser settings.
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        • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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          Aaaahhh Crapola! My IE Browser got hit with the "Babylon" thing again. I should just stay away from IE an use Chrome or FireFox.

          Sorry for not realizing it was in MY Browser.

          Thanks,
          Don Alm
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