How do you explain SEO to your Offline Prospects?

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I'm creating a Sales Strategy and am wondering....how do you introduce SEO to your prospects?

Do you start talking about how people use to use the Yellow Pages and now they Google?

or

Do you ease into it by talking about Internet Marketing (since it might be something they understand) and then move towards SEO?

or some other method?
#explain #offline #prospects #seo
  • Profile picture of the author TimD
    Two things:
    SEO is a hard sell if they don't get why they should want it already. I just say, your website might as well be a brochure you throw out on the street if you don't provide a way for people to find it. If they don't get it. I don't try to sell it. I want to be selling to people who get the need and have the money

    Two: most people get it. Hubspot did a study and found the top three things small business want in internet marketing -
    1. website
    2. email marketing
    3. SEO

    So, I make the most money by helping people who want these now to choose me. Missionary selling will slow you down and take money out of your pocket.
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    • I really like that idea. Especially considering a lot of developers claim they "SEO'd" your site. Yeah, I've got a lot of people I know that feel the same way. If they don't get it it's going to be too time intensive convincing them why they need it.

      Great Hubspot shoutout. Good data there.

      Originally Posted by TimD View Post

      Two things:
      SEO is a hard sell if they don't get why they should want it already. I just say, your website might as well be a brochure you throw out on the street if you don't provide a way for people to find it. If they don't get it. I don't try to sell it. I want to be selling to people who get the need and have the money

      Two: most people get it. Hubspot did a study and found the top three things small business want in internet marketing -
      1. website
      2. email marketing
      3. SEO

      So, I make the most money by helping people who want these now to choose me. Missionary selling will slow you down and take money out of your pocket.
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  • Profile picture of the author KingSolutions
    SEO is just advertising, so, if they don't know what SEO is, just tell them they need to advertise their site and sell SEO just like any other advertising campaign.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojo1
      Originally Posted by KingSolutions View Post

      SEO is just advertising, so, if they don't know what SEO is, just tell them they need to advertise their site and sell SEO just like any other advertising campaign.
      This just makes sense on so many levels. Advertising is a language all business owners understands. Simply marrying the concept of advertising 'for' or 'on' the internet are terms most anyone can understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Originally Posted by AustinSEOFreelancer View Post

    how do you introduce SEO to your prospects?
    Step 1) Never use the word / letters SEO.

    they don't know what it means, most often they don't care,
    its almost always confusing to them,

    and more importantly, it always detracts from the purpose of the conversation.
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    • Profile picture of the author KabanaSoft
      Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

      Step 1) Never use the word / letters SEO.

      they don't know what it means, most often they don't care,
      its almost always confusing to them,

      and more importantly, it always detracts from the purpose of the conversation.
      This is great advice...from my experience you don't want to sell the potential client using terms such as SEO or by saying that you can rank their website at the top of Google...this speak will fly over 95% of SMB's owner's heads, and they won't understand how this translates into increased business.

      Really the #1 thing a SMB owner cares about is how you can help increase his or her business and get more people into the door...bottom line they want to know how you can make them more money...so this should be the focal point of your sales pitch.

      Instead of saying 'I can do SEO and help rank your website #1 on Google', say something more like 'How would you like it if i can increase your business by getting more people in your door and more potential customers contacting your business?'.

      You'll get a much better response by talking to them on terms of how you can increase their business and thus make them more money than by simply saying you can do SEO and help them rank higher in Google. Once you have them hooked on the fact that you can make them more money, then it will be much easier to explain how and close the deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author econnors
    We should be beyond the point of explaining SEO - we should be explaining online lead generation. Conversions are what counts. SEO is all about positioning, ranking, etc. If the site isn't converting, it means nothing.

    So, you should be selling them on the idea of reaching customers that are looking for their business right now. These people are most likely ready to buy or at least ready to think about buying.

    Sell them on the potential profit. Selling them on SEO is like selling a two course meal when most everyone likes to wrap it all up with dessert.
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    • After visiting sites like local.com and yp.com I found they turn the conversation towards being found, having your phone ring and reaching potential customers.

      Originally Posted by econnors View Post

      We should be beyond the point of explaining SEO - we should be explaining online lead generation. Conversions are what counts. SEO is all about positioning, ranking, etc. If the site isn't converting, it means nothing.

      So, you should be selling them on the idea of reaching customers that are looking for their business right now. These people are most likely ready to buy or at least ready to think about buying.

      Sell them on the potential profit. Selling them on SEO is like selling a two course meal when most everyone likes to wrap it all up with dessert.
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    Having a website without good SEO, is like having a beautiful billboard on a deserted highway.
    It doesn't matter how good it looks if no one can see it.

    So, let me ask you this? Would you like to have:
    1. A beautiful billboard on a deserted highway (nice site, no seo)
    2. An "okay" billboard on a busy highway (decent site, good seo)
    3. Or a beautiful and effective billboard on a busy highway (nice and effective site, good seo)
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  • Profile picture of the author jrod014
    I don't sell SEO anymore, I'm starting to sell them on Inbound marketing. I mix traditional offline marketing with online marketing for their specific campaign.

    I've found it works better that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimD
      Originally Posted by jrod014 View Post

      I don't sell SEO anymore, I'm starting to sell them on Inbound marketing. I mix traditional offline marketing with online marketing for their specific campaign.

      I've found it works better that way.
      jrod, I would love to hear more about this. Though you might want to start a new thread. How do you approach people for inbound marketing? Most folks I talk to are actively afraid of a. the time it takes, and b. making a mistake publicly.
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      • I'd like to hear more about this too!

        I have marketing buds that sell Social Media, Blog Content and Article marketing and their customers really stress over the content that represents their brands.

        But yeah I'd like to know what how you approach clients with Inbound Marketing.

        Originally Posted by TimD View Post

        jrod, I would love to hear more about this. Though you might want to start a new thread. How do you approach people for inbound marketing? Most folks I talk to are actively afraid of a. the time it takes, and b. making a mistake publicly.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by TimD View Post

        Most folks I talk to are actively afraid of a. the time it takes, and b. making a mistake publicly.
        You need to choose a better market to approach.

        for instance most of our inbounds are going to sales rooms.
        they have the budget, aren't afraid of much, understand the importance of a lead.

        and if you produce quality, they will order more then you can produce.

        look in the news paper for ads hiring salespeople, then find out what that room is selling, then do your magic... it really is that simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author Voasi
    SEO is the devil! It's the easiest way to get the phone slammed or them saying "NO THANK YOU" before they've even heard of why you're such a great company.

    Create a brand. You don't sell SEO, you sell "Leads Funnels Marketing" where penetrate where their customers hang out and send them direct messages to get them to perform an action, fill out a lead form or give you a call!

    That's just an example, but that's the idea. AT&T doesn't sell internet services, they sell Uverse. Yellow Pages doesn't sell marketing services, they sell YP 360.

    Brand a unique way your and your team work...because it is unique and you want to create a brand that is special to your company. Brand your capabilities and how your perform. That's what you want to sell, this NEW BRAND that can generate them LEADS and PHONE CALLS that will make them more money!
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    SEO? I can't remember who said
    "They can't write you a check while they're scratching their head."
    But I believe it.

    Hugh
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  • Profile picture of the author ryadams
    Whatever you do, don't talk about SEO or tactics at all in a 1st meeting. We have sold lots of solutions to local businesses in the past, and not once do we get into tactics, its not important. Position yourself as a consultant 1st and get to know their business.

    You want to get to know your prospect and what their business goals are (current sales, how much do they want to grow, average cost per lead, customer acquisition costs, marketing budget, etc). Talk business and the client will lead you down the path of providing a solution to help them meet their goals.

    If you talk like a business person and understand business, you will separate yourself from all the other people who "throw up" all over the client with web design, seo, ppc, social media talk. I have never met a client who really cared about any of that, they just want results and a plan to get them those results. The client who wants to talk specifics about tactics is what we call a dangerous prospect, pay close attention to what they are asking you and make sure they are a good fit for you. The last thing you need is someone as a client who thinks they know as much as you.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Plus about a million points to Kabana...and while I think of it, you do local anything, GET his software. I bought it and it was worth every penny.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtech
    SEO is just advertising, so, if they don't know what SEO is, just tell them they need to advertise their site and sell SEO just like any other advertising campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Bronson
    As others have mentioned, getting more conversions through "digital channels" is all most business owners care about.

    While snake oil "we'll get you to #1 on Google" tactics may work in the short term for some small business, it's not a long term sustainable business model.

    I've seen firms push ranking reports for dozens of long tail traffic keyword terms that were "winning on the first page of Google". When you dig deeper and see that all of these terms only brought 2 visitors to their site, that's a problem.

    Focusing on long term "inbound marketing" is a great way to go. However for the small client who can only part with $350/mo for SEO and expects results in a few months, you're pretty much SOL in 2012, unless you take major chances. It's astounding how little most people know about SEO in general. Some actually think it's a one time thing. You somehow "contact Google", pay a fee and get this on the first page.

    So, selling to the local business increased phone calls/contact forms and brand awareness is where it's at!
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    • Profile picture of the author rhinocl
      Do they really need to understand it to buy it? Nobody knew what 'Corinthian Leather' was. (No it was not leather made in Greece) It just sounded good. Many people will never understand 'optimization' but they still want it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    You have to show them the benefit of having it ongoing vs. not. They don't have to understand technicalities but need to be shown how it will benefit their bottom line long term and for that you do need to explain at least a little bit what it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author tour explora
    Just explain them that SEO is a good step to advertise their website. They must like this way (SEO).
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  • Profile picture of the author David Neale
    I see many colleagues moving the conversation with prospects to "Inbound Marketing", that's just as bad as 'SEO", now the client REALLY has no idea what your talking about.

    We always start with a small PPC campaign. We get them traffic in less then 24 hours, it often doubles their current traffic, they can see the results in black and white (well color actually in GA) and, most importantly, they learn what a visitor costs!

    NOW ( a few weeks later) we can talk. "Mike notice these 3 keywords generate 70% of your traffic and cost an average of $1.78 per visitor? Well there are some things we can do to increase your website visibility in the organic search results FOR THOSE 3 KEYWORD PHRASES and save you some money"

    Most of the time we get a small SEO plan to start. A few months later; "Mike let's do some things to get more of those visitors to call you or fill in a form (assuming it isn't an ecomm site).... etc. etc. all the way through to email marketing.... and we haven't even talked about Social Media yet.

    We see our goal as gently moving the client along from spending $500 pm on just one product/service to spending several thousand per month on several products/services.

    But, as said, we always try and begin with PPC because of it's immediacy and legitimacy.
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  • Profile picture of the author MorpheusMirror
    The solution to finding offline customers is being sincere in your commitment while not coming off as either weak or just another sales persons hawking rubbish. You can do this by pre selling to their business via the same strategies you plan to implement in the niche you are going after. Many small business owners know they need to be online but are approached by so many companies and sales persons it makes their heads swim. They want a workable test solution now, when you remember that and get into their heads things go much smoother.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    The more technical you get, the more you're going to scare your prospects.

    They neither want to or need to know about how you do what you do. Think about it--do you want to know how your accountant does your taxes? How your plumber fixes your shower valve? How the groceries you buy end up at your supermarket?

    Similarly, your prospects could care a less how you develop a steady stream of qualified inbound leads for them. That is what they really want.

    Use the script I linked to above to:

    * define the size of the steady stream of qualified inbound leads

    * learn what the financial impact of your solution will be to your prospect

    * find out what this solution is worth to your prospect, and whether they have the ability to pay for it or not

    * if your prospect has any other issues, financial or personal, that would prohibit you from working with them

    * get your prospect to tell you how they buy, and actually buy.

    I might say that's Too Much Awesome for a quick 6-minute conversation you could have several times an hour. But there it is.
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