selling SMS to churches will this work???

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so i was thinking sms would be very helpful to churches.
but would churches but into it? i am planning on chargin 150 per month
but will it fit their bugget?

also i don't want to be cold calling churches trying to sell my services i will feel weird.
what i want to do is just call them up and tell the receptionist that i want to send an email to the pastor if i can get his personal email address. then just send a very detail email explaining sms and why the church members will love it.

what do you guys think of this approach???
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  • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
    They would. My dad's church just started using it. Except I think they are doing it themselves so the fee is probably miniscule. But I'm sure you could find churches that wouldn't know how to do it and would pay someone to.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bayo
      This is something that is available now but doesn't mean the market is saturated, so you still have lots of churches to work with if you do things right.

      I started offering this service to my church and then through the network of ministers and pastors, got access to other churches and faith-based groups.

      The one thing I will tell you is that you should drop all marketing buzz-words and focus on helping them achieve their mission or vision (depending on if it's a church, other religious group or faith-based organization).

      Bayo
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      • Profile picture of the author henry Argueta
        Originally Posted by Bayo View Post

        This is something that is available now but doesn't mean the market is saturated, so you still have lots of churches to work with if you do things right.

        I started offering this service to my church and then through the network of ministers and pastors, got access to other churches and faith-based groups.

        The one thing I will tell you is that you should drop all marketing buzz-words and focus on helping them achieve their mission or vision (depending on if it's a church, other religious group or faith-based organization).

        Bayo
        what do you guys think of the approach?
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        • Profile picture of the author Bayo
          Originally Posted by henry Argueta View Post

          what do you guys think of the approach?
          That's not the right question you should be asking.

          Your question should be "Is this something I can leverage and make work for what I'm trying to achieve or is it a method I know I can't use for particular reasons e.g. I feel I can't penetrate that market/I might not know how to get started e.t.c?"

          What if someone comes back and thinks it's a great idea? Does that mean you'll jump all over it? What if someone else comes back and they feel it won't work? Do you ditch your goals?

          I'm not knocking you or anything by the way because I respect the fact that you're seeking to take action, but I had to drop by to help you clarify this because it's just like when a business owner asks for testimonials...do they honestly think you'll go and bring someone who'll talk bad about you?

          So look at what you want to do and then determine how this may or may not work for you and your business.

          Cheers

          Bayo
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          • Profile picture of the author henry Argueta
            Originally Posted by Bayo View Post

            That's not the right question you should be asking.

            Your question should be "Is this something I can leverage and make work for what I'm trying to achieve or is it a method I know I can't use for particular reasons e.g. I feel I can't penetrate that market/I might not know how to get started e.t.c?"

            What if someone comes back and thinks it's a great idea? Does that mean you'll jump all over it? What if someone else comes back and they feel it won't work? Do you ditch your goals?

            I'm not knocking you or anything by the way because I respect the fact that you're seeking to take action, but I had to drop by to help you clarify this because it's just like when a business owner asks for testimonials...do they honestly think you'll go and bring someone who'll talk bad about you?

            So look at what you want to do and then determine how this may or may not work for you and your business.

            Cheers

            Bayo
            well i was kind of looking for some suggestions if anyone had any, i will put it to action because it seems like i should have a good responce rate on getting the emails after that i will just have to see if my email that i send out prodecues results otherwise i will have to tweek it around because i think if done correctly i should get a high response rate with this niche
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          • Profile picture of the author Microsuck
            Originally Posted by Bayo View Post

            it's just like when a business owner asks for testimonials...do they honestly think you'll go and bring someone who'll talk bad about you?
            Good point! I never thought of it that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author CollegeCEO
    Depending on the size of the church $150 might even be too low! Some churches have larger budgets that you think.
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  • Profile picture of the author laird
    Yes. Pastors and the like WILL take advantage of SMS marketing for their congregation if they can understand the benefits* it provides their staff.

    * Reduces the need for staff to individually call each parishioner to remind them
    * No need to leave voicemails or interrupt a parishioner at home/work
    * Eliminates the need for multiple handouts at sermon
    * Huge Open and Read Rates
    * Can be sent (and received) at the right precise moment to encourage the greatest turnout.
    * Can be used to send daily/weekly affirmations and scripture quotes/references
    * Can be segmented for each church group
    * Increases turnout to sermons, events, group meetings

    Regarding your "I should get a high response with this niche"...

    Think again.

    You'll definitely have interest, and will need to explain the features and benefits very clearly, in a way they can understand how it will help them reach their congregation members efficiently, systematically and increase participation. It's not an outreach marketing system for how they'll maximum SMS use.

    BUT...they are often slow to make purchasing decisions. I lucked out when sending several letters (with a free offer) to churches and having one taking me up fairly quickly. They gave me several referrals. The BIG win for me was one of their youth pastors understanding the value of text messaging for his audience and his willingness to talk to other pastors at a major northwest gathering of pastors help me get a sizable number of clients.

    Without him, I'm not sure this "niche" is an easy sell as you may be thinking.
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    • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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      Originally Posted by laird View Post

      Yes. Pastors and the like WILL take advantage of SMS marketing for their congregation if they can understand the benefits* it provides their staff.

      * Reduces the need for staff to individually call each parishioner to remind them
      * No need to leave voicemails or interrupt a parishioner at home/work
      * Eliminates the need for multiple handouts at sermon
      * Huge Open and Read Rates
      * Can be sent (and received) at the right precise moment to encourage the greatest turnout.
      * Can be used to send daily/weekly affirmations and scripture quotes/references
      * Can be segmented for each church group
      * Increases turnout to sermons, events, group meetings


      Regarding your "I should get a high response with this niche"...

      Think again.

      You'll definitely have interest, and will need to explain the features and benefits very clearly, in a way they can understand how it will help them reach their congregation members efficiently, systematically and increase participation. It's not an outreach marketing system for how they'll maximum SMS use.

      BUT...they are often slow to make purchasing decisions. I lucked out when sending several letters (with a free offer) to churches and having one taking me up fairly quickly. They gave me several referrals. The BIG win for me was one of their youth pastors understanding the value of text messaging for his audience and his willingness to talk to other pastors at a major northwest gathering of pastors help me get a sizable number of clients.

      Without him, I'm not sure this "niche" is an easy sell as you may be thinking.
      I like the idea of the benefits listed above. Can someone refer me a link or a thread that talks about 'How SMS Marketing or Service Works?' I tried to search the entire forum but can't find one or I might not just be catching those threads. This is a very interesting new business to venture into.
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      • Profile picture of the author laird
        Contentwriting360:

        There are numerous conversations surrounding text messaging/broadcasting services. Move over to the Mobile Marketing forum for various threads. You can also do a search on Google. Every SMS provider worth their salt have descriptions about how SMS broadcasting works and the benefits for customers using it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadhere
    I tried this and found that out of 40 churches I gave (by hand to the secretary) none wanted it at 89 a month. I found out the pastors name and put it on the letters but they all said it was too much for their budget.

    I'm rethinking this to lower it to $39 a month and this covers 200 members and it is a big way to get into a large pool of business people! This is why I don't mind lowering the price. Plus 10 churches gets me 390 a month recurring...

    More work, but access by referral to many people!

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author laird
      Originally Posted by dadhere View Post

      I tried this and found that out of 40 churches I gave (by hand to the secretary) none wanted it at 89 a month. I found out the pastors name and put it on the letters but they all said it was too much for their budget.

      I'm rethinking this to lower it to $39 a month and this covers 200 members and it is a big way to get into a large pool of business people! This is why I don't mind lowering the price. Plus 10 churches gets me 390 a month recurring...

      More work, but access by referral to many people!

      thanks
      Don't.

      Service clients that can afford realistic rates that generate you a profit. "Potential" doesn't pay the bills. If the churches you're marketing to can't afford your base rate, find another vertical or industry that will.

      I get churches to commit to $249 for one keyword and +$25 for each additional keyword per month for 3,000 text messages. I charge a flat .03 per text message sent beyond 3,000.

      This is the same rate I charge restaurants and service businesses. Why deviate from what works?
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    • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
      Originally Posted by dadhere View Post

      I tried this and found that out of 40 churches I gave (by hand to the secretary) none wanted it at 89 a month. I found out the pastors name and put it on the letters but they all said it was too much for their budget.

      I'm rethinking this to lower it to $39 a month and this covers 200 members and it is a big way to get into a large pool of business people! This is why I don't mind lowering the price. Plus 10 churches gets me 390 a month recurring...

      More work, but access by referral to many people!

      thanks
      Screw lowering the price, show them value.
      Besides all the stuff already mentioned I would show them how they could get more money in the collection plate by increasing the attendance.

      Just making stuff up for example. Church has 1000 members and they get an average of 200 per service, if they can send reminders and get a 10 percent increase thats 220 people.
      Say the avg person throws in $10, $10 x 20 people=$200x 4 main services per mo =$800. Not to mention all the other benefits they get from greater attendance.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Selling to churches hardly ever works in my experience, I have only heard 100 too many say "we have someone in our church who already does that..." but I do have an idea of something to sell to "ministers".
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Selling to churches hardly ever works in my experience, I have only heard 100 too many say "we have someone in our church who already does that..." but I do have an idea of something to sell to "ministers".
      So are they in fact saying they already do SMS or they don't fully understand the concept and just blowing you off by not being interested in what you have to offer?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

        So are they in fact saying they already do SMS or they don't fully understand the concept and just blowing you off by not being interested in what you have to offer?
        Saying that if you get on the phone and try it, you are going to find out that any church who can afford it probably has an Im'r or web developer in their congregation who donates his time, and you aint gonna get them to pay anything.

        Either that or you are going to have to go through a board of directors and 3 meetings to get a $500 job,

        Dont take my word for it, even though I have called church lists...try it and see. Then dont forget to come back and tell people I knew what I was talking about.

        You have a better chance with nail salons.
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        • Profile picture of the author henry Argueta
          Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

          Saying that if you get on the phone and try it, you are going to find out that any church who can afford it probably has an Im'r or web developer in their congregation who donates his time, and you aint gonna get them to pay anything.

          Either that or you are going to have to go through a board of directors and 3 meetings to get a $500 job,

          Dont take my word for it, even though I have called church lists...try it and see. Then dont forget to come back and tell people I knew what I was talking about.

          You have a better chance with nail salons.
          thanks for sharing JD
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  • Profile picture of the author Bayo
    Some interesting responses here.

    The method does work, but it depends on how you work it. The other thing to remember is that not all marketing approaches will work for everyone who tries them for a whole bunch of reasons.

    For instance, I've never been able to sell to businesses that have low transaction levels, probably because I was never able to think like they did or something. It was a blessing in disguise because it meant changing focus back then. But there are people that are confortably selling to these people in large volumes.

    I don't know if it helped with my Church SMS marketing, but I'd been a musician in church for many years (a bass player) and so I wasn't a total stranger to a number of churches and I also got introduced to officials in other churches in return for doing no-cost work for some of them.

    So it does and can work but it depends...I guess it's similar to cold-calling (yuck!), works for some and not for others.

    Bayo
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesmorrison80
    I think it is great idea. they have money the only thing is just doing proper marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author beeswarn
    My experience in this market is almost exactly as John Durham describes his. I can't figure out what laird does differently than I do, but he reports much more success than I've had.
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    • Profile picture of the author laird
      Originally Posted by beeswarn View Post

      My experience in this market is almost exactly as John Durham describes his. I can't figure out what laird does differently than I do, but he reports much more success than I've had.
      I have a man on the "inside," - a youth pastor AND had the fortune of great timing as he was able to present the service at a major pastor event (over 1,000 attending pastors). That initial groundswell has since continued to build strictly by word of mouth.
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  • Profile picture of the author JaceBarnett
    As a pastor and a professional marketer who sells SMS services, I feel like I know a little about this topic. In truth, I don't really want to give TOO much away right now, because I actually plan on releasing a WSO later this summer on marketing to churches and non-profits.

    What I will say is that there is DEFINITELY money to be made in this niche! And selling to churches (rather it be services like SMS or something completely different) doesn't need to be very hard. It can be pretty easy to make it hard, but then again, we can make ANYTHING hard if we try.

    I will give anyone interested in marketing to churches one of many different methods I use, and I'll give it away here only because I've already spoken about this method of prospecting in the past. And this one really works well for churches.

    Local seminars!

    Yep... here's Jace talking about seminars again. They work! And they work really well in this niche. Again without devaluing my future WSO too much, I admit I am a little hesitant to share, because I want to make money. I got no problem admitting that! But I'll help here a little because as a pastor, I do care about the general mission of the church. So that being said, here's a quick little how to:

    First, I know that a lot of you don't like to go out "in the field" and prefer to call, and that's fine -- I'm not telling you that you have to go out. But what I will say is, that from my own testing (and as a pastor) you will see a great increase if you personally walk in and shake the pastor, secretary, whomever's hand rather than just dial the digits. The church likes to see people actively engaged in the community. So you will have much better results attempting to get a pastor and his crew to attend your seminar if you actually take the initiative to go meet with them. Again, I am not saying you have to go in person, but I am saying you'll have a much higher success rate than you will over the phone especially if the pastor of the church is an older gentleman.

    Anyway... print off some flyers, brochures, or a calendar (and circle the date/s of your seminar/s on the calendar for them and point it out so they know when to come) and deliver them to the churches in the area you want to work with. (VALUABLE BONUS IDEA: If you have a home church already, and you're not in a leadership role to make the decision to host the seminar yourself, you can actually leverage it by asking your church if you could host a seminar teaching other churches how they can improve community outreach using the Web, phones, email, etc. Tell your own church that you would like to help them [let's be honest, if it is your church, you really should want to anyway], and in exchange for letting you help the town "brag on Jesus" in a free seminar you would be excited to provide all the services to your own church free as a service offering.) Tell the pastor that you want to help his church reach the saving message of Jesus Christ (or whatever mission the non-profit supports) to more people in the community, and help the local unchurched find a home. Let them know that your services strengthen the church's prayer chain, outreach, missions and ministry, and saves the church a tremendous amount of time and money to boot. Time and money that could better be utilized to further serve the community!

    Invite the pastor to your free seminar (ideally hosted at a local church... right away you have instant credibility and you're there to serve and help them serve. They now see this IS your ministry, not just a business), and tell him that it would be great if he could convince the worship leader, a church elder or two, and the Sunday School Director to attend as well. Let him know that if they can't come that is fine, but they would receive incredible value and fantastic ideas on how to spread the gospel and reach more with their ministries at your seminar as well.

    The reason you do do that is if you're good at showing value in your seminar, and you can illustrate how these services will truly benefit and serve their church and community, you wind up having not 1 person to go back and convince the church board that they should do this, but you get 3, 4, 5 or more excited members on the church board to go back and brag on your services for you. In my experience, it's not at all uncommon to receive a call from the church soon after asking you when you can get started.

    Anyway, make sure that at your seminar every guest fills out a form (pre-sells pitch... my future WSO will have these forms pre-made... LOL) with their contact information; which church they are affiliated with; how often they have board meetings; when the next board meeting will be held; their average weekly attendance; and WHY THEY WANT TO REACH MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. Guess what, now later when you follow-up with them, you have their own words about why they want your services. This form is given to them as they arrive.

    You have a second form that lists all of the services you offer and the prices (closing tip... churches are VERY used to being marketed to on tiered platforms and pricing... that is to say, smaller churches are used to paying less and larger churches are used to paying more. You don't have to work that into your pricing structure, but you will do yourself a favor if you keep that in mind.) for each. You tell them to check off which service/s they are most interested in and again WHY they like those services. IMHO, this form is best kept until the end. In my experience, you don't want them staring at your pricing sheet rather than listening to how your services will help them do minister to their community during your seminar presentation.

    You can bring the seminar to an end by advising everyone that you will be around for a few minutes to speak to people one on one if they have other questions or are in the position and want to get started (bragging on Jesus, saving lives, helping kids, etc... whatever the larger mission of the group attending the seminar may be) right away to hang back and talk to you personally.

    You might close a deal or two on the spot (i've done it a few times, but I'll be honest -- it generally doesn't happen then and there because of the approval process most churches do have) by doing so. And even if you don't you build up added trust and reciprocity by showing how eager and willing you are to answer their questions and serve as well. Besides that, you're going to have to collect everyone's forms anyway.

    In closing, this stuff works guys! And that's all you're getting out of this pastor until my WSO is released. ;-)
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      Did it work out for you?

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  • Profile picture of the author madeinheaven
    Churches has been some of my easiest sells, I have 16 Churches under contract, and what you should understand is that a Church is a business, they must market just like any other business. The church members are their business and the ones they must market to and keep in touch with. Most Pastors I've come in contact with love the idea that they can share daily scriptures with their members, they love that can collect donations, they church survives off of donations from them member and sms is another avenue to collect church donations. And most pastors want to stay up to date with technology. You can Upsell them Mobile website, redo their websites, and while you are building their church business, other church members will want to do business with you. Their are alot of wealthy church member and alot of them have their own business. It's been perfect for me. I don't even have to advertise, word of mouth is blessing me, each and every week. To get your foot in the door, make an appointment with the head pastor of the church. They take appointment from everybody throughout the week. Just go to the Church Main Office and make an appointment with the secretary.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Im the SON of a pastor, In fact Im typing in the pastors church office this very minute...and I use to play bass at the largest church in America (Church on The Rock)...amd so I know a thing or two as well, these guys are all confirming the same truth "There's a guy in my church who we work with".

    If you try it cold calling, thats all you are going to hear all day long. If you called my parents church they would tell you that someone here already donates their web skills.

    Im not going to tell you these guys are wrong, Im going to tell you- Spend a day on the phone trying it...99% have a person who donates their marketing, or if you think of churches like you do the local chamber of commerce meetings then you can attend one for six months and try to get recognized by the pastor and schmooze your way in...and maybe they will refer you to others. Granted.

    Originally Posted by Adrian Browning View Post

    If i were you I would get some flyers printed up, and make them specifically tailored to the church market.. I'd then visit as many churches in my local and surrounding area as I could, just to collect each pastor’s name and also drop off some flyers. and Lastly, I would create some bespoke direct mail pieces, address them directly to each pastor and have them sent out.
    Yeah so he can run it past his board of directors for a month- Pastors rarely can make a decision on the spot.

    Also, he will probably hand your flyer to some guy in his church who does web stuff and say "What do you think of this", and the guy will say "Dont spend your money, I will do it for free".

    Churches believe that the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just, and they mostly give contracts to their own members.

    Why should you believe me?

    Because it makes common sense.

    There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule, but thats the rule. Most of the people who do this started in their own church and are part of a church network.

    Heck if I was Korean I bet I could sell more nail salons too. I AM a christian believer, and I lie to you not.

    This is about how to market, not how to take advantage of your church membership for profit.


    Ps.

    You want to sell something worthwhile? That will actually spread the gospel?

    Sell them a course on how the invariable 50% of the congregation who feel they are called to evangelize can book themselves up with speaking engagements, and get the word out, instead of sitting around crying waiting for God to put speaking engagemenjts in their lap.

    Teach them to take it by force.

    I know how, and many of you do too.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    My dad is an assistants pastor and from all the year of my exposure to this market

    this i can tell you

    create a product for the pastor that will help him become a more famous pastor since these guys egos are pretty inflated and they secretly keep an eye on how well the other pastors congregation is doing.

    they all want to be like the big boys

    Frederick price

    and whats that other guy from texas that he even makes his cowboy christian movies.

    products that teach the pastor how he can gain more exposure and reach more people.

    John Duram has hit it right on the money with his free thread

    we have such a warped society in where we follow men instead of following principles

    we should NEVER follow man

    follow your own heart and principles
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  • Profile picture of the author kcom
    I think Jace has got it right, churches work on relationships. A cold call is not a relationship, so you would need another approach. Also, as John has stated many churches have in house marketing and/or web developers. It would then make sense that in giving a free seminar as Jace suggested you could start to develop a relationship and they could see how what you offer is different from what they already have in house. Also, to get your foot in the door you may offer your services to one church in exchange for your donation you would get a tax receipt of the value of your services.
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  • Profile picture of the author zenyatta
    While the church might have web developers as members that will donate their time they probably do NOT have SMS Marketers. I would make a demo and schedule the appt with the Pastor and show the biggest benefit of using text marketing for churches. DONATIONS!!!

    The SMS Platform I use allows clients to send and receive mobile donations with the click of a button. When the Pastor sees how easy members can donate and realizes that they can stay in touch better as well as offering all the other features previous writers have mentioned they will "GET" it.

    Don't present this as a service that has an expense of X$ per month but rather an investment in a fully managed donation system. Their custom platform will increase member donations and provide a net positive return by utilizing integrated "mobile donations" within their text marketing messages.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Could you possibly sell sms to a church? Yes, it is possible.

    But is it your highest and best use of your time? Does it have the highest possible chance of being a sale? No. I don't think so.

    If this would be one of your first clients, I'd stick with restaurants and other businesses who are familiar with what you're doing and immediately understand the value.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulKlein
    You'll need to know the size of membership (round figures if you can) of the different churches. Many smaller ones I know want so much done with mobile config and sms, but not willing to pay much for it. I am sure larger churches are beginning to budget wisely for this now.
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    • Profile picture of the author laird
      Originally Posted by PaulKlein View Post

      You'll need to know the size of membership (round figures if you can) of the different churches. Many smaller ones I know want so much done with mobile config and sms, but not willing to pay much for it. I am sure larger churches are beginning to budget wisely for this now.
      Having 37 Churches now using my SMS broadcasting service, I can definitely confirm churches with larger congregations have better budgets and more ministries within the church to allow for diversity across keywords. It goes without saying, they are better "buyers" of the service from multiple fronts: usage, timeliness of message delivery, broadcast segmentation, time savings.

      Smaller churches have asked for lower prices (due to their price barriers and/or limited congregation size) and I've passed on those opportunities as they didn't warrant the substantially-smaller revenue opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I still work part-time in a church office that has a substantial budget. We would probably never buy this service from a stranger. But if someone set it up in their own church and then that church referred them-- maybe. Or if a church member made a recommendation.
    We get lots of emails that are deleted right away and phone calls that are ignored. It really helps to have a local connection in this market. A lot of large churches now have staff members who handle marketing. They're usually more apt to take the time to talk with you then a pastor.

    The demographics of a church matters, as well. The church I'm at is a mainline denomination with an older congregation. We wouldn't be as apt to use this type of service as a charismatic church with younger members.
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    Many churches in my area have tons of money. My wife is a music director of a large church in my area and they have a large budget and they pay her really well.

    But that doesn't mean they will spend money on something that they either don't understand or don't think they need. You still have to provide them something that shows value (or at least perceived value).

    A few things you could do that might get their attention

    1) Show the pastor how anyone in the congregation can listen to his latest sermon (or homily) by making a phone call or texting a word to 555-1212 (the text reply contains the mp3 link)
    2) Show him (or her) how he can send a text to a local phone number that will be broadcast to all of his staff (in case of emergency) or that anyone can reply and the message will also be broadcast to the whole "group".
    3) Show him how one text from his cell phone can go out to all of his congregation with a spiritual reminder, church announcement or whatever.

    You can also donate your services and get a tax write-off as well. Churches are full of business people so eventually you will make some terrific contacts.

    If you donate an SMS service, put your web address at the end of the outgoing texts. "Powered by yoursite.com" or whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Services are not usually tax deductible, though the expenses you incur are:
    Are Pro Bono Services Tax Deductible - Deduct Time Value of Services

    In other words, talk to a tax professional or accountant.

    Rose
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    • Profile picture of the author wrestler
      Jace

      Im excited to see your WSO. I used to run the media ministry at my local church and also dealt with getting product for our book store and booking engagements for outside visiting ministers so I have a high interest in your perspective. Do you have an idea of when you will be releasing your WSO and at what price?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Bucker
    @jacebarnett

    I agree with seminars as I do several a year in the offline world. I go door to door and yes even wrote WSO on it. I do hope my friend, that you dont give away your seminar tickets or seats for free.

    If so get my wso but dont buy it from my link. Go to john durhams sig. You will pay the same price for several other WSO's along with mine, and all proceeds goes to a charity, for the same price as you would for mine alone.

    If you have something worth saying in your seminars get paid for it.

    @henry

    You can sell to churches but it will be a numbers game, one some have calculated and decided to opt out, and others have found their nich in selling churches.

    Make it worth your time and effort if you are indeed going to put forth the work of pursuit.
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  • Profile picture of the author roni994
    many churches had this service but they dnt know how to use it. I think $150 can fit most of churches budget.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pete Fry
    Hello Warriors - I am a newbie and this is my first post. I am an independent rep for a software company that does SMS for faith based organizations (one of the verticals we are targeting) as part of a package that includes text to Jumbotron, e-mails, newsletters, event management, fundraising and all sorts of other things useful to churches ($990/year for up to 5,000 members with no limits on texts).

    I am looking for ways, especially creative ways to get to the faith based organization market so thank you to the people in this thread for all their ideas. We will be trying some of these and I'll report back.

    I have some questions about Warrior Forum etiquette:

    1. There are some people on this thread who I would like to contact about the software I am selling - I'd like to find out if they would be interested in being a rep but I don't want to fall foul of the forum rules. How do people feel about receiving an IM with more details?
    2. Would I be OK to post a link to an outline of the software or is that considered spam?
    3. Can I quote people's forum posts in my own materials? We have a weekly meeting of sales reps and I would like to repeat some of the ideas put forward here.

    That's it - let me know what you think and feel free to message me.
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