$1,000,000 business! Why the heck not??

by Vid Yo
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Am I being TOO much of a dreamer??

I've seen ambitious individuals post their ideas/goals on Warrior Forum, to only watch "negative harry" reply with why it may not work.

"Did you think about x?"
"Did you plan for y?"
"What will you do when the inevitable z happens?"

Then, an empathetic, typically very experienced, individual rushes to the poster's rescue with something like "Leave them alone...at least they have goals, which means they've given their idea/goals some thought!"

Negative Harry, I'm seeking your comments. (Ofcourse along with the experienced rescuer)

My goal: Simple...to make $1,000,000 per year! There are those who want to be financially free (most on the forum) and there are those who want to be 100%, completely, totally financial free AND want the same for their kids. I'm the latter.

I've chosen an authority business directory as my vehicle, basically to provide leads to my clients. Thanks John D.! (...and SOOOO MANY OTHERS) You're the best!

Revenue $100,000 per month
340 ($297/month) clients
1 client out of 200 calls
70,000 calls (1250 daily)
5 telemarketers frontline (250 calls each, daily)
1 closer (for 6 phone closes per day)

Expenses $4000 - $8400 per month
$4400/month (TMs $10/hour, $25 to $50 spiffs) (3 months only)
$2000/month (VA/Telemarketer to replace cancellations) (After 3 months)
$10/month website hosting
$2000-$4000/month SEO/Advert (company identified and spoken with)

$297/month seems a little steep when attempting to close 1 out of 200 calls. To reach this goal, I plan to start calling in a particular city ONLY after receiving 10 visitors per day to the site from that city. Then, the script will start with something like...

"Our website is currently receiving 10 visitors per day from people looking for a Chicago Pizzeria (example). We've yet to identify a Pizzeria to send these leads to. Are you currently overwhelmed with customers right now?"

Why am I feeling like this is too much money to hope for? $1,100,000 annually really seems like a LOT of money for such a low start-up (around $5k).

However, gosh, this plan seems totally feasible based on the research I've done: here at WF; elsewhere to find the lifetime value to my future clients for picking up a new customer; the return my client is currently getting; the return they'll get on $297/month; their advertising/marketing habits; etc.

I've lurked here for a loooooooong time! Sick of it! Time to move!

PLEASE point out any potential flaws in my plan/execution because I feel as though I need to bring my excitement level down a notch...

Thanks again guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    here is a perfect response to your post.

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    Originally Posted by ncp63837 View Post

    Am I being TOO much of a dreamer??

    I've seen ambitious individuals post their ideas/goals on Warrior Forum, to only watch "negative harry" reply with why it may not work.

    "Did you think about x?"
    "Did you plan for y?"
    "What will you do when the inevitable z happens?"

    Then, an empathetic, typically very experienced, individual rushes to the poster's rescue with something like "Leave them alone...at least they have goals, which means they've given their idea/goals some thought!"

    Negative Harry, I'm seeking your comments. (Ofcourse along with the experienced rescuer)

    My goal: Simple...to make $1,000,000 per year! There are those who want to be financially free (most on the forum) and there are those who want to be 100%, completely, totally financial free AND want the same for their kids. I'm the latter.

    I've chosen an authority business directory as my vehicle, basically to provide leads to my clients. Thanks John D.! (...and SOOOO MANY OTHERS) You're the best!

    Revenue $100,000 per month
    340 ($297/month) clients
    1 client out of 200 calls
    70,000 calls (1250 daily)
    5 telemarketers frontline (250 calls each, daily)
    1 closer (for 6 phone closes per day)

    Expenses $4000 - $8400 per month
    $4400/month (TMs $10/hour, $25 to $50 spiffs) (3 months only)
    $2000/month (VA/Telemarketer to replace cancellations) (After 3 months)
    $10/month website hosting
    $2000-$4000/month SEO/Advert (company identified and spoken with)

    $297/month seems a little steep when attempting to close 1 out of 200 calls. To reach this goal, I plan to start calling in a particular city ONLY after receiving 10 visitors per day to the site from that city. Then, the script will start with something like...

    "Our website is currently receiving 10 visitors per day from people looking for a Chicago Pizzeria (example). We've yet to identify a Pizzeria to send these leads to. Are you currently overwhelmed with customers right now?"

    Why am I feeling like this is too much money to hope for? $1,100,000 annually really seems like a LOT of money for such a low start-up (around $5k).

    However, gosh, this plan seems totally feasible based on the research I've done: here at WF; elsewhere to find the lifetime value to my future clients for picking up a new customer; the return my client is currently getting; the return they'll get on $297/month; their advertising/marketing habits; etc.

    I've lurked here for a loooooooong time! Sick of it! Time to move!

    PLEASE point out any potential flaws in my plan/execution because I feel as though I need to bring my excitement level down a notch...

    Thanks again guys!
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia View Post

      here is a perfect response to your post.

      please let me know if you have any additional questions



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      Bluecoyotemedia, that was a perfect response...loved it.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeacefulCalamity
    It should theoretically be done. Variables will change and it won't a 1, 2, 3! sort of thing. Investment will likely change.

    Give it a spin though. That's the only way you'll know for sure. You sound like you have the drive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by PeacefulCalamity View Post

      You're gonna have one hell of a time convincing someone to pay $250 for hosting every month for a mobile website. SEO sure, but I'm not so sure about mobile websites.

      Give it a spin though. That's the only way we'll know for sure.
      I'm not offering a mobile website for $297.
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      • Profile picture of the author PeacefulCalamity
        Originally Posted by ncp63837 View Post

        I'm not offering a mobile website for $297.
        Ahah, sorry about that. Guess I read through that sentence quick. Other than that, yeah, I looked at it again and it's possible. Of course, be prepared to do some hefty work!

        Like I posted above, the investment will likely be a lot more.
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  • Profile picture of the author AppsFromHome
    You're not a dreamer...not at all! It's been done before. It WILL be hard work.

    One important thing to remember is that you'll have remain adaptable...you'll need to make changes on the fly, you'll have to hire and fire people, and sometimes the only way to make a decision is by going with your gut instincts and not by hard numbers or analytics.

    Thanks for sharing. It's always motivating to see others with big goals and steps in place to get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    You've got a great basic plan in place.

    Who cares if it seems like too much? You will never know till you "do it". Get going and in 6 months tells us where things are.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      You've got a great basic plan in place.

      Who cares if it seems like too much? You will never know till you "do it". Get going and in 6 months tells us where things are.
      6 months it is. Something else I love about WF, and forums in general...accountability!
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    I think the secret would be a kick ass telemarketing room with motivated agents and A/B script testing and development. Track everything..tweak everything...and reward your rockstars.
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  • Profile picture of the author harryhumph
    297 IS very steep just for hosting, but on the other hand you might be able to charge 297 for a site + $15 hosting.

    You would be doing 100k+ revenue with only 10k investment...
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by harryhumph View Post

      297 IS very steep just for hosting, but on the other hand you might be able to charge 297 for a site + $15 hosting.

      You would be doing 100k+ revenue with only 10k investment...
      A 1000% return isn't bad either. Harryhumph, would you charge the same $15 per month if you were sending, say, 300 targeted visitors to their website? I'm asking because this is the value I hope to provide for each client listed. I'm hoping they will see this value and see the logic in forking over $297/month.
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    Congrats on being committed to taking action and setting a goal. I have the same goal.
    Except I charge $3k per month, abd only need 34 clients.
    To help you succed, consider doing what I do:
    I have every client provide me with 2 referrals as a condition of doing business. I hand the client a sheet that has space for 5 referrals, and tell them I need at least 2. Some business owners give me 2 and some give me 5, but the average is 3.
    Another option to consider:
    Would you be willing to give someone 20% off, if they picked up 5 sites from you? I would hope so. So, when you hand them the referral sheet, tell them that once they refer 4, that become clients, they can have theirs free. Refer 4, pay no more. Now you have 5 clients, getting paid for 4, and it's just like 2p% off. I will be offering the leasing model soon to expand my prospect pool, and help business that can't afford my consulting. This is the method I will apply to that.

    On another note, set incremental goals. Stepping stones that lead to your ultimate goal. Mine is 2 clients a month, I know if I hit that, I am on my way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by vndnbrgj View Post

      Congrats on being committed to taking action and setting a goal. I have the same goal.
      Except I charge $3k per month, abd only need 34 clients.
      To help you succed, consider doing what I do:
      I have every client provide me with 2 referrals as a condition of doing business. I hand the client a sheet that has space for 5 referrals, and tell them I need at least 2. Some business owners give me 2 and some give me 5, but the average is 3.
      Another option to consider:
      Would you be willing to give someone 20% off, if they picked up 5 sites from you? I would hope so. So, when you hand them the referral sheet, tell them that once they refer 4, that become clients, they can have theirs free. Refer 4, pay no more. Now you have 5 clients, getting paid for 4, and it's just like 2p% off. I will be offering the leasing model soon to expand my prospect pool, and help business that can't afford my consulting. This is the method I will apply to that.

      On another note, set incremental goals. Stepping stones that lead to your ultimate goal. Mine is 2 clients a month, I know if I hit that, I am on my way.
      On your way indeed! Do you charge $3k just for being listed on a directory website? That really seems like a lot. Or is that for more value, such as telephone consulting, etc.

      I really like the idea of giving a discount for referrals!
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        Originally Posted by ncp63837 View Post

        On your way indeed! Do you charge $3k just for being listed on a directory website? That really seems like a lot. Or is that for more value, such as telephone consulting, etc.

        I really like the idea of giving a discount for referrals!
        No, I charge at least $3k per month for consulting services. Where I help them with every aspect of marketing in their business. $3k for 12 months, followed by $1,500 month after the 12, for online marketing. It may seem like a lot, when you are targeting the wrong business. It comes out to $36k for the year. Not a lot to the right kind of business.

        As far as discounts for referrals, it would just be the 100% disount to the one business that got you 4 more clients. Or the equivalent of all 5 getting 20% off, if that makes sense.
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    Good for you man.

    I know people who have made a lot more than $1,000,000 a year with directory sites. So it's definitely possible. I haven't seen them divide staff into telemarketers and closers though (this is from real life experience).

    Have you considered merging telemarketers and closers to just telemarketers who close?

    With directories you get a lot of impulse type sales. Why would you wanna ruin that by making customers jump through hoops (holding the line for the closer)?

    Selling ad spaces in directories is easy enough for anyone to learn. Including your 5 telemarketers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by KristofferIM View Post

      Good for you man.

      I know people who have made a lot more than $1,000,000 a year with directory sites. So it's definitely possible. I haven't seen them divide staff into telemarketers and closers though (this is from real life experience).

      Have you considered merging telemarketers and closers to just telemarketers who close?

      With directories you get a lot of impulse type sales. Why would you wanna ruin that by making customers jump through hoops (holding the line for the closer)?

      Selling ad spaces in directories is easy enough for anyone to learn. Including your 5 telemarketers.
      HA! KristofferIM, I'm a girl!

      Anyway, it seems in sales, there's often a different person to close the deal; that's why I figured it'd be effective. But yeah, the last thing I would want a hot lead to do is HOLD, so I will give this one some thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    Your math is way off. You're forgetting TONs of expenses, including your lists. For someone to pay $25/lead, and that's accounting for a 100% conversion rate, it'd have to be exclusive and in a highly competitive niche. The niche will come with hardened receptionists and owners alike, along with increased SEO costs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by Mike Grant View Post

      Your math is way off. You're forgetting TONs of expenses, including your lists. For someone to pay $25/lead, and that's accounting for a 100% conversion rate, it'd have to be exclusive and in a highly competitive niche. The niche will come with hardened receptionists and owners alike, along with increased SEO costs.
      You're right, I forgot about the lists. The small cold call testing I've been doing has been with free lists from the library (Reference USA), which takes forever to download.

      I would get my lists through infofree.com which is $50/month.

      However, for cost per lead: Are you dividing $297 by 10 to get the $25? I would hope to send 300 people to their site for $297. (10 per day)

      What other major costs might I be missing?

      What do you think the true SEO costs will be monthly, for a national business directory, where the main keyword gets 60k exact local searches, and the 'city keyword' gets 28 exact searches. Google shows them both to have low competition and a cpc of $3.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I'm all about thinking big, and having big ideas, and big hopes.... but I think you will have a big disappointment in how you'd be approaching things.

    Waiting to have 10 visitors daily from a city, before you even try getting listings, is a problem. You can't afford the SEO for that as a 5K startup.

    Lets break this down a bit.

    Initial costs:
    Phones
    Phone lines or VOIP
    Business Internet
    Desks
    Location
    Business License
    Liability
    Incorporating???
    Building your directory
    SEO of the directory
    Printer, fax, copier, scanner
    Paper, supplies, staplers, pens, etc.
    Power Bill
    Water Bill
    Hosting
    Credit Card Processing fees
    Chargeback fees(these WILL happen)
    autodialer
    infofree account
    lead management setup

    Okay, now that we have that out of the way....Lets look at your estimates.
    Revenue $100,000 per month
    340 ($297/month) clients
    1 client out of 200 calls
    70,000 calls (1250 daily)
    5 telemarketers frontline (250 calls each, daily)
    1 closer (for 6 phone closes per day)

    Expenses $4000 - $8400 per month
    $4400/month (TMs $10/hour, $25 to $50 spiffs) (3 months only)
    $2000/month (VA/Telemarketer to replace cancellations) (After 3 months)
    $10/month website hosting
    $2000-$4000/month SEO/Advert (company identified and spoken with)
    First thing, if you aren't using an autodialer, expect them to make 100-150 calls each day, IF they're motivated. If you're trying them out, some will probably only make 50 calls. So your immediate estimations should be cut in half... we're no longer at 1 mill... we're at 500K.

    Now.. lets talk about your price. It's a ripoff. Even greedy companies like yellowbook aren't charging that much for directory listings. You're unlikely to get a #1 ranking website 300 hits a month locally, depending on the market and industry. BUUUUUT... let's just be optimistic and hope it works out.

    6 Telemarketers working 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week at $10/hr... is $400/wk per person. $2,400/wk payroll cost. Essentially $9,200/mo. Now... lets say each of them close 1 sale a day, 6 sales daily, thats 120/mo in sales you gross 35,600 something. They get $50 a pop, which is $6,000/mo and their base salary brings your net to 26440. Subtract that 6K, you're at 20K for the month. For 35,600 in sales, you're paying 2% credit card fees, which will land you at $700ish... then at the end of the month you find out that your up front fees don't cover unqualified and mid qualified rates, so add another 1,500-2,000 in credit card fees, round up to be safe, at 3K/mo. Now we're at 17K.

    Your SEO costs, 4K/mo until you realize the company can't handle a national directory like that, and you find one that can and the cost is between 8-12k/mo, but once again, lets give them the benefit of the doubt and say its 4K... we're now down to 13K/mo net.

    Minus lease, rent, power, inet, insurance, payroll tax, and all that other BS... you have a better idea than me, but I would say around 5K to be safe. That would have you at 8K/mo. Don't even try telling me you would do this all from home and trust the telemarketers they're being honest with the amount of calls they're making lol.

    Your plan to have the telemarketers be done after 3 months is very inaccurate. If it worked as you have planned, you would be addicted and they will continue working and you continue to scale up. You don't say OKAY, that's GOOD ENOUGH... for those that are successful, NOTHING is GOOD ENOUGH.

    Anyway... I don't think how you see it, is a million dollar business, but it could be with some adjustments and learning along the way.

    I'm sure you can do it, and it doesn't have to be a million dollar business your first year you know... it may take some time and adjustments. Shoot for 100K before 1M.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I'm all about thinking big, and having big ideas, and big hopes.... but I think you will have a big disappointment in how you'd be approaching things.

      Waiting to have 10 visitors daily from a city, before you even try getting listings, is a problem. You can't afford the SEO for that as a 5K startup.

      Lets break this down a bit.

      Initial costs:
      Phones
      Phone lines or VOIP
      Business Internet
      Desks
      Location
      Business License
      Liability
      Incorporating???
      Building your directory
      SEO of the directory
      Printer, fax, copier, scanner
      Paper, supplies, staplers, pens, etc.
      Power Bill
      Water Bill
      Hosting
      Credit Card Processing fees
      Chargeback fees(these WILL happen)
      autodialer
      infofree account
      lead management setup

      Okay, now that we have that out of the way....Lets look at your estimates.


      First thing, if you aren't using an autodialer, expect them to make 100-150 calls each day, IF they're motivated. If you're trying them out, some will probably only make 50 calls. So your immediate estimations should be cut in half... we're no longer at 1 mill... we're at 500K.

      Now.. lets talk about your price. It's a ripoff. Even greedy companies like yellowbook aren't charging that much for directory listings. You're unlikely to get a #1 ranking website 300 hits a month locally, depending on the market and industry. BUUUUUT... let's just be optimistic and hope it works out.

      6 Telemarketers working 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week at $10/hr... is $400/wk per person. $2,400/wk payroll cost. Essentially $9,200/mo. Now... lets say each of them close 1 sale a day, 6 sales daily, thats 120/mo in sales you gross 35,600 something. They get $50 a pop, which is $6,000/mo and their base salary brings your net to 26440. Subtract that 6K, you're at 20K for the month. For 35,600 in sales, you're paying 2% credit card fees, which will land you at $700ish... then at the end of the month you find out that your up front fees don't cover unqualified and mid qualified rates, so add another 1,500-2,000 in credit card fees, round up to be safe, at 3K/mo. Now we're at 17K.

      Your SEO costs, 4K/mo until you realize the company can't handle a national directory like that, and you find one that can and the cost is between 8-12k/mo, but once again, lets give them the benefit of the doubt and say its 4K... we're now down to 13K/mo net.

      Minus lease, rent, power, inet, insurance, payroll tax, and all that other BS... you have a better idea than me, but I would say around 5K to be safe. That would have you at 8K/mo. Don't even try telling me you would do this all from home and trust the telemarketers they're being honest with the amount of calls they're making lol.

      Your plan to have the telemarketers be done after 3 months is very inaccurate. If it worked as you have planned, you would be addicted and they will continue working and you continue to scale up. You don't say OKAY, that's GOOD ENOUGH... for those that are successful, NOTHING is GOOD ENOUGH.

      Anyway... I don't think how you see it, is a million dollar business, but it could be with some adjustments and learning along the way.

      I'm sure you can do it, and it doesn't have to be a million dollar business your first year you know... it may take some time and adjustments. Shoot for 100K before 1M.
      1 of the 2 people I was hoping would take some time to respond!! Because I know you'll deliver the truth as you see it.

      With what you've listed, I will have to take my start-up costs up from $5k to around $6k to allow for 4 of the 19 initial costs you listed. This is ofcourse if I can't start out at home.

      What I could have mentioned initially is that I will start with 3 TMs (1st 2 weeks). By then I will have generated $9k and $6k in revenue, which will more than pay for the TMs for the 2nd week then another 2 weeks (a little risky, yeah). By the 5th week, an additional $36k will be due.

      I didn't break down the start-up costs, just like I didn't break down the revenue starting out, which will be less than $100k. I guess I didn't want to make the post any longer than what it is.

      Since I don't want to make this one too long, I'll try to leave out as many details as possible but explain what I have and haven't considered.

      The other 4 items I either already have (phone, computer, internet, bills, hosting, supplies, etc. and will only hire TMs with their own); don't need (location) because it's homebased for all, meaning we will skype; or have accounted for in the $5k (licenses, incorporation, credit card fees, website/directory, etc.). BUT you said DON'T EVEN try to tell you I'm doing this from home...uuum SO I WON'T

      What I did not account for is the chargeback fees, infofree.com account set-up?? (didn't see an account set-up, only a $50/month fee), liability, which is huge, and lead set-up management. Perhaps you can elaborate on the last one because I don't know what I don't know.

      I would absolutely use autodialers, but yeah without motivation, we can cut the 250 in half, to be conservative. If the bonus isn't working to instill some motivation, though, I'll have to look into bumping $50 up to $75.

      I don't think $297 is greedy at all AS LONG as I'm providing the value. I would pay 5 times that if I, in return, picked up 1 customer with a lifetime value of $10k! I would certainly decrease the fee if I can't get 300 local visitors for them.

      Whoooaa! My payroll calc was way off. Actually my calculations on paper were accurate, I just posted the wrong number here. Payroll comes to $17k /month. 6 TMs, 7 hrs daily, $10/hr = $420. $50 to 5 TMs for 6 sales and $25 to closer for 6 sales = $400. $820/day times 21 days = $17,220.

      ....I know that's beside the point, but just in case someone else needed clarification...starting out, I was ALWAYS looking for posters to talk to the masses, not just to whom they're replying.

      iamnameless, can you PLEASE explain the midqualified/unqualified rates. I'll be using paypal and don't know what you mean by this.

      Yup, I can see SEO costs going up!

      With the location costs added (along with all the other costs) and the revenue being chopped by not having an autodialer nor motivated TMs, how would someone wanting a $100k business make it happen?? I've been reduced down from $1.2M revenue to $96k net, LOL! With the exception of a few contributing factors, that's like a $100k/year revenue business being reduced to $8k net, LMFAO!

      You're right, NOTHING is good enough!! I was thinking 90 days would be good because I would want to make some really big moves after that--sort of branch off a little to serve more people and build a stronger & more long-lasting brand. I might be dreaming once again, but I hope to prove!

      Maaan, you have really put this into TRUE perspective for me! Thank you so very much for taking the time to give what I posted some serious thought. It really was JUST what I was looking for.

      You gave me a few punches, then nicely massaged the bruises in the end. You do that well.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      That plan is more beautiful than Cindy Crawford and and Pamela Anderson sitting on top of a big pile of money!




      Originally Posted by vndnbrgj View Post

      Congrats on being committed to taking action and setting a goal. I have the same goal.
      Except I charge $3k per month, abd only need 34 clients.
      Now there is a concept....... Even at $1,000 its only 100 clients. (I like to over estimate a bit...)
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        Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

        That plan is more beautiful than Cindy Crawford and and Pamela Anderson sitting on top of a big pile of money!

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        Now there is a concept....... Even at $1,000 its only 100 clients. (I like to over estimate a bit...)
        John, you're the 2nd person I was hoping to hear from! I really would like you to point out any flaws you might see, that the others haven't touched on. For example, is expecting to land 1 $297 client out of 200 calls realistic?

        One person mentioned $297 being a ripoff...but you're suggesting $1000. I actually got this whole idea being possible from findlaw.com, which charges $1000/month. The lifetime customer value for an attorney is a little more than that of my potenetial client, but not much more.

        I'm also sure they spent way more on their website, and more on driving/pulling traffic. But they have a lot more listings than I'll have, i.e., more businesses to share that traffic.

        So what do you think Mr. Durham?
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      Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler View Post

      Snap back to reality, Oh there goes gravity.
      Eminem

      Nothing wrong with dreaming big my friend but it helps to actually do research to know some real numbers.
      I was going to say something innappropriate because I think Eminem is a Busta!

      But then I really thought about those words, and they actually rang true, lol. If I decide to move out of the home and bring the TMs with me, my expenses go up exponentially. I won't do that, however, unless I come into another $5k.
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    Dream big my friend! I love the passion and the ambition.
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    $297 per month is pretty realistic out of 200 calls with the plan you have there. The "T.O." is the big key.

    Seriously , in this big world, is 340 clients really that much to ask for?
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      $297 per month is pretty realistic out of 200 calls with the plan you have there. The "T.O." is the big key.

      Seriously , in this big world, is 340 clients really that much to ask for?
      DOH, I missed this...sorry. (I need to go to bed now)

      Would you mind elaborating on the T.O. being the big key. Am I on the right track having that position in the mix?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by ncp63837 View Post

        DOH, I missed this...sorry. (I need to go to bed now)

        Would you mind elaborating on the T.O. being the big key. Am I on the right track having that position in the mix?

        Ah it was YOU who inspired the TO thread after all!

        Okay, just look through the offline section for a thread that says "Ooops I forgot...." in the title, and that is where I reveal the whole definition of a TO and how to use one.
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    If your gonna dream, dream big. Let's face it. Everyone of us on this forum are dreamers. Some of them have made their dreams reality through hard work and dedication. Others are still chasing the dream like me.
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