Coaching???

I'm launching something in a few weeks for offliners and consultants. It has been in the works for a while.

Im not going to be doing personal coaching per say, but Im planning on opening different paid areas of my forum, sort of like advanced training classes... based on different subjects that I want to teach specifically, and areas where I feel I can help people. It will give participants more individual attention, and also help me to get all of my online training work accomplished under one roof.

You can follow me on Twitter. I will announce there. Shoot me an instant message and I will connect with you directly when it opens for secret squirrel advance signups.

I just added you on Twitter.


Curious to see what other "offline" coaching programs are available.

Lets keep this thread going. I have already received a couple of PM's from people who are interested as well.

I decided to offer coaching due to the fact that a lot of people on the forum are pushing the same kinds of things. Now, there is nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing.
There is just a whole lot more to being a marketing consultant than selling SEO and websites.

So, my point was to work with people one on one to educate them on everything marketing so they could take their business to the next level. I have considered lowering my price to make it more affordable.... but I want people that take my coaching to take action and succed.
I can't devote as much time to someone at a lower price point.

Plus the higher price weeds out all the tire kickers. Also, I don't really need to. I get paid well currently as is. It would just be my way of helping others. However over the next month I am going to begin testing a new marketing concept. I could use help and I know if people took my coaching we would be on the same page.

At a lower price point of say $497, I could probably ccommit to around 5 hours a month, and that would be more in a group type setting.
Whereas, at $5k, I come to you and we work together until you make your investment back forcing you to take action.

Rolltide...

You've been here for a while now. You know MORE than most people here, even more than most people who are already doing very well. What's the problem? What's stopping you from hitting the next level?

Dude, you don't need these people soliciting their coaching programs, or those that have a sudden spike in activity to pre-sell their garbage...you need you. They're not going to do anything for you that you can't do.

If you feel like you need help getting above where you are now, then I'll coach you, FREE. Before you jump at that offer... really think about it. I don't think you need coaching. You need to learn to evaluate and analyze where you're at, and make changes and adjustments in order to improve. A coach isn't always able to do that.

Many good points in this thread. IAMNAMELESS, I will be in touch. From the feedback I have received it is obvious many other people are looking for the same thing.

A lot of guys here know their stuff. And now nameless us offering you help? Take it if you need it. A generous dude.

Rolltide, you definitely seem to have an undying passion and the drive for marketing, it's pretty obvious. Take IAN up on that offer!

I think you should take IAm up on his offer as well.
He is a smart guy that is doing well in his business.
You could learn a lot from him.

Edit: remove offensive bits.

What level are you at? You don't have to be specific, but on a scale from "I'm paying my bills" to "I have a lambo out front (and it's mine (and it's paid for))" how are you doing?

What is the main area you want to focus on improving? Sales funnel, upselling, client acquisition, etc?

Where do you want to be? $100k a year? $50k? Knowing where you want to be is vitally important to figuring out how to get there. You can't plan a route without a destination.

Answer these either on this forum or privately, but answer them. Then, map out how to work backwards and get to where you want to be.

Rolltide,

First of all, it looks like the Crimson Tide are going to have another banner year!

I agree that there seems to be much less options on the WF when it comes to OFFLINE Coaching. I personally would just dive in the water a little bit with some business contacts that you already know.

I remember I got started by helping out a plumber friend of my sister. He was getting ripped off by a local PPC company and didn't even know it. I knew little about local PPC at the time, but what I did know BLEW HIM AWAY. I make an easy $500 - 750 per month with him taking a percentage of is add spends. Plumbers spend alot of $$$$$ on leads.

Here's the big key for YOU rolltide....

A: Stick with one plan (You succeed and get bored too easily and move on it seems)

B: Create a cookie cutter sales and fulfillment system out of that one plan.

C: Get yourself 10k

D: Go open a small call center on a shoes string with 4-5 people

E: You and those 4-5 people go balls to the wall and have a passionate time driving your business to 3-5 sales per day.

Expand once you have hit your intitial production bechmark consistently for 30 days (Say 25k or whatever).

F: Do not veer from your cookie cutter system... if a guy says "Yeah but I want more I want face book, and article marketing, and newsletter management, and reputation management...

DO NOT BITE!!!

Send him to Iamnameless or someone for a commission, but YOU only take business that works with your cookie cutter system.

1: Fulfillment is always the same
2: Common issues and solutions are always the same.
3: Duplication is always the same
4: The same repeated actions always produce the same results.
5: Billing and receiving are always the same.

Emyth. Cookie Cutter.

If I was your coach, thats what I would have you doing.

Ps. Once you hit your production goals, hire a couple more telemarketers, but ALSO hire a couple of people to sit there and do nothing but INTERNET marketing for 8 hours per day!

Have them for 10-12 bucks per hour sitting there 8 hours per day posting craiglist ads, and doing other advertising...


PPS> Iamnameless, you just opened up what us southern boys call a good ole fashioned can of worms... lol

I am around the 3K/mth mark right now. I plan to take that to the 7-10k/mth range. With a little coaching , I think it is very feasible. I know of others on this forum who are looking as well. I am just the crazy guy who ain't scared to put my name out there asking for help

JD,
I agree 100 percent with everything you said(that may be a first. ha). I am ADD as everything. My mind(damn good one i might add wonders off way too much. Actually, I have a Dr. appointment at 8am on the 20th to get that taken care of. My chiro client referred me to one of his friends. Time to be at 10K a month within 90 days. I will bring you a little "white lightning" once I get to that level .

a good business and sales book will do wonders.

@ Chris,

Better yet, do what I did once. Let those 3 or 4 telemarketers sit there and just pitch all day and TO closes to you, and show everyone that the system works solid. Then train a TO so you can surf all day while they sell.

Some really great ideas for very early starting guys who haven't even really started their business.

If you're so early stage in your business that you need a cookie-cutter strategy to figure out how to make sales, you're not my client/student. If you're doing at least $300K/year in sales, I can possibly help take you to $5-20 million.

My approach to coaching (actually it's more "mentoring") isn't to actually go tell people exactly what to do. If you need that level of help, that's more than I can provide, and I am certainly glad there are folks who will help by giving away their time at that level.

I ask lots of questions. Then I listen to their business ideas, their goals, their resources and skills, and I inject knowledge only when and where it's warranted and appropriate.

I do like the "sudden spike in activity to presell their garbage" though. Cute.

@ Michael

I agree with one thing; Iamnameless is opening up a can of worms offering personal coaching for free, thats for sure... we live and learn though.

LOL... you don't need to make the case for giving away time.

John Durham knows full well I give away my time for the right person and purpose. Paying it forward is the only way to become successful.

I am gonna take IAMNAMELESS up on the offer!

JD knows how us Southern boys are

Honestly, I'm suprised more guys didn't come out of the woodwork to promote their coaching programs.

I dont think there is a WHOLE lot more to it than the way we already tell it Chris... pretty much all a guy is missing is a clock to punch or a person to be accountable to.

rolltide, what is your business? I think some here are misunderstanding the question. Is that you have a coaching business and you want to learn how to take this niche to the next level?

Is your business more about self-help coaching, money coaching, relationship?

Please be clear, maybe I can help!

Andrew

IAMNAMELESS has firmly stuck his boot up my A$$. I have been running on the freelance title for the past yr and a half. After speaking with him for an hour yesterday, we decided its time to get a site up and running. I bought the domain. Now, I have outsourced the project. I should have it up over the weekend. On Monday, we are gonna hit the ground running with a marketing plan. I am excited about the direction my business is headed. Everyone could use a little coaching. Even "gurus" like the one's who were trying to sell their coaching on this thread

will be following you on twitter.

Thanks

I guess I'm missing something. If you are working for a business owner doing whatever, SEO, site build, PPC again whatever, are you not coaching him? Or are you just doing the work and not keeping him excited about what your doing? Coaching is motivating and that keeps people connected to the activity. Personally I look at every client relationship as a coaching process that is ongoing with the ultimate goal of continually improving the relationship.

Just my 2 cents

I have been coaching individuals since early 2011 to become Offline Marketing Consultants.
Sent you a PM. I personally feel its a great career choice :-)

I tested my sales page before launching a WSO and I had few students take me up for the offer but decided I didn't want to move forward with the wso.

1 on 1 Offline Coaching
(check it out if you want but I'm not taking on any coaching students right now)

I love helping & networking with entrepreneurs and that's the main reason I got into offline businesses but coaching takes A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL of energy out of you. I think I give more attention to the coaching students than to my actual offline clients and it became a problem.

At one point I even shared my EXACT marketing piece but some just dont take action. You're not a warrior just because you have a sword, you need to take action and fight the battle in order to be a warrior. I think we all have the sword... we just need to take massive action.

just take massive action and if NOTHING works, then look for a coach/mentor.

the clients are out there waiting for you... GO GET EM TIGER!!!

It's a different type of ball game. Offline could be quite satisfying as you can personally see how they react with your information, and you can change it as you go - depending on how people interpret your information.

Online just means that you keep coaching on a non-personal level and information is general for everyone. You can spend your time doing other things while your coaching program turns over passive income.

It's really personal preference and whether you want that sort of interaction.

I would have to say that 99.9% of those people who think they need a coach don't really need one... (Perhaps they do now because they THINK that???LOL) What is is that they really need is a boot up their A$$ like roletide said he got from Nameless... Good!!!

IAmNameless touched on the biggest problem most people face... Accountability! Most people on this forum are intelligent enough to make a plan. They just never look at the plan again if they ever put it down on paper to begin with.

To all who need help... Write out a Plan... Break it down into daily and weekly goals... Then fill in a spreadsheet or something so you can see where you are as far as meeting your goals always! Snatch a partner or friend if you have a problem being accountable to yourself and have them ask you continuously where you are. It is not hard being accountable to yourself though if you will only write it down or something.

I remember a story from Zig Ziglar I believe it was who said that in his early days of selling he used his family and children to hold him accountable. The incentive was a family vacation that he needed "X" number of $$$ for(say $5,000). He took a piece of string across his living room and had a hot wheels car attached to the string. His children would ask him how much he sold each day in order to move the car down the string closer to the target number he had to hit. You bet his kids kept him motivated and held him accountable for making sales every single day he went out to work.

Write it down somewhere and let reaching your goal be your motivation and hold yourself ACCOUNTABLE.... or we may have to get IAmNameless some new boots!!!