Here's my print ad- please critique.

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I have an ad coming out in a free local publication. It's for the general public and has a circulation of 60,000.

The ad is for an online bridal magazine that I'm promoting at www.TheSteelCityBride.com (for those who saw my previous posts, I had to change the site name because of possible copyright issues).

Anyway, here's the ad that I'll be putting in the publication. It's 3.5" x 3".



Let me know what you think. I know there's no catchy headline but I think it will spark some interest to brides getting married.

Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author RodneyIvanJohnson
    I'm no design expert so i can give you only first impressions that caught my eye.... I think your font in your header in to masculine ( remember brides are feminine so a softer overall feeling with pastell colours is what I'd go for.
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    • Profile picture of the author TyBrown
      Originally Posted by RodneyIvanJohnson View Post

      I'm no design expert so i can give you only first impressions that caught my eye.... I think your font in your header in to masculine ( remember brides are feminine so a softer overall feeling with pastell colours is what I'd go for.

      That was the first thing I thought as well. Didn't feel wedding-y or bride-y.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    I agree with Rodney.

    You need to make it much more elegant and feminine.
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  • Profile picture of the author wally247
    There may be a lot of women Steelers fans who don't want any sissy fonts though!


    I think it looks good.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I'm never a fan of something that doesn't have a phone number on it... but... Ill ignore it lol.

    I don't think there is a big issue with the colors. You might have some husbands to be that won't be alarmed and immediately throw the thing out, whereas if you had that stuff in pink and purple with fairy dust, they'd probably want nothing of the sort entering their home!

    Put a circle around the free report line... itll help, trust me.

    Your biggest issue is the website you're sending them to. You have an opt in form that is off to the right and isn't responsive on all browsers and resolutions. That's the #1 thing to fix in my opinion.

    This is what I see - Pittsburgh wedding - The Steel City Bride | Awesome Screenshot

    I think the print ad, itself, is good. Good enough at least. I think the website itself is not so great, and definitely the area you should focus on a bit more!
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    • Profile picture of the author 512 Designs
      Originally Posted by RodneyIvanJohnson View Post

      I'm no design expert so i can give you only first impressions that caught my eye.... I think your font in your header in to masculine ( remember brides are feminine so a softer overall feeling with pastell colours is what I'd go for.
      Well, if you know anything about Pittsburgh, this is the font for the Steelers football team which is a major (and I mean MAJOR) thing around here. So my main idea is to keep the site a locally oriented as possible. We also own a video production company and tape a lot of weddings. At least half of them wave some sort of Terrible Towels (Steeler fans here will know what that is) during the receptions.

      Originally Posted by wally247 View Post

      There may be a lot of women Steelers fans who don't want any sissy fonts though!

      I think it looks good.
      Thanks for getting what I was trying to create

      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I'm never a fan of something that doesn't have a phone number on it... but... Ill ignore it lol.

      I don't think there is a big issue with the colors. You might have some husbands to be that won't be alarmed and immediately throw the thing out, whereas if you had that stuff in pink and purple with fairy dust, they'd probably want nothing of the sort entering their home!

      Put a circle around the free report line... itll help, trust me.

      Your biggest issue is the website you're sending them to. You have an opt in form that is off to the right and isn't responsive on all browsers and resolutions. That's the #1 thing to fix in my opinion.

      This is what I see - Pittsburgh wedding - The Steel City Bride | Awesome Screenshot

      I think the print ad, itself, is good. Good enough at least. I think the website itself is not so great, and definitely the area you should focus on a bit more!
      Thanks. I like the idea of the circle around the free report line on the ad. As for the opt-in form, that happens to me only when I'm using Firefox. It seems to work fine with IE and Chrome. I have a support call into the company I purchased the template form to see what's up with it.

      I'll update the ad and post it again shortly.

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    • Profile picture of the author jeremygrey245
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Put a circle around the free report line... itll help, trust me.
      I agree with that - make it a different font as well or something else that'll stand out a bit better.

      Also, the Steel City Bridge logo is a little bit hard to read, I might change that if I were REALLY picky but whatever, I think it's a good ad!
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      • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
        I love that you get a free one each month. That just rocks for testing. You'll be able to test and test. And the great thing is that the ads that convert well you can use elsewhere and pay to place them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I'm never a fan of something that doesn't have a phone number on it... but... Ill ignore it lol.

      I don't think there is a big issue with the colors. You might have some husbands to be that won't be alarmed and immediately throw the thing out, whereas if you had that stuff in pink and purple with fairy dust, they'd probably want nothing of the sort entering their home!

      Put a circle around the free report line... itll help, trust me.

      Your biggest issue is the website you're sending them to. You have an opt in form that is off to the right and isn't responsive on all browsers and resolutions. That's the #1 thing to fix in my opinion.

      This is what I see - Pittsburgh wedding - The Steel City Bride | Awesome Screenshot

      I think the print ad, itself, is good. Good enough at least. I think the website itself is not so great, and definitely the area you should focus on a bit more!
      Good stuff. Take his advice.

      You have no headline. Let me say that another way...YOU HAVE NO HEADLINE. Everything looks OK to me except the one thing that generates 80% of the results..THE HEADLINE. and by the way...YOU HAVE NO HEADLINE.

      The name of your business is not a headline, ever.

      How about "Planning A Pittsburgh Wedding? Don't Miss This!"

      Anything to grab attention would help.

      added later; Darn! I has called away before I posted this response, and see that a few Forum members have already offered solid advice and actual makeovers. 512's end result is about as good as it gets.

      Moving on.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    It has all the right elements. However, I'd make the "Bride" in the logo bigger...I didn't understand what it was for at the start and overlooked the word for a second. All I saw was "Steel City"! (Huh?) There's a disconnect all along the top between the Steel City font, the Bride font, and the wedding party photo to the right.

    I'd make that wedding pic bigger and the directory image smaller--maybe swap 'em--since the directory pictures aren't big enough to see much of anything in anyway.

    Totally agree with Nameless on the circle around the Free Report...even though it's red, it didn't draw my eye as standout material I should take action on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Zaydman
    Ok I hope you are ready for some TRUTH, because i am going to be brutally honest with you for your own good...

    Ok First of all it doesn't tell me what it is you are offering?

    Its Vague, not specific, not measurable, not tangible...
    Its More About you the Magazine then me the Consumer... Switch roles when writing AD Copy it helps...

    Where is the Phone Number or Call to Action... Something like a Go Here or Click Here...
    Picture Put a Before/ After to show what will happen if you dont read the Ebook
    What is Avoid Wedding Disasters... Does that mean not having a wedding, having a wedding in a bad location, people not showing up, the groom disappearing, the bride being attacked... What does that mean, specifically...

    Ok I like the colors because its Pittsburgh...
    PM me if you are interested, ill give you some headlines that you can test for yourself and see, feel, and hear the difference...
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  • Profile picture of the author EaglePiServ
    Why don 't you put a few testimonials in the space where the image on the left is? An image of the website is not really a selling/grabbing feature. Just my € 0.02.
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    • Profile picture of the author 512 Designs
      Ok. Here's a second design that's totally different from the first.



      Any thoughts?

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      • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
        Originally Posted by 512 Designs View Post

        Ok. Here's a second design that's totally different from the first.



        Any thoughts?

        Mike
        Go with the first one. This one is tough on the eyes.

        I read in "Cashvertising" that your text should always be darker than the background it is on. The "negative text" (like the one in this ad here - heading and footer) actually makes it more difficult to read and will dramatically reduce the reading speed, making people lose interest in it FAST.

        BTW - I highly recommend "Cashvertising" (it's by Dr. Drew Eric Whitman I believe). If you do any sort of marketing, it is an absolute MUST READ - the tips in it will blow your mind and improve your business without a doubt!
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        • Profile picture of the author Mister Natural
          Originally Posted by bhuff85 View Post


          I read in "Cashvertising" that your text should always be darker than the background it is on.
          One man's opinion.
          White font on darker background hasn't hindered the success of:

          COCA-COLA
          FORD
          GENERAL MOTORS
          HERSHEY
          UNIVERSAL PICTURES


          If it's good,,,,, it's good !
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          • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
            Originally Posted by Mister Natural View Post

            One man's opinion.
            White font on darker background hasn't hindered the success of:

            COCA-COLA
            FORD
            GENERAL MOTORS
            HERSHEY
            UNIVERSAL PICTURES


            If it's good,,,,, it's good !
            Sure, most of the companies mentioned will have their name in lighter text on a darker background. I'm talking more about a long heading or an entire ad with negative text. That's where the reading speed can slow down dramatically.

            The book actually does case studies on this (with plenty of evidence and references to back it up). It's not that it doesn't work or never works, but it can definitely affect your readers, which will ultimately lower conversions.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
              A quick and dirty makeover...



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              • Profile picture of the author Lee M
                Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle View Post

                A quick and dirty makeover...



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                For whatever it's worth ... I'm from Pittsburgh.

                Had 4 women look at this ... (original vs. Mr. Subtle quick makeover).

                Granted, these women (including my wife) are not the perfect target market.

                However, they ALL chose the design by Mr. Subtle.

                I asked WHY ... They collectively said, "Thought the first one had something to do with the Steelers when I first looked. The other design is simple and gets the point across fast."

                My 2 cents.
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                • Profile picture of the author SKO
                  Yes, Mr. Subtle is on to something. It looks better but not free report so why go. I think having a QR code with a call to action to get something free would do the trick with his ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mekanism
    still looks masculine to me. why not try using a fancy font and feminine colors (since you're ditching the steelers idea)?

    but much better with the call to action and clarity.
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  • Profile picture of the author digichik
    A woman's opinion.


    I agree with many of the comments and suggestions made already.


    The Print ad:


    The Steel City font should be reduced a few points and the Bride font should be increased a few points.


    Instead of the bridal party photo you may want to have one of the talented graphic artist here on the forum do a caricature of a bridal party wearing the Steeler colors( Bridesmaids in yellow dresses with black belts, Groom & Groomsmen in black tuxedos with yellow cumberbunds, the bride in white accented with black belt and black-eyed susans for the bouquet). Of course instead of wearing a veil the bride could have on a helmet with a Steel City logo instead of a Steelers logo;-D. You get the idea.


    As Iamnameless suggested, circle the Free Report in red, this will add attention to the ad.


    Your website need lots of work. It's not rendering properly in my browser( Firefox) and it needs more pizzaz. A few more light touches of Steeler, I mean Steel City pride.


    I am a woman and although I like somethings feminine, I can relate to where you are going with your theme and my curiosity would make me look because it's different. Not all women want everything “pink and purple with fairy dust “ as Iamnameless so aptly described.


    You're on the right track, your ad and website just need a little more tweeking.


    I don't like your second print ad at all, it looks to harsh and cheap. Even if I weren't going to spend lots of money on my wedding I still would look at anything that feels super cheap and tasteless.
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    • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
      The first one is better, but don't try punching in Steelers
      colors... soften it up.

      Your bullet points lack interest. Too generic. If I have
      time tomorrow (and remember) I'll come back and
      give you some ideas.

      The 'guide' will likely not work well. Most want to have
      a perfect wedding, not avoid a bad one. That said
      they are likely feeling massive stress of planning.

      "Top 10 Tips to a Stress-Free Wedding" may be better.
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  • Profile picture of the author digichik
    You can soften the ad up by changing the content font(not the header fort) and changing the wedding party photo to a graphic. Please don't add pink to your ad. Pink it too cliche. Be bold and be different, keep the Steelers colors. I am sure there are thousands of brides to be in the Pittsburg area who will appreciate it, and be happy not to be looking at more pink.

    The idea from Paul McQuillan about "Top 10 Tips to a Stress-Free Wedding" is excellent, combined with the Steelers colors, and softening up the ad a bit should get you and excellent response. Just make sure the content on the website is top notch and you should have a unique winner for a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author twersk
    Originally Posted by 512 Designs View Post

    I have an ad coming out in a free local publication. It's for the general public and has a circulation of 60,000.

    The ad is for an online bridal magazine that I'm promoting at www.TheSteelCityBride.com (for those who saw my previous posts, I had to change the site name because of possible copyright issues).

    Anyway, here's the ad that I'll be putting in the publication. It's 3.5" x 3".



    Let me know what you think. I know there's no catchy headline but I think it will spark some interest to brides getting married.

    Mike
    I feel like it's a little to harsh or masculine...at least the font. There is not enough feminine stuff e.g. flowers, a diamond ring, a gown...also your color scheme suggests more Pittsburgh Steelers and less a wedding. Needs a woman's touch!
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    • Profile picture of the author 512 Designs
      Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I went back to the original ad and made it a little more feminine by changing the font and adjusting some sizes. I definitely want to stick with the black and gold theme since that's what makes the site and ad more unique.

      I also changed the report name and added a circle and arrow to it.

      I like the suggestion of removing the bridal party photo and getting some sort of graphic created, but I have to have this ad in to the publication in a few days so I won't have time to do that. However, I'll be advertising in it every month so I can change it up again after this one gets printed.

      So here it is.....

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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by 512 Designs View Post

        Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I went back to the original ad and made it a little more feminine by changing the font and adjusting some sizes. I definitely want to stick with the black and gold theme since that's what makes the site and ad more unique.

        So here it is.....

        Speaking as a female... why would you be asking people who are not in your target demographic about their opinion?

        Focus on approaching women in the age range, location and income bracket that you are aiming for.

        A few tips regarding the color scheme:
        - Generally women prefer soft colors
        - Overall yellow is one of the most disliked and is considered "cheap"

        If you want to stick with the black and gold theme, then at least soften them to pastels.

        You can find out more about color preferences by gender at True Colors Infographic - Breakdown of Color Preferences by Gender
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    hmmm , how about changing , online to authority, or online authority?

    and im guessing the domain Pittsburghcitybride or Pittsburghbride, or Pittsburghweddings
    are taken ?

    You and I and just about everyone reading this thread knows what LOCAL VENDOR means
    i would be willing to bet, a lot of your readers will not.

    "avoid disasters" was way better then just free report... " free report" has become over used
    and you want to stand out, not have the readers gloss over it because its too familiar to them.
    plus... free report for what? no hook.

    wedding planning ideas, needs a tweek... maybe something like "secret", "premier", "killer"

    video interviews... you might want to change to exclusive video interviews.

    Best wedding locations might also need a tweak, maybe something like, "10 best",
    "100 best". , "top 10 voted best", ect

    of course, this is just my opinion, and nothing else... testing, is the only real way to find
    out for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Todd Pedersen
    I like the work you have done. Really showing off your photoshop skills.

    While I am no Ad guru or anything. I might suggest split testing next month with a different Call to Action. Instead of 10 tips for your Wedding, try a coupon for a service (photographer, DJ). It may lead the reader to take action.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I think your first one is still the best... add the circle and I think you'd be better off. I wouldn't worry too much about a masculine font, but as with anything, testing is the key.
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Mike, I'm having to say none will move a bride-to-be to go to your website.

      Here's why...

      They don't have the same elements in top seller mags at the news stand.

      Front covers on them are a major part in their sales.

      Here's a few headlines on a front cover...

      973 Bridal Fashion Wows
      chic gorgeous dresses for every body shape

      X-Factor Flowers

      What's On Trend For 2012

      Throw A Cavier Wedding On A Baked Bean Budget

      They all have the bride on full cover
      Have soft pastel colors.

      Here's a page full of covers
      to measure yourself against,
      because that's what you'll be judged by from the bride-to-be...

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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I don't like the colors for bridal. I understand it is for Pittsburg and those colros go with the city. But yellow, black, and grey don't scream bride to me.

    The 3rd version might be usable if you switch up the color and text a bit.
    For colors look at bride magazines like Ewen suggested.
    The free report cover needs to be redone as well along the same lines.

    As for wording here are some ways i might change it up
    "Pittsburg's Original Digital Wedding Magazine"
    "Latest Wedding Trends & Ideas"
    [Video Interviews? Of who? why should they care? I don't know so I can't reword it]
    [newlywed tips: I'd lose this. Homemoon maybe]
    "Location is Everything: Reviews, Suggestions, and more"
    "Local Wedding Businesses & Specialists Directory"
    Call it a "Guide" and not a report.

    I am not sure how your site works but if it is more like a true magazine with a "monthly issue" format why not use the title of some of your current articles in the add just like a true magazine cover word.

    Here are some Article ideas that you can outscource for free or maybe even get them to pay you for "printing" them. I was having one of those free flowing idea moments so put some titles and ideas down.

    "Stay-tination Weddings: Have your Destination Wedding Locally" - The Local Tourism board will write this for you.

    "Fall Fabulous: The Sun Won't Set On These Dresses" - A bridial Store would love to showcase their fall designs in this article (get them to write it and pay you)

    "Fall into Football: How One Bride Made Her Special Day into His Special Day" - Contact the Steelers and they will be sure to put you in touch with a bride who wanted a Steeler's themed wedding there. Interview her and post the video or use that to write the article

    "2013 Is Your Lucky Number" - Interview some local wedding event locations on how they are either booked solid or underbooked based on 13 supersition. Brides love feeling special and if they still have great dates open you can frame the article around the idea that people fear 2013 but it's allowing the "smart & modern" bride to get the wedding of her dreams with way less competition. You can get these companies you interviewed to buy advertising to place in the article.

    "Better the Second Time" - Interview locals who had a second(or 3rd) wedding or vow renewal and how great it was. Most of the article will be the paragraph or two they each write with you adding some editorial. This kind of article will make you stand out from most bridial stuff that only focuses on first timers. Also even first timers will love reading about these dream weddings. Anytime a business is mentioned by name try to sell them an ad to go on the same or next page.

    "White Isn't Just for Dresses: How to plan the perfect winter wedding" Tourism board again. Also indoor locations that have trouble filling in Jan and Feb will be happy top provide content.

    "Party Like it's 2014: Wedding Reception + New Years Eve = The Party of a Lifetime" - Co-workers son did this and it was an amazing idea. I am sure a few reception halls would love to book out Dec 31, 2013 over a year in advance and would write some content for you. Sell ads in and around this article to bars or similar. A party lover will always want to party. great article to open up your advertising outside of the normal wedding ads you see everywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewAge29
    I'm no expert in print copy so I'll look at it from a prospects point of view.

    If I saw that ad, I'd be more interested in the free 'wedding disasters' report than anything else.

    Why not make that the real focus of the ad?

    I also agree with the others about the font up top. I see where you're going with the Steelers thing though. It really depends on the demo of the paper.
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  • Profile picture of the author newbim
    Hi Mike,

    A couple of thoughts from me in UK:

    * Out of all the designs, I much prefer the last one, maybe instead of the gray to dark gray gradient, I would perhaps use a free brushed metal texture (I don't know about how that works with the team the SteelCity logo emulates) I know plenty of women that don't / didn't subscribe to the white / pastel wedding, so I wouldn't let that put you off.

    * I think the idea about having a coupon is a great idea, and if you combine it with split testing, it could really pay off. Myself, I edit pre-shot wedding footage / montage photos taken by everyone on the day so I know how different weddings can be.

    * On the 3rd design, I think you could make the wedding picture a lot bigger, or even mask the wedding picture with the logo text, it's different, and again, I don't know how that fits in with the team, but it could work.

    * I applaud your bravery. Many times I've had designs I wanted to put on here for scrutiny, and not done it, so bravo!!

    Good luck with the campaign,

    Andy.
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    Ps. Do you have a referral scheme for the vendors you promote? Just an idea .
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Here is the reality Mike as you may already know but cant come out and say it.This magazine ad will not get you very many looks to your website, heck you probably will get more people to look at it from this thread than from the ad. The only chance you have of making it work is hoping to catch the small number of soon to be brides as they are flipping through this rag and making them stop in their tracks.

    People are just not used to taking action from these type of ragazines. They thumb through them looking at the pictures once , maybe twice through as they are sitting and waiting for their appointments at the doctors office or passing time at lunch.
    Something has to REALLY be appealing for them to take some kind of action NOW, they will not remember this one tiny ad in a mag filled with ads and pictures.

    Use some salacious headlines like Aaron mentioned, your current bullets are totally uninspiring. Avoid disasters is much more appealing than stress free wedding in the context of raising curiosity. What about the QR code, you're gonna get a light response anyway might as well give them every chance possible to get the guide. Scan the code and get access to this guide IMMEDIATELY.

    Im not saying that all these tips about exact colors , fonts and manly vs feminine is wrong im just saying that they are not nearly as important as people are making them seem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Zaydman
    By the way 10 is not a number the Brain Processes Well... The Psychology behind it needs to be 5+- 2 so it could be 7 tips for a stress free wedding... Can you make the Stress more specific... What kind of stress paint the picture...
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  • Profile picture of the author sadneck
    I have to agree with most users here. Both ads appear very masculine, although I do like the second ad better as it conveys a sense of ps'ed-ness.... My honest first impression when I saw your top ad was, "Why is there the word bride next to steel city, what the heck is going on?"

    It did make me read more... Come to think of it, thats a good thing..!

    Okay, never mind, very nice. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    [QUOTE=Aaron Doud;6764383]I am not sure how your site works [QUOTE]


    I was reading this thread again and soemthing stood out about what I wrote. I literally didn't visit your site. Even while talking about it and your ad. I wasn't drawn in.


    You need people to do 3 things.
    1. See your ad. You have to make it draw attention while they are flipping thru the magazine.


    2. Take action. What action? Visit your website.


    3. Once at the website be drawn in enough to stick around and visit again.


    Eddie sums it up well. You need to consider when this ad will be seen and approach it that way. Based on this line of thinking here is how I would approach the 3 points above.


    1. The ad needs to be something that really stands out and soemthing that will make a bride pause. You are targeting brides so you only really want them. So I would make the ad a picture of a wedding dress or similar.

    2. You want them to visit your website right then. They likely will be reading this free magazine while sitting and waiting. The magazine is boring. Your site could be way more exciting. Play that up.

    "Hey you. Yeah you.
    You look bored. I guess that explains why this magazine was free, doesn't it?
    See this Bride? Doesn't she look happy? Know why?
    She's smiling because
    thesteelcitybride.com
    Gave her fabulous wedding ideas.
    So why don't you follow her lead?
    Pull out your phone
    Head over to
    thesteelcitybride.com
    and pass the time in a more enjoyable way."

    Basically make soemthing like that to draw them in and take action now. I'd put the bride picture on one side and the text in a column to the right. Use a read arrow like your get free report to point her out from the line about her smiling.

    3. Finally make the content great so every bride that reads the site continues to come back.

    Just sharing more ideas here. Hope they help.
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    • Profile picture of the author 512 Designs
      Thanks for everyone's suggestions and opinions (especially Aaron).

      The good part about the ad is that I get to put one in this magazine every month for free. So I'll have lots of opportunities to test different ones. I'll re-read everyone's posts and start designing various ads and see what works.

      Test...test....test.

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  • Profile picture of the author EaglePiServ
    How about a:

    "Warning: Consumer Awareness Guide - How Brides Get Ripped Off When Planning Their Wedding"

    As an aside - I've hired Mr. Subtle in the past and he's a true stand-up professional. You won't go wrong paying attention to him....
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    Steel city should bold and please change the color (any dark)
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    • Profile picture of the author 512 Designs
      Ok. I took Mr. Subtle's simpler and everyone else's "more wedding" approach and created this.



      FYI...That's an actual photo I took while we were videotaping this bride and groom's wedding. And yes I asked the bride's permission to use it

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        Originally Posted by 512 Designs View Post

        Ok. I took Mr. Subtle's simpler and everyone else's "more wedding" approach and created this.



        FYI...That's an actual photo I took while we were videotaping this bride and groom's wedding. And yes I asked the bride's permission to use it

        Mike
        This is a fine point, but it's important.

        When you're splitting up your headline into multiple lines, you have to be careful how you do that. Each line within the headline should be a complete thought or idea.

        Here's how your headline reads:

        Need Help Planning Your Picture

        Perfect Pittsburgh Wedding


        If I'm reading that, I might think this is a wedding photography ad.
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        • Profile picture of the author helterskelter
          Just a quick heads up in case you end up running with this version - you're missing an "n" in "planning."
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    512 really like the new design.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee M
    Originally Posted by cdl512 View Post

    Here is something that nobody has said and will be huge for you! Get rid of "Pittsburgh's #1 Online Wedding Magazine"
    If you say it, it is meaningless and gets ignored. If someone else says it then it builds credibility.
    The problem is people are anesthetized to marketing speak. They see it and instantly distrust it. That is the wrong thing to say at WF because people here are obsessed with hyped headlines. Being clear will go farther than being persuasive.
    You need to figure out what your Value Proposition is and then communicate it.
    Don't get me started on your website. If you want people to spend more than 2 seconds on it make it 1 column not 4. People will scroll down a page if you have their attention but the first 7 seconds someone gets to your website they don't know what they can do there.
    This may be the best advice you received yet - just my 3 cents.
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    Originally Posted by cdl512 View Post

    512 designs - you don't have to listen to me. I only have 10 years and probably 100,000 hrs of testing and study in this. It is my one and only passion. I conduct my tests like true science experiments. If you think your design is ok, answer these questions; what is the purpose of the home page? how many objectives does the home page have? (max of 3) How many people actually opt in to your report? What kind of validity tests have you run testing layout? Just because a major player is running multiple columns does not mean it is optimum or the best thing for you. The biggest problem you have is that you are running 4 equally weighted columns with 4 competing objectives. If you have 1 main column and then a support column that is fine. In 7 seconds you need to answer 2 questions, 1. were am I and 2. what can I do here.
    The guide is not a bad idea but DON'T EVER EVER EVER USE THE WORD "SUBMIT" to get people to opt in. You are asking the person to submit to you. how is that a positive experience. You are asking for people to opt in for the report before you have answered the what and why. You say most visitors are on for 5 min and some longer. Can you tell me how many visitors and how are those people getting to your website? Are they coming from a search query, direct link or some other traffic source?
    Ok. Now I see what you're saying. I think I can create a main column or at least a larger top "Feature Story" column with the other smaller ones below it. I'll have to check the Wordpress Theme I'm using to do that. I do know I can break up the home page with a couple of double column sized posts. That should keep them from being all the same weight. My plan was to make it look like an actual magazine and not a normal blog that you usually see.

    As for the free guide, I'll actually be changing that in a few days to make it more enticing. I have a new guide that I'm creating and will re-design the opt-in area and will change the "submit" on the button to something else. Thanks for the suggestions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      OK! I want to talk about the most important thing here. How come one of you is 512 Designs and the other one is cdl512?

      What am I missing here? What does 512 mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony Carrera
    since its in a Free Publication i would think you would try to differentiate yourself

    if your trying to make sales and not just brand yourself then your going to need to adress your market directly, stimulate their desire about the subject and ask them to take action on what ever it is that you would like them to do

    hop this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Trev81
    I would remove the #1 Pittsburgh Wedding Magazine and change the font of the website address to the one in the photo, and also to all lowercase. I think it will have a better flow to it.
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