to the one that had the balls to PM me and say, how dare i give direct mail advice.

by kenmichaels

Posted: 12 years ago 10 replies

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Well, i was going to tell you where to go, and how to get there.

but instead, ill take this moment to say.

Just because i talk phone sales, don't for one minute think its
all i know, or all i do. It just happens to be what i like to talk about.

When the threads about "where to go online to get the best
deal on post cards or flyers", or "who is running a special"

I don't jump in, because its boring

When threads start asking what kind of DM works better, lumpy
single pages, postcards, catalogs ect

I don't jump in, because its all about testing, individual success will
vary with each persons campaign.

When i have a job that needs to be done or a campaign that needs
to be created and tested, this is how i roll.

runningjobs - YouTube

comletedjobs - YouTube

but i guess maybe your right... my DM advice is worthless, i am just
a phone spammer trying to sucker the newbies and i have never mailed
anything in my life...

#advice #balls #dare #direct #give #mail

Rearden 12 years ago

DM bragging rights for sure -- but YouTube STILL suggests Justin Bieber videos after viewing your Mail Production videos...
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- jimbo13 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rearden
  
  DM bragging rights for sure -- but YouTube STILL suggests Justin Bieber videos after viewing your Mail Production videos...
  
  Can't say that is what I noticed.
  
  Dan
  
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  kirbymarketingconcierge 12 years ago
  
  right on Ken!
  
  you live in Reality, and your a good person to ask for directions.
  
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danielsteven 12 years ago

Lol.... gets my vote for best thread title!
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bob ross 12 years ago

Yeah that's really screwed up, I have a call room with six telemarketers and I never really talk about cold calling much but I'd be pissed if someone told me "how dare you..."

Both cold calling and direct mail are almost impossible to explain how to do right to someone who doesn't really have experience in the first place with it. I've never met someone who really understands how the numbers and variables work until they've tried it (and most of the time failed at it).

Taking action is actually not nearly as difficult as keeping up at it once you realize how much work it really is to make it effective. Then it finally becomes easy after that realization. But I've never found anyone that can understand it without actually some seriously depressing moments and mistakes first. What a moron.

I hope that idiot read this thread and goes back to wondering if his wordpress design service will pick up if he can just angle the stamps crookedly enough to increase the open rate. Or maybe find the birth year of the target owner and put lucky pennies with that year on them in the envelope!
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- TheCG 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bob ross
  
  Find the birth year of the target owner and put lucky pennies with that year on them in the envelope!
  
  Damn you Bob! There you go giving away my secret to 99% open rates! haha
  
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  DWolfe 12 years ago
  
  Dont let it get to you Ken, you can always report the person. Than he really would have a reason to say How Dare you ..
  
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  sandalwood 12 years ago
  
  Ken,
  
  I guess this dummy doesn't understand this sub-forum. Isn't its purpose to give advice and help? If not, we need a new sub-forum.
  
  Still trying to connive my way back to Daytona btw. That damned beach was one hell of a party palace back in the days...
  
  Tom
  
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PeacefulCalamity 12 years ago

Ken calling em out, like a boss.

From what I hear, you're a pretty awesome marketer, so keep it up man.
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John Durham 12 years ago

I have to say That Ken, since I have gotten to know him via skype, not only impresses me but kind of "astounds" me a bit. This dude is serious marketing talent.

If I told even a tenth of the secrets he has taught me recently and sold it as a WSO I would be rich over night and so would alot of other people...but me lips er sealed!
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