What is included in your SEO package

Hey Luke, it depends on what I charge for my services and the current rankings of the client. Long established local businesses often have many citations for example, so just by claiming their Google Places/Plus page you can achieve page 1 rankings in some instances.

If you were doing 'fully blown' SEO and charging good money for it then I would include a number of pages to be optimised and do the other on page SEO, the amount would depend on the competition and what I needed to do.

Hope that helps

this is a silly question. Why would you only do half the job? For that matter if you are any good at your job why do you charge a flat fee and limit your income? The goal of any business is to get more customers. SEO alone does not do that. Why not negotiate an up front fee to get started like $1,500 and then charge a lead/sale fee from there? I have 5 clients. Have had the same 5 clients for the last 2 years. I have equity in each business now as well as getting paid per result. When I started with the first client I did everything for them because it was needed. There is no way he could have afforded everything I did if I charged a fee and I would not have made close to what I have from him. Keep charging for services and you will never make real money!

no you did not, you asked if it was part of the SEO package. What you put in your last post is a strategy question. What you put to start this thread is a business question. You might have seen it as the same thing but I didn't. The real question you are asking is does on page SEO factor into your SEO service? The answer to that is the same from me. A silly question. If you are doing SEO on a daily basis you know if it is needed or not. Looking at the quality of the sites in your footer my guess is you are still figuring out what is and is not needed. The answer is it is all needed if you want to do the job right.

Thanks for visiting those sites. Yea I know they are nothing special. I think it took me maybe 30 minutes to create them. They are test sites that I created to test to see if how and if I could rank for certain keywords that were somewhat difficult so I would know how and what works when it comes to seo. Better to test out my sites then a customers.

Well it was meant to be a strategy question. Thanks for clarifying....SMH

luke - if those are test sites then you need to learn how to test. How do you test SEO with something half assed? I assure you any information you think you got from those sites is not valid. Unless you were testing to see if the TSAWASWS method still works in 2012.

I do not offer my clients On-Page SEO together with my SEO packages. I charge them $20 to optimise 5 pages of their websites. Most of my clients are SEO companies in the US, UK, Canada and Australia. The cheapest SEO package I offer them is $100 monthly and $250 being the most expensive. I offer them deals and discounts if they hire me to do multiple projects for them.

Luke, when I do seo for my clients I belive you HAVE to offer on page SEO. Your work will go in vain if their website is not optimized correct. So yes every package I offer I do on page SEO. If they dont give me the username/password (which they all have no problems) then I tell them what needs to be done. I tell them this any way so they know what I am doing.

Hey why you wanna go such kind of comp,complexity ,
you can do your own SEO,or
you can hire any expert from any freelancing site I think it will be helpful for you to get better result.

I usually sell it as Online Marketing to clients. Then, I assess their business needs. Each site/business has different needs. I don't really go into seriously detailed stuff with the client. I really just listen to them and their needs. Then, I focus on benefits and value. But, it's always based on what type of results they want to see.

As far as the linkbuilding, videos, on page/off page I'll get into it only if they know what I'm talking about and want to know the details. If you go into it otherwise you might lose the sale with a bunch of stuff they could care less about. It's all about the benefits/value to them and their business. That is all.

Luke,

I agree with DNChamp about the need for onPage SEO. In the proposal I explain both on and off page SEO. I then break it up so that I can make sure I get paid correctly as all on page SEO optimization is not the same for each client.

To do this I've created a product which is called "On page SEO report". I will charge $150 - $300 for this report. I then give them the option for me to hand over the report to their web designer, or have us do the work. In the report I always give an estimate of the time to do the work. If they take the option of "us doing the work" that's a simple $120 per hour calculation. By taking this approach often times it's much easier to just let them do the work and you charge for the monthly off page SEO.

The cost section of my proposal will look similar to this:
Off Page SEO - $1000 per month
OnPage Report - $200
Cost to do OnPage work - $1500

The initial on page work is a one-time cost while off page SEO can go for months and months. I also try to initiate some ongoing on page efforts for a fee.
NOTE: I never take a SEO job with out a OnPage SEO Report cost.

I hope this helps,

Airborne!
Kevin

on page, backlink building, set up analytics, then some more fancy words for basic seo tasks

Many companies offer best seo services. You can check their previous work feedback and projects at which they worked.

I feel a WSO plug coming....

Hey Gents,
Good Debate I liked everyone except the obvious spammers comments and I think CDL has some valid statements. I can see where both sides viewed things from and both actually made some very helpful input so I know I appreciated it because its often a big struggle with me also knowing what to charge and knowing I usually make myself into a slave by not being a true consultant vs Order Taker and pitting myself against the 20.00 HR guys is not where want to be so thanks CDL and bydomino for sharing your business concepts.

I can understand the points your making and I agree as far as the industry goes but why would you get on the guys case because he wants to know how to do a better job. Just provide some constructive assistance and keep your industry comments for another forum or thread. It's obvious that you have more experience so share it forward.

This IS a valid point. Using affiliate sites, like the ones in my sig that are half assed, and I agree that they aren't the best sites out there, to learn how to drive traffic is perfect for a noob to learn the ropes of driving organic traffic. The competition for affiliate marketing is more competitive in lieu of the competition for local businesses or services when it comes to seo and driving traffic so cutting your teeth on affiliate sites is probably one of the best hands on training methods a person can implement prior to landing seo clients.

The method you described is how I started to learn seo and continue to learn seo. I don't have 100 sites but I do have about 25 sites that I use to test seo, analytics, landing pages, etc. Some of my sites are only targeting keywords that might have 500 exact searches per month while other sites are targeting keywords that have 80,000 exact searches per month. Some are ranking great while others are slowly making their way up the rankings.

Sharpening your skills prior to taking on seo clients is important and affiliate marketing is one way to do this.