Local App Broker vs. Biznessapps

14 years ago

I have emailed localappbroker with questions. Once I get the answers, I should have a better understanding how this stacks up with biznessapps. I will respond back on this thread with what I find out.

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bobdeveaux 14 years ago

Local App Broker is a reseller of BiznessApps from what I can tell.

LAB charge $39.95 per month, compared with BuzinessApps $30.

Downside with BuzinessApps is you have to commit to a minimum of 10 apps per month, so you're starting at $300p/m.

LAB also charge for access to their system, plus their GoMobile lead gen tool totalling $97p/m

LAB has so great content and sales tips but I think if you want to achieve your goal, then BuzinessApps will be fine..

HTH

p.s. registered just to reply :p
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zoro

14 years ago

Suggest you search the WSO section, you'll find much better App builders than either of those, and without having to pay monthly for each app.

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SJJPFTW 14 years ago

Originally Posted by zoro

Suggest you search the WSO section, you'll find much better App builders than either of those, and without having to pay monthly for each app.

True this!
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the11project 13 years ago

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rolltide

14 years ago

Thanks Bob for the info!

Zoro-can you pm me with any suggestions?

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zoro

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rolltide

Thanks Bob for the info!

Zoro-can you pm me with any suggestions?

Just PM'd you

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Riz

14 years ago

Our company is also moving into providing Apps to our current and new client base.

We have looked into both of these companies.

Zoro - could you also PM me the suggestions you made to rolltide?

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Just PM'd you

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bobdeveaux 14 years ago

Could you also send them to me too please? Or just post on this thread? hehe

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Zoro - could you also PM me the suggestions you made to rolltide?

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- zoro 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bobdeveaux
  
  Could you also send them to me too please? Or just post on this thread? hehe
  
  Cheers
  
  Sure PM sent.
  
  Before anyone else asks, it's easy to find WSO's if you just type your keyword into the WSO Search Tab. In this case you would type in "Mobile Apps" and up comes all the threads relating to mobile apps.
  I do not like to promote WSO's by posting links in general threads. I am not an afilliate.
  
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zoro

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Riz

Our company is also moving into providing Apps to our current and new client base.

We have looked into both of these companies.

Zoro - could you also PM me the suggestions you made to rolltide?

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No Probs, PM'd you.

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iMarketing Spirit 14 years ago

Originally Posted by zoro

Just PM'd you

Can you also PM me with these other app builders...thanks
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bjallen

14 years ago

Chris,

They are having a $1 trial offer for LAB, but it ends today. Here: http://hypertracker.com/go.russbrun.localappbroker

BJ

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PioneerPhil

14 years ago

I develop iPhone apps, pm me and I will tell you a program I use thats only $99 per app. It's brilliant and saves a lot of time and money!

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iharry 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PioneerPhil

I develop iPhone apps, pm me and I will tell you a program I use thats only $99 per app. It's brilliant and saves a lot of time and money!

I'll PM you now...

Thanks a lot!
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jrod014

14 years ago

I use biznessapps and I love it. I get clients from both the web and offline. Online iPhone, Android & iPad Mobile App Builder, Make Apps Today! is my reseller site I set up.

HOWEVER, you do have to agree to a minimum of 10 apps per month at $30 ea.Just an FYI.

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zoro

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jrod014

I use biznessapps and I love it. I get clients from both the web and offline. Online iPhone, Android & iPad Mobile App Builder, Make Apps Today! is my reseller site I set up.

HOWEVER, you do have to agree to a minimum of 10 apps per month at $30 ea.Just an FYI.

Why would anyone agree to pay for min of 10 apps every month, plus monthly fees, plus price per app fee?
You can find much better and cheaper by looking in WSO section and type into search bar keyword "Mobile Apps"

My opinion

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rolltide

14 years ago

Jrod- I just went through your site. It looks real good. I am leaning toward going with biznessapps as well. I like your approach with the monthly residual instead of large setup fee. How are you billing? Are you automatically hitting their cards on the 1st of the month? If not, I could see where billing could be a headache.

Bizness apps rep(Greg) and support have been really helpful answering my questions. Also, they have sent over examples in numerous niches . Not , just the niches on their site. With the volume you are doing, do they cut you any kind of deal from the $30/mth(10 min) rate. At the numbers you have listed, you are netting $15-55/mth per customer . I am sure that adds up nicely with volume. Are you also upselling sms? I could see how this would be real beneficial. Surely, with the bar/restaurant clients.

Thanks again for the info!

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rolltide

14 years ago

Jrod-One more question. How long does it take you to build most apps?

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jrod014

14 years ago

Rolltide - Their support is pure awesomeness! lol

I'm billing via paypal for now. it's works out for me.

The volume doesn't matter and the price is set to a minimum of 10 apps and $30 for each app after that.

I'm netting $39 a month for each bundle sign up (it's the most popular).

Also, to my surprise, a lot of consultants and developers ask to build with Appbotic. So I offer them the bundle at $45 a month per app. It works best for those developers who only are making under 10 apps.

As for the app build. It only takes 30-45 min but I'm also including custom graphics and using photoshop.

Let me know if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help.

Jerry

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Marketinc Solutions

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jrod014

Rolltide - Their support is pure awesomeness! lol

I'm billing via paypal for now. it's works out for me.

The volume doesn't matter and the price is set to a minimum of 10 apps and $30 for each app after that.

I'm netting $39 a month for each bundle sign up (it's the most popular).

Also, to my surprise, a lot of consultants and developers ask to build with Appbotic. So I offer them the bundle at $45 a month per app. It works best for those developers who only are making under 10 apps.

As for the app build. It only takes 30-45 min but I'm also including custom graphics and using photoshop.

Let me know if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help.

Jerry

J

Is appbotic your website?

Is it fully self serve? can the business owner get to the end, pay, and launch app to app networks?

Or

Is appbotic allowing the "client" to visually build the website using your template designs....... Then you create what they want for them?

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jrod014

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Marketinc Solutions

J

Is appbotic your website?

Is it fully self serve? can the business owner get to the end, pay, and launch app to app networks?

Or

Is appbotic allowing the "client" to visually build the website using your template designs....... Then you create what they want for them?

Full disclosure, I'm a reseller for business apps.

AppBotic is a website I built for the app platform. The backend is a white label version of the business apps app builder.

The customer/developer can create the app, upload custom buttons, background images, headers etc. Once they are done creating the app they use the submit form which is a form I've added. Once filled out, i get a notification, the developer login details and upload the app to both marketplaces. it also creates a HTML5 version of the app for mobile websites and includes the redirect script.

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Marketinc Solutions

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jrod014

Full disclosure, I'm a reseller for business apps.

AppBotic is a website I built for the app platform. The backend is a white label version of the business apps app builder.

The customer/developer can create the app, upload custom buttons, background images, headers etc. Once they are done creating the app they use the submit form which is a form I've added. Once filled out, i get a notification, the developer login details and upload the app to both marketplaces. it also creates a HTML5 version of the app for mobile websites and includes the redirect script.

Thanks for the quick answer.

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- 9999 13 years ago
  
  Will have to look into this more for local clients.
  
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  Scott Prock 12 years ago
  
  I would just like to breath a little life into this thread because it's a subject I get asked about all the time over at our FB page (see signature)
  
  I have a non-biased review of the LAB (Local App Brokers) system and the biggest expense I don't see anyone talking about is the fact that you have to pay $97 for each app code. So if you want to create four demos for your next sales run, you're going to have to pay $97x4. Through the LAB system (unless they have changed it) you only get another "free" code once your app has been approved, otherwise you have to pay for new app codes. Something BizApps gives you unlimited access to. You can create as many demos as you want with no extra charge.
  
  Here's that review again, (there's no affiliate sales or promotional links in this review)
  Local App Broker Review: Russel Brunson - Damien Zamora - GoMobile Solutions | BlogSprockit.com
  
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mermaidmedia

14 years ago

Could you please elaborate on what you offer developers for $45 per month per app, and is there any further charges involved?

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Originally Posted by jrod014

Rolltide - Their support is pure awesomeness! lol

I'm billing via paypal for now. it's works out for me.

The volume doesn't matter and the price is set to a minimum of 10 apps and $30 for each app after that.

I'm netting $39 a month for each bundle sign up (it's the most popular).

Also, to my surprise, a lot of consultants and developers ask to build with Appbotic. So I offer them the bundle at $45 a month per app. It works best for those developers who only are making under 10 apps.

As for the app build. It only takes 30-45 min but I'm also including custom graphics and using photoshop.

Let me know if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help.

Jerry

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rolltide

14 years ago

Thanks for your advice Jerry! I have 1 mobile app appointment set up for Wednesday. Have another client interested as well. Learning all I can before then.

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jrod014 14 years ago

Originally Posted by rolltide

Thanks for your advice Jerry! I have 1 mobile app appointment set up for Wednesday. Have another client interested as well. Learning all I can before then.

Awesome! Good luck.
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jking1

14 years ago

why you guys need to pm each other? is it very secret? cant we all get that?

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TakenAction

14 years ago

We have alos looked at both these companies for our company.

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jrod014

14 years ago

I like the features bizness apps offers. Features like m-commerce, in app shopping cart, paid appointment tab, food ordering etc. Too many cool features to list here.

@ mermaidmedia - I charge $45 for the bundle app package. For $45 a month you get access to the app builder. I'll even upload it to your developer accounts for you.

No other fees.

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JawadAshraf

14 years ago

here is an article that explains what local app broker is all about, hope it will help.

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D.A.

14 years ago

Biznessapps support was great. They eliminated live chat, which ticks me off. But their email support is still pretty good.

But I REALLY hate that they eliminated live chat, since we are resellers. When I have questions to be answered for a client that contacted me...they don't like waiting 24 hours for a response that might not have answered the original question correctly.

I can wait 24 hours for a response...because I am in the IM world. They offline world does not like that.

Enough rant. Its a good system, and they now allow you to make free mobile sites, and free android apps if your a reseller. They only charge you for Apple apps.

@ Cando4you, SJJPFTW, and ZORO...not sure why you guys won't post "better" app builder links in this thread, as it's not a sales thread, but an open conversation and help other warrior type thread.

But if any of you can list better app builders here or PM me them (I am oh so slowly getting to my 50th post after 4 years lol) I would love to compare them.

Yes. I am aware I can search, and find TONS of magic solutions. But I'm not here to read sales pitches all day. But I am always happy to improve my services and product if something comes along.

I look forward to seeing what solutions you have found.

Thanks,

Art

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Scott Prock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by D.A.

... But if any of you can list better app builders here or PM me them (I am oh so slowly getting to my 50th post after 4 years lol) I would love to compare them.

Yes. I am aware I can search, and find TONS of magic solutions. But I'm not here to read sales pitches all day. But I am always happy to improve my services and product if something comes along.

I look forward to seeing what solutions you have found.

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Art

I totally agree with Art ... and I too don't have enough posts yet to participate in the whole PM club ;-)

I do however have first hand knowledge of the BiznessApps vs Local App Broker (GoMobile Solutions) and in my opinion, LAB doesn't offer anything significant over BA - Hope it's ok to post a link to a full review (No affiliate links, no opt-ins, just honest review) - Local App Broker Review: Russel Brunson - Damien Zamora - GoMobile Solutions | BlogSprockit.com

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D.A.

14 years ago

I really am interested guys, if you have a solution.

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Scott Prock

14 years ago

@jrod014 ... I tried to go to the website under your username and get a 500 error, I was able to resolve it by placing www in front of the url. 301 redirect maybe?

Would love to have your expertise in our Facebook group (see sig) ... Scott

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azmek

13 years ago

@ Zoro,

48hours later i am still trolling through the search using Mobile apps as a search term !!!

could you please PM me with this app builder info

@Jrod014, thanks for the info, i am still thinking about reselling for biz apps but the 10apps start up is a bit high bar for me right now.

cheers

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inglis 13 years ago

Originally Posted by azmek

@Jrod014, thanks for the info, i am still thinking about reselling for biz apps but the 10apps start up is a bit high bar for me right now.

cheers

Hence why some developers are getting in the app's game through Jrod's Website
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jrod014

13 years ago

@azmek

Thats exactly why I offer it for $45 mo for developers/offliners.

Jerry

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jbrown2012

13 years ago

I signed up for LAB just over a week ago and I'm new to the whole marketing gig in general. I do want to just correct some of the comments. First off the Go mobile leads machine might cost $97/month if thats all you get but when you sign up for LAB it is completely free. The hosting is $39.99/month per app for both iphone and android and there is a fee of $97 for new app codes but that also includes the approval fee for apple and android. If there is an approval fee, but I can't see why apple or android would do it for free. There is absolutely no minimum amount of apps to get per month. Which is great because from what I just read bizzapps makes you take 10 apps a month at $30.00 per app for hosting. Thats crazy! What if you want to go on vacation and do nothing? Anyway the training has been quite in-depth they give lots of idea's to close the sale. Plus they offer Financing to the business at very respectable rates. If the client gets financing ,you as the broker don't have to wait for the monthly payments, the financing company pays you out right away. Just talking to a few business owners in my area I got 2 possible apps to build.

Now I'm no expert and I haven't tried any other programs so if any of you who have more experience than me have any suggestions for selling apps in a low population area I would love to hear them.

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Vinnyog

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jbrown2012

Now I'm no expert and I haven't tried any other programs so if any of you who have more experience than me have any suggestions for selling apps in a low population area I would love to hear them.

Hey Jbrown,

If you are using Local App Broker there are other options that are more affordable. I use to be with LAB but was tried of paying all the "extras" that they have to develop apps.

With that said, I went to Bizness Apps and found it way better for my needs. However I know that the $300/month up front cost can be a bit much. I built a website vogdeveloperapps.com which offers the exact same app software for 1/3 the cost that Local App Broker charges. Not sure if that would help you or not but though I would suggest it to you anyway. As for app approval, once you build your app I will submit it for you and insure that all areas are met to get that approval on Apple and Google app stores.

From my understanding working with LAB...they do not guarantee that...at least not when I was using their service.

As for the leads machine...why pay $97/month for that when you can use Google which is free or take a drive around your city. Driving around helped me find some amazing businesses that I have built apps for. $10 in gas and a return of $4000 in sales seems pretty good to me.

As for the $39.99 charge LAB charges...I also charge that but only when the app submitted to the app stores but I then pay $30 of that $39.99 to Biznessapps.com. So there is no huge mark up or profit being made. Vogdeveloperapps.com allows you to build as many demo apps as you want...unlike LAB who says they will charge you $97 per app to build.

When I requested more apps codes to access the app builder LAB made it seem that they were doing me a favor by providing more app codes for free. Charging more to develop demo apps made no sense to me and that is also another reason why I left LAB.

If you were looking for different options there you go. My app developer site vogdeveloperapps.com is actually a secondary to my main site Vogcalgaryappdeveloper.com so the developer site is just something set up for developers looking to get started. Hope that helps

All the best
Vince

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foxynz07

13 years ago

For what it's worth the crucial part in all of this from my experience is getting approved by Apple.
It can be tough to get your app into the app store. So we went with Bizness Apps to get the quality we needed.
With several apps now live and more to build i would recommend bizness apps over most others...
Add to that a high standard of graphic design and you are set so if you can't justify the $300 a month for a bizapps white label then go with someone like jrod014 who will make it easier for you!
FYI we don't know each other, i am just giving the benefit of my experience as someone who is doing this too...
Cheers
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evomark

13 years ago

I have been with bizness apps for 3 months now. And they have been good for me. Like a lot of others on here I was on a Go Mobile Webinar a few months back.

I was not to keen on mobile apps but after doing research I saw the potential (assuming you go after the right market). Then after doing more research I found out that Go Mobile was a expensive reseller for Bizness apps via this website and decided to give Bizness apps a try.

For the most part I like their platform it is easy to use and they do get back to you pretty fast. There are some features that I wish they would offer.

Just in case you are wonder what some of those are here are two:

One for example is they offer a HTML5 with in the package that offers a redirect script for a clients website, which works great, my issue is that this shows the redirect url in the browser so instead of company.com or m.company.com it shows my app website name. Making the user think they are on another site even though they see the same content as the app or original website.

Secondly the ability to add Admob or Airpush the the apps would be nice.

I have emailed Bizness apps about both issues and they have gotten back to me right away. So again I say their support is great.

Currently I have only created apps for a few companies just to build my portfolio up. But I can honestly say that when I show them the app on a phone 95% of the time they are in WOW mode.

On side note does anyone know of any bizness app support groups where we can share ideas and all that jazz.

@jrod014 how do you handle the HTML5 issue or do clients not care.

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DougC 13 years ago

Originally Posted by evomark

Secondly the ability to add Admob or Airpush the the apps would be nice.

I think that businesses should be using their app as a marketing tool to drive customers in and therefore adding AdMob could be a dangerous idea (to see ads from competitive apps/businesses).

Imagine if you sell an app to a restaurant and they have admob in the app. Then their customers start to see ads for other restaurants in the app, not ideal.

Although I may have misunderstood your comment, do you mean admob ads for apps that arent for brick and mortar businesses, more for content/media led apps? In which case that could be great, I agree.

Full disclaimer, I run an app platform called appsplash and we always encourage businesses to think of the app as a marketing tool for driving footfall and with our location based analytics we can see the impact!

Great to see so much interest in the apps space here, biznessapps seem to have done a good job empowering businesses with apps which is great for all parties involved.

We also offer a white label solution with many partners on board so I will post a special offer on here the proper way as soon as i can figure out how.

Doug
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iwillbeontop

13 years ago

Ive made $xxx,xxx from bizness apps.
God bless them!

I cringe when I read about people charging so little for apps they make with BA platform.

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soup7564 13 years ago

Originally Posted by iwillbeontop

Ive made ,xxx from bizness apps.
God bless them!

I cringe when I read about people charging so little for apps they make with BA platform.

I'm intrigued as to how much to charge!
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  Originally Posted by soup7564
  
  I'm intrigued as to how much to charge!
  
  Is $1500 about right?
  
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DaveyBoy28

12 years ago

All reseller Programs have there pros and cons. If your looking for super fast apps i'd recommend checking out Appsplash. Support is via email but you get a panel out of the box!

http://www.rippll.com/landingpages/freepanel.html

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