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Your website says Pimp websites, no bullshit.... that could work, except you said you're also going to be presenting at local rotary's.

I don't think you understand your target market. Are you going for college kids or business owners? Rethink that.

Ok looks like nameless beat me to this.

You say no BS on the webpage so I will not sugar coat this one bit.

1. $99 is dumb. Real businesses don't want $99 cheapo websites. Even if the $1500 website and the $99 one are the same they will ignore the $99 one. So get real pricing. And if you need to discount to get the first few clients. "You know Mr Client like I said we charge $1500 normally and you have made it clear you would love to hire me but that is not within your budget. How about I offer you a deal? We can do your website for $500 if you would agree for us to use it as a show piece for our portfolio and place a small "designed by" message at the bottom of your web page."

2. unTapped Rep is a horrid name. Lose that if you plan to target real offline businesses.

3. Awesome you created a bunch of social network sites. I bet that branding really helped because every business owner I know looks for marketing and web services on Facebook. :| Yeah I totally face-plained that. Get real your targeted market isn't looking for you there.

4. Super targeted list? Targeted based on what? This might be the best thing going for you or just another misstep. I'm gonna give the benfit of the doubt and assume it is targeted well.

5. You say you are targeting local and want to take over the local market. So why isn't your company name something local? Oregon Web Magicians is kinda lame but at least 20 times better than unTapped Rep for local targeting.

6. Video reviews? Sounds pretty solid depending on what you are doing. Another thumbs up.

7. Networking and presentations to business owners and managers? Great idea if you are branded right. (in case you haven't figured it out I don't think you are branded right)

8. You mention wackjob and unreliable competition. Yet your website and company name screams wackjob and unreliable to me. If you want to compete against them make it all look professional.

9. Your basic website looks ok. You just need to change the content you have on it to look more professional.

10. nameless commented on the "Pimp website" and BS comments already.

11. Your girlfriend is cute, I think. But why is the top of her head cut off in the thumbnail on the main page?

11b. Her eyes are cut off when you get to the page that links to. Seriously did you even self test you website? It's looks very unprofessional when I click to learn more about her and I get to see her nose, mouth, and neck. I don't have a nose fetish. I am assuming your targeted clients don't either.

11c. She looks way too young and not professional. Hire a guy off craiglist to get some real pictures done. And get her into at least business casual. I understand it's the pacific northwest but Kurt has been dead for 18 years (damn I feel old) so lose the grunge look.

11d. Don't call yourself a startup. Unless you are looking for venture capital no one cares. You are a new company and one that is clearly bootstrapping. Just fake it till you make it. Never let your first client know he is your first.

11e. I just read the post about her. WTF did I just read? Seriously WTF. "I focus mostly more on the secretarial side of things, and I am also the newly appointed "Ideas Ambassador", which I enjoy because it's challenging to come up with creative ideas that target a specific kind of audience in this never-ending world-wide web where I strive to design solutions that beat out all the rest." This is basically my introduction to her and all I now know is that she likes run on sentences. I have horrid english skills. I know this which is why I would have a copy writer or editor go over anything I posted like this.

12. Mike now we get to you. And this should be fun. First why the hell is your picture on the main page your face badly (and let me stress BADLY) photoshopped onto a video game character (I can't place the chacter well enough but I reconnize it from my IGN days). Also the picture shows you/the character holding guns. Way to look professional. :|

12b. You have a different picture on the next page. But have your face is cut off. Sure your name isn't Harvey Dent? Seriously your professional page photo looks like a bad facebook profile photo.

12c. I have two daughters. Most of your potential clients will have had kids. My point? I don't like diapers (one is still in diapers) and neither do they. Seriously you thought saying "still in diapers" on your professional profile was a good idea?

12d. Let's test your geek knowledge. What would I use a 12 sided dice(aka 12d or d12) for? Why do I ask? Because your profile tells me you are more liekly to help me with an RPG vs. web marketing/design. (12d also could mean use 12 six sided dice in old West End Games RPGs. I loved the Star Wars RPG back in the day.)

12e. ROI = Return of INVESTMENT not Return of Interest (is there a face_headshake?)

12f: Does mentioning that your parents were hippies help in that market? IDK but around here it wouldn't. Business owners are more likely to be card carrying GOP members here. If it works in your market that is cool. Otherwise lose it. Myself I think you should lose it either way but you hopefully know the market better than I do.

12g. LMAO you just called your competitors wackjobs and clowns. Please tell me you built this website just to troll people like me. If your are trolling I will give you props. If this is for real I am tempted to take screenshots and submit it to M to F on failblog. Never ever ever ever Badmouth your competitors. You can show how you are better and different but never badmouth them. It just makes you look like a "clown". (BTW these days when I hear "clown" all I can think about is Cher Lloyd. I love that "Want U back" song.)

12h. LMAO I thought you posted that profile in May. You know why? Cause I live in the US as do you. Date format is M/D/Y. You need to change the blog settings to US. This isn't Europe. 05/09/2012 is May 9th in the US not Sept 5th.

13. "It all starts here..." So far this is the most professionally looking post on your website/blog. And it looks professional only at a minimal level.

14. You asked "What do you think? Anything I should do different? " and my short answer is EVERYTHING. Just like nameless said do you even know who your target market is? if it is small local businesses (which is what you say it is) this whole website and brand is a failure. If it is to subcontract out for other warriors you may be ok.

15. Honest thought here: For $99 I would consider hiring you. Hell I actually may hire you depending on how you take all this.

I beat you up pretty bad for a reason. You need to be beat up by me now vs. failing and not being able to pay your bills. All that being said I wish you luck but you need to go back to the drawing board before you go after local clients.

EDIT: While I was typing this post I see that multiple people including you defended the "pimp" and no BS part of your website that nameless brought up. It really makes me wonder at times if nameless is the only one doing this out in the real world.

you're being stubborn. those things clearly pointed out by two marketers, the ones who aren't starting threads asking for advice for their firm... are silly and immature. acknowledge the fact that those are the only things they and myself have picked up on as disadvantages for your site and, no offense but... grow up.

I agree that it could put off some people.. But those are not the type of people I really want to work with.

Here are some examples of others doing the same:


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BTW I just want to thank you for photoshopping your picture onto that video game character. It allowed me to return to my old IGN Vesti days.

"I lived in a 70′s Greyhound Bus that was converted into a hippie home.. My bed was a mattress on top of a water tank. We traveled all over the mountains of Oregon hunting mushrooms to sell to buyers who ship them all over the world."

I'm sure you got loads of sales from marketers. Like i said for $99 bucks I would hire you as I believe you have skills. And I think if we are your targeted clients this all works great. Thus why this post would work to give you clients. But you said you want to dominate the local market and that site/branding isn't going to work for the vast majority of offline businesses.

As for the $4800 project I am glad you closed it but did they see your website or did you cold call them?

I hope that you have success with your new venture!!!

Mike,

Ignore the people who just want to be negative to be negative. You have people like me and nameless who will rip you up to make you better. Others just like to rip people up.

I love the fact you are a kind of local celeb. That will really help you grow as long as you brand right. And I think you have to brand differently.

With your local celeb status why are you not using Mike Wilbourne Marketing or a similar name. You should be your brand in that case.

Yeah I tried to aim for real constructive critism but make it funny and entertaining. Glad you took it the right way.

BTW did you make it across america?

I heard someone was making pimp websites for $99. How much to add a buy now button and have separate email address for each one of my hoes?

Hey, I work with Mike at unTappedRep (he's also my boyfriend, too!) and I just wanted to say that he's great at what he does, and he's not the type to get disappointed easy, so all this negativeness is just motivating us more and more.

I'm not a marketing, SEO or SEM expert but the tagline is not professional. No offense to any of the younger members here, but it sounds like something a high school kid would say. As a business owner, that considers myself & my business "professional", I would never purchase services from a company that says "pimp websites, no bullshit". Of course, that's just my opinion.

untappedrep,

as would Simon say: you're original, you're different and you making money.
Congratulation! Follow your dreams and Not others.

Joe

I wish you the best of success, really. Just looking at this as a possible customer, I would ask 'what's in it for me?' Beautiful engaging design is fine but businesses want more customers, higher revenues, more profits. There's so many strategies and monitoring I didn't even read it all(no offense but a lot of stuff there).

Plus I see a photo with an iPad and smartphone - very important but barely mentioned.

Link building - in one area you list it with web design.

Greyhound Buss? (It's bus, not a biggie.)

$99? Hopefully you can appreciate such a low price dilutes the value for every one who is also working their a**es off, (sigh) ...but I salute you and your girlfriend not feeling sorry for yourselves & taking massive action. Gotta give you kudos for that.

Cheers-

Hi
Nice strategey!!! ur website and solutions look nice and superb.i also need a proposal from you regarding the same

Mike, no matter how you present your business personality, I would add a lot more that shows potential customers how you can help them. You have 8 months of results with the previous company. Talk about some success stories.

If you can't use company names, talk about the type of company. Construct a case study as
- Problem (the challenge the company had)
- Action Taken (what you did to help them)
- Result (specific gains in sales or conversions/ better efficiency/ reductions in waste/ etc.)

They shouldn't be as short as a testimonial but not as long as a whitepaper. Think in terms of around 500 - 2000 words.

You could even use your walk across the country as a case study. Mine your past jobs for possible success stories.

The idea is that you are showing you are a Problem Solver.

Right now there is a lot about your company's goals, the staff and the services. It's good to have that stuff, but there is not enough about customer problems and how you can solve them.

As you get your own success stories I would add them right away. Remember to ask clients for specific gains or sales numbers. Good luck.

P.S. Here are a few examples:
http://www.snaptech.com/case-study.asp
http://www.hubspot.com/customer-case-studies/

I agree with some of the posters about the big "NO BULLSHIT" sign and the Pimp Websites addition. Maybe substitute "NO B.S.?" if you have to have that. Otherwise, your logo would look great there.

I agree with another poster - (Aaron) that you might consider using your name or part of it too. You can always take this site and point it to another one if you decide to change it.

I like the professional look of your site. It's full of bells and whistles and looks modern.
One suggestion is to take out the extra white space at the bottom of Recent Posts. And you may want to break some of your paragraphs up a tad to make for easier reading.

I wish you the very best of success with your new venture! And I hope I have helped in a small way.

Tips I Have for being a SEO consultant/ Web Designer
1. Be real,this is something that can be easily done when first starting off.Do walk ins,make a personal video and email go the extra mile to show that you are real and reliable person.Businesses get contact each day about SEO and Web Design but its in your favour if you are targeting locally. Business owners will be trusting you with a lot so they want to know you first.

2. Your Website isin't everything. My website consists of a blog, about me, contact, and a special I might be holding. With my blog I have written articles but hadnt have the time to publish them so my website is still very incomplete. This could be different for you since I focus on SEO and Upsell to web design if they needed.

3. Don't try to sell them something.Identify the problem,give them how to fix it,then show them you can fix it. E.g Business "X" you are missing out on customers finding your business online, a great way to be found online is having a website for your business, I can help you as I am a web designer/seo consultant. Very basic

4.Try to get referrals. A way to get referrals I use is partnering up with a business printing company give them a free website/redesign and get them to refer any customers that come to them and there is a lot of customers that come to them looking for that stuff.

P.s change your picture you look like a serial killer

Hey Mike!
Congrats on your success I wish you luck in all your endeavors.
It was quite entertaining reading this thread, but just as important for me. I too am about to embark onto the Offline IM world in my local area.

Cheers to everyone's success,

Michael.

I would write my plan and review it every 3 months.
If you listen to zig ziglar : only the business with BP are succeeding in the long run

I agree with people saying to get rid of the "pimp" part, and I also agree with people saying to provide a nice clear profile pic for both you and the girl. Your one looks angry, and her one is just a giant nose.

Apart from that though, as long as your website isn't the only avenue of contact for potential customers, I think you can do just fine with the "No BS" thing. Just get out there and start finding leads and potential clients.

All the best!

"I invited my girlfriend to join me on the journey ahead"

Never tell anyone outside of the family about the family's business.

I agree, too much personal stuff on the site IMHO. No one cares. They just want results for themselves, and could care less about your lives or goals.

I think the personal touch is good. Though it needs to be polished.

Hey Mike, what wordpress plugin did you use for the slideshow on the main page?

I can't take the time to really get into this but...

I'm glad to see you are doing what you are doing. Your personality will resonate with some people. Some people it will not. This is always the case no matter how much you try to please everyone. So man...follow your heart.

Be true to yourself.

Work your ass off.

If something isn't working, sit back and figure out why. If it turns out your pimpin' bullshit isn't working, then change it. If it works, keep it.

The truth is, only you know for sure what you need to do right now. If you fail, so what? Try again and again and again. Learn from every mistake. Learn from these guys here. Take what you can from them and if some advice just doesn't fit for you right now at this stage in your life, don't try to make it fit. You are ahead of the game and I wish you real success.

Your life is a work in progress and as long as you keep making progress you are doing good.

Use your own ideas. Do some market Re-search. But always stay true
to what you believe. Everyone will have there own opinion "but stay true
to you".

WILL

I am being very honest about this. I did not make this thread to make more sales.

I have to say... Since posting this my site traffic went up, I got 4 really custom orders all billed over $450, 6 simple $99 orders, and built partnership with some big players on the WarriorForum. Goes to show the real value of this forum.

When I blow these clients away and build my portfolio I will move into branding for my local market. I will use this solid portfolio and positive case studies/reviews to close local deals.

I also have to say that the advice offered by this community has been amazing and I hope others will learn from my mistakes and achievements.

Hey PM me what I would get for $99 bucks as I could use a basic website for a side business.

Also will you be doing wholesale work once your fully launch or just retail?

Repost Sorry it was giving me a head ache

Hmmm... Okay, well first of all, in regards to his tag line, yes, it may be blunt, and overall surprising, but as first looks go, I would take it with a grain of salt, and chuck it up to being purely portrayed for shock value purposes. You cant mistake someone when they make bold statements, and NO ONE can judge, or truly know whether this would hurt or harm the number of partners, or clients that he accrues over the course of his business. Some individuals or businesses like the "no bullshit" approach, and aren't easily offended because they see the reasoning in advertising such a statement, and in all fairness, it works!

Some chose not to indulge because they fear the risk of their integrity being effected, or just plain don't agree with the use of profanity in business, or tainting their reputation with any negative association, or their company upholds a strictly PG presence. BUT that, is a personal preference.

Donald Trump who earns billions (millions, billions, whatever, he's very wealthy!) makes bone headed statements/personal judgements, yet maintains a strong connection with his business ventures, etc (and he's definitely not the only one), so in retrospect, some of the comments have to LITERALLY be taken with a grain of salt.

There's just no way that anyone can determine his rise or fall at such an early stage. He could reach dozens of clients who may not like the statement he portrays, due to their own personal opinion, yet absolutely LOVE the work that he does, on a professional level, it happens! The statement is just another form of advertising, but it is not the ONLY form that is displayed for drawing in business. Bottom line above everything else: The work speaks for itself. If you look at his works and decide that his particular approach of design is exactly what you are looking for, then go for it. If not, (shrugs) C'est la vie. But either way, he's going to make a profit one way or another.

For every potential client that doesn't agree, there are most likely clients that do. Personally, I don't attest to whether I approve of the statement or not, because the statement is Not the point, just my opinion. What the company can do, the quality of work, support, attention to the needs of the acquired clients, timeframe of completion, deliverance, etc. All of that is what really matters, and from what I have seen and experienced first hand, the team seems pretty solid to me.

Take one Christian Based, "Family Friendly" Company who promises a good clean rep, but delivers nothing short of "crappy", unsatisfactory work, but swears off curse words in their statements vs. A not so traditional company like this one, but has good quality work, with jumping off discounted websites offered for purposes of building a rapport, and displaying examples of their various works to give people something to review for themselves...which one do you really think people are going to chose?

And most importantly is it a smart practice to judge and pass up a company because they said... "bullshit" , and yet fall for a company that doesn't "verbally offend" but doesn't know a plugin from their ass, and couldn't build a website, or a landing page, or provide proper SEO work, social media marketing, etc,if their commissions, depended upon it?

There is a difference between leaving constructive criticism, and "unnecessary, offensive opinions". Give an opinion, but showing your true colors just gives the WF a bad name. Besides, if it so happens that he Does make a name for himself, and rocks his tagline for all that it is worth, and his clients, team members, and Numbers are constantly growing (which seems to be the directions he's going in since he's gotten quite a few visible hits in his threads, already) then most of the negative opinions were wrong, anyway.

Eh, I just like to take a fair approach and take All things under consideration, but my comments are also opinion based also, so eh! Just putting my two cents in.

Such strong language, can turn off potential customers... The site itself looks awesome IMO.

I looked over your website--I have to agree I don't like the pics that much--what's wrong with a nice head shot of your staff wearing business casual? I also agree the any profanity and ghetto language should not be on the website--I'm not saying it won't work but I don't see why you need that to show your "personality" through inappropriate pictures, foul language or frequently using the word "freakin" constantly. Why risk driving away clients just to make some point about your personality? I don't get it myself but it is your business.

I would also be very careful with your $99 pricing (or any low pricing) because once you've established a price point it can become difficult to raise it. If you feel you need to do this for now to establish business, make sure you say so on your website. Use it to create a sense of urgency; say something like "Act now, this offer is only to our first # of clients, after that we will be charging our normal price of # per website" (you fill in the numbers) and make sure you remove the offer as soon as you hit the target number. Also let the early clients know you will be expecting testimonials if they like your work and to use their sites to promote more business for yourself so that understand and agree to this.

I looked at some of the websites you posted as what you were trying to emulate--go take a look at them again. I think you are a little too personal on your website as compared to your examples. There is nothing wrong with a bit of personal information and a little local color (I like both of those as it shows you're a serious business and not some fly by night scammer and I like a physical address as well for the same reason) but I don't think you need to be quite so upfront about your newness. I also would drop the hippie bus stuff and your "lower class" background, I just don't think its necessary, are you looking for business or close personal friends? If its the latter then that stuff is fine, if its the former its just TMI (too much information). None of the other websites talks about their class or what kind of house they grew up in so I don't think you should either.

Save all the detailed personal stuff for your own personal Facebook page--as someone else said your business has and should have a separate identity from you personally. The business is and will be your baby but like a biological baby, it is a separate entity from its parents with its own personality which will reflect some of yours as a real baby you can see traits of the parents but your business, like a real baby is not a duplicate of the parents. Don't expect your business to be a mirror reflection of you--its not. Also remember that a true professional doesn't have to like everyone to work with them. Its a business not a friendship society and I can work with anyone who is civil to me--I may not like them but I certainly can do my job with them.

I also agree with those who want you to tone down all the defiant declarations of the brand newness of your business. I think I understand what you're trying to do here--turn a negative into a positive with this "crazy Eddie's" approach to the problem, e.g. "I maybe new but I'm willing to starve myself to death to make this work" which I saw you say something similar in your about me post. However, I don't like it as it comes off as it is way over the top and more than a bit desperate. Everyone says they will "do what it takes" to make the customer happy so saying it louder and more often isn't going to make it anymore true. Sometimes less is more.

I liked most of the service content but you had your web hosting page under construction. I absolute hate "under construction" signs on a website, I don't know what genius came with this idea but I think they should be shot AND sent to the Eastern front. Here's the solution: if a web page isn't ready, DON"T PUBLISH IT. When you put something up on your site you're saying "come look at this" and then when I get there you say "sorry, not ready yet", if its not ready then why the heck did you put it up???

Also, why isn't that page ready? Of all the services you're offering web hosting is the easiest one to do since you can get help on doing this from any of the web hosting companies that offer web hosting plans. You really should get this page up ASAP as there is no reason it should be under construction and every day its not up--you could be losing web hosting customers.

Well that's my two cents...good luck with your new business and I wish you success.

I read this post, I rarely reply, but I have some points to make out here that I believe need to be addressed.

First - your logo is bad, I would spend more time working on your brand and by all means get rid of that logo it's really bad.

Also - if you sell website design - make sure you don't have broken links on your site, I clicked your Facebook link and guess what BROKEN. You should have samples of sites, possibly testimonials.

marketing wise you are missing your mark. The message is not clear, you don't define your business effectively, you just have a bold tagline that breaks up content that simply talks over your head. Come down to earth and think that no one understands your business then using the simplest words ever explain your business and why you are good in one great sentence. keep in mind you have less then 5 minutes to get someones attention.

side note, I know you are young cause I read some of your posts, but you have to ask yourself as a business man. This is my business, this is my reputation if I reply like this WHO IS GOING TO READ IT, there is no need to get angry or mad or even reply to anything that will irritate you. Take a breath and take the critism politely. That will let people know you are the man and you can take on anything. No need to brag about small sales numbers either. You didn't even close the site you are bragging about. If I bragged about all my proposals out there that would be silly.

Good luck and manage it well, it's going to be tough.

I suggest raising your prices, you will get better clients. I would also work VERY hard on your own branding. Facebook, Twitter, Google+ and of course LinkedIn pages. Business owners looking to hire you will check your Social Media sites before considering hiring you.
Also...if you have some mad SEO and Content Marketing skills, position your companies website on Page One of Google, where people are searching for your type services.
Good luck !!!

dont do the girlfriend thing...... when she leaves the company and you - you have a new competitor - just like you did when you left your boss. A conflict of interest kind of thing. Keep things profesional 110% and you wont get gray hair!

Sometime replies are more useful than the post......... hhhah lol

I don't have an opinion either way. I can say that you've polarize some people around here.

You know something I learned a long ass time ago no bullshit. You can't appeal to every one, people gonna love you, or people ain't.

If you like NO Bullshit and pimp then I think that's awesome because its working for you. You create a polarizing effect and convert the people right away who identify with your no BS pimp approach. LOL That's epic in if you ask me.

You asked for opinions not advice so don't feel obligated to change anything based on any one's opinion. = )

Another Update:


The first thing I noticed with this thread is the fact that there are some really awesome people on this community. I have been working my A%% off for the past month. At this point we have closed 8 $99 that turned into real websites. We have also sold hosting plans, marketing solutions, and email marketing solutions that were all priced at the industry standard. Another cool thing about selling some $99 deals is the amazing connections I have made with other marketers, designers, and business owners. I even landed some partnerships with some awesome entrepreneurs here on the forum.

The first run of $99 websites is almost done. Most of the $99 sites went from quick and simple websites to full on marketing packages. I am really excited about publishing the portfolio with great designs, case studies, and video testimonials. Most of the sites are 90% done and a few are still in the first stages of design. The team fell behind a little on some of the projects. This was due to the mass of orders we got. This $99 deal is not just a way to build a quick portfolio. We also built a solid team that works well together. Think about all the restaurants that give away free meals on opening day. This allows them to really test new employees, business operations, management, and many other important aspects of the business. Our team is trained and ready to dominate after these test runs.


Our Next Steps

Do 5-10 more websites at $99

At the start of this deal we wanted to work with 10-15 $99 websites so we could build a solid portfolio of websites in many different industries. We only ended up with 9 sites and 6 out of 9 are almost done. If you are interested please click on the link on my signature.

Hire Full Time Lead Expert

We are looking for a creative and talented lead generation expert who would like to work on a commission based agreement as a contractor. Our target market is small businesses in need of a simple $500 as well as more advanced solutions priced up to $1600. We also pay a substantial 25% commission marketing and design deals. You must be very comfortable with cold calling to qualify for this position.

My Next update will show the tools, services, business operations, and many other key aspects that helped us get started. This is all I have time to write now.

Hello Mike/Bonnie,

Kindly respond to my emails and voice mail messages. It's been over 2 weeks without any update or delivery? You guys have gone Dark on me. What's up??? The last email from you lead me to believe things were almost complete? what happened?

The last update i received from you was on Nov 18th:


"Hello Kamran,

Thank you for the codes, I will forward them to Mike so he can implement them. I wanted to give you a quick update on how things are going.

We are currently working on the final changes, which you should be able to view. We are going to move the website over tonight. Please let me know if you have any questions, concerns, or addition of information."

Looks like all those "haters" may have been right about your staying power; just went to your site out of curiosity, only to find nothing. I just feel bad for all the people who gave you money expecting to get something in return.

Wait so how does everyone know how this ended? How do people know this was a scam? I am curious...

Not sure what happened but they are young. Plenty of time to rebound. They'll probably learn as much from failure as success.

Business model was not sustainable. And I doubt they made much money from this. This IMO was just an example of people with no experience with money feeling like $100 is a large amount of cash.

I got a basic site from this for $100. I didn't expect much and got what I expected. Did I get scammed? No Should I have given them $100? No it wasn't worth it.

But for me it was worth the risk. Had they delivered quality I could have had a web guy to go to. Something I really wanted. $100 was an amount I was willing to spend on a test.

Everything about this thread was hilarious.

Thanks to whoever bumped this.

untapped rep= unpaid hosting=unfinished websites.

I was rooting for them but if they were a stock I would have shorted the hell out of it after looking at that marketing plan.

Pimp websites..lol

Yeah I was suspicious when they were saying '$99 barely covered costs'.

I was trying to figure out how they were even getting full wordpress themes customized and developed for UNDER $100? How does that figure cover revisions/custom graphics/photo optimizing/tweaking layouts etc...even on premade themes?

Oh well, this was definitely an entertaining thread...

So, ? How's Bus? Question.... How was/ is your relationship with the clients you left behind with the other company? Go after them if you were in good standings.

Good luck,

Jan